Hi Hope Brother Loch doesn't mind me forwarding the following information. Hope one of you finds the information interesting. Please note Brother Loch states that the Roselawn is #3. Brother Loch states that the records are in good shape at San Fernando #2. However, I have been told two different times during the years in their office that: there was a fire in the gardeners building where they kept their records. Their records are not complete for the early days if there is not a tombstone. Don't know which is the case, but they can't tell me where some graves are located in that cemetery. And for those of you keeping a list -- don't think I saw the listings for the cemetery located for the priests and brothers at St. Mary's University. Would it be called the Society of Mary Cemetery, (SM?) Mary Lee Sloan From: "Edward Loch" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FW: Check out Bexar County Cemetary List Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:31:15 -0500 I expect that Teresa has answered you, but in case she has not, I will try to fill you in. The old Campo Santo was begun in 1800 when the rotting bodies at San Fernando were infecting the water supply - the irrigation ditch ran behind the church, now the cathedral. At that time, that space was out of town. on the south side of Houston street the protestants were buried, now Milam park. As the hosptial expanded we moved the bodies to San Fernando #1. The records for where people are buried there have been lost. A few years ago a group, Los Bejarenos walked the entire cemetery(begun about 1870) and noted all the tombstones that still exist and made an index. This is all that there is for #1. San Fernando #2 was started in 1922 and the records for that are in good shape. #3 used to be Roselawn and the archdiocese bought it when space was becoming scarce in #2. This was bought in the 1980's and is directly south of #2. The Catholic Church did not lose any cemeteries. There were and are only San Fernando, St. Mary's, St. Joseph, St. Peter Claver, and St. Michael's. The Hispanic-Mediterranean people went to San Fernando, the Irish-English speaking to St. Mary's, the German to St. Joseph, the Polish- slavic to St. Michael and the Black people to St. Peter Claver. The people from around the missions went to their cemeteries. There was no French section. Religious orders had certain parts of San Fernando as well as the priests were buried together. There is a Catholic cemetery in Helotes not far from the present church. Some other rural parishes have cemeteries also like Elmendorf and Losoya. There were a few small chapels under what is now Calaveras lake. The bodies were moved to Elmendorf.The library is perhaps the best source since we have had a cemetery project going for several years and a computer dedicated especially to this. Mr. Frank Faulkner is the librarian. I think Teresa sent you information on how to contact the library. Yours sincerely, Bro. Ed Loch, S.M. From: "MaryLee or Charlie Sloan" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: RE: FW: Check out Bexar County Cemetary List Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:52:22 -0600 Dear Brother Loch I have not been able to find John Bourgeois at the France Garnes or Carnes CATHOLIC cemetery anywhere -- Family has been looking for more than 30 years. Members of the family have asked all over during the 30 years. John Bourgeois is the only one we have lost -- I was wondering if you knew what year the San Fernando Cemetery # 1 and the #2 were started. Perhaps a section of #1 was for the French. I've driven and looked an alot of the ground, but never a concentrated effort in #1. Also thought that some of the City cemeteries were the French one -- however, it would have been blessed ground since the Department of Health called it the France Catholic Cemetery. I have photographed 8 of the cemeteries where relatives are buried and never found him. I will continue to look. THANK YOU for finding the church record. I will post queries at different sites including the Bexar County site on Rootsweb. Perhaps someday someone will know something. None of the Bourgeois families know where John was buried. We had a cemetery on Culebra road -- know who was there and where they were moved. It was never referred to as a Catholic cemetery. There are Catholics and Lutherans buried at Zion Lutheran -- however, it wasn't referred to as either Catholic or Lutheran until more modern times -- many Bourgeois buried there, but not John Bourgeois. Some Bourgeois were buried at private cemeteries around Helotes -- they were known or moved -- But again the cemetery was never referred to as Catholic Cemetery. I wonder at times if the cemetery was near the old Mexican cemetery under Houston street by Santa Rosa hospital. "Campos Santos" I am really stressed -- it was one thing to lose a relative, but quite another for the Catholic Church to lose a cemetery. It would be difficult for me to find the correct person to talk to, but wonder if the Department of Health kept track of early cemeteries? Thanks for your help on my ancestor Mary Lee Gussen Sloan From: "Edward Loch" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: FW: Check out Bexar County Cemetary List Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:21:11 -0500 Subject: Check out Bexar County Cemetary List >>>>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:35:03 EDT >>>> >>>>The new URL for San Antonio Genealogical and Historical Society's >>>>website >>>>is: _www.rootsweb.com/~txsaghs2/index.htm_ >>>>(http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsaghs2/index.htm) By clicking below, you >>>>can get directly to the listing of Bexar >>>>County cemeteries, which are now divided into three parts by alphabet. >>>> >>>> >>>>_Click here: Bexar County Cemetary List_ >>>>(http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsaghs2/bexarcem.htm) >>>> >>>>Theresa >>> >> >