If they don't accept Bobbie, then they don't accept us. They surely don't know who tha heck they are dealing with. I think they will see they error of their ways and do the right thing. If not, the Coryell Co. gang has seen a lot tougher than this. John Christoff Wichita Falls, TX

Bobby have you email Joan about it yet , I have 6 boards and have no problem so far , if you need help after you get in let me know I just figured out how to create a welcome page Belle ----- Original Message ----- From: <JFCUS2@aol.com> To: <TXCORYEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: Re: Boards > If they don't accept Bobbie, then they don't accept us. They surely don't > know who tha heck they are dealing with. I think they will see they error of > their ways and do the right thing. If not, the Coryell Co. gang has seen a > lot tougher than this. > John Christoff > Wichita Falls, TX > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Dear List Members, We now have a new look to our county site with the GenConnect buttons gone. Have finally been allowed to place the information on line, but not yet accepted as administrator for our county pages. Hope this all works out and that we like it even better than the old way. Bobbie Ross, co-ordinator for Coryell County Texas http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcoryel/ Coryell County Genealogical Society http://users.htcomp.net/ccgs/index2.htm

Dear List Members, I expected to hear from each of you by now, complaining about our GenConnect boards. A year ago Ancestry bought out Roots web, with the assurance that things would only be better or the same. Recently they announced that they were doing away with GenConnect for a "new" "improved" single board. I'm still in a state of shock, perhaps it will get better, but for right now I am at a loss. I can't even get into my Board to administer or edit it. The following is a newspaper column in the Houston paper by Lynna Kay Shuffield and she covers it very well. "New Development with GenConnect Boards" On June 14th, GenConnect, RootsWeb and Ancestry.com announced they would be pulling down all of the query and data boards for every county, state, country and surname. We were promised a "new and improved system" to post our queries and data! Instead, on June 21st we were served, in my opinion, a homogenous bowl of slop! In reality, all of the query and data boards (i.e., Obituaries, Pensions, Wills, Biographies, Bibles, & Deeds) from GenConnect, RootsWeb, Ancestry.com and FamilyHistory.com were rolled into one massive board without any context to its original structure or format. In the "new message board" system, you cannot tell a query for an obituary from a Bible record from a deed. The previous system allowed for the orderly organization of data into groupings. You knew if you went onto the Obituary Board for Milam County you would find obituaries and not Wills. Now when you go to the Milam County Message Board, you don't know what you have in the way of data or queries! And this is the same for every county, state, country and surname message board! The biggest complaint about the new system is many folks feel they were mislead because there was nothing in the announcement that informed anyone that the structure of their data boards was going to be destroyed! No one had the opportunity to copy their information off for safekeeping before they were pulled-down. For example, on the Milam County Obituary Board, we had over 1,500 obituaries posted. Now, they are all co-mingled with other data entries and queries on one board containing almost 4,000 entries! What a mess! The search engine and instructions are not very clear. For example if you are searching for San Saba County, it will never appear because the search engine only recognizes SanSaba, without a space between the words. The same goes for any two-named counties, i.e., SanJacinto, TomGreen, etc. And of course, there is nothing telling you about this little quirk! Additionally, the new system no longer allows the Message Board Administrators to manage or edit queries. In the past, administrators could edit postings to insure they were appropriate and met the requirements. Now anyone can post anything without any controls or supervision. The only option now available to board administrators is to totally delete a posting! Administrators are not being given any instructions or "how to" for the new system and the URL addresses for the message board change without any notice! Ancestry.com took a perfectly good system and solely, in my opinion, made it into a vehicle to increase the number of hits on their website, to increase their advertising rates and increase the exposure of the products it sells to those who visit the new message boards. Another failure of the new system is that it no longer sends you a direct e-mail to alert you to new postings on the boards you are interested in researching. Now, you have to go directly to the board to determine what new postings have been made as the notification system only notifies you when you log-in the system. Gee, another opportunity to increase the number of hits on the website by forcing you to have to visit them to see what's new! Therefore, in my opinion, the new system does not have its roots in establishing a better research system for genealogists but instead is just another commercial vehicle to make money off folks who are interested in family history research. We can only hope another group will step forward and fill the vacuum that Ancestry.com has made with its "new and improved system." "Genealogy.com Now Charging for Support" Genealogy.com has announced that it will now begin charging $2 PER MINUTE for technical support for the genealogy software, Family Tree Maker they own as well as other genealogy software that it markets. This means you will pay Genealogy.com $120 PER HOUR for help and technical support. They require payment in advance by credit card only. Family Origins users can still obtain FREE software support by contacting the software owner directly at < http://www.formalsoft.com >. Family Origins also has an e-mail list where other users can help with information, comments and suggestions. Additionally, Family Origins now has started its own Message Board Forum at < http://formalsoft.com/forums/ > for users who have questions and need help! "Social Security FOIA Fees to Increase" Effective July 1, 2001, the Social Security Adm. will increase its fees for requesting a copy of a Social Security Application for anyone found on the Social Security Death Index (SSDI). The new fees: $27 if the Social Security Number is provided; $29 if the Social Security Number is NOT provided; $16 search for death information Social Security Number provided; and, $18 search for death information Social Security Number NOT provided. For additional information regarding new fees for Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for the Social Security Adm., visit < http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm#_Toc517745425 >. To read a past article in this column related to the importance of using the SSDI in genealogy research, visit: < http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/COLUMN-003.htm >. In this column, I will be glad to highlight and review any family history, genealogy, county history, or similar book, free of charge, if you donate a copy of the book or item. After it has been highlighted and reviewed, on a space available basis, it will be donated to the genealogy section of a library. You will receive an acknowledgment of the donation from the library. Mail item or book to me at the below address. Regretfully, I cannot help with individual genealogical research. However, you can submit queries that will be published on a space available basis. If you have any questions, comments, suggestions for column topics, genealogy or historical society announcements, please contact me at: P. O. Box 16604, Houston, Texas 77222-6604 or e-mail: < friday@argohouston.com >. Bobbie Ross, co-ordinator for Coryell County Texas http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcoryel/ Coryell County Genealogical Society http://users.htcomp.net/ccgs/index2.htm Ross home page http://users.htcomp.net/ross Daughters of the American Revolution http://users.htcomp.net/ross/dar Bevers Cemetery-Palo Pinto Co. TX http://users.htcomp.net/ross/beverscem/ Coryell County List TXCoryel-L@rootsweb.com Kernut List "The most wasted day of all is that on which we have not laughed" ---Sebastien Roch Nicolas Chamfort, 1741-94

