Dear Friends, I have some old letters, pictures and newspaper clippings that are getting brittle. Can anyone help me with a solution to preserve them. I am very concerned that I will lose the information if I can't do something soon. I realize there are plastic sleeves, but is there anything I can treat them with? Thank you. Judy Davis "Laura New daughter of Edward Spencer New" was my great grandmother.

Hi, Judy These web pages are very good: http://www.cyndislist.com/preservation.htm http://lcweb.loc.gov/preserv/pubscare.html http://www.lib.cmich.edu/clarke/pres.htm#PI Hope this helps............ Suzy ~ What we do in life echoes in eternity ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <JDavis2762@cs.com> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: [TXBOSQUE] I need some help with old documents Dear Friends, I have some old letters, pictures and newspaper clippings that are getting brittle. Can anyone help me with a solution to preserve them. I am very concerned that I will lose the information if I can't do something soon. I realize there are plastic sleeves, but is there anything I can treat them with? Thank you. Judy Davis "Laura New daughter of Edward Spencer New" was my great grandmother.

Here's what they are offering. It's really just taking the 172 files and without even looking at the data like the other online places are doing. Mine are edited, in the right columns, indexed and in alphabetical order. Why would I try and get out 11 CD's rather than just a few. You get what you pay for. From Anna: click on Snailsearch to see what it offers. http://www.adoptionsearching.com/genarc/ Hang on gang, it'll be there soon. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: Bwingo@aol.com To: TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [TXBOSQUE] TX vitals searches I am forwarding this in case you want to post it. Thank you, Betty Wingo thanks for your interest! these are the records that were previously available on the TX Dept of Health website - i sure missed them so when a friend told me that he had downloaded them and created a database and search engine, i was so excited. you can search by surname, county, date, given name. i wanted to share this. we are doing this venture on a small scale so please spread the word to your cousins and research buddies! here's the info: TX VITAL RECORDS CD · Included on one CD with search capabilities are indexes: Births (1926 –1998), deaths (1964 – 1998), marriages (1966 – 1997), divorces (1968 – 1997) o Easy to install · Also available on CD: o TX update through 2000 (death, marriage, divorce) (1 CD) o CA & OH (1 CD) birth records o KY (1 CD) vital records (death, marriage, divorce) o Digital images of selected years of TX birth indexes · Cost - $15 per CD, 3 for $35, 4 for $45 – includes S&H · For every 10 orders mentioning same genealogy society, will donate set of CDs to local genealogy library · For more information contact Anna Price <A HREF="mailto:shortyhouston2@yahoo.com">shortyhouston2@yahoo.com</A> · To order - send payment with list of CDs ordered to: Anna Price 11215 Research Blvd #1044 Austin, TX 78759 ==== TXBOSQUE Mailing List ==== Search the mail list archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

--- JDavis2762@cs.com wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I have some old letters, pictures and newspaper > clippings that are getting > brittle. I've not worked with old documents and paper in a long time but there are certain steps to do and even the plastic sleeves have to be special. Most of the paper especially in the area of books are so high in acid that they will and can deteriorate in a very short time. No longer will books be kept to pass down on to our descendants since this new treatment of paper. Rootsweb has a special list for especially what you are needing to know. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com

My only problem with this is if it's legal or not. ???? The records were free when they were on-line. I'm simply thinking aloud.

I am forwarding this in case you want to post it. Thank you, Betty Wingo thanks for your interest! these are the records that were previously available on the TX Dept of Health website - i sure missed them so when a friend told me that he had downloaded them and created a database and search engine, i was so excited. you can search by surname, county, date, given name. i wanted to share this. we are doing this venture on a small scale so please spread the word to your cousins and research buddies! here's the info:   TX VITAL RECORDS CD ·         Included on one CD with search capabilities are indexes: Births (1926 –1998), deaths (1964 – 1998), marriages (1966 – 1997), divorces (1968 – 1997) o        Easy to install ·         Also available on CD: o        TX update through 2000 (death, marriage, divorce) (1 CD) o        CA & OH (1 CD) birth records o        KY (1 CD) vital records (death, marriage, divorce) o        Digital images of selected years of TX birth indexes ·         Cost - $15 per CD, 3 for $35, 4 for $45 – includes S&H ·         For every 10 orders mentioning same genealogy society, will donate set of CDs to local genealogy library ·         For more information contact Anna Price <A HREF="mailto:shortyhouston2@yahoo.com">shortyhouston2@yahoo.com</A> ·         To order - send payment with list of CDs ordered to: Anna Price 11215 Research Blvd #1044                         Austin, TX 78759    

You are most welcome. Reecie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzy" <edsu@camalott.com> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Re: Robertson, Gary, Panola Co > I notice that this page also has many GARY's, which were also a big part of Bosque > history............. > > Thanx, Reecie! > > Suzy > > ~ What we do in life echoes in eternity ~ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reecie Stanley" <rstanley@ktsnet.com> > To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:05 AM > Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Robertsons > > > I just saw a site on the Panola Co. Rootsweb that you Robertson searchers > might want to see. It mentioned the Bosque County Robertsons. > http://www.ladytexian.com/TXPanola/bios/family/garyww.htm > It did not have my Robertsons, but may have yours. > Reecie > > > > > > > > ==== TXBOSQUE Mailing List ==== > A smooth sea never made a successful sailor. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I notice that this page also has many GARY's, which were also a big part of Bosque history............. Thanx, Reecie! Suzy ~ What we do in life echoes in eternity ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reecie Stanley" <rstanley@ktsnet.com> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:05 AM Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Robertsons I just saw a site on the Panola Co. Rootsweb that you Robertson searchers might want to see. It mentioned the Bosque County Robertsons. http://www.ladytexian.com/TXPanola/bios/family/garyww.htm It did not have my Robertsons, but may have yours. Reecie

Yes, I loved those very much. I got it from the horses mouth. It is because of the Privacy Act, TX & CA care about keeping our records safe. I know, I know, that was the neatest place to go, but if it were easy as that, we would have a lot more people digging in genealogy and messing up the trail and dirtying the water so to speak for us hard core researchers. We are true hunters of the lost ancestors, and we know what hard work it is.

I just copies this from the Texas Dept. of Health page. They're the ones who keep the vital records. Due to the possibility of the indexes being used to fraudulently obtain another's identity or to reveal the identities of those involved in an adoption, the birth and death indexes have been permanently removed. All questions should be directed to Debra F. Owens, Chief and State Registrar.

Rootsweb.com had the Births, deaths, marriages, and divorce vital records indexes of both Texas and California on line for several months and then took them off. I believe that Ancestry.com may have had something to do with this. Data Bases on Rootsweb have traditionally been free on the internet. Ancestry on the other hand requires you to join them and pay for what they have on line. Ancestry.com apparently became the owners of Rootsweb.com shortly before the vital indexes were removed and I have heard that Ancestry will sell CD of the vitals. For years the Texas State Archives and Library have had the birth and death records on mico-film which are available to the public at all major Libraries throught Texas. The Thexas State Archives has these indexes in hard back volume opened to researched at the Archives. The Clayton Library in Houston also has these same books. Marriage records have always been opened to the public at the county courthouses where the marriage licenses were issued. Some county clerks also will allow researched at the courthouses to look through the birth and death indexes as well as the actual certificates. The divorce records were something new as far as I know and I believe if anything other then Ancestry greed had any thing to do with rootsweb removal of the vitals was complaint about the divorce records from indiviuals not wanting this information to be so readily available. Yes every genealogist and family researcher should hound Rootsweb and Ancestry to open these vital data bases back up. Apparently the State of Texas sold them the originals so it must be Rootsweb and Ancestry and not the States of Texas and California that has removed them. It roots web and Ancestry will not put these data bases back on line, everyone who believes they should should cancell their membership with Ancestry and/or Rootsweb, boycot there products, and all aspects of their sites including their message boards and mailing list and let them know why you are doing this. Money speaks. James R. Rasco

