Subject: RED RIVER FERRIES Dear Texas List, Got a couple of e-mails about East and North Texas. They are fun, but could you do it this way: I got to see these Pineie-Woods, maybe this summer, and can you tell me where by miles south of Okla. and miles east of Louisiana, or is this against Texas rules of mesurement and weights.<G> Is there anyone into Ferry research along red river, as far west as Cooke County? The way I understand it the county would sell you a permit to operate a ferry and take a percent. I looked for the Ferry Bond Book in Cooke County and it was gone, it would of listed operators. I guess it would of been same for Grayson, Fannin, and the County Paris is in. My Grand Father Walter E. Coffman, b.1867-1946 was a Texan, Born where, I'm not sure except his father put down Tex. in 1870 Census of Fannin,Co. Walter father, A.D. Coffman,b.1824 Tenn. Died by family records 11/3/1873 in Cooke,Co. A.D. was also called Dedrick and sometimes last name Kauffman. The reason I'm asking is my Grandfather almost had to grow up on his own after age 6 along the Red River, his father and mother both dead. He may of had a step mom. part of the time in Bonham, by name of Laura F. Brown, A.D. married her in 1871 in Fannin. Walters stories were filled tails of working on the Red River Ferry. (he was showed in 1880 Census of Cooke living in a boarding house) He told of taking outlaws, as passengers, across the river just before the sheriff got there, The Indian's, Gun Fights. I guess the people of the Red river raised him. He worked on ferry until he was 22 and then left the area. That would of been in abt.1889. He then traveled all of Texas as a traveling Potographer taking pictures of people and even some for the railroad in far west Texas to promote the sale of land to the people of the East. Displayed his work in 1903 at Worlds Fair in St. Louis, and won 3rd. place. A real Texan this grandfather of mine, and my father was also. Dad was a real cowboy and rode the range in western Texas where the counties are as big as some states. Walter had poto Studios all over Texas at different times and places. He spoke of Denton, Tx. as one. If anyone ever heard of this Texan Along the Red River, Please let us know the tail. Respectfully Sumited, Carl Coffman,B.1933 From Way North Texas near Kansas. Regards: Carl and Zella (daughter) Coffman 1448 S Handley St. Wichita, KS 67213 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- From: "zella coffman" <zcoffman@hotmail.com> To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RED RIVER FERRIES Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 01:14:20 PST Dear Texas List, Got a couple of e-mails about East and North Texas. They are fun, but could you do it this way: I got to see these Pineie-Woods, maybe this summer, and can you tell me where by miles south of Okla. and miles east of Louisiana, or is this against Texas rules of mesurement and weights.<G> Is there anyone into Ferry research along red river, as far west as Cooke County? The way I understand it the county would sell you a permit to operate a ferry and take a percent. I looked for the Ferry Bond Book in Cooke County and it was gone, it would of listed operators. I guess it would of been same for Grayson, Fannin, and the County Paris is in. My Grand Father Walter E. Coffman, b.1867-1946 was a Texan, Born where, I'm not sure except his father put down Tex. in 1870 Census of Fannin,Co. Walter father, A.D. Coffman,b.1824 Tenn. Died by family records 11/3/1873 in Cooke,Co. A.D. was also called Dedrick and sometimes last name Kauffman. The reason I'm asking is my Grandfather almost had to grow up on his own after age 6 along the Red River, his father and mother both dead. He may of had a step mom. part of the time in Bonham, by name of Laura F. Brown, A.D. married her in 1871 in Fannin. Walters stories were filled tails of working on the Red River Ferry. (he was showed in 1880 Census of Cooke living in a boarding house) He told of taking outlaws, as passengers, across the river just before the sheriff got there, The Indian's, Gun Fights. I guess the people of the Red river raised him. He worked on ferry until he was 22 and then left the area. That would of been in abt.1889. He then traveled all of Texas as a traveling Potographer taking pictures of people and even some for the railroad in far west Texas to promote the sale of land to the people of the East. Displayed his work in 1903 at Worlds Fair in St. Louis, and won 3rd. place. A real Texan this grandfather of mine, and my father was also. Dad was a real cowboy and rode the range in western Texas where the counties are as big as some states. Walter had poto Studios all over Texas at different times and places. He spoke of Denton, Tx. as one. If anyone ever heard of this Texan Along the Red River, Please let us know the tail. Respectfully Sumited, Carl Coffman,B.1933 From Way North Texas near Kansas. Regards: Carl and Zella (daughter) Coffman 1448 S Handley St. Wichita, KS 67213 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Good-day! Researching surnames WOOD-BROWN-JETER-PICKERING of Cooke County circa 1880. Thank you.. Wendy

