We would like to find some information about Juan Leal Goraz. We are the Phillips family here in Austin, and one of our ancestors was Joesph Dwyer and my grandmother was Annette Schmidt. If you have any more information please contact me. Thanks John Philllips, Jr. (Jace)

Russell Howard was once an Attorney General of Territory of Arizona appointed by President Jefferson Davis. He was last reported in 1900 Census of Texas living in San Antonio as a lawyer, aged 72, born in Maine. He was, also, a delegate from El Paso (temporary home) to the TX Secession Convention. He could have died in between 1900 and 1910 as his name was not found in 1910 Census. I strongly think he is buried in San Antonio where he lived for many years. (His name is mentioned in a book, Confederate Pathway to the Pacific by L. Boyd Finch.) Any information on his burial place would be greatly welcomed.

From the TX-LOOSE-ENDS LIST.... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TX-Loose-Ends-Column] History Uncovered - Technology helps volunteers find unmarked grave sites Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:13:14 -0600 Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:13:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynna Kay Shuffield <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Houston Chronicle - This Week - Aldine/Northside - 29 June 2005 History Uncovered - Technology helps volunteers find unmarked grave sites Evergreen's past is revelaed by moder means By BETTY L. MARTIN Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Technology is being used to locate — after years of speculation — unmarked grave sites possibly on the former plantation grounds of the Fifth Ward. "Until you have some proof, until it's scientifically proven, it's interesting, but not fact," said W.W. "Woody" Jones of Project Respect Inc., an organization dedicated to researching and preserving black cemeteries. "Let us do the scientific research and get the data so that we really know what's there." Jones, an independent consultant at Prairie View A&M, is assisting several geologists and volunteers from businesses who are surveying grave sites in Evergreen Negro Cemetery, a former cotton plantation, at the corner of Market Street and Lockwood. He and others decided to investigate Evergreen after students at Phyllis Wheatley High School and other teenagers participating in the Fifth Ward Enrichment Program wrote letters to politicians last year showing their interest in the cemetery and calling for its preservation. Jones said that through a blend of technology, used by geologists in finding oil and gas deposits under the earth's surface, and research of documents and oral histories, the team of volunteers and students can establish a database or template to be used in funding preservation projects at historic black cemeteries throughout Texas. Mark Everett of Texas A&M University and Carl Pierce of Pierce Geophysical Services have been setting up the radar equipment usually used in detecting hydrocarbons, Jones said. "What they do is to select a particular section that we are going to try and analyze, starting at the outer edge of the property, getting one line of data across the property so that we're able to see the underground graves as lines of data on the computer screen," Jones said. Some of the older tombstones in the cemetery bear the design of chain links, which signified the grave sites of slaves. Assigning different colors to soil, clay, sandy loam and the water table, scientists will be able to see if there is space in the middle that could be an unmarked grave. 'Seeing' graves "These people didn't buy vaults," Jones said. "Most of the coffins were wooden. As it decayed, with thousands of pounds of dirt on it, the grave site compresses down to 2- to 5-inches thick, above or below or right in the middle of the water table, so we see on the screen these different things expressed as lines." Jones began Project Respect in 1995, the year he worked with former Houston Mayor Bob Lanier's administration to change Texas law, giving nonprofit organizations the right to have access to the state's estimated 3,000 neglected grave sites for restoration and preservation purposes. "Up until 1995, you were basically trespassing to go on these properties. There was no way to rehabilitate them," Jones said. "We wanted to make it economically feasible to do the projects and the law gives nonprofit organizations the ability to petition district court to take control, to take possession of these properties to restore them." Most of the grave sites on Evergreen's eight acres, about two city blocks, date back to the late 1800s through World War II, but a few are older. The oldest known so far appears to date back to 1828, but time has eroded the tombstone. "We suspect it was 1828, but we need to get it to a lab and do a laser," Jones said. Jones said Evergreen, like nearby Olivewood Cemetery, could hold important historical significance. He was working in Olivewood, but decided to focus on Evergreen after students at Wheatley and in the Fifth Ward Enrichment Program wrote Harris County Commissioner El Franco Lee last year to ask for materials to help clean the cemetery. Dion Thomas was an M.B. Smiley sophomore when he wrote the commissioner June 30, 2004, describing the cemetery's condition while on a field trip with the 2004 Fifth Ward Enrichment Summer Program. "We saw tombstones broken and trashed, and there was trash all over the ground. I am writing to ask if you would help us make our community better. Like, one of the tombstones said, 'gone but not forgotten,' (but) that person is forgotten." Another student in that summer program, Tyler London, described in his letter to Lee tombstones sinking into the ground and grass that had not been cut in years. "Commissioner Lee, you know that the Buffalo Soldiers are buried there, so please, please get someone or some people to get this graveyard cleaned up, because some of my ancestors might be buried there — and some of yours, too." "They (the students) sent these letters that were circulated to a number of different politicians and it was the inspiration of these kids that really got their attention," Jones said. The students volunteered to cut grass and clean the debris from the cemetery at the beginning of last school year. Their efforts helped focus attention on the cemetery and attract other volunteers from Project Respect, the Houston Geological Society, Keep Houston Beautiful, the Cooperative Extension Program at Prairie View A&M University and businesses volunteers, said Margaret Fitzgerald, Wheatley's senior coordinator last year. Community effort Throughout the school year, Fitzgerald met with vocational teacher Diane Singleton, and their students at Evergreen. In April, Conoco-Phillips brought in volunteers to build the fence, and Jones got volunteers from the Houston Geological Society to survey the cemetery's map. The Wheatley students' interest in Evergreen really kicked off when they read the inscriptions on the tombstones. "We'd read them as we moved the weeds back," said Charles Williams, a licensed social worker with the program. "What really touched our hearts was the one for Helen Armistead, who only lived six months, born and died in 1928. And the ones with the chain lengths, the people born into slavery." It will be good to find out who is buried at Evergreen and to let their descendents know where their ancestors are buried, Williams said, and to have a ceremony when the work at Evergreen has been completed. "It's a beautiful feeling to see the total community coming together and getting involved from schools, institutions, other projects, because people care," he said. Lynna Kay Shuffield - P. O. Box 16604 - Houston, Texas 77222 'Our Loose Ends' Genealogy Column http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/COLUMN-001.htm Milam County TXGenWeb - http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ San Jacinto County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/SANJAC-01.htm ==== TX-LOOSE-ENDS Mailing List ==== "Our Loose Ends" Genealogy Column Website at: http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/COLUMN-001.htm

Something of interest regarding the recent issue of caring for cemetaries! I found this on GENFORUM and thought all might like to read about cemetary restoration and the subject of "dowsing" for un-marked/lost graves Linda Howard Jaschke -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Article_Seven.jpg (JPEG Image, 1554x1428 pixels) - Scaled (31%) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:23:03 -0500 From: Linda Jaschke <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: Linda Jaschke <[email protected]> http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1635434/i/Article_Seven.jpg

Hello List, I hate to bother you all and use this list for this topic, but I don't know where else to go. Either yesterday (6/22) or (6/21) there was an article about a Home Made Mosquito Repellent Mixture made with beer and I think Vinegar, it got thrown away with the trash accidentally and I am trying to find a copy of this recipe. Does anyone still have the Express & News that they could email me the mixture ???? I tried looking for it in _www.mysa.com_ (http://www.mysa.com) but can't find it. I would appreciate it if someone could email it to me. Thanks, Louise

Hi, **This message is being sent to the TXBEXAR mailing list.** The email address that RootsWeb has for the TXBEXAR list admin [email protected] is bouncing, so RootsWeb is looking to make contact with the list admin. Will the list admin please contact Andrew Billinghurst ([email protected]) so that we know that you are still maintaining this list and please reply quoting this message. List members there is nothing for you to worry about and nothing for you to do, it is probably just an email problem for the person looking after the day-to-day management of this list. Rest assured that this does not mean that your list is in danger. Thanks! Andrew Billinghurst, RootsWeb Staff [email protected] -- Andrew Billinghurst <[email protected]> Adopt-a-mailing list -> http://resources.rootsweb.com/adopt/ Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Another clean up of the historic San Antonio Confederate Cemetery is scheduled for August 6th starting at 9am. If you would like to help but can not attend tax exempt donations to help with expenses will be accepted. Checks should be made payable to Alamo Camp #1325 and mailed to Rudy Krisch, 1423 N. San Jacinto Street, San Antonio, TX 78207.

Where in Europe was your Hager family originally from? My great great great grandmother was Catherine HAAGER Strohmeyer. She was born in Burnhaupt-le-haut, Alsace, France about 1806. She and my great great great grandfather Francois Joseph Strohmeyer were one of the original settlers of Castroville, just west of San Antonio, in 1845. Ron Hesdorff [email protected] San Antonio, TX

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION OF ROBERT WM. FLEMING AND WIFE ELIZABETH BETTIE COCK? HAVEN'T LOCATED CCEMETERY THEY WERE MARRIED IN CASS COUNTY, TX. HAD A MARKET IN SAN ANTONIO, TX FOR MANY YEARS INCLUDING DURING MY MOTHER, INEZ FISHER'S TEEN YEARS 1912-1918. THEY ALSO HAD A MARKET IN ADA, OK PRIOR TO THAT TIME. THEIR ONLY GRDAU, INEZ FISHER ATTENDED MAIN HIGH-SCHOOL, SAN ANTONIO TX. WHILE LIVING WITH THEM. UNABLE TO FIND GRADUATION OF INEZ FISHER BUT DID FIND 1 CARD W/O A DATE. INEZ ALSO ATTENDED COLLEGE OF IND ARTS IN DENTON TX. MARGARET FOSTER [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

