----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Gallo To: Sarah Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:35 PM Subject: Re: I am tired of the emails ARE WE ALL TIRED OF THE E-MAILS? Who was it that said it only takes a second to delete? I don't have the time to delete 40 e-mails. ENOUGH! Already!!! Someone please tell me where to go to get off of this list. I can't find it. Thank you, Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: I am tired of the emails > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donald Kelley > To: 'Sarah' > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:16 PM > Subject: RE: You are jamming my inbox. > > > I am tired of the emails > > > Donald A. Kelley > Kelley's Computer Services > 3833 W. Carol Ann Way > Phoenix, Arizona 85053 > 602-359-8500 > 602-926-0351--Fax > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Kelley To: 'Sarah' Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Take me off your email list. NO!! I will turn you in to the Spam people, as well as to the RootsWeb contact department. The newsgroup is being abused with this crap. Donald A. Kelley Kelley's Computer Services 3833 W. Carol Ann Way Phoenix, Arizona 85053 602-359-8500 602-926-0351--Fax ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Sarah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:16 PM To: BEXAR; [email protected] Subject: Take me off your email list. No. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Kelley [email protected] To: 'Sarah' Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:01 PM Subject: RE: James' answer... Take me off your email list. Donald A. Kelley Kelley's Computer Services 3833 W. Carol Ann Way Phoenix, Arizona 85053 602-359-8500 602-926-0351--Fax -----Original Message----- From: Sarah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: James' answer...

----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Kelley To: 'Sarah' Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: RE: You are jamming my inbox. I am tired of the emails Donald A. Kelley Kelley's Computer Services 3833 W. Carol Ann Way Phoenix, Arizona 85053 602-359-8500 602-926-0351--Fax

Bob, I'm not the Rootsweb computer, I can't remove them from the List, so I thought it would be best to direct them to the proper location. Leaving them in my mailbox does not stop my emails to the List from appearing in their mailbox. Merely trying to accommodate their requests. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Juch To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:20 PM Subject: RE: Take me off your email list. Sarah, OK, enough's enough! Why the heck are you forwarding private emails like this to the list? PLEASE STOP! Bob Juch -----Original Message----- From: Sarah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Take me off your email list. No. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Kelley [email protected] To: 'Sarah' Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:01 PM Subject: RE: James' answer... Take me off your email list. Donald A. Kelley Kelley's Computer Services 3833 W. Carol Ann Way Phoenix, Arizona 85053 602-359-8500 602-926-0351--Fax -----Original Message----- From: Sarah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: James' answer... ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

No. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Kelley [email protected] To: 'Sarah' Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:01 PM Subject: RE: James' answer... Take me off your email list. Donald A. Kelley Kelley's Computer Services 3833 W. Carol Ann Way Phoenix, Arizona 85053 602-359-8500 602-926-0351--Fax -----Original Message----- From: Sarah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: James' answer...

----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Gallo [email protected] To: Sarah Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: Re: email to Bexar County Historical Commission Please stop with the cemetery e-mails. I am unable to help. You are jamming my inbox. Thank you, Laurie

BRAVO!!!! I was thinking that I very seldom get anything on this list and I have a lot of "roots" down that direction. I always read what does come in and think it is wonderful what is being done. We live way up in Washington State and do not get to Texas often. I have been holding my breath hoping to find one of my family on the list, to give me one more clue to my past. (I used to watch the lists of Mafia arrests in Sicily hoping I would NOT see our name:) In the last two years I have met FIVE e-mail cousins and it has meant more to me than I could ever say. I come from the generation where my family scattered and somehow they didn't want to talk about each other much less get together. This seems to be the rule instead of the exception. Now, because of a couple of accidental postings on one web site or another, I have corresponded with cousins in Colorado, New York and three in Texas. Thank you to all of you who take the time to help those of us who have been on a long, often un-fruitful, journey to find our past. Blessings!!!! Jeri Alessandro James Bawden, Port Angeles, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "g.winters" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: You ticked me off > Hi, list members. > I am just totally amazed by all this. People who are smart enough to > subscribe to > the mailing list and don't know how to unsubscribe. Go Back to > Rootsweb.com, find this mailing list and unsubscribe. Duhhhhhhhhh. > > I subscribe to well more than forty mailing lists and I am not having a > problem with any of them. And I can answer questions on them. Do > lookups/use the chat rooms/belong to about six or seven surname groups. > Wow, from the looks of it, I must be superwoman. > > Sarah is out there doing something very necessary. There are a lot of > people on other mailing lists doing the same thing. SAVING OUR > PAST!!!!!!!! > SAVING THE NEGLECTED CEMETERIES. How would you feel if you walked up to > you > grandparents grave and found someone doing some of the things that are > going > on in this cemetery????????????? > > I will also say that this is one of the quietest mailing lists that I > do > subscribe to. Now quit your griping and let us do what we have to do. If > you don't want to then unsubscribe for a few weeks. Hopefully this will > be > taken care of by then. I really hope > Sarah doesn't have to spend the next year fighting like this. It should > be > obvious to all how upset she has been. > > Tried to warn everyone the other night to quit ticking me off. > > G. Winters > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

