Bill, You said that ..... Surname >Helper does not (to my knowledge) pick up surnames off of mailing lists >to be indexed in the Surname Helper searches...... We can though search the regional mailing lists for surnames by using http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl One nice thing I've seen happen on the WESTEX site is when either the web site or the boards have had some major changes, it gets mentioned on the mailing list. If I know something has been updated I'll tend to go check it. Laurel Burns >