The list might also be interested in this link http://www.cah.utexas.edu/findingaids/census.html It's the Center for American History at UT. These census records are available on microfilm. Microprints can be made for $.25/per page. The machines only take copy cards, but those can be purchased at a number of locations on campus. Browse the site for lots of info. Nan Bradford-Reid

Dear List Members, felt sure that you would be interested in this, I will add this address to the front page of our home page. Bobbie ----- Original Message ----- From: John Schunk <jschunk@skpub.com> To: <bwross@htcomp.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: 1880 Coryell County Census > Hi, > > Thought you might want to let your Coryell County researchers know that S-K > Publications now has the 1880 Census scanned images available on CD, as > described at http://www.SKcensus.com/census/tx/coryell.html > > We also have a County Census Divisions map at that URL which may be of help > to researchers. > > Would it be OK if we add a link to your Coryell County, TXGenWeb County site? > > Thanks, > John > > > > John F. Schunk > > S-K Publications > PO Box 8173 > Wichita KS 67208-0173 > PH 316-685-3201 > FAX 316-685-6650 > > john@SKcensus.com > http://www.SKcensus.com

Dear List Members: To : Those members with German Ancestry. You might be interested in an all-day seminar in Washington County, Breham, TX "Immigration - A seminar on immigration to America from German and English Ports of Embarkation". See the details at: http://www.startel.net/users/awhart/wcgs/washgene.htm Bobbie Ross, co-ordinator for Coryell County Texas http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcoryel/ Coryell County Genealogical Society http://users.htcomp.net/ccgs/index2.htm

Some new pictures up at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcoryel/ Bobbie Ross, co-ordinator for Coryell County Texas http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcoryel/ Coryell County Genealogical Society http://users.htcomp.net/ccgs/index2.htm

Dear List Members, This is the most fantastic collection of maps I've ever seen. http://www.davidrumsey.com Bobbie Ross, co-ordinator for Coryell County Texas http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcoryel/ Coryell County Genealogical Society http://users.htcomp.net/ccgs/index2.htm "The most wasted day of all is that on which we have not laughed" ---Sebastien Roch Nicolas Chamfort, 1741-94

You wrote: I do not find a marriage record for these two. Our marriage records have only been transcribed to about 1898. Bobbie Thanks for the try, I wasn't aware that I had all the published Coryell County Records...do you know if there will be more in the future? Darlene, Native Texan, in Illinois mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net MY GEDCOM found @: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ddevries Researching: Adams, Ayres, Barnett, Bilyeu, Brown, Brumley, De Vries, Doggett, Dykstra, Edwards, Fitzgerald, Harmsen, Kooinga, Kuiper, Lang, Lassiter, Prince, Reitsma, Stone, Witterhold, and many branches from these.

