I've been thinking all this over and have come to the conclusion that a lot of the problem has been that a woman(Sarah) was doing the posting. Hummmm, I doubt very seriously if a man would have been told to shut up. And that IS what happened. I hope the administrator is reading the mail now. I have received a lot of private mail supporting Sarah and I want her back on the list. People want to know what is going on. And I don't appreciate being told the same thing. I know how to research genealogy and where to look and how to look. I have been giving others directions and doing lookups for quite a while. In other words, I know what I am doing. And I do it very well, thank you. And I am tired of being nice to rude people. Sarah was FLAMED plain and simple. G. Winters part time genie angel