Bob... here is how you unsubscribe... but if you want to contact the list manager and have the conduct on this list checked by Rootsweb, send an email to the Listmaster requesting that TXBEXAR List be checked by the Bexar Co., TX list administrator to determine if the messages are appropriate for this genealogy list. [email protected] But if you want to unsubscribe use the following instructions 1. How to unsubscribe. Send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe and no additional text. Bob Juch <[email protected]> wrote:Sarah, OK, enough's enough! Why the heck are you forwarding private emails like this to the list? PLEASE STOP! Bob Juch -----Original Message----- From: Sarah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Take me off your email list. No. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Kelley [email protected] To: 'Sarah' Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:01 PM Subject: RE: James' answer... Take me off your email list. Donald A. Kelley Kelley's Computer Services 3833 W. Carol Ann Way Phoenix, Arizona 85053 602-359-8500 602-926-0351--Fax -----Original Message----- From: Sarah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: James' answer... ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Great! I went by the cemetery this afternoon, and the officer there was delighted with the news. So were the Meusebachs. ;-) You know, maybe we could have two work days. I think cleaning up around Dr. Herff's plot would be a nice thing to do for Papa. He was a physician too, and knew Dr. Herff's son. Do you think it would be okay with Don if we had an informal work day on Father's Day for those of us who don't have our fathers, and aren't fathers ourselves? It would make the day less of a bummer for us. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: James A. Rodriguez To: Sarah Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: Re: Accommodations for volunteers Hi Sarah- Yes, I think there would be at least a few people who would be willing to accomodate out-of-towners. If you get a lot of these volunteers, let me know and we'll see what we can do. If they do want to stay in a hotel downtown for sightseeing reasons, we might be able to negotiate a good price based on what they're coming here to do. Haven't heard from Don Lively yet, but don't know how often he checks his email... Thanks, --James On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Sarah wrote: > James, if we have more out of town volunteers, could you also ask the > Mason wives and the deMolay mothers if they wouldn't mind letting > someone sleep on their couch? No reason for them to bear the expense > of a hotel room. > > Anyone on the Bexar or German-Texan List have spare couches? > > Thanks, > Sarah

Charles Robert SOHN ,76,of 1308 Pleasantion Rd. died at a local hospital Jan 16th Mr.Sohn had been a member of the Baptist Church and a member of the B. OF L.E. Suviors Annie Pearl Sohn San Antonio. Sons Charles J.,Fred A.,Teddie W.Eddie W. Sohn all of San Antonio ;daughter Mrs. T.L.Leonard ,Laredo,Texas a brother William Sohn,Little Rock Ark. also 11 grandchildren Dr. Clyde Childers oficating,interment Roselawn Memorial Park.

Mrs. Anna Pearl Sohn ,69 of 3718 Devon,died in a local hospital Oct 16,1960 Resident San Antonio 40 years ,member Riverside Baptist Church ,survivers ;sons Charles J,Fred Addison, Teddie W. Eddie W.Sohn one daughter Mrs. T.J.Leonard Laredo ,Texas 12 grandchildren ;brother William Samuel McLain ,Oklahoma City,Funeral services 10 a.m. Thursday Oct 20 1960.Akers Chapel with Dr. Clyde Childers officiating ,internment Roselawn Memorial Park.

