As told by "the black widow" herself. 16th annual Angelina College Genealogy Conference Lufkin, Texas Thursday, Friday and Saturday, July 19, 20, & 21, 2012 For speaker bios, lecture titles and schedule, & registration form Visit us at http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy/genealogy.html If you have questions, please contact me .. ~ Trevia Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas 713-864-6862 Association of Professional Genealogists - http://www.apgen.org/ Angelina College Genealogy Conference - http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy/genealogy.html Harris County Historical Commission (1995-) - http://www.historicalcommission.hctx.net/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wmbadenpwl Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2781.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Janet: Very thoughtful answer, and thank you. My understanding is the family lived in Burnet, which in 1855 would still have been called Hamilton. I learned about the event from my late uncle, who heard about it from his own grandfather, Champion Travis Traylor, the son of the deceased. I got the actual date from another relative who is a genealogist and have seen the date in Internet genealogies as well. The murder was apparently unsolved as it was blamed on Comanches -- or on ruffians who tried to make it look like a Comanche act. I have checked the Austin papers for this through the Texas history portal, but found no mention. Will check the San Saba list too. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: craingen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2781.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In 1855 it would have been extremely rare for him to have been buried more than a few miles from where he died. Your best actions would be to contact the San Saba mailing list. And their Genweb online. If there were newspapers at the time this would have been reported most likely. See if you can find out if there is newspaper microfilm available. You may be able to order it and read it at your own library. Burnet as well should be searched for this as a resident's death would have been reported. Where exactly in Burnet County did this family live? How did you learn of this? Is it family oral history or did it make any publications? Do you know the murderer's name? Was he arrested? Counties had records of such things so you might learn something at the Court House about this. Although this is very early history for this region. Janet Lewis Crain Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I disagree that the burial would have taken place only a few miles from where the murder occurred. The trip from San Saba back to Burnet would have been made as long as the victim was identified. There are no Traylors in the 1854 or 1855 Burnet tax records which indicates that they did not own property at this time. However, sometimes property owners disappear from the lists for two or three years and reappear again. The tax records are online at familysearch.org. I have both volumes of the _Burnet County History_ digitized and a search turned up 'Traylor' only once. William Roy Munn m. Jennie E. McDaniel, d/o 'Dan (George Traylor) McDaniel.' The McDaniel family was buried at Shady Grove. I know that cemetery well and the markers are indexed in _Burnet County Cemeteries_; no Traylors were found in a digital search of that book. Shady Grove burials include William Roy, Jennie E., Alta Royena, and Sam Pollard Munn; and Dan, Sophronia, and Edward Bruce McDaniel.. See Darrell Debo, editor, _Burnet County History_ (Burnet County Historical Commission, 1979), p. 2: 219 and Burnet County Historical Commission & Burnet County Heritage Society, _Burnet County Cemetery Records, 1852-1982_, (Austin: Eakin, 1988), p. 114. I also checked the tax records of San Saba County for 1854 (the first complete year) and 1855. No Traylors were recorded. A check of Williamson County for 1854 proved negative also. If the Munn and McDaniel families are of the same family group, then I would also look at the possibility that Champion lived in the Bertram area. Williamson County papers did cover news for that part of the county also, however, I do not believe you are going to find any extant newspapers outside of Austin. I I checked the Texas Newspaper Collection at the Dolph Briscoe Center for American History at The University of Texas at Austin and found no extant paper for that time frame in Waco. You may want to check the San Antonio papers, however, that might be stretching it. A murder in San Saba would not be likely to be considered news. It would depend on whether they needed to fill space. Bertram had a very active newspaper at one time. The microfilm can be purchased from the Briscoe Center or the library in Waco. (They make a duplicate copy for you.) This might be helpful if you had family stay in the area in later years. My suggestion is to use your local Family History Center and look at the court records that have been filmed for Burnet County. If the murder took place in San Saba, then only a probate would exist and even that is a low probability without landownership. Checking the San Saba, and then Burnet County, court records for criminal charges may be helpful. However, San Saba court records were not filmed. They are publicly accessible if you can go there or have someone else go in your stead. The FHL microfilm for the Burnet County court case papers, boxes A-L, 1854-1861 is 1671779, item 2. The probate records in Burnet for 1854-1876 are on FHL 978761. A reasonably exhaustive