This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HL2604 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1870.1.5.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No relation! You indicated marriage to Felix Kilpatrick and kinship to Dan Sheffield. Are you certain "this" Myrtle is the object of your search? Provide more details and someone will assist. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arthurs175 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1870.1.5.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, are you related? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HL2604 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1870.1.5.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No doubt the correct surname is/was "Shuffield". She was, indeed, married to Barto Clarence Shuffield (28 Sep 1887 - 6 Nov 1939). Review his memorial on findagrave for Robertson County, TX. Wife and both kids are linked. View 1920 TX-Milam-Precinct 2-District 118-Image 25 for "Barlie" Shuffield(30), Myrtle(27), and Hall(3/12). They are in the midst of Shuffield-relatives. Unable to explain why Shuffield and Sheffield used alternately! That happened on Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997 for Marion Lillian Shuffield married to Joe M. Cline. Her surname listed as Sheffield vs her brother listed correctly. We've had prior communications so trust me on this? The obit is "wrong" where Myrtle's surname is concerned! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arthurs175 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1870.1.5.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, that's very interesting. I'm referring to the person below whose name is Myrtle Sheffield. Then Myrtle Shuffield and Myrtle Sheffield would be different persons? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sain_Paula Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1870.1.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Myrtle Cavin married a SHUFFIELD not Sheffield. https://familysearch.org Name: Sarah Elizabeth Cavin Death Date: 21 Jun 1935 Death Place: Ballinger, Runnels, Texas Gender: Female Race: white Death Age: 76 years 7 months 25 days Estimated Birth Date: Birth Date: 25 Oct 1858 Birthplace: Texas Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: W.T. Cavin Father's Name: Lewis Thomas Father's Birthplace: Kentucky Mother's Name: Margaret Cates Mother's Birthplace: Texas Occupation: Housewife Place of Residence: Ballinger, , Texas Cemetery: Brady Burial Place: Burial Date: 22 Jun 1935 Additional Relatives: W T Cavin informant Film Number: 2116472 Digital Film Number: 4166560 Image Number: 1745 Reference Number: cn 30161 Source Citation "Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org Name: Lula Mckee Death Date: 31 Dec 1936 Death Place: Menard, Menard, Texas Gender: Female Race: W Death Age: 54 years 2 months 20 days Estimated Birth Date: Birth Date: 11 Oct 1882 Birthplace: Burnett Co., Texas Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: W. G. Mckee Father's Name: W. T. Cavin Father's Birthplace: Mississippi Mother's Name: Bettie Thomas Mother's Birthplace: Burentt Co., Texas Occupation: Housewife Place of Residence: Cemetery: Burial Place: Live Oak Burial Date: 01 Jan 1937 Additional Relatives: X Film Number: 2117124 Digital Film Number: 4166733 Image Number: 2737 Reference Number: v X cn 72495 Name: William Thomas Cavin Death Date: 04 Jul 1936 Death Place: Ballinger, Runnels, Texas Gender: Male Race: White Death Age: 79 years 1 month 16 days Estimated Birth Date: Birth Date: 18 May 1857 Birthplace: Miss. Marital Status: Widowed Spouse's Name: Sarah Elizabeth Cavin Father's Name: W.T. Cavin Father's Birthplace: Miss. Mother's Name: Mary Lamar Mother's Birthplace: Miss. Occupation: Farmer Place of Residence: Ballinger, Texas Cemetery: Burial Place: Brady, Texas Burial Date: 05 Jul 1936 Additional Relatives: Paul Edmund Cavin, Eden informant born 27 Feb 1888 Marble Falls, Burnet Co Film Number: 2116938 Digital Film Number: 4166608 Image Number: 2488 Reference Number: 37755 Source Citation "Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org Name: Ford T. Cavin Death Date: 19 May 1950 Death Place: Austin, Travis, Texas Gender: Male Race: White Death Age: 60 years 4 months 8 days Estimated Birth Date: Birth Date: 11 Jan 1890 Birthplace: Burnet, Texas Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Father's Name: William T. Cavin Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Betty Thomas Mother's Birthplace: Occupation: Farmer Place of Residence: Eden, Concho, Texas Cemetery: Eden, Texas Burial Place: Eden, Texas Burial Date: 19 May 1950 Additional Relatives: Film Number: 2074370 Digital Film Number: 4166779 Image Number: 350 Reference Number: cn 25533 Name: Ross Walton Cavin Death Date: 24 Aug 1930 Death Place: , Mcculloch, Texas Gender: Male Race: White Death Age: 44 years 6 months 5 days Estimated Birth Date: Birth Date: 19 Feb 1886 Birthplace: Burnet County, Tx. Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Artie V. Cavin Father's Name: Bill Cavin Father's Birthplace: Mississippi Mother's Name: Thomas Mother's Birthplace: Unknown Occupation: Ranch Man Place of Residence: Cemetery: Burial Place: Brady, Tx. Burial Date: 26 Aug 1930 Additional Relatives: Film Number: 2135389 Digital Film Number: 4163677 Image Number: 2939 Reference Number: cn 40858 Name: Myrtle C. Shuffield Death Date: 28 May 1971 Death Place: New Braunfels, Comal, Texas New Braunfels Hosp Gender: Female Race: Death Age: 78 years Estimated Birth Date: 1893 Birth Date: 04 Oct 1892 Birthplace: Texas Marital Status: widowed Spouse's Name: Father's Name: W. C. Cavin Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Occupation: Place of Residence: 413 N River St, Seguin, Guadalupe Co Cemetery: Guadalupe Valley Memorial Park Burial Place: Burial Date: Additional Relatives: Mrs. Joe Cline informant Film Number: 2223199 Digital Film Number: 4169857 Image Number: 218 Reference Number: Source Citation "Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org Name: Myrtle Shuffield 1920 Residence: , Milam, Texas Estimated Birth Year: 1893 Age: 27 Birthplace: Texas Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Gender: Female Race: White Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: Mississippi Mother's Birthplace: Texas Film Number: 1821833 Digital Folder Number: 4390896 Image Number: 00091 Sheet Number: 13 SELF Borlie Shuffield M 30y Texas GA AL WIFE Myrtle Shuffield F 27y Texas SON Hall Shuffield M 3m Texas Name: Bartie C Shuffield (father was Jasper mother Jane Celetha McGee SHUFFIELD) County: Milam State: Texas Birthplace: Texas,United States of America Birth Date: 28 Sep 1889 near Maysfield TX Race: American FHL Roll Number: 1983490 05 June 1917 single farming for brother Wm Henry Shuffield. Brother Dorchie S Shuffield born 22 Mar 1887 near Maysfield also registered in Milam Co Name: Myrtle Sheffield Event: Census Event Date: 1930 Event Place: Precinct 1, Concho, Texas Gender: Female Age: 37 Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Birthplace: Texas Estimated Birth Year: 1893 Immigration Year: Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Father's Birthplace: Mississippi Mother's Birthplace: Texas Enumeration District Number: 0001 Family Number: 192 Sheet Number and Letter: 10A Line Number: 36 NARA Publication: T626, roll 2311 Film Number: 2342045 Digital Folder Number: 4548200 Image Number: 00431 Daughter Myrtle Sheffield F 37 Texas Grandson Hall C Sheffield M 10 Texas Granddaughter Marian L Sheffield F 8 Texas Name: Bartie O Shuffield Event: Census Event Date: 1930 Event Place: Precinct 7, Bell, Texas Gender: Male Age: 41 Marital Status: Married Race: White Birthplace: Texas Estimated Birth Year: 1889 died 06 Nov 1939 Hammond, Robertson Co Immigration Year: Relationship to Head of Household: Head Father's Birthplace: Georgia Mother's Birthplace: Alabama Enumeration District Number: 0032 Family Number: 248 Sheet Number and Letter: 16A Line Number: 48 NARA Publication: T626, roll 2290 Film Number: 2342024 Digital Folder Number: 4547938 Image Number: 01074 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Bartie O Shuffield M 41 Texas Wife Victoria Shuffield F 38 Texas Stepdaughter Francis L Williams F 13 Texas Stepdaughter Geneva J Williams F 11 Texas Name: Bobbie Joe Cline Event: Birth Event Date: 26 Oct 1939 Event Place: Runnels, Texas Gender: Male Father: Joe M Cline Mother: Marion Sheffield Certificate Number: Source Citation "Texas, Birth Index, 1903-1997," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org Name: Hall Cavin Shuffield Title: Gender: Male Marital Status: Death Date: 07 Jul 1991 Death County: Harris Death Place: Harris, Texas, United States Source Citation "Texas, Death Index, 1964-1998," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org Hall Cavin Shuffield - Beatrice "Betty" Louise Travieso Cindy Lee Shuffield 27 Sept 1959 Bexar Dewey Hall Shuffield 07 Jul 1963 Bexar Vande DeMark Shuffield 03 Oct 1964 Bexar First Name: Marion Middle Name: Last Name: Cline Name Suffix: Birth Date: 28 June 1921 Social Security Number: 454-12-9561 Place of Issuance: Texas Last Residence: Converse, Bexar, Texas Zip Code of Last Residence: 78109 Death Date: 11 December 2004 Estimated Age at Death: 83 1900 Event Place: ED 107 Justice Precincts 1 & 6, Brady, McCulloch, Texas, United States & 1910 Milam County Birth Date: Oct 1892 Birthplace: Texas Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Father's