The following message was sent to me and below it you can see my response. Don't misunderstand, my intentions are not to undermine the hard work of those that contributed time and effort to complete the cemetery record books. In fact, I think everyone that helped, in all aspects, should get credit for their long hours of dedication to genealogy and history of Hamilton County. My ancestors have only been in the Hamilton area since 1880 and I know many of yours have been there even longer. Whatever records we can dig up should be for anyone interested or involved in the county. from: Betty Cole Wienke (in the following you'll notice that only Pittman and Hengst show credit for the Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, TX) > Ric, I checked "Volume 2, Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, TX. Pittman > and Hengst, published 1996, Honey Creek Cemetery, pages 769-795. Directions: > From Hamilton's square take Hwy. 281 north about 10 miles to Olin, turn left > on F.M. 219. Travel 3 miles north on F.M. 219, turn right on Co. Rd. 120. > Travel 2 miles on Co. Rd, cemetery is on the right. Open gate and go about > 1/2 mile to cemetery. Cemetery is barely visible from road." > > Ric, if you will send me your mailing address, I will scan and land mail the > pages of Honey Creek Cemetery to you. Then the following came from Carlian Pittman: > > Ric: The book Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, Texas is > > copywrighted. Betty Weinke is not allowed to copy the pages from the > > book on Honey Creek Cemetery and send them to you. > > Carlian Massingill Pittman > > President > > Hamilton County Genealogy Scoiety Then my response: > Carlian, > > I know she can't copy the book by scanning the information or using a > xerox machine to copy it (because of the copyright), but she can read it > and tell me what she read by sending it either e-mail or snail mail. > > Ric So..... all this boils down to one thing. Should anyone and everyone have access to the cemetery records of the county? AND, if someone were to buy the book, do they then have the right to put the information on the internet? After all, they bought the book. It then belongs to them. Let me know what ya'll think. I already know what some of you are going to say but I want to hear from more of you. Perhaps some of you that actually did the work on the books but have never gotten credit. Fred (Ric) Gordon Williamson Co., Texas By the way folks. Just so you know I do have SOME interest in Hamilton, though small, I went to school there but dropped out of high school in 1962 and joined the Navy. I haven't always been very smart. :^)

I think if your family is buried there you should surely be able to post, put on a website or whatever you want even if you find them in someone's copywrited cemetery book. It just may get down to an issue of those who write these books for profit, could be violating some kind of privacy or otherwise blurp when writing about YOUR family. Scanning all pages and posting isn't a good idea, in respect for someone's work but typing information from the book about your or someone elses' family, should be okay. Hope this makes sense. I don't mean any disrespect to the great people who write the books, just have some concerns about those who are only interested in profit. Becky York My LEE family came from Brown Co. (Cherokee LEE's) ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ On Indian Mtn. near Coeur d'Alene ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ My Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks The Url of York ~ for all York lines http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: [TXBROWN] Cemetery Records > The following message was sent to me and below it you can see my > response. Don't misunderstand, my intentions are not to undermine the > hard work of those that contributed time and effort to complete the > cemetery record books. In fact, I think everyone that helped, in all > aspects, should get credit for their long hours of dedication to > genealogy and history of Hamilton County. My ancestors have only been in > the Hamilton area since 1880 and I know many of yours have been there > even longer. Whatever records we can dig up should be for anyone > interested or involved in the county. > > > from: Betty Cole Wienke > (in the following you'll notice that only Pittman and Hengst show > credit for the Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, TX) > > > Ric, I checked "Volume 2, Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, TX. Pittman > > and Hengst, published 1996, Honey Creek Cemetery, pages 769-795. Directions: > > From Hamilton's square take Hwy. 281 north about 10 miles to Olin, turn left > > on F.M. 219. Travel 3 miles north on F.M. 219, turn right on Co. Rd. 120. > > Travel 2 miles on Co. Rd, cemetery is on the right. Open gate and go about > > 1/2 mile to cemetery. Cemetery is barely visible from road." > > > > Ric, if you will send me your mailing address, I will scan and land mail the > > pages of Honey Creek Cemetery to you. > > Then the following came from Carlian Pittman: > > > > Ric: The book Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, Texas is > > > copywrighted. Betty Weinke is not allowed to copy the pages from the > > > book on Honey Creek Cemetery and send them to you. > > > Carlian Massingill Pittman > > > President > > > Hamilton County Genealogy