search would include the court and probate records of both counties. Try to remember that oral history gets muddled as it is passed down. There is normally some truth in all oral tradition, the trick is to pan for it and be patient. It is possible that you are in the correct area, but the wrong county. Do you have evidence besides oral history that indicates your counties are correct? If not, please consider looking at surrounding counties for evidence of the family I hope this is helpful. Good luck in your search. Rondina _______________________ Rondina P. Muncy Ancestral Analysis 4008 Linden Avenue Fort Worth, Texas 76107 682.224.6584 rondina.muncy@gmail.com www.ancestralanalysis.com On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:28 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com < gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: wmbadenpwl > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2781.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Janet: Very thoughtful answer, and thank you. My understanding is the > family lived in Burnet, which in 1855 would still have been called > Hamilton. I learned about the event from my late uncle, who heard about it > from his own grandfather, Champion Travis Traylor, the son of the deceased. > I got the actual date from another relative who is a genealogist and have > seen the date in Internet genealogies as well. > The murder was apparently unsolved as it was blamed on Comanches -- or on > ruffians who tried to make it look like a Comanche act. I have checked the > Austin papers for this through the Texas history portal, but found no > mention. > Will check the San Saba list too. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXBURNET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wmbadenpwl Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2781/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My GGG grandfather, Champion Travis Traylor, born 1821 Jasper, GA, was living with his family in Burnet when he was murdered in or near San Saba Aug. 10, 1855. I would love to locate a grave, but fear he died so early in the county's history that he may have been buried alone, or in a grave no longer marked. Appreciate hearing from anyone with so much as a sliver of information. My GG grandfather, Champion Travis Traylor, was born to his widowed mother on Dec. 24, 1855, in Burnet. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AmzyHibler Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1779.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Can you tell me a little about what is in the book - I have family that lived in the Burnet County area. Please e-mail me at aehibler@chevron.com. Thank You Amzy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Angelina College Genealogy Conference - Lufkin, Angelina County, Texas. July 19, 20, & 21, 2012 (Thursday - Saturday) Come to beautiful East Texas for our 16th year! We invite you come and meet with old fiends and also to make new ones as you hone your skills at genealogical research! With registration now in full swing, we invite those interested to visit us at http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy/genealogy.html There will be two optional all-day sessions on Thursday, July 19, followed on Friday & Saturday, July 20 & 21, with a wide range of topics, presented by a cadre of nine well-known speakers. This year's Conference will also include the opportunity to bring your problem to a professional genealogist. Members of the Lone Star Chapter, Association of Professional Genealogists, will be on hand to give you suggestions. More about this later when their schedule is complete. Meals and a three-ring-binder syllabus is included in the registration fee. Vendors of books and services will be on hand. Pre-registration ensures a syllabus packet will be ready for you upon arrival. For questions concerning lodging, classes, etc., please contact me and I'll respond quickly. ~ Trevia Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas 713.864-6862 Coordinator, Angelina College Genealogy Conference http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy/genealogy.html Member APG http://www.apgen.org/ SSA. http://southwestarchivists.org/ TSHA. http://www.tshaonline.org/ Harris County Historical Commission (1995 - ) http://www.historicalcommission.hctx.net/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vanessabouse Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/1779.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wondering if you still have a few copies of the book. My grandfather says it is the best history of his family that he has read. But we can not find his copy. If you do could you please contact me, my email is vanessabouse. Thank you for your time, Vanessa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have photos of my Low ancestors made by these same photographers in the 1880s. They were taken in Burnet and Marble Falls. The clothing styles are the same as your photos. Bill Crider On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Janet Crain <ljcrain2@pgrb.com> wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of a photography company named E.B. Wimberly in > Marble > Falls or a photography company named > > McClure & Gormley, > Traveling Photographers, > Main Gallery, 131 Poydras Street > New Orleans, LA > > Which, apparently came to Marble Falls or a nearby area? I have two photos > I > am trying to date for my cousin. > > The first has the McClure & Gormley info on the back. The other one has > E.B. > Wimberly Marble Falls TX on the bottom. We believe