Robert Young(?) RUSSELL was born Dec. 1823 in SC (according to the IGI), married Martha Mitchell in Griffin, GA in 1851. They lived there a few years. They lived in Claiborne Parish, LA from 1859 into the 1860s, thence to Collin Co., Cooke Co., and Wise Co., all in TX. The 1880 Wise Co. census lists him as a retired physician and paralytic. He died in 1884. I very much want to get behind him (his parents, siblings, education, where in SC?) I would also love to make contact with other descendants. Nine children known to have survived to adulthood: Mary Elizabeth, William Shatteen, Thomas F, James PC, Martha Ella or Ellen, Muskogee Amogene, Judith Lilla, John Edgar, and Ida Bell.

Margaret Ida Rose Puntch b. 10 Jan 1868 in Missouri. Married a Kitchens, Ross and then a Howell. She had these children: Bob Laverna May Bonnice or Burnice Anyone who has info on Aunt Maggie please contact me. Thank you Sandy Ross Butcher

Looking for Pat H. SIMPSON and his wife Annie (BRIMBERRY) SIMPSON. The are listed in the 1880 Census of Cooke County Texas, Gainsville Pre* #5. Would appreciate any info that might be laying around. Thanks mebrimberry@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I am looking for information on the following people: Isaac Park/s Martha Barber Park/s child Laura Abigail Parks b. Nov 13, 1867 in Marysville, TX. Any information is appreciated! I noticed that she was listed as born in Marysville on her Death Certificate. I was always told a different county. Hope to find some good leads now that I'm following the right trail. Thanks, Jennifer

Would anyone happen to know if I would be able to obtain any info about a death in 1902? I don't know what papers were available at that time, but I do know the exact date. Can anyone help? Teresa

Hi Louise, Please understand I am a giving person also. I just give Harrison Co. Tx. Historial Socy. full permission to print, and to give us credit as the writes and it "must be used for non profit use". There are those that would take storys, print them up ,and sale them. This Story must always be free, and that why the Copy right, to try to keep those type people from making money off our work, but I'll let them read it FREE. About a week I'll have next instillment, and the next one after that (the last one) tells how this very old mystery (50 years) was solved and it was by genealogy process, but Police methods, Thanks Louise for the kind words. Regards, Carl Coffman In Wichita. From: "Louise Reply-To:<zcoffman@hotmail.com To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: List People Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:04:31 -0800 I am sorry to hear you are not well Jo I have put you on my prayer list and hope to see you back in the fold very soon. Those emails sure can get out of hand if your not on top of them and better to lay low until you can get to all of them. I am waiting with much enthusiasm for the next installment of 'AND AWAY WENT THE RABBIT' Good work. Now for that copy write thing. I have a number of Texas pictures and genealogy on line. I figured I put it all there as a means to give anyone a lift up to a limb on their own tree. I just took my gedcom off line because I found two dates that were not correct. If everyone was that particular, I guess we would not have to worry about copy writes. They could find a family a lot sooner, be more sure it really was their family and not be concerned about how much they were gonna make off a lot of passed on peoples birth and death dates. I don't figure I will ever write a book on all my Kin, and I sure don't put anyone down who does. I am only concerned with the ones who ain't kin who collect others and steal what they don't have a right to sell. Yup.. if it's public it isn't copy rite, only your page and what you write personally is protected. God Bless you all. and enjoy the Lords day. Lou ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