Scoiety > > Then my response: > > > Carlian, > > > > I know she can't copy the book by scanning the information or using a > > xerox machine to copy it (because of the copyright), but she can read it > > and tell me what she read by sending it either e-mail or snail mail. > > > > Ric > > So..... all this boils down to one thing. Should anyone and everyone > have access to the cemetery records of the county? AND, if someone were > to buy the book, do they then have the right to put the information on > the internet? After all, they bought the book. It then belongs to them. > > Let me know what ya'll think. I already know what some of you are going > to say but I want to hear from more of you. Perhaps some of you that > actually did the work on the books but have never gotten credit. > > Fred (Ric) Gordon > Williamson Co., Texas > > By the way folks. Just so you know I do have SOME interest in Hamilton, > though small, I went to school there but dropped out of high school in > 1962 and joined the Navy. I haven't always been very smart. :^)

It does as long as you don't copy more than 10% of the book. Becky York wrote: > I think if your family is buried there you should surely be able to post, > put on a website or whatever you want even if you find them in someone's > copywrited cemetery book. It just may get down to an issue of those who > write these books for profit, could be violating some kind of privacy or > otherwise blurp when writing about YOUR family. Scanning all pages and > posting isn't a good idea, in respect for someone's work but typing > information from the book about your or someone elses' family, should be > okay. > > Hope this makes sense. I don't mean any disrespect to the great people who > write the books, just have some concerns about those who are only interested > in profit. > > Becky York > My LEE family came from Brown Co. (Cherokee LEE's) > ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > On Indian Mtn. near Coeur d'Alene > ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > My Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks > The Url of York ~ for all York lines > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks > ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ric" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:56 PM > Subject: [TXBROWN] Cemetery Records > > > The following message was sent to me and below it you can see my > > response. Don't misunderstand, my intentions are not to undermine the > > hard work of those that contributed time and effort to complete the > > cemetery record books. In fact, I think everyone that helped, in all > > aspects, should get credit for their long hours of dedication to > > genealogy and history of Hamilton County. My ancestors have only been in > > the Hamilton area since 1880 and I know many of yours have been there > > even longer. Whatever records we can dig up should be for anyone > > interested or involved in the county. > > > > > > from: Betty Cole Wienke > > (in the following you'll notice that only Pittman and Hengst show > > credit for the Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, TX) > > > > > Ric, I checked "Volume 2, Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, TX. > Pittman > > > and Hengst, published 1996, Honey Creek Cemetery, pages 769-795. > Directions: > > > From Hamilton's square take Hwy. 281 north about 10 miles to Olin, turn > left > > > on F.M. 219. Travel 3 miles north on F.M. 219, turn right on Co. Rd. > 120. > > > Travel 2 miles on Co. Rd, cemetery is on the right. Open gate and go > about > > > 1/2 mile to cemetery. Cemetery is barely visible from road." > > > > > > Ric, if you will send me your mailing address, I will scan and land mail > the > > > pages of Honey Creek Cemetery to you. > > > > Then the following came from Carlian Pittman: > > > > > > Ric: The book Cemetery Records of Hamilton County, Texas is > > > > copywrighted. Betty Weinke is not allowed to copy the pages from the > > > > book on Honey Creek Cemetery and send them to you. > > > > Carlian Massingill Pittman > > > > President > > > > Hamilton County Genealogy Scoiety > > > > Then my response: > > > > > Carlian, > > > > > > I know she can't copy the book by scanning the information or using a > > > xerox machine to copy it (because of the copyright), but she can read it > > > and tell me what she read by sending it either e-mail or snail mail. > > > > > > Ric > > > > So..... all this boils down to one thing. Should anyone and everyone > > have access to the cemetery records of the county? AND, if someone were > > to buy the book, do they then have the right to put the information on > > the internet? After all, they bought the book. It then belongs to them. > > > > Let me know what ya'll think. I already know what some of you are going > > to say but I want to hear from more of you. Perhaps some of you that > > actually did the work on the books but have never gotten credit. > > > > Fred (Ric) Gordon > > Williamson Co., Texas > > > > By the way folks. Just so you know I do have SOME interest in Hamilton, > > though small, I went to school there but dropped out of high school in > > 1962 and joined the Navy. I haven't always been very smart. :^) > > ==== TXBROWN Mailing List ==== > ********BROWN COUNTY, TEXAS GenWeb******** > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbrown/ > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog