Friends and Researchers, Ancestry is NOT charging to access the Family Trees information. This remains exactly as it was all along. ALL they are doing is ADDING an extra option for subscribers to get an extra "tool" to research those trees & it will coordinate information. Non one HAS to add the extra option. PLEASE read the letter I received yesterday from my question to Ancestry on this topic. It really should clear this up & we can move on. They are NOT denying ANYone free access to your information. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda McNiel To: TXBOSQUE-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 2:16 PM Subject: Ancestry NOT charging to view trees I wrote to Ancestry about the rumor circulating that all Family Trees were soon to be in a paid subscription database & received today this answer from Ancestry. They explain that the new paid deal is only for an optional searching tool. Please read the following carefully: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ancestry.com/MyFamily.com Support" <rightnow@ancestry.com> To: "Linda McNiel" <McNiel2@prodigy.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: Re: What is the truth about the statement circulating on all the Rootsweb message... (KMM5186226C0KM) Dear Linda, We appreciate your message. We regret any confusion this matter may have caused. User-submitted family trees are free and will remain free through the Ancestry World Tree and the RootsWeb WorldConnect databases. The One World Tree service is simply an optional tool available for your research. A subscription to the One World Tree service is not required in order for you to submit a file or for other researchers to search and view the files you submit at no charge through the Ancestry World Tree and the RootsWeb WorldConnect databases. The One World Tree subscription is an advanced search tool that gathers family trees and family history records for millions of people, analyzes the birth, death and marriage data and then displays the most probable matches for your ancestors. This service makes it easier for you to find and verify information pertaining to your family tree. If there is anything else we can assist you with, please let us know. Tiffany Customer Solutions Ancestry.com "Connecting and Strengthening Families through the World Wide Web" Ancestry.com Technical Support: <http://ancestry.custhelp.com>

In a message dated 5/5/2004 8:24:22 PM Central Daylight Time, AtlsShrggd@aol.com writes: > I am grateful that my research will live on long after I am gone and will > be available to future generations. Mine, too. I, at the moment, have a 300 page book ready to be printed for future generations and to be donated to any library in the country that wants it. AND IT'S DOCUMENTED. Much of the information in those trees on Ancestry is not correct. You have no idea how much is not correct. >>I only hope that some selfish, narrow-minded person out there is not hoarding information that might be of help to me, my extended family, or our future generations.<< If there are, it's your fault. Are you doing YOUR research? I have shared every bit of information I have with as many people as have asked for it and many who have not asked for it. I have never hoarded. But then I have never published to a website that charges either. I give and give and give without publishing to a website. Noone has ever accused me of being narrow minded. There is not a narrow minded bone in my body. >>So sorry to hear that you feel the way you do; I hope we are not related.<< If we were, you'd know it, because I would give you every bit of information [documented] that I have gleaned for the past ten years. And in that ten years, I have never run across anybody's bitter as you, either. Well, maybe one. Sorry to hear that you feel the way you do. You're losing out on a lot. You see, I am not withholding information by not publishing to a website. Sincerely, Brownie MacKie Surnames: Barry, Bonham, Bomar, Burrow, Bush, Carter, Claybrooke/Claybrook, Coombe, Crawford, Cosby, Dabney, Doswell, Ellis, Farrar, Ferguson, Gould, Greer, Griffith, House, Hutchinson, Ing, McGary, McKisick,Murphree, Nantz, North,Patton, Peyton, Tinney, Vance, Willingham, Wingfield, Wright, Younger...to name a few.

In a message dated 5/5/2004 2:23:36 PM Central Daylight Time, AtlsShrggd@aol.com writes: > Capitalism is nothing to be ashamed of. I don't think any of these sites > "owes" me any information and I'm grateful for the free services available. I am not concerned with anybody's making an honest dollar; you're right that capitalism is nothing to be ashamed of. However, PLAGIARISM is. It's dishonest and against the law. And taking somebody else's research and selling it in any form is plagiarism. >>-What is Plagiarism? Plagiarism is the improper use, or failure to attribute, another person's writing or ideas (intellectual property). It can be as subtle as the inadvertent neglect to include quotes or references when citing another source or as blatantly unethical as knowingly copying an entire paper verbatim and claiming it as your own work. From Plagiarism.org. <<<