COPY RIGHTED Dec.10/1999 By Zella and Carl Coffman AND AWAY WENT THE RABBIT Greetings, This is a story that has mystery, A war between the peoples of two Missouri Counties and Bullies, that took the Missouri State Army to bring under control, A man on the run-and maybe his wife and children also-for their lives, (or was it from his first wife?) It was one or the other. About a Baptist Church in Aldrich,Mo. being took over by thugs and threatened. About the Military Highway that runs south out of Kansas City between the state lines of Kansas and Missouri and so on into Texas and Louisiana, and some very hot saddles on the way to Texas and Shreveport,LA. A man still on the run, in Texas, and was Killed, we sure wish we could tell you how, Was it Indians raiding along the Red River, or did the bad guys catch him in the end. I call him the Rabbit but the name he was born with was Andrew D. Coffman,b.1824 in Grainger Tennessee. My Daug, Zella Coffman and my self , Carl Coffman in Wichita, are a co-team, after and chasing as fast as we can on a very long lost rabbit, that we found Court Doc. on in Fannin Co.last week . We were there in person, and everybody was super and nice and very helpful. I loved the way the clerk ladies talked, they were charming. We had a lot of success in the records at court house. and went to view Great-Grandfather and our Great-Grandmothers land 4 miles north on farm road # 898. When I say land I mean the general area. There was no cemetery index at Brown's cemetery but we sure did look just the same as it would be just west of the part section of the farm. Lot of un-marked graves. Let me jump to a new para. and tell the list a story of this Rabbit who had 4 wives. Two married other In Harrison County and ended up in Fannin. A girl friend in Grayson. Our records show he died in Cooke 11/3/1873 Married in Polk Co. Missouri,#1, next #2 (our Anc. In Harrison) #3 In Harrison, Co. Tx Also. # 4 in Fannin 1870 to Laura F. Brown (she is all over Fannin Census, kept the Brown Name after Andrew Died. Well the stage is set for over a 50 year chase after his Info and that of his children's. Got to admit, The Red River Valley was a nice place to stop running. This story started in Tenn. in the year of Andrew David Coffman and twin brother John H.B. Coffman birth,1824 . There was 9-11 children born to David,b.1787-1838 and wife Susanna Bunch. David Father was in the American Rev and lived in Lancaster Penn. and left Penn with a brother about1780 to Tenn.. Let see we have Andrew's father and grandfather listed and that far enough for now. How?? it was easy as they never were lost like this Rabbit,Andrew D,a/k/a Dedrick /Deadrich Coffman,a/k/a, Haufman/Kaufmann/ kauffman. Lost my place here, just to many names for one person; oh yes Andrew was born in 1824 in Tenn. His father David was a Baptist Preacher and had a calling to go the wilds of Missouri to start a church/school in abt. 1835. children, friends, and members Build it and I've been there in Aldrish, Mo. near the Truman Dam, Walked the farm on canes and said a few words over David and Susanna Graves on their own old homestead. I felt very sad that he only lived about three years after coming to missouri. Susanna raised all her children. There was a private war broke out in Polk and Benton Counties of mountain men. It was called the slickers war and it was run by a bully and his 4 sons and bar room buddies, If this bunch didn't like you they would steal your land, Tie you to a tree, tear off your shirt,take a small limb, tear off all bark, and beat your back until you were bleeding, and what ever and untied you and told to leave the county or die. Those against the Slickers were called Anti-Slickers. There was many killings for a period of 4-5 years and there wasn't enough law to control them.. The slickers were at a Baptist church meeting at Aldrich about 4 years after David the preacher died, and thought the words the preacher was speaking on was directed at them. They got up in front and told all the members if they didn't, stop they would be run out of the county also. Andrew and his Family had to be in attendance that night. Many were killed, run out of the county, and it took the Missouri Army to stop the mayhem in these two