James, if we have more out of town volunteers, could you also ask the Mason wives and the deMolay mothers if they wouldn't mind letting someone sleep on their couch? No reason for them to bear the expense of a hotel room. Anyone on the Bexar or German-Texan List have spare couches? Thanks, Sarah

Good grief! From New York? I imagine it will be the weekend after Father's Day. Do you have a place to stay? I have a guest room. If you smoke you have to go outside. Oh, I have 2 cats. No other issues.... Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: letter from Scottish Rite Temple... Hi Sarah, I think what you are doing is so great! I want to come to San Antonio if I can when the clean up is scheduled. Please let me know as much ahead of time as possible. Thanks. Margaret Ross Long Island, NY

Winters family ! I served with a Col.Winters and the Winters family dealt in leather in Stock Yard City.They made saddles and the likes on Exchange Ave and Agnew in OKC.

Sarah, The tears are flowing up here in north central Okla. I am so happy that you were able to get some positive responses about this. You have worked so hard on this. I am so proud of you. G. Winters ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:21 PM Subject: Thank you TX-Bexar > Without your encouragement yesterday I would never have made up the flyers and gone down there. Thank you. You made this happen as much as KSAT, and Debra and Tom and I did handing out flyers. > > Sarah > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Without your encouragement yesterday I would never have made up the flyers and gone down there. Thank you. You made this happen as much as KSAT, and Debra and Tom and I did handing out flyers. Sarah

----- Original Message ----- From: James A. Rodriguez To: Sarah Cc: [email protected] ; Russ LaineVETS ; McCammon Family ; John A. Stovall ; Paul Mattoon ; Rayedene ; battersby ; Troy8thCavGroves ; Kathy ; BEXAR ; George H. Ballentine ; Dan Sieczkowski ; GERMAN-TEXAN ; Bob Battaglia ; Jessie Degollado ; Gary Whitfield ; Albert Jamison ; Rudy KrischVETS ; stovall.office ; VirginiaNicholas.CHC ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:59 PM Subject: Re: letter from Scottish Rite Temple... Hello Sarah (and everybody else)- OK, you've convinced me (for what it's worth). I don't know Don Lively personally, but I will contact him to see if we can get permission to have a clean-up day with some Masonic and youth group volunteers. Since the cemetery is private property and I have no association with Alamo Lodge or the Alamo Masonic Cemetery Assocation (which, to the best of my knowledge, is the actual owner of the property), other than knowing a few of their members, I do not feel comfortable doing any kind of work out there without their knowledge or permission. If we can have the assistance of your corps of volunteers, many of whom may have some actual knowledge of what needs to be done, maybe we can make some progress. I don't think we can get anything done for this weekend (too soon to put the word out to a maximum number of people), but perhaps the following weekend would be possible. One point to make absolutely clear: I do not and cannot speak for "the Masons". I can only do my best to encourage people to volunteer for this project and I am hopeful that we can get a good response. I'll try to clear up some confusion about the organization of Freemasonry. The basic building block of our fraternity are the Masonic Lodges (like Alamo Lodge and the other 26 Lodges in Bexar County). When a man joins a Lodge, he progresses through three "degrees" and becomes a Master Mason. This Master Mason then has a choice: stay where he is and enjoy the fraternity through his Masonic Lodge, or expand his horizons and join one of the other organizations which limit their membership to Master Masons. There are several of these including the York Rite, Scottish Rite, Shrine and Grotto. So, as you can probably guess, all Scottish Rite Masons are Masons, but not all Masons are Scottish Rite Masons. Each Lodge has its own elected officers, as do the Scottish Rite, York Rite, etc, and is responsible for its own activities. The San Antonio Scottish Rite Library & Museum, Inc., (which owns the Scottish Rite Cathedral) rents space to several Masonic Lodges to hold meetings. The Rainbows and DeMolays also meet in the building, though we do not charge them any rent for their meetings, parties and dances (which I hope you remember as fondly as I do). Who did you request the "official list of burials" from? I can ask also, but I'm not sure that they would necessarily give it to me if they would not give it to you. I would like a copy of the flyer you passed out, if possible. From your remarks, I hope that you are not equating one Lodge's difficulties in dealing with this issue with a general lack of sympathy from "the Masons." I would imagine that 90% of the Masons in Bexar County have no knowledge of the Alamo Masonic Cemetery and would probably be more familiar with the Masonic burial sections at the Sunset and Mission cemeteries. Maybe we can start changing that perspective. Thanks again, --James *********** Thanks James. Convincing you is worth a LOT!! Assuming the City is taking over, and the Masons hand over the deed and the $150,000 SOON, I think we should leave the major tree trimming and the restoration up to the experts at the Parks Department, but we should have the Master Gardeners and Battersby there to make sure we stay away from gravestones and good trees. Maybe Virginia could convince somebody from the Parks Department to show up. And of course KSAT will be there with bells on. You can even do the talking this time. ;-) Jessie will get them to announce the work day on TV, won't you Jessie? #1. We need to cut the brush around the perimeter NOW for the policemen, so they can see in easier, and the drug addicts are discouraged. #2. We need somebody to get the darn dumpster hauled off. If we put the brush piles by the curb, my new pal Gaitan Calletano, in charge of the environmental waste for that area, will haul it off, won't you Gaitan? Don't ask permission, ask forgiveness. #3. We need to carefully scrape the ground in Strangers' Row to reveal grave markers. I know how to dowse, finding them is no big deal. #4. Everybody needs to bring their own clippers, weed eaters, Deep Woods OFF, and ant spray. #5. I think the workers should take a tour of the cemetery, and introduce themselves to the residents. I'll be glad to show them around. Yes, I am equating one Lodge's difficulting in dealing with this issue with a general lack of sympathy from "the Masons." Aren't y'all an international brotherhood?Even the Grand Lodge of Texas didn't bother to respond to me. Frankly, YOU are the only person in the Masonic organization who ever bothered to respond, except for the Past Grand Master of Ireland. And you do speak for the Masons, so do your actions. Demolays grow up to be Masons. Mamma always told me that everything I did was a reflection on the Kleins. (when I was bad the Reveleys got credit) I think that goes for you and the Masons as well. Yup, I do remember the dances with fondness, but we had to wear those fluffy white dresses and I looked like one of Bo Peep's sheep. Don Lively is the person who has ignored my requests for a list of burials. I'm sending you a copy of the flyer Off List. Thanks James. I'll go tell my friends in the cemetery this afternoon. The Meusebachs first. Then I'm going to have a good cry. Muchas Gracias, Sarah

Sarah -- Great going -- thanks for all your efforts. And a special thank you for illustrating that there are a lot of people out there on our LIST. Hope more cemeteries and descendants get the picture of what a little HARD work will accomplish. You've been through a lot BUT there are a lot of people that will realize the benefits of your hard work. I have learned quite a few things from this project including great websites. Wish more days brought in as much information. Mary Lee Sloan >From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: James' answer... >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:05:14 -0500

Sarah, I am not involved in any decision making at the San Antonio Genealogical and Historical Society, but I will notify some of the officers of your offer. I'm sure there will be some interest. Diane Sarah wrote: >>>Headstones in The Alamo Masonic Cemetery were recorded by members of the San Antonio Genealogical and Historical Society and with the results being published (1985) in a book that can be obtained from the society. Please check their web pages for more information. >>> >>> >http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Etxsaghs2/pubs.htm <<Diane > >Thank you for that! The cemetery list is also online at http://www.angelfire.com/folk/alamo_masonic_cem/index.html . > >The SAGHS has done a tremendous job. There are photos of the gravestones on the website, which has been very helpful to me, because >you can see what the cemetery used to look like, before the Masons quit maintaining it. In 20 years the bushes cover many of them. Ant nests keep me from clipping away some of the bushes. :( > >If lists that are now online are keeping the SAGHS from selling the book and getting needed funds, perhaps we could all figure out another way to help them. I would be happy to charge for guided tours of the Alamo Masonic Cemetery, and donate some of the proceeds to the SAGHS. I need to raise funds for replacement of the State Historical Marker, and for a Historical Cemetery Marker once we get it designated > >Sarah > > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > >

My Canadian buddy from the Cumberland List. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb Baker To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Handing Out Flyers at the Old #44 Dontcha think that sounds like a song title ?? Handing out some flyers at the old #44 They did not ask Sarah to come in the door But who cares about that; Her opinion she gave In order to clean up....the old Important grave(s) Hmm hmmmm La lala LA LA