I do not find a marriage record for these two. Our marriage records have only been transcribed to about 1898. Bobbie ----- Original Message ----- From: GEO DEVRIES <mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net> To: <TXCORYEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: Marriage lookup for Mary Bertha "Birdie-Bertie" Edwards to John D. Williams > If someone has a source for marriages, I would appreciate a lookup for Mary > Bertha "Birdie, Bertie" Edwards to John D. Williams. I do not have a date > for their marriage, but know their first child was born in 1905 thus > narrowing the logical time of the marriage. Mary was born 1878 in Hamilton > County. I have the marriage books with listings through December 20, 1898 > and the marriage is are not listed. I would, therefore, assume she was > married between 1898-1904. I am checking in Coryell since she was born on > the border of Coryell and Hamilton Counties. > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > > Darlene, Native Texan, in Illinois > mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net > MY GEDCOM found @: > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ddevries > Researching: Adams, Ayres, Barnett, Bilyeu, Brown, Brumley, De Vries, > Doggett, Dykstra, Edwards, Fitzgerald, Harmsen, Kooinga, Kuiper, Lang, > Lassiter, Prince, Reitsma, Stone, Witterhold, and many branches from these. > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

If someone has a source for marriages, I would appreciate a lookup for Mary Bertha "Birdie, Bertie" Edwards to John D. Williams. I do not have a date for their marriage, but know their first child was born in 1905 thus narrowing the logical time of the marriage. Mary was born 1878 in Hamilton County. I have the marriage books with listings through December 20, 1898 and the marriage is are not listed. I would, therefore, assume she was married between 1898-1904. I am checking in Coryell since she was born on the border of Coryell and Hamilton Counties. Your help is greatly appreciated. Darlene, Native Texan, in Illinois mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net MY GEDCOM found @: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ddevries Researching: Adams, Ayres, Barnett, Bilyeu, Brown, Brumley, De Vries, Doggett, Dykstra, Edwards, Fitzgerald, Harmsen, Kooinga, Kuiper, Lang, Lassiter, Prince, Reitsma, Stone, Witterhold, and many branches from these.

I am looking for any WARRENs that may have come to Coryell County around 1880. The father of the family is Green B. Warren and his wife's name is Abigail ? Warren. They had at least 10 children, including my gr. grandfather, Reuben Willis (William?) Warren. I noticed the Warren-Miller Cemetery and was wondering if any of my relatives might be buried there. ANY help would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance! Kim Warren Thomas

I just talked to the Distribution center at Salt Lake. They are out of the 1880 Census index CD. They have 50,000 coming in August 1st. If you ordered it and have not received it you may want to call them. If you placed the order over the internet your card was not charged, and the order canceled once they ran out. If you receive this on more than one list from me sorry. Martha

Thank you to Winona, Mike, Martha, and Brian for help in the search of my 2nd great-grandfather's book. I can hardly wait to order this book for interlibrary loan and this couldn't of been possible without your kind help. What a blessing to have such sharing people to turn to for help. Your help was greatly appreciated. Darlene, Native Texan, in Illinois mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net MY GEDCOM found @: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ddevries Researching: Adams, Ayres, Barnett, Bilyeu, Brown, Brumley, De Vries, Doggett, Dykstra, Edwards, Fitzgerald, Harmsen, Kooinga, Kuiper, Lang, Lassiter, Prince, Reitsma, Stone, Witterhold, and many branches from these.