New to the list... Is there anyway that I can obtain the obituaries of Alma Hager Smith who died in San Antonio on April 26, 1992 or her sister, Gretchen Hager, who died in October, 1968. I am searching for members of the Hager family who moved from New Orleans to S.A. in about 1892. Mother: Johanna Thielen Father: John Hager Other siblings: Edda, Paul, Virginia, Adella, Freda, John, and Lila Hager. Would be interested in contacting any descendants of this family. JM The Woodlands -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005

Does anyone have access to marriage records for Victoria Texas, who could possibly help me find the details of the wife/husbands of the following? 1. James Allison HULL born Sept 17 1898 Victoria, father James HULL (born England naturalized 1894) mother Sophia GOLDMAN (born 1872 Texas). On the 1930 Census is the following: James A. Hull, son age 32, married, age at first marriage 32. born in Texas. unemployed machinery supply billing clerk. Winona J. Hull daughter in law. age 22 married. age at first marriage 22. born in Texas. Unemployed retail shoe store book keeper. 2. Florina Jenetta HULL born Oct 22 1895 Victoria Texas, father James mother Sophia GOLDMAN. She is reputed to have married a H.W.KERR- nothing else is known about her. She is on the 1910 with the family, but not the 1920 Census. 3. Algie HULL born Sept 29 1893 Victoria Texas, father James mother Sophia GOLDMAN. died on May 27, 1975 in San Antonio, Texas. She was married to a William Davis, according to the Social Security Death Index. In 1881 their father James HULL is a carpenter. In 1900 he is a cotton buyer In 1910 is an architect In 1920 is a cotton buyer(own business) He died before 1930. Would be grateful for any help in getting these families started. Simone Simone.

Looking for descendants of my great grandmother Lucinda Taylor. Looking for the descendants of the children of my great grandmother. She had three children prior to marrying my great grandfather Christoph Hasdorff. Their names were ELIZABETH (born about 1867), WILLIE (born about 1869) and JOHN WILEY(born in 1876 in Sattler) Taylor. I can't find any record of her marrying prior to my great grandfather and believe her first three children were born out of wedlock since they used her maiden name TAYLOR, unless she was also married to a Taylor. The children are listed living with her in the 1880 Census. I found her child John Wiley Taylor, who died in 1967, buried in the Smith Cemetery near Bergheim in Kendall County. My great grandmother Lucinda Taylor's father William W. Taylor brought our family to San Saba County, TX from Alabama sometime before 1870. Lucinda made her way to Comal County sometime between 1870 and 1876. My grandfather James Jackson Hasdorff/Hesdorff was her son, he was born in 1886 in Kendall County. Ron Hesdorff [email protected] San Antonio, TX

Another Cemetery on the Eastside of downtown San Antonio whose condition continues to get worst is City Cemetery #3. It is the City Cemetery on the Northern edge of St. Mary Catholic Cemetery and the Lutheran Cemetery. The Cemetery doesn't have a problem with weeds or overgrowth of brush, but a problem with vandals. It seems to be a pass through for people coming and going to New Braunfels Street on the Eastern edge of the cemetery. There are several missing and broken stones. The cemetery is kept mowed down by the city, I often wonder if the grass cutters knock over any stones while doing this. My great grandmother Lucinda Taylor Hasdorff (died 1911) and my great great grandfather Michael Gensweider/Gensweiler (died 1893) are buried in the Cemetery. I have never been able to find their graves. I found them listed in the Sexton Burial Records(Sexton were the ones who dug the graves for the city in the early days). It states they both are buried there. In the Sexton records Lucinda's name is spelled "Haisdorff". The records show the plot and section numbers. I called the City Parks Dept. to find out if they had records of their burials but they said they found no such people with their names listed in the cemetery records. They offered me to come down and view their cemetery listing. The City Parks Dept. also said their list might not be accurate. They faxed me a copy of the map of the cemetery with the section and plot numbers, but the numbers in no way matched the numbers given by the Sexton Burial Records. My great grandmother Lucinda Hasdorff's obituary and death certificate also states she is buried in City Cemetery #3. I am certain with proof of the Sexton records, the death certificate and the obituary she is buried there. My great grandfather Christoph Hasdorff died in 1917 and was buried in the San Antonio National Cemetery a few blocks away, he fought in the Civil War. I had thought possibly she was disentered and reentered to be buried next to him, but I have not found any records to support that theory. I would love to find their grave locations. I have found all my other paternal great grandparents in the Eastside Cemeteries but them. I have other paternal great grandparents buried in the Lutheran Cemetery (Mary Gensweiler Black Herbsleb), St. Mary Catholic Cemetery (Joseph Black) and the San Antonio National Cemetery (Christoph Hasdorff). Has anyone else had problems locating graves in City Cemetery #3? Does anyone have any suggestions to this kind of problem? Thank you, Ron Hesdorff [email protected] San Antonio, TX

Bexar County has a *NEW* cemetery list. Instructions below on how to sub to the list. So come on by and start *hitting* the list with some good old Bexar Co. discussion. people can subscribe to the list in mail mode by sending a message to [email protected] that contains the word subscribe and nothing else. If they prefer digest mode, they should send the command instead to [email protected] Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross McClain" > Bille you said a mouth full ! Cemetery are Genealogy. Ancesty.com think > so too and they own Rootsweb and findagrave.com. In Oklahoma we have > Oklahoma Cemetery and it rootweb too. If Texas has a cemetery list at > rootsweb let start hitting that list and make good use of it. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Jan this is great ! This is where we ought to be posting to. I was thinking of a State List and not local.

Bille you said a mouth full ! Cemetery are Genealogy. Ancesty.com think so too and they own Rootsweb and findagrave.com. In Oklahoma we have Oklahoma Cemetery and it rootweb too. If Texas has a cemetery list at rootsweb let start hitting that list and make good use of it.

Being able to locate the final resting place of our ancestors is a part of genealogy. Has anyone thought about contacting one of the Catholic organizations in the San Antonio area (Knights of Columbus, Catholic Life Insurance Union, etc.) to solicit them to help the Masons to clean up a mess (the cemetery) that should never have been allowed to get into the disgraceful state that it is in? Carroll Warschak Waco, Texas

Hi Carroll.... Just for clarification, I agree, locating the final resting place of ancestors is a part of genealogy and appropriate for the list.... but that would be listing the names located in a cemetery and location and description of that cemetery. But a mission to clean up cemeteries and post daily chats about the progress is a "cause"... no matter how worthy, .... also it is strickly forbidden to post another person's message to the list, .... all this according to the rules put forth by Rootsweb as conditions for use of their List. The other message was my first about this subject and now this is my last before it becomes chat ;-) ... back to genealogy.... the really fun stuff. Have a good day.... Billie [email protected] wrote: Being able to locate the final resting place of our ancestors is a part of genealogy. Has anyone thought about contacting one of the Catholic organizations in the San Antonio area (Knights of Columbus, Catholic Life Insurance Union, etc.) to solicit them to help the Masons to clean up a mess (the cemetery) that should never have been allowed to get into the disgraceful state that it is in? Carroll Warschak Waco, Texas ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!

Hello everyone, I have an ancestor that I have lost track of. Her name is Sarah Jane Thomas Ray Quillian. She was married first to Norris Dee Ray Sr. She had three children by him. Norris died January 24, 1894 in Nacogdoches County. Sarah and Norris Dee Ray Sr. are my great grandparents. Sarah got married again. I am assuming that Sarah and Dr. Clayton Causey Quillian married sometime between 1895-1898 in Nacogdoches County. Dr. Quillian had graduated from Emory Medical School in Atlanta, Georgia in 1886. Sarah and Dr. Quillian had a son together in August of 1899 and named him Clayton Quillian Jr. Dr. Quillian and Sarah were living around Garrison Valley in Nacogdoches County. His license to practice medicine was registered in Nacogdoches County in 1890. I located them on the 1900 census for Nacogdoches. This is where I lose track of Sarah. I know that Dr. Clayton Causey Quillian moved from Nacogdoches to San Antonio, Texas. I am not sure when that move took place. It had to be between 1900-1920. Dr. Quillian was found on the 1920 Bexar County census with a 4th wife named Adell. They had a daughter together and named her Ada. Sarah and Dr. Quillian's son Clayton Jr. was living with then at that time. Then on June 18, 1920 Dr. Quillian died in San Antonio. I have searched Bexar County Cemeteries websites trying to locate Sarah and Dr. Quillian. But no luck so far. I do not know if Sarah died before Dr. Quillian made his move to San Antonio, Bexar County or afterwards. I would like to know where Sarah and Dr. Quillian were laid to rest. If anyone has any information on this family I would like to hear from you. Thank you for your time and assistance. Priscilla Have a nice day! Priscilla

Hi, list members Just in for this one message, sorry I didn't think of it sooner. For the people who don't want to get each and every message, if you subscribe to the list as "digest",[TXBEXAR-D]. Then you can delete the messages that you don't want to see as a group instead of individual messages. G. Winters