these photos are of her > Dawson ancestors. > > You can view them here and make them larger: > > http://community.webshots.com/album/582586942abkTss > > Any thoughts about the period the clothing represents is welcome also. > > Janet Lewis Crain > > My surnames: Allen, Austin, Baldwin, Brantley, Bressie, Bracey, Caudill, > Chaudoin/Shadden, Davenport, Eyrich, Falkner, Fender, , Finter, , Gambill, > , Happas/Hoppers, , Harralson, , Harris, , Hart, , Hays, Hill, Holloway, > Holmes, Hoppers, Hoppes, Jackson, Kern, Landreth, Leach, , Lewis, Long, > Marshall, Mattox, McCoy, Nall, Penn, Pruitt, Sanders, Sizemore, Stamper, > Stinnett, Thompson, Vickers, Waggoner, Wagoner, Wells, White, Wiggs, Wilks, > Young > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4913 - Release Date: 04/03/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXBURNET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Has anyone ever heard of a photography company named E.B. Wimberly in Marble Falls or a photography company named McClure & Gormley, Traveling Photographers, Main Gallery, 131 Poydras Street New Orleans, LA Which, apparently came to Marble Falls or a nearby area? I have two photos I am trying to date for my cousin. The first has the McClure & Gormley info on the back. The other one has E.B. Wimberly Marble Falls TX on the bottom. We believe these photos are of her Dawson ancestors. You can view them here and make them larger: http://community.webshots.com/album/582586942abkTss Any thoughts about the period the clothing represents is welcome also. Janet Lewis Crain My surnames: Allen, Austin, Baldwin, Brantley, Bressie, Bracey, Caudill, Chaudoin/Shadden, Davenport, Eyrich, Falkner, Fender, , Finter, , Gambill, , Happas/Hoppers, , Harralson, , Harris, , Hart, , Hays, Hill, Holloway, Holmes, Hoppers, Hoppes, Jackson, Kern, Landreth, Leach, , Lewis, Long, Marshall, Mattox, McCoy, Nall, Penn, Pruitt, Sanders, Sizemore, Stamper, Stinnett, Thompson, Vickers, Waggoner, Wagoner, Wells, White, Wiggs, Wilks, Young ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4913 - Release Date: 04/03/12

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisLewis44 Surnames: Bebout, Collier, Altman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/72.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Pearl River Bebout 1879 / 1927 that married Albert Clay Collier 1884 / 1947. Both born in Burnet Co., and died in Lampasas Co. Buried in a Smith Ceme. I have 3 children listed. Albesrt C. Collier's mother was an Altman, which is the family I am researching. Thanks for checking. Doris Lewis; dglewis846@gmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: james_norred Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/128.308.318.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "William James Jemeyson born 1838 in Mississippi" Where in Mississippi? I only ask because in my on research I have hit a wall in Leake and Madison counties. The name Jemeyson rings a bell from my search of cemetery records in Leake county. One other question would be do you know the path they took to get to Williamson County and why they went there? I ask because my gg grandfather James Oliver Norred migrated first to Williamson County as per 1850 census and then to Burnet County as per 1860 census with his stepfather, Cullen Curlee Arnett. Knowing which way they came and why would answer some questions I have. Thanks for y'alls time and hope I am not to off topic here. You never know unless you ask right? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: delayna_1 Surnames: Jamison, Jimmerson, Jemeyson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/128.308.318/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Samuel Jameson born January 1859 in Iowa was Williamson County Texas in 1900. My great grandfather was William James Jemeyson born 1838 in Mississippi and was in Williamson County Texas in 1860? Do you think there is any relation? Thanks DC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Grady Phinney, Contact me at Muddcatman@sbcglobal.net I have quite a few pictures of George W. Phinney & wife. Keith Reed 1101 Crowley Rd. Arlington, Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <TXBURNET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [TXBURNET] Dodgen/Phinney > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: dondomingo1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/506.523.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Dont know if anybody is still persuing this thread, since it was dated > 1999. > > G.W. Phinney is my Great(x3) Grandfather from my paternal side. I have the > same reference to his death in Texas by Lightning, his head stone, which > confirms his birth and death dates. However thats about all I can come up > with. > > > However he is where my search has come to an end. Is there any references > I could be pointed to that might give light to him having siblings, or his > parents? > > > Grady T Phinney > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXBURNET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Grady Phinney, Contact me at this address: Muddcatman@sbcglobal.net I have a small picture of George W. Phinney. I also have a few pictures of his wife's family. I also have quite a bit of information on the Jennings family. (we both descend through the Jennings line). I would be glad to share. Contact me, Keith Reed Arlington, Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <TXBURNET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [TXBURNET] Dodgen/Phinney > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: dondomingo1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/506.523.