George, You can search the Library of Congress catalog online here: http://catalog.loc.gov/ They have this reference: LC Control Number: 07019837 Type of Material: Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.) Brief Description: Ayres, D. M. The desire of the people. Bryan, Tex., The Bryan eagle print, 1894. [124] p. 18 cm. CALL NUMBER: RS127 .A96 With this information you may be able to borrow a copy through your local library via inter-library loan. ..Mike Allen -----Original Message----- From: GEO DEVRIES [mailto:mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:17 AM To: TXCORYEL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Help on locating a book written in 1894 by Daniel Monro Ayres & Thornhill I have just found that my 2nd great-grandfather, Dr. Daniel Monroe Ayres (listed as D.M. Ayres) complied a book with a Thornhill while residing in Coryell County, Texas in 1894. I would appreciate it if anyone on the list knows how I can find a copy? I know it was printed by Bryan Eagle Print in Bryan, Brazos or Wise County,Texas and part of the name is "Desires of the People Suffering Humanity May Rejoice" (the last couple of words may be incorrect). Someone has suggested contacting the Librarian of Congress, but I am not sure how to go about that, either. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Darlene, Native Texan, in Illinois mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net MY GEDCOM found @: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ddevries Researching: Adams, Ayres, Barnett, Bilyeu, Brown, Brumley, De Vries, Doggett, Dykstra, Edwards, Fitzgerald, Harmsen, Kooinga, Kuiper, Lang, Lassiter, Prince, Reitsma, Stone, Witterhold, and many branches from these. ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Info on the book from Library of Congress' online catalog: LC Control Number: 07019837 Type of Material: Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.) Brief Description: Ayres, D. M. The desire of the people. Bryan, Tex., The Bryan eagle print, 1894. [124] p. 18 cm. CALL NUMBER: RS127 .A96 Copy 1 -- Request in: Jefferson or Adams Bldg General or Area Studies Reading Rms -- Status: Not Charged The library's catalog is at: http://catalog.loc.gov/ Didn't get it to come up by name at first, but then clicked on "set search limits" and put in the creation date of 1894. Then went back to the search and did a name browse for Ayres. On the second page D.M. Ayres appears, if you click on the link you will go to the above reference. I would suggest going to your local library and see if they can get the book somewhere through interlibrary loan. Brian Bivona Waco, Texas > -----Original Message----- > From: GEO DEVRIES [mailto:mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:17 AM > I have just found that my 2nd great-grandfather, Dr. Daniel Monroe Ayres > (listed as D.M. Ayres) complied a book with a Thornhill while residing in > Coryell County, Texas in 1894. > Someone has suggested contacting the Librarian of Congress, but I am not > sure how to go about that, either.

I have just found that my 2nd great-grandfather, Dr. Daniel Monroe Ayres (listed as D.M. Ayres) complied a book with a Thornhill while residing in Coryell County, Texas in 1894. I would appreciate it if anyone on the list knows how I can find a copy? I know it was printed by Bryan Eagle Print in Bryan, Brazos or Wise County,Texas and part of the name is "Desires of the People Suffering Humanity May Rejoice" (the last couple of words may be incorrect). Someone has suggested contacting the Librarian of Congress, but I am not sure how to go about that, either. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Darlene, Native Texan, in Illinois mdgdevries@worldnet.att.net MY GEDCOM found @: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ddevries Researching: Adams, Ayres, Barnett, Bilyeu, Brown, Brumley, De Vries, Doggett, Dykstra, Edwards, Fitzgerald, Harmsen, Kooinga, Kuiper, Lang, Lassiter, Prince, Reitsma, Stone, Witterhold, and many branches from these.

Richard Williams Jr was born @ 1812 in Blount County, TN. He moved with his family to Texas in the 1840s, eventually settling near Gatesville, Coryell County. He died in 1857 near Gatesville. Some time after that his remains were moved to an unmarked grave in the Old Howard Cemetary in Troy, Bell County, Texas. Richard was widowed in the 1850 census. He remarried between 1850 and 1857, county unknown. Richard's oldest child, Sara E Williams, was born in Blount County, TN @ 1837. She married somewhere in central Texas before the 1860 Census. Does anyone have the marriage record of Richard Williams Jr and his 2nd wife, name unknown? Does anyone have the marriage record of Sara E Williams and unknown. I did not find them in Coryell County, so either I overlooked the records or the father and daughter were married in one of the surrounding counties. Thank you very much. David Strickland dstrickland@optekinc.com Dallas, TX

Was John McCoy Key father to George Key who married Lucy Grace Jewell? If so, do you have information on their son, Miles Key? Donna Boyd in Va.