The reason that the Texas and California vital records were taken off was due to the changed policies of THOSE states. It had nothing to do with the free vs. subscription and your other rumor is inaccurate also. Texans and Californians who are unhappy about lack of access to their public records should VOTE accordingly. --Myra ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jrrasco@aol.com> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 09, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [TXBOSQUE] TX vitals searches > Rootsweb.com had the Births, deaths, marriages, and divorce vital records > indexes of both Texas and California on line for several months and then took > them off. I believe that Ancestry.com may have had something to do with this. > Data Bases on Rootsweb have traditionally been free on the internet. Ancestry > on the other hand requires you to join them and pay for what they have on > line. Ancestry.com apparently became the owners of Rootsweb.com shortly > before the vital indexes were removed and I have heard that Ancestry will > sell CD of the vitals. > >

Does anyone have more info. about John Andrew Thomas. I would like a know the names of his and my gg-grandmother ((Sarah Cutbirth Mabray Thomas) children. She and my gg-grandfather, James H. Mabray, had two children. Thanks, Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Smith" <sandys@surfbest.net> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [TXBOSQUE] Robertsons > Hi, Reecie, > Thanks for posting the info. about Robertsons. I am a Robertson of Bosque > County descendant and found this info. very interesting. Noticed it also > lists a man by the name of John Andrew Thomas whose third wife was my > gg-grandmother, Sarah Cutbirth Mabray Thomas. Small world. > Thank you very much! > Sandy Smith > Searching: ROBERTSON, ODLE, CUTBIRTH, MABRAY, THOMAS, HENDERSON, VICKREY, > RAILSBACK, WHEAT, CONNOLLY ---- All pioneer families of Bosque County, > Texas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reecie Stanley" <rstanley@ktsnet.com> > To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:05 AM > Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Robertsons > > > > I just saw a site on the Panola Co. Rootsweb that you Robertson searchers > > might want to see. It mentioned the Bosque County Robertsons. > > http://www.ladytexian.com/TXPanola/bios/family/garyww.htm > > It did not have my Robertsons, but may have yours. > > Reecie > > > > > > > > ==== TXBOSQUE Mailing List ==== > > After the storm...A rainbow! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== TXBOSQUE Mailing List ==== > REMEMBER PLEASE--WE DO NOT VIOLATE COPYRIGHT LAWS > If something has the © emblem, You may quote a few lines but.... > Be sure to credit the Author and/or Publisher > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi, Reecie, Thanks for posting the info. about Robertsons. I am a Robertson of Bosque County descendant and found this info. very interesting. Noticed it also lists a man by the name of John Andrew Thomas whose third wife was my gg-grandmother, Sarah Cutbirth Mabray Thomas. Small world. Thank you very much! Sandy Smith Searching: ROBERTSON, ODLE, CUTBIRTH, MABRAY, THOMAS, HENDERSON, VICKREY, RAILSBACK, WHEAT, CONNOLLY ---- All pioneer families of Bosque County, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reecie Stanley" <rstanley@ktsnet.com> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:05 AM Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Robertsons > I just saw a site on the Panola Co. Rootsweb that you Robertson searchers > might want to see. It mentioned the Bosque County Robertsons. > http://www.ladytexian.com/TXPanola/bios/family/garyww.htm > It did not have my Robertsons, but may have yours. > Reecie > > > > ==== TXBOSQUE Mailing List ==== > After the storm...A rainbow! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The reason I heard was to prevent identity theft. I don't know how you could do it and I never heard of a single case that did do it. Kerry in Texas . The vital records people in Texas took the records off, because of some hassles they were having regarding Texas adoption laws. At least that is the impression I got.

Hi, dislocated Texan! Me, too. The vital records people in Texas took the records off, because of some hassles they were having regarding Texas adoption laws. At least that is the impression I got.

I just saw a site on the Panola Co. Rootsweb that you Robertson searchers might want to see. It mentioned the Bosque County Robertsons. http://www.ladytexian.com/TXPanola/bios/family/garyww.htm It did not have my Robertsons, but may have yours. Reecie

I hate to ask this but I'm going to anyway, Has any one decided to petition the state of Texas and Rootsweb for taking the records off? I mean okay take off Birth records from say 50 years back but that leaves a whole lot to search. I am getting births records on my husbands side from all over the country and marriage records also off the web. Why are Tx and Rootsweb being so odd? I for one don't see how either could be damaging, now I would have a problem if the SS dept started handing out records but what are birthdates and marriage dates going to mess with. Sorry about the soap box, but when you are a dislocated Texan half way around the world the net is almost the only way to search. I have info on my family but can't do anything with it until I can get home and start searching from there. I hope everyone has a good holiday, Kat From: "Suzy" <edsu@camalott.com> Reply-To: TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com To: TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXBOSQUE] TX vitals searches Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:47:01 -0600 Thanx, Peggy! I have used the TX Archives search and, yes, it is very useful for vitals in many counties.... I think most of the ones I found for Bosque Co, were from the 1930's...... I just tried out the VitalSearch-CA.com search....I managed to get a bit of info.....I think it is just a teaser, don't you?? I will play with it some more..... Yes, you are correct, re the Rootsweb TX Death search page....I forgot to mention that.....I sure miss the Birth Records page, don't you?! We really appreciate your help, Peggy..... Suzy LOADER, LEE, MARTIN, FERGUSON, KNIGHT, PORTER, LUNDBERG, PERRY, GILBREATH, WORTHAM, PYLANT, ROBERTSON, GOYNE, COLLIER, PARKER, GANDY ~ What we do in life echoes in eternity ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy C. Wilson" <MawPeggy@ectisp.net> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Rootsweb TX vitals searches http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txsearch.html#county There are some birth and marriage records still online...you might need to enter a county to find what you seek. plus some are lucky enough to get this site to work for them... I struggle with it and occasionally actually get some info http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/tx/tx_/txbirths.htm -- Suzy wrote: If we are talking about the same Rootsweb search sites (TX birth, marriage), they have been offline for quite awhile... This page is still operational... http://vitals.rootsweb.com/tx/death/search.cgi -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Honnoll http://www.geocities.com/honnoll_honnell/index.html Winton http://www.geocities.com/mawpeggy1946/index.html ==== TXBOSQUE Mailing List ==== This is the day that the Lord hath made! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Glad to have something to share. -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Honnoll http://www.geocities.com/honnoll_honnell/index.html Winton http://www.geocities.com/mawpeggy1946/index.html

Thanx, Peggy! I have used the TX Archives search and, yes, it is very useful for vitals in many counties.... I think most of the ones I found for Bosque Co, were from the 1930's...... I just tried out the VitalSearch-CA.com search....I managed to get a bit of info.....I think it is just a teaser, don't you?? I will play with it some more..... Yes, you are correct, re the Rootsweb TX Death search page....I forgot to mention that.....I sure miss the Birth Records page, don't you?! We really appreciate your help, Peggy..... Suzy LOADER, LEE, MARTIN, FERGUSON, KNIGHT, PORTER, LUNDBERG, PERRY, GILBREATH, WORTHAM, PYLANT, ROBERTSON, GOYNE, COLLIER, PARKER, GANDY ~ What we do in life echoes in eternity ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy C. Wilson" <MawPeggy@ectisp.net> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Rootsweb TX vitals searches http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txsearch.html#county There are some birth and marriage records still online...you might need to enter a county to find what you seek. plus some are lucky enough to get this site to work for them... I struggle with it and occasionally actually get some info http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/tx/tx_/txbirths.htm -- Suzy wrote: If we are talking about the same Rootsweb search sites (TX birth, marriage), they have been offline for quite awhile... This page is still operational... http://vitals.rootsweb.com/tx/death/search.cgi -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Honnoll http://www.geocities.com/honnoll_honnell/index.html Winton http://www.geocities.com/mawpeggy1946/index.html