Birthplace: Texas Mother's Birthplace: Texas Race or Color (Standardized): White Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Years Married: Estimated Marriage Year: Mother How Many Children: Number Living Children: Immigration Year: Page: 11 Sheet Letter: B Family Number: 199 Reference Number: 98 Film Number: 1241655 Digital Folder Number: 004118530 Image Number: 00950 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head William Cavin M 43 Texas Wife Bettie Cavin F 42 Texas bore 10 children 8 living Son Ross Cavin M 14 Texas Son Paul Cavin M 12 Texas Son Ford Cavin M 10 Texas Daughter Myrtle Cavin F 8 Texas Son Joe Cavin M 6 Texas Daughter Lillian Cavin F 3 Texas Son Dewey Cavin M 0 Texas Son Sheeley Cavin abt 1901 Name: Lula Cavin Mckee Titles & Terms: Event: Census Event Date: 1900 Event Place: ED 107 Justice Precincts 1 & 6, Brady, McCulloch, Texas, United States Birth Date: Oct 1882 Birthplace: Texas Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Father's Birthplace: Mississippi Mother's Birthplace: Texas Race or Color (Standardized): White Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Years Married: 0 Estimated Marriage Year: 1900 Mother How Many Children: 0 Number Living Children: 0 Immigration Year: Page: 11 Sheet Letter: B Family Number: 197 Reference Number: 85 Film Number: 1241655 Digital Folder Number: 004118530 Image Number: 00950 Head William Graves Mckee M 22 Arkansas Wife Lula Mckee F I AM NOT RELATED. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arthurs175 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1870.1.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not sure if this fits into what you are looking for, Sarah Elizabeth Cavin age 76 and longtime resident of Eden, Texas died at the home of her daughter Myrtle Sheffield on June 21, 1935 (See "The Abiline Morning News June 22, 1935). She was the widow of the late W.T. Cavin. She was survied by three daughters and two sons and was buried at Brady, Texas. I am intereseted in Myrtle Sheffield her daughter. She was married to Felix Kilpatrick who was killed in New Mexco in 1913 and was a cousin of Dan Sheffield of Sheffield, Texas. I can also find her on the 1930 Census living in Eden, Texas living with Wiliam T and Elizabeth Cavin ages 72. Any help on Myrtle Sheffield (Cavin) would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AliceMBolt Surnames: Bolt, Brooks, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2768.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching the Bolt family. They were in Burnet by 1852. Do you find that surname as members of the department? Please advise. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Deercamp97 Surnames: Schnabel, Chamberlain, Glimp Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2768.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for your reply about info for the BVFD. You can e-mail info and/or photos to deercamp97@gmail.com. Individual photos of the men, plus fire department groups or events would be great. Also if possible, a short bio of each of the men. Any info/photos on the families will be archived in the Burnet library's history files and can be included on Burnet TXGenWeb and the Fire Department Web sites. I really appreciate your help! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mikefrazer189 Surnames: schnabel, chamberlain, glimp Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2768.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Grandfrather was Herman Schnabel, the 1st chief of the department, my mother was Helen Schnabel, Two of my uncles are also on the Charter list, Bill chamberlain, and Stanley Glimp. I do have some photos if you will send me a reply. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: james_norred Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Highwater, I think I am on to something after many hours of digging into the Newton linage. The first thing I have to say is there is a lot of Newtons! Second is that many of them ended up in the state of Arkansas. Interesting enough though is the fact that most of them come from two main branches of the same family that migrated to the colonies in the 1600 and 1700's. Lets just say that I am more than 99% sure we are talking of a branch of Newtons from the same linage. Now Thomas Newton, youngest issue of Ebenezer Newton and his wife, Elizabeth Buchanan, had 9 issues. John T, Samuel Martin (my linage), Elizabeth Buchanan (named after her mother), Margaret McCurdy, Ebenezer, James, Ann, William Milton Harvey, and Elihu "Eli" Davis Newton. Now of those issue's Samuel, Ebenezer, Ann, William MH (note this one), and Eli all ended up in Arkansas. Their parents, the Rev. Thomas & Ann Martin Newton had migrated into North Carolina and passed there. The above issues plus others all migrated to the Northwest corner of Mississippi near Arkansas via Georgia and Alabama prior to their moving there. Some stayed behind in Mississippi and the ones mentioned above went to Arkansas abt 1851 and settled there. My linage, Samuel was there for a short period of time and for some reason migrated to Texas and ended up in Burnet county abt 1855. His son John Calvin bought the Newton land 5 miles North of Bertram in 1856. James Donald & Margaret Ann Newton, Samuel's older brother and younger sister also came with him. This would be the Margaret Ann we have been thinking was the one we were looking for. I bounced all around Ann Newton until I finally got all her info. She married a man by the name of John Holmes 22 Nov 1830 and they had three issues prior to his untimely death in 1850 just before the census. The three issues were all daughters and the first was named Margaret Ann Holmes (she often went by Newton) born 1831, the same year her aunt, daughter of Samuel, my Margaret Ann Newton. Not only that they were all living next to each other in Alabama at the time. They all moved to Mississippi together and Ann Newton moving on to Arkansas with Ebenezer, William, and Eli as she died there. It will take a bit more time but I think the daughter of Ann is the Margaret Ann we are looking for and the "Mrs" on the marriage licenses is because she married a Newton who was a distant cousin. I think I might know who and if confirmed I will post it. As to the other matter of J W and Mattie Newton and the NM - Ej Newtons who cleaned it up, I think I know what that is about too but need more research to be sure. The only thing wrong is the NM Newton needs to be MH newton which is what he went by ( I have found no Newtons yet that had a name starting with the letter n). This would be William Milton Harvey Newton Jr and his brother Ebenezer Jasper newton, sons of William Milton Harvey Newton Sr cleaning up a mess of their youngest brother John Wilson Newton (JW). As to the "Mattie" he supposedly married and helped out of her inheritance, without a maiden name I have no clue. I am still digging into this one. I also noticed an A L Newton on a lot of those deeds in Williams county too. He is another mystery and perhaps is an issue of Ebenezer. More to follow. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DwadeMcCommon Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1639.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the Photos you are talking about for people from Burnett county, do you have any for the Shepherd and Charlotte Corder Family and their children. This is my Great-Great-Grandparents. Thank you for your help. Dwade McCommon andypandy03@jscomm.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HighwaterCowboy Surnames: Newton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James, apparently I was wrong about whose deed was involved with paying back his wife's inheritance. It was NM Newton and EJ Newton. I finally found the note I wrote. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HighwaterCowboy Surnames: Newton, McDonald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: One further bit of information. The 2 lots owned in Florence by Thomas James McDonald, number 13 and parts of another...may have been right next to Mattie and John Newton, number 15 and part of number 14. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HighwaterCowboy Surnames: Newton, McDonald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James, Conundrum indeed! One thing I will tell you is that the death of Thomas James on May 26, 1874 would have been very traumatic for Martha Ann, whose name apears on the marriage license that way and the 1870 Bastrop census. When families wish to keep information private, we, 140 years later see the "hole" but don't know what the truth is. I suspect our Martha Ann would have gone back to her family after the death of her husband. I do not believe they had children themselves and Thomas' elder children would have cared for his younger ones. Now that 1870 census we speak of is a truly hard to understand one. We've always thought her age was 46, but the way the number 6 was written on that census by the enumerator might allow for it to be a zero, making her 40. Thomas' name is not written in, and the gender of at least one of the children is a mistake. We had a time convincing ourself that this was indeed our McDonald family due to all of the misfit information it contained. Andrew Cameron McDonald appeared on a census in two differen locations as well, and it was a similar situation as you mention, as Andrew owned two different ranches. The 1870 Bastrop census was enumerated on 24 Jun 1870. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: james_norred Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well this is a real interesting conundrum for sure Highwater, but I have made a little progress and perhaps a lead or two in the mean time. I will send you an email later for the deed link and see if it has any clues that catch my eyes. I try to keep all information I can in these message board threads as that puts more information out in the matrix which leads a greater possibility that others searching the same surname will find this thread. I find the message boards a very fruitful research tool and if I tend to be verbose you now know why ;-). Your posting this very query has led to some answers I have been looking for for some time now. First off I have not totally ruled out the Margaret Ann Newton I mentioned before who was a daughter of Samuel Martin Newton. Though on the surface one would say yea it's close but this and that doesn't match so lets move on, but when you look between the lines so to speak something else is trying to emerge. The thing that bothers me most is the lack of information my aunt Lena had on Margaret and that bothers me because Lena knew everything about everybody. I knew my aunt for years and this was her only passion. My father, James Clifford, after he got out of the Army Air Force in 1945 attended UT in Austin,Texas and while there lived with his aunt Lena and grandmother Nellie Mae. He would recount at family gatherings how he would be coming in late from a date or up late studying and Lena was always there at her messy desk banging away on that old Underwood. She wrote countless letters and the highlight of her day was when the postman arrived. Lena was born on the Norred farm in the old Hairston Creek community about 5 miles East by Southeast as the crow fly's of what's now Burnet, Texas in 1892. She knew these people and I used to love to set for hours and listen to her talk about it. I was born in 1953 and was almost 5 when Nellie Mae died and I remember this in a foggy way, i! f you know what I mean. Anyhow Lena was my favorite aunt and I spent a good deal of time with her until her death in 1969. I only mention all of this to qualify the accuracy of my records and hers. As mentioned a lot of my knowledge is based on oral family history, but I have several first cousins still living as well as my brother who remember the same things. Anyhow as I was saying it's the line in her records "... we don't know much about her early life and education, but after her fathers death ..." that makes the hair on the back of my neck tingle as in away it tends to line up with your information, give or take a year hear and there. Her father died in 1880 and you mention Thomas dieing in 1874 and do not know what happened to Margaret after that. I do have a 1870 census record showing her living with her father and mother at age 38. You have your 1870 census record showing her with Thomas at 46. Even with a \- 4 year spread I give to the accuracy of census records that is a 8 year difference. One could say someone else in the household could have provided her information which is often the case but a long shot. People often put to much stock in the accuracy of census records but in reality they can often be very inaccurate. A example would be my great grand uncle "William Wilson Norred" who I have on the 1900 census twice. Once in Billings county, North Dakota and a month lather in Custer, Montana. Wilson was a cowboy and both ranchers he was shown as a resident were business associates of his uncle Albert Arnett for whom he was working. He was driving cattle from ranches in Montana to ranches in North Dakota so you can see how this could happen. In both cases it is evident that someone else in the household filled ! in his information. As to being from Arkansas Samuel and family went from Mississippi first to Arkansas after 1850 and before 1855 when they first show up in Burnet county. In 1856 my gg grandfather, Rev. John Calvin Newton bought the original land North of Bertram. The is also James Donald I mentioned previously who was Johns brother but not a minister. Now lets go to Samuel's father, Rev. Thomas Newton and you have two maybe three of his issues migrating to Arkansas. I know for sure Ebenezer and William H. M. Newton both did. If we go back to Ebenezer Newton, Thomas's father there were 6 issues, Benjamin, William, John, Martha, Ebenezer Jr, and of course my linage, Thomas. As you know I know my linage well and I do know the linage of Capt. Benjamin as to another family researcher who is of his line. He did the DNA test and our Newton's go back to Sir Issac Newton. Ebenezer would be his 3rd cousin. Now Ebenezer's wife, Elizabeth Buchanan is linage of president Buchanan so it has been an interesting journey. Like I said my aunt had our line back to Ebenezer and always told us we were "possibly related" to Sir Issac and now I know. The Buchanan thing was out of left field. Just for kicks and giggles the data on my 1870 census is 17 August and the census take is W. W. Brooks. Samuel is listed as 78 and he was known to be ill for years prior to his death. She could have been staying with her parents and taking care of her father at the time and still married to Thomas. The only kicker is Lena would have known about that, but didn't mention the 1870 census either. I am not trying to make my Margaret fit in but I guess more so eliminate her. I feel strongly now your Margaret as well as the J. W. & Mattie Newton came from the same linage but the branches that migrated to Arkansas. So in closing this long narrative I hope there is a clue or two to be gleaned, at any rate like my aunt I love to tell a good story. Yes I am stumped at the moment but I think I explained my reasons for being so. I would find it really unusual that your Margaret Ann would not be of my linage either by marriage or birth simply from the shear density of my Newtons in the area at the time. I will keep looking and if you run across anything no matter how minor pass it to me and it might ring a bell. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HighwaterCowboy Surnames: McDonald, Newton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello James! On the 1870 census she is living with Thomas and 9 children ranging in age from 26 to 7. She is 46 and I think this is what we base her age and birth year on as 1824 as well as being born in Arkansas. You know how these censuses can be all over the place regarding reliability, but it's a reference. Regarding the John W and Mattie Newton...I cannot recall where I read that account or find it to save my life. I thought I'd read it on the deed, but not so. Perhaps I looked at a family tree, but I'm just not sure. I think the bent of wherever I read that is they must have had to live on that money....he left the sweetest message to her on the deed, so he must have held her in the highest regard. That "Mrs." has bugged us for years. It does not give her age, but the preacher who married them was DK Stewart. I'm stumped as to whether I need to look for a deceased Newton male who might have married her, or whether she is the Newton and just used the Mrs to indicate she was widowed and using her maiden name. I can direct you to the deeds online fairly easily if you'd like to look at them. Please feel free to e-mail me at Highwatercowboy@gmail.com if you'd like. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: james_norred Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry for my delay in responding but it has been a busy week. I have been going over the research papers on the Newton's by my great aunt and updating my tree over the past two evenings. I am trying to see where the connection to the Newton's of the area might be to your Mrs Martha Ann Newton. I feel the Newton's in question are of my linage but I don't think it was of the line of Samuel Martin which is mine. At least not that I can see for the moment. Samuel was the son of Rev. Thomas Newton and had 6 brothers and 3 sisters. There was possibly one more boy but I haven't confirmed it yet. I am still looking into where they all migrated to. Interestingly enough Samuel and family migrated to Arkansas from Mississippi prior to coming to Texas and lived in Fannin and Grayson counties before settling in Burnet county. So there is the possible Arkansas connection for your Martha Ann. Perhaps Samuel went to Arkansas to meet with family members there, don't know as of yet. Anyhow I have time over the weekend to do some digging and in the mean time if you could get me more information on the following. You mentioned a 1870 Bastrop census record. What information does it contain? Is she shown living alone or with a family? What is her calculated age shown as? The J W and Mattie Newton and the land. There was a Joseph Pickens Newton but I haven't found a "J W" Newton that matches yet. The Mattie person rings a bell in away. I find it odd that this J W Newton would have spent his wife's inheritance as almost all of the Newtons were ministers or tied to a church in some way. On the other hand you find black sheep in every family line. As to the "Mrs" on the marriage record, that is interesting as I haven't seen that before. The Mrs would indicate she was still married but could indicate widowed. Does it show her age? More to follow ... James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: widavis6 Surnames: Clapp Burnet Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1908.