counties.The book is for sale about the Slickers War at, Polk County, Mo.Historical Socy., Bolivar.Mo. Andrew 1st. Married was in 1849 to a very nice Tenn.lady and I never could find out any info on her, nor if she had any children with Andrew. Her name was Elizabeth S. Sanders. I did find them as a couple in the 1850 Polk Co, Census and never again together. found Andrew Again in Caddo,La./ Harrison,Tx.I did Find a Elizabeth Sanders marring again in 1854 at Jefferson County Mo. That is just west of St. Lewis and Two Boys named Sanders in next county west of Polk, Dade Co.with a family of a different name. The story was they were being raised there because they couldn't't get along with one of their parents. I will always will wonder,as the boys could of had mother's maiden name and if Andrew, Elizabeth, and those two boys were on the run for their lives and all went in different directions, because of fall-out from the Slickers War. Some of the Slicker and Anti-slickers must of hated until they died. We call that the Show-Me-State. Any way the family is all gone and couldn't be found except Andrew under A different name, was shown marring Magdaline S. Sheltman In Caddo Parish.LA.in March of 1866. The marriage did take then but not in Caddo Parish. I found #2 marriage in the marriage book in Harrison Co.Tx. as Dedrick Haufman. We know it is's Andrew as when we looked at land sales in Fannin after Magdaline died, he signed Andrew D. Coffman. Magdaline had "twins" in 1867, a son named Hugh in 1869. Magdaline died 3 months later and Hugh 3 months after that. That left Andrew with Magdaline's 4 and two baby's age 2-3 years old. "What To Do, Oh What To Do" the Rabbit says. We think we can tell you a close story of what happen. We could probably prove most of it if we wanted to go on a records search in Harrison County, but out tree doesn't need it. Magdaline S. Sheltman and Thomas Harrison were Married in Harrison, Co.Tx. On The 1850 Harrison Census the Harrison and Sheltman were very near one another. I have saw some places that Magdaline may of been 11 when she got married? We think Andrew got a baby setter for the twins, Took the 4 children to the farms of the Sheltmans and Harrison. Found a wife probably really quick in Harrison, Co. by the name of Virginia, of which he filed divorce in Fannin in early 1770 against her. We know that was where she was from because the sheriff tried to serve papers on her in Harrison Co. from looking at the sheriff's return. (note to Harrison Co. list readers, Would someone do a marriages look-up at Court Clerk office in Harrison Co. on Virginia______ and Andrew/Dedrick Coffman/kaufman/Kauffman/Haufman and Magdaline S. Sheltman for year 1869 or 1870 and This one I want to buy Or have the Original certified re-turned copy, that they were to pick-up after 60 days. My father Otto Coffman age 92 and my self,age 67 are next of kin. I will pay a small fee for your help. Will the rabbit Is slowing down. I don't think he is looking over his shoulder as much as he is usually is. He married Laura F. Brown From Bonham,Fannin County,in March 19/1871 under Andrew D. and sold 3 plots of land that had been i Magdaline in name as andrew D. See what 4 wives and on the run will do to you, and a girl friend in Sherman, Grayson County. What you want to hear about the girl friend? And you want to know how this case of mis-direction was solved? To Be continued, Zella And Daddy Carl in Wichita Regards: Carl and Zella (daughter) Coffman 1448 S. Handley St. Wichita, KS 67213 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Does anyone have the cemeteries of Cooke co book who could do some lookups for me? Or, Does anyone have the phone numbers of any cemetries in the city of Gainesville or Cooke Co which would have offices i could call and ask for lookups? :) I'm still looking for the burials of: "P.E." Phillip Edward WILKINSON (or WILKERSON) born 3 Jul 1857 - died 17 mar 1899. and "Addie" (Hannah Adeline) WILKINSON (or WILKERSON, maiden name BAILEY) born 1 Jan 1859 - died 25 Sep 1910. According to delayed birth records they are buried in Gainesville area. Thanks! :) -Ben -- bhines@san.rr.com "You're either in with the lizard people <http://members.tripod.com/~tunnels/> or you're not" - Tori Amos

Good-day! Am researching the following names in Cooke Co., TX. circa 1870-80: PICKERING (anyone with this surname). J.C. BROWN, b abt 1855, married MARY EVA PICKERING, 1875, Cooke Co.,TX. J.A. WOOD, b abt 1857, married JOHN D. PICKERING, 1875, Cooke Co.,TX. In 1877-78, John D. and J.A. lived up near Saddler's Bend, located in the northwest part of Cooke County near Bulcher. If anyone had WOOD or BROWN relatives in Cooke County during this time, I would appreciate hearing from you. I really need to find parents and sibblings for these people. Thanks so much! wendy

Oh well, Genealogy does overwhelm us at times... The Digital Online Library of Virginia also has a NEW address, below http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/index.htm Jerry Cann

I'm searching for the following and would like to share information!! Adam Walter HAYNIE b.10 February 1879 in Collinsville, Ala. d.26 February 1942 Christopher Columbus BLACKBURN b.1836 in Mo d.1904 Harrison Henry GOODMAN b.4 April 18820 in Raysville,Mo d.27 February 1964 in Tillman co, Okla. Henry Green BRATTON b.18 May 1866 d.8 October 1925 James B.KELLY b. 1 June 1816 John Henry Lyman DICKERMAN b.Sherman, Grayson county, Texas. John Leroy MILLIRONS b. 3 March 1880 in Fyffe, DeKalb co. d.5 February 1957 William HOOVER b.ABT 1778 in Baden, Germany Peggy Haynie Icq #5647981 http://www.angelfire.com/pe/okiesny/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/y/Peggy-J-Haynie/ Peggy in Okla

I'm posting this "just in case" someone in Texas might recognize story or names..... > >My Brick Wall: Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" ELLIS b 1867 Tishomingo Co., MS, dau >>of William ELLIS and Mary HORTON living in Sneed (Carter Co.) I.T. a 1880. >>Married 1)John L. BYRNE in 1883 m 2) George ISAACS, 1891 in El Reno, >>Canandian Co., I.T. - George ISAACS was sentenced to life in prison for his >>involvement >>with DOOLIN >>gang in 1895. Mary Elizabeth ISAACS, widow w/3 sons, Wiley Byrne, Richard >>Isaacs and Roy Isaacs, living in Chickasha, >>OK in 1900 census; Lizzie ISAACS , widow w/2 sons, Richard Isaacs and Roy >>Isaacs, living in Clinton, Greer >>Co., in 1910 census. Lizzie was murdered by Tom SPARKS (ex-husband of >>Lizzie's younger sister) in January 1914 after burning his barn down. >> >>Lizzie may have been married to Tom by this date however there is no record >>of marriage(nor have I found a record of divorce for her from George ISAACS >>however George has escaped from prison by this date but his whereabouts >>remained unknown). She reportedly "caught" Tom with another woman which >>resulted in her barn-burning revenge. Tom SPARKS was then killed by >Lizzie's >>2 >>sons, Richard and Roy Isaacs, the next day. They reportedly pumped 48 >>bullets into his body for killing their mother. >>I cannot find place of murder/barn burning/killings or burial under any of >>her names. I am 99% certain this happened in Oklahoma but I have not been >>able to obtain death certificate and I have not had an opportunity to >search >>newspapers other than the local Daily Ardmoreite. You would think that a >>barn-burning and 2 murders would be newsworthy. Sometimes I wonder about >>the death date as the only record I've ever seen was in the Ellis Family >>Bible and just a short entry "Lizzie died Jan 1914". In that day and time, >>I am assuming the Ellis family (ultra-conservative, respectable God-fearing >>people) was extremely upset and embarrassed by Lizzie's lifestyle and just >>shoved it all in the closet with the other skeltons. The ones that knew >the >>whole story are gone and the ones that passed this story on to me did not >>have any details. However, I have heard the same version of this story >from >>Byrne, Ellis and Isaac family ancestors that don't even know each other. >>Thank you for any help. >>Carol in Okla >>surnames: Adkison-Byrns-Butler-Ellis-Foy-Haney-Isaacs-Kincannon-Morgan- >> Love-Morse-Patterson-Payne-Weir >> >>--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- >> >>Get EXPERT CONTENT at ONElist! >>Join PROS&PUNDITS. For details go to: >><a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/prospun1 ">Click Here</a> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Community email addresses: >> Post message: CandymanGenieAngels@onelist.com >> Subscribe: CandymanGenieAngels-subscribe@onelist.com >> Unsubscribe: CandymanGenieAngels-unsubscribe@onelist.com >> List owner: CandymanGenieAngels-owner@onelist.com >> >>Shortcut URL to this page: >> http://www.onelist.com/community/CandymanGenieAngels >> > > >============================== >RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! >Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Oops! I forgot to mention the DIAMOND family name. Thanks! Liz -----Original Message----- From: Liz Tomlinson <tomliliz@clearsail.net> To: TXCOOKE-L@rootsweb.com <TXCOOKE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 16, 1999 4:50 PM Subject: Diddle Hi, I am new to this list and am researching the DIDDLE family name. Anybody out there with any DIDDLES in their tree? Thanks, Liz

