Mary Urban - THANK YOU! ... for your kindly trying to help. I spent a lot of the weekend researching and some other kind folks shared information. I now have: 1900 Census Red River County, TX Precinct 7 Part 2 Families 151-245 180/181 Holder William Head WM Aug. 1859 40 Widow TN AL TN Farmer (William Henry) Walter Son WM Dec. 1886 13 Single TX TN TX Farm Laborer (John Walter) Leola Dau. WF Feb. 1888 12 Single TX TN TX (Francis Leola) Albert Son WM Jan. 1890 10 Single TX TN TX Farm Laborer (William Albert) Joe Son WM Sept. 1891 8 Single TX TN TX (Joseph H.) Roy Son WM Mar. 1893 7 Single TX TN TX (Roy A.) Robert Son WM Oct. 1895 4 Single TX TN TX (Robert Lee) Lewis Son WM Mar. 1897 3 Single TX TN TX (Louis Sidney) William's wife was Julia Alice O'BANNON. She was born 26 Feb 1868. They were married 21 Jan 1886 and she died 2 Dec 1898 at 30 years old. Having seven children in less than 14 years may have attributed to her early death. Some of this HOLDER family was also across the river in McCurtain Co., OK. Larry Pool Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marylu@urbans.us Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:34 PM To: HOLDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOLDER] Re: HOLDERs in Red River Co., TX This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Caj.2ACIB/1091.1 Message Board Post: This is not my Holder family, but you can find this family in the 1900 Red River Co. TX census (ED 113, p 11A/273, house #180) listing the widowed father William and 7 children, including Leola b Feb 1888 TX and Lewis b Mar 1897 TX. William's state of birth is TN, and I suspect he was married there, as his wife was also a native of TN. It looks like they probably married after the 1880 census, so with her not appearing in any census, you will have to rely on some other source to identify her. An obituary of William or any of the children might name her. Good luck.