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Emile Fascinated by your 2005 posting on Samuel S. Clapp and his daughter Lauretta marrying William E. Burnet. I just came across this in a September 8, 1874 issue of the Atlanta Weekly Constitution. The Lauretta in question is the notorious Loreta Janeta Velasquez, author of THE WOMAN IN BATTLE, a highly fictionalized account of her supposedly posing as a man in CSA uniform in the Civil War. I am trying to track down reliable info on her early life. Was there, in fact, a Samuel S. Clapp with a daughter named Lauretta or something like that? She in 1874 says she was born in Havana, but the family moved to Mississippi, then Texas, and her father died in 1863 at Fort Hamilton, NY, as a Union POW. Would love to learn if there is anything at all to this. WCDavis Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HighwaterCowboy Surnames: Newton, McDonald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello James Thanks so much for responding. If I didn't have the marriage license for 10 May 1867 that specifically names her "Mrs" I would think we were on to something. There is no mistaking the Mrs for Miss. Surely the preacher wouldn't have made a mistaken assumption. Could she have been married young, gone back to her maiden name? Bertram is not that far as the crow flies from Florence in Williamson County where the McDonald's owned land. There were some Newtons that owned 2 lots in Florence as well, a Mattie and John W, I believe, but there is no record of them living there and this would've been about 1876 when husband J W gave the lots to his wife Mattie to repay her for spending her inheritance. I'll have to go back and look at that deed as it mentioned who she inherited from. Her age is about right, but there was a census record that indicated she was born in Arkansas. Our Martha would've been with the McDonald's from 1867 until about 1874 when Thomas died and from that! point we have nothing on her or much of the rest of the McDonald's. Don't know whether she went back to her family or just what. Let me know what you think Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: james_norred Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2786.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It is possible she is but, the Martha Ann Newton I have records on was a Newton and daughter of Samuel Martin (1792-1880) & Elinor Baskin Pickens Newton 1797-1888). Martha Ann Newton b. 19 June 1831 St. Clair, Alabama d. 16 Dec 1916 Burnet, Burnet County, Texas (buried Bear Creek, Bertram) On the 1860 to 1910 census she is shown living with her mother and father in Precinct 3, Burnet, Texas and the 1850 has her in District 2, Tippah, Mississippi. My great aunt Lena May Norred (1892=1969) writes that she was single and after her father's death she lived with her sister, Elizabeth Catherine Newton Nevitt (1836-1911) and husband till their deaths. She also writes that little is known of her early life and education. She is buried in Bear Creek. Not much of a match so far. The Newton's came to Burnet county abt 1855 first land deed 1857. My linage is via my g grandmother Nellie May Newton (Norred, Burns-1869-1957) who was the daughter of John Calvin (1824-1884) & Mary Josephine Murphy Newton (1838-1930) and brother of Martha Ann Newton. John Calvin Newton's land was about 5 miles North of Bertram, Texas and next to the Arnett's. By the way my gg grandfather was James Oliver Norred (1832-1908) who was the stepson of Cullen Curlee Arnett (1812-1865). My great grandfather George Cullen Norred (1866-1897) married Nellie May Newton 16 Sept 1891. After his death in 1897 she married Baxter Euan Burns. The Norred's and Coon's (James Oliver married Amanda Margaret Coon, 1842-1929) lived in Hairston Creek at the time. There is another possibility though. John Calvin's older brother, James Donald Newton (1822-1884) had a farm - ranch 7 miles North of Elgin, Bastrop County, Texas. He married Mary Emmaline Stokes and they had 10 children, 3 sons and seven daughters. None of the children or age seems to match though. I have looked through all issues of Samuel Martin Newton and nothing really matches but, if anything interest you let me know and I can send you an invite to my tree. My great aunt Lena did quite a bit of research on the Newton's as did her mother Nellie May Newton and grandmother, Mary. I have most of her notes - records and am starting to get it all in my tree. I just started my own last year and have been working on my mother on her account with her for several years. I am transferring everything little by little to my tree. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.