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I think it's fair. The income generated by those willing to pay for some of the premium services covers much of the costs associated (compilation, server-space, bandwidth, etc.) for providing a wealth of free information as well. Just MHO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, in my opinion, Ancestry should pay for the hours and hours of research those of us have done .... but instead they offered their site as a location that family records could be submitted and presented to be shared FREELY with other researchers. I dare say not many would have contributed to their location knowing access to their work was to be limited to being sold to enhance the "coffers" of this group that now owns a large portion of the genealogy sites. That's what no competition will produce. If it was a free and fair society, then Ancestry should not be allowed to publish records submitted under that premise without expressed permission of the submitter. But instead it appears they will do so unless the submitter happens to hear about their plans and opts out. Looks like another behind the back maneuver to me, also. I do agree, none of these sites owe me anything. That is, nothing but the truth when the site is established with the premise that freely submitted family records will be accessible to the public freely. I have no objections to them "making a buck", just not on what I have paid for through time, effort, and, yes, money. Well, that's my two-bits worth... ;-) ... as my Father once told me, "those bought lessons you don't soon forget". My guess is that when this plan gets the attention it deserves, lots of folks won't forget it. Have a great day, and happy hunting to all! Billie Bennett ----- Original Message ----- From: <AtlsShrggd@aol.com> To: <TXBOSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: [TXBOSQUE] Re: TXBOSQUE-D Digest V04 #18 > > they are just trying to do what many > > professionals have done over the years, make a buck on a hobby that has for > > many many years not generated a lot of income for anyone except a few. > > Is this fair? Perhaps I'm missing something here. > > Yes, I think it's fair. The income generated by those willing to pay for some of the premium services covers much of the costs associated (compilation, server-space, bandwidth, etc.) for providing a wealth of free information as well. If these folks aren't making enough money to stay in business and on-line then all the free information disappears right along with the "paid-for" stuff when they have to go out of business or sell-off. > > Capitalism is nothing to be ashamed of. I don't think any of these sites "owes" me any information and I'm grateful for the free services available. I subscribe to the ones that are of value to me. > > Just MHO. > > > ==== TXBOSQUE Mailing List ==== > Search the mail list archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

> they are just trying to do what many > professionals have done over the years, make a buck on a hobby that has for > many many years not generated a lot of income for anyone except a few. Is this fair? Perhaps I'm missing something here. Yes, I think it's fair. The income generated by those willing to pay for some of the premium services covers much of the costs associated (compilation, server-space, bandwidth, etc.) for providing a wealth of free information as well. If these folks aren't making enough money to stay in business and on-line then all the free information disappears right along with the "paid-for" stuff when they have to go out of business or sell-off. Capitalism is nothing to be ashamed of. I don't think any of these sites "owes" me any information and I'm grateful for the free services available. I subscribe to the ones that are of value to me. Just MHO.

In a message dated 5/4/2004 7:05:00 PM Central Daylight Time, davensjohnston@sprintmail.com writes: > they are just trying to do what many > professionals have done over the years, make a buck on a hobby that has for > many many years not generated a lot of income for anyone except a few. Is this fair? Perhaps I'm missing something here.

Thank you Myra for your clarification; I knew that since the Ancestry took over (acquired) rootsweb that WorldConnect and The Ancestry trees were merged. Ancestry is owned by MyFamily.com., by the way. I like the WorldConnect tree because it allows so much flexibility and control by the submitter, not to mention, it is a super place for a retrievable BACKUP of ones dbase. I won't pull mine, they are just trying to do what many professionals have done over the years, make a buck on a hobby that has for many many years not generated a lot of income for anyone except a few. Dave Johnston _____ From: TXBOSQUE-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:TXBOSQUE-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 4:04 PM To: TXBOSQUE-D@rootsweb.com Subject: TXBOSQUE-D Digest V04 #17

Below is a response to the message that was posted yesterday about Ancestry's One World Tree. I don't have any "trees" on this site, so I guess I don't have to worry one or another. There is always The Family Group Sheet Project, maintained by several, which I am on. This is a USGenWeb Special Project, it is free, & the submitter is the owner of the information. You can use your submissions elsewhere, all we do is put the info online http://www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/ Bettie <>< ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Vanderpool Gormley" <myravgormley@earthlink.net> To: <OKMUSKOG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [OKMUSKOG] Ancestry to begin charging for One World Tree | Let's set the record straight, Family Trees you submit to RootsWeb's | WorldConnect and/or Ancestry World Tree continue to be free for anyone to | access and search just as they always have been. NOTHING has changed as to | your use of WorldConnect/AWT's combined database. | | The new program that has recently come along is One World Tree (OWT), which | is a new advanced subscription search feature ( it's a tool) that matches | data found in the free trees and some of the pay databases and census | records found at Ancestry, and stitches it into a finished product to cut | out the work of searching and matching data for the subscriber. What the | subscriber to OWT is paying for is the convenience of having the searching | and matching done for him....not for accessing or searching the free family | trees housed on their site. | | Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG

In a message dated 5/3/2004 10:40:23 PM Central Daylight Time, nana321@earthlink.net writes: > If you'd prefer that your information not be sold, there is a link below > which will take you to a set of instructions on > opting out by deleting your tree. I, for one, urge all who have freely published their work to delete your tree asap. I realized years ago that it was the most cunning form of plagiarism to take other peoples' hard work and charge for it, so fortunately, I never published on any of the programs. Sincerely, Brownie MacKie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sypert, Arnold, Mumford Classification: Bible Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FkB.2ACI/968 Message Board Post: From the family Bible of Melya Sypert Blalock "Jim Blalock husband of Melya Blalock died March 20, 1965 at Meridian"

If you have submitted a family tree to Ancestry.com's OneWorldTree site, you need to be aware of a change about to be implemented by Ancestry. Family Trees uploaded to the OneWorldTree site, which have been free heretofore, will be moved into a subscription data base. After approximately May 21st this data base will no longer be accessible for free. Ancestry will be begin offering OneWorldTree Preview at $49.95 for 14 months for access to these donated trees. If you'd prefer that your information not be sold, there is a link below which will take you to a set of instructions on opting out by deleting your tree. Go first here: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/trees/owt/ When you arrive at the page - look for the link toward the top "What's a preview?" Read the information and then click on "View our checklist" (which appears on #3). On the page is a statement that says "If for any reason you do not want your tree to be part of the new OneWorldTree service, you must delete it from the Ancestry World Tree database by tentatively May 21, 2004." Click on the link "Deleting a tree you submitted" The resulting page gives instructions on how to delete your tree. Feel free to pass this along to other lists. As far as I know, this does NOT affect WorldConnect: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ Bettie <><

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sypert, Arnold, Mumford Classification: Bible Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FkB.2ACI/967 Message Board Post: Transcribed from Family Bible that belonged to Meyla Sypert Blalock "Thomas Sypert died Feb 21 1961 at Houston Burial in Meridian Texas." Newspaper article that was stuck in Bible CARD OF THANKS The family of Thomas Sypert Sr. wished to expresss our sincere thanks and appreciation to all our friends and neighbors for the food and flowers at the time of his death. We especially thank Meridian Chapter 398, Order of the Eastern Star and the Euzelian Sunday School class of the First Baptist Church. - Thomas Sypert Jr. and family of Houston Mrs. Rosa Nell Hoesa of Houston John B. Sypert and family of Dallas Mrs. G. A. Dockery of Carter, Okla Mrs. Jim Blalock of Meridian

Seeking information on DORCAS REEDER, mother of ALVIN YOUNG (A. Y. ) REEDER. I have information say in she died after being thrown from a wagon. Would like to have an obituary if possible. I believe she is a sister to my ggfather HIRAM BLAIR OF JOHNSON COUNTY, TX. Any information would be helpful. Thank you, Laverne Blair Copeland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Linch, Stephens/Stevens Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FkB.2ACI/965.2.2.1 Message Board Post: I found Anna's parents and Joe and Anna's family on the 1900 census in Randolph County, Alabama.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FkB.2ACI/965.2.2 Message Board Post: Bruce, I have used the names you gave me as Anna Linch Stephens parents. I can find nothing about them. Can you tell me where I might find the information? Thank you, Joy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rice, Hayes, Stidham Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FkB.2ACI/966 Message Board Post: Charles, just saw ur, post of Hayes& Samuel Rice. Not sure but, my g-grandfather was a Samuel Rice. His wife was Margeret Hayes Rice. Kentucky, Missouri, Ar., and my grandfather and wife Isaac Rice and Emma Stidham went onto New Mexico and Oklahoma. Have no sure thing but caught my eye! Do, you know any other names in the family your looking for? Diane

Am looking for his descendants. His sister was Ruby Nichols Cutbirth who wrote Ed Nichols Rode a Horse Connie Ogle Bischoff

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FkB.2ACI/965.3.1 Message Board Post: Thank you, and yes to the .jpg files. If they happen to be sent back, the reason is I have a generous person sending pictures as .jpg files. I will be online for a little longer this pm. I am so happy at the generosity of the people who have sent help this evening. Thank you again, Joy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stephens Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FkB.2ACI/965.3 Message Board Post: The 1910 census for Bosque Co. shows a Joe Stephens and wife, Anna, with a daughter, Zelma, age 3. There are other children listed: Leola, age 16; Jim, age 14; Herman, age 11; Pearl, age 8. Every member of the family except Zelma was born in Alabama. I didn't have any luck finding them in Alabama in 1900. The family, minus Joe and Pearl, are also on the 1920 census for Bosque Co. If you can get jpg files as attachments, I can send you copies of these census records.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FkB.2ACI/965.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks to another Genie Angel. Joy