Hi, I am new to this list and am researching the DIDDLE family name. Anybody out there with any DIDDLES in their tree? Thanks, Liz

: > I am search these surnames, and would like to share info. > > Adam Walter HAYNIE b.10 February 1879 in Collinsville, Ala. d.26 February > 1942 > > Christopher Columbus BLACKBURN b.1836 in Mo d.1904 > > Harrison Henry GOODMAN b.4 April 18820 in Raysville,Mo d.27 February 1964 in > Tillman co, Okla. > > Henry Green BRATTON b.18 May 1866 d.8 October 1925 > > James B.KELLY b. 1 June 1816 > > John Henry Lyman DICKERMAN b.Sherman, Grayson county, Texas. > > John Leroy MILLIRONS b. 3 March 1880 in Fyffe, DeKalb co. d.5 February 1957 > > William HOOVER b.ABT 1778 in Baden, Germany > > Peggy Haynie > Icq #5647981 > http://www.angelfire.com/pe/okiesny/ > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/y/Peggy-J-Haynie/ > > Peggy in Okla >

I'm so sorry about that message that was sent to my Cousin Sandra showing up on the list!! I don't know what I did--- my only excuse is that it was late and I hit some wrong buttons somewhere. Please delete and ignore. Carol in Okla surnames: Adkison-Byrns-Butler-Ellis-Foy-Haney-Isaacs-Kincannon- Love-Morse-Patterson-Payne-Weir

Hello Cousin Sandra!! Cindy sent me your information and the picture of John A. and Nancy...we couldn't believe there was a 3rd picture of them. I had one and Cindy had one but neither of us had seen this one before. How exciting to meet you. My granny was Tempe Caroline Patterson, youngest daughter of John A. and Nancy - little sister to all the Patterson "boys"- wife of Albert Jasper Butler (Palo Pinto) - mother to my grandmother, Birdie Lee Butler and grandmother to my daddy....etc. etc. Cindy and I just found each other a few months ago and have been exchanging information and pictures. I live in Carter County, Oklahoma where all the Pattersons, except for George, moved to in the latter 1880's. I've visited Bosley cemetery and taken pictures of George and Amanda's graves as well as John A. and Nancy (Ferrell) Patterson's - and their children. Has Cindy sent you family information yet? You asked about John A.'s brother - he was "Uncle Pit" or Daniel Pitchford Patterson b 24 Nov 1833 and married Elizabeth Hart in 1854. Pit visited Texas a few times but remained in Ripley. You are so fortunate to live where you do right next to the Archives and Vital's - you realize we will keep you busy now <g> Just wanted to say hello and welcome to the family. I'll be talking to you more tomorrow but it's almost 11 and this old lady has got to get to bed. Can't wait to find out more about George and his family and exchange pictures with you. Believe it or not, your picture is a younger version of John A. and Nancy than what we have (or maybe not - they look old in all the pictures, come to think of it!) - my granny looked exactly like her mother! Later, you Cousin Carol in Okla surnames: Adkison-Byrns-Butler-Ellis-Foy-Haney-Isaacs-Kincannon- Love-Morse-Patterson-Payne-Weir