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Dont know if anybody is still persuing this thread, since it was dated > 1999. > > G.W. Phinney is my Great(x3) Grandfather from my paternal side. I have the > same reference to his death in Texas by Lightning, his head stone, which > confirms his birth and death dates. However thats about all I can come up > with. > > > However he is where my search has come to an end. Is there any references > I could be pointed to that might give light to him having siblings, or his > parents? > > > Grady T Phinney > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXBURNET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dondomingo1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/506.523.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dont know if anybody is still persuing this thread, since it was dated 1999. G.W. Phinney is my Great(x3) Grandfather from my paternal side. I have the same reference to his death in Texas by Lightning, his head stone, which confirms his birth and death dates. However thats about all I can come up with. However he is where my search has come to an end. Is there any references I could be pointed to that might give light to him having siblings, or his parents? Grady T Phinney Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garylynm70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2780.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for information and offer to forward any hints that might help in my search. The Sampsons were my great grandparents. Your story about Ike Coon was fascinating. There are many such stories to been heard/discovered and passed along. I am a former news reporter, so this search is taking on a life of its own. Have a blessed journey. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

What would be very beneficial is to post the photo somewhere the group can review it ~ such as photo bucket or somewhere similar. Post the link here & others can use their knowledge to help you. And, your best guess of time frame would also be helpful. Old photos can really be fun! Joy On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Steve Nichols <nichsl@haxtuntel.net> wrote: > I have found an old family picture that was apparently taken by the > Wilcox studio in Burnet, probably over a hundred years ago. The young > man in the photo, either Thomas Ranck Churchill or William Wood > Churchill, is wearing a military "style" uniform. > > Can you tell me anything about that studio? Are there old files of > pictures saved somewhere? Was there a group of some type that wore > military style uniforms; maybe a band or fire department? > > Thank you for your help. > > Steve Nichols > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXBURNET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have found an old family picture that was apparently taken by the Wilcox studio in Burnet, probably over a hundred years ago. The young man in the photo, either Thomas Ranck Churchill or William Wood Churchill, is wearing a military "style" uniform. Can you tell me anything about that studio? Are there old files of pictures saved somewhere? Was there a group of some type that wore military style uniforms; maybe a band or fire department? Thank you for your help. Steve Nichols

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: james_norred Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.burnet/2780.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know if this helps or not but I took a few days to do a little research to see. I am thinking it might narrow down your search a bit to an area anyhow. My gg grandmother was Margaret Amanda Coon Norred. She married James Oliver Norred in 1866 on Hairston Creek near the old Hairston Creek Community. Now the Coons lived next door to the Norreds and John Adams Coon deeded some property to "the coon family salve" sometime after 1853. That is to say the Coons arrived in Burnet County on or before 1850 and purchased land 17 Dec 1853. Some of this is said to have been slave land or he later deeded it to some slaves, I don't know for fact. There is one tattered, type written note that mentions "At one time there was a colored family who were descendants of the Coon family salve". A lot of this is verbal between family relations and cousins whom I have talked with about it. Now I also found his name from a tribute to George Cullen Arnett by a friend at his death. George married the youngest of the Coon children, Francis Coon, My gg grandmothers youngest sister and the friend writes of how George on a visit to Burnet in the middle 18! 90's went to visit the old Coon slave "Ike Coon" who was ill and living in his hut on the old ranch deeded to him. he had tried to get the old man to move to Lubbock and live with him and his wife but ole Ike Coon wanted to stay where he was. They say he and John Coon were raised together in South Carolina I believe it was and Ike was the son of one of Johns Fathers slaves. I don't have any records of him ever marring but you know how records are on slaves. This would have been somewhere between the Hairston Creek Community and Oatmeal. I believe John Adams Coon deeded some property for a school in Hairston Creek. I hope this is of some help and I will see what else I can dig up as I research the Coon, Norred, Hibler, Newton, Biggs, and Debo relations to name a few I have in Burnet and surrounding counties. Feel free to contact me at any time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.