I'll BET, if you're interested in the Museum, you'd like to know the URL, too!!!! Sorry 'bout that... the site address is: http://www.vvm.com/~museum Bemuddled Bill Bost TXBELL Listowner >Subject: Bell County Museum >Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:43:49 CST >Howdy All and Listers... >There is a first-draft working home page now for the Bell County >Museum. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Howdy All and Listers... There is a first-draft working home page now for the Bell County Museum. I've basically used information from a couple of the Museum's handout brochures to post there, and I hope it can evolve into something that can be of help for lots of folks. Check on it if you'd like, and I'll be getting some more "stuff" for it soon. Bill Bost Bell County CC/webmaster TXBELL Listowner Temporary, interim, volunteer for Museum page web design... for now. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

TXBELL Listers... It looks like we've got threaded messages indexing running for this list, in a regular-type internet page... GOOD STUFF!! Check this URL: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/TXBELL-L/ See your name mentioned prominently in lights!! I'll put some sort of hyperlink to this address on the Bell County page, and hope the archiver developer keeps this feature for the lists. I know it's a LOT of work for somebody to develop it and debug it. I think it'll help. Try it out. Bill Bost Bell County Coordinator/webmaster TXBELL Listowner RootsWeb Sponsor ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Bill ~ The Tate-List Owner ran into a similar problem about a month ago. I THINK I remember him saying he had to make an official request for his list to be added to the Archives search. (His name is Bill Ansley if you want to check that out.) ~ Cami ~ Bill Bost wrote: > Howdy All... > In playing with the search feature for the mailing list archives for > TXBELL, I think several things I've read about the beta test for it seem > to hold. At the main list of Mailing List Archives, TXBELL is not yet > listed (nor are a lot of other mailing lists). I have added the *list* > and *archiver* addresses to the mailing list, but it may take some time > before the message pickups get represented in a threaded index.

Thank you Bill, Sounds like this will be a beneficial research list. Becky Cockrum Researching Cockrum, Moore, Wood, and Powers from the Holland area of Bell County. Bill Bost wrote: > > Howdy All!! > > Responses back to my question about purposes the TXBELL list could serve > have been helpful. You've said: > > o You'd like to do queries and responses on the list, to help with your > genealogy researches... so we'll do that (I'll review the List Welcome > Letter to see what it says now and change it if needed). > > o You've also said you'd like to have Bell County history/genealogy > material put in from time to time, for background, leads, and general > information (I've got some permission-to-include requests out with some > Bell County sources, hoping I can include some of the interesting things > in Bell County history in this list and on the Bell County page). > > o Some of you would like to see something about the historical markers > in Bell County, and we can do that. > > o Also mentioned was finding out about where to look for what kind of > records, of genealogical interest (I'm working on that... I visited the > Belton, Temple, and Killeen Public Libraries, and have asked them for > some listings of what they have relating to Bell County, and whether or > not they'll loan them. Also, the Bell County Museum is interested in a > web presence, but didn't have anyone to work on a page for them, so I've > built a simple one to get them going.. try them after a while at > www.vvm.com/~museum.. but there's nothing there just yet :)...). > > > I have just started the TXBELL mailing list and had not been successful > in doing interactive searches yet at the address Laurel Burns gave, but > keep trying it. > > (Take a look at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and > let's get it doing something for us!) > > Laurel is right, it is a search of mailing lists, but I've not found > that it indexes into some of the board databases that Surname Helper > searches... so it may be a point of education for me! Maybe you need to > be using both for your searches to get the most benefit. Since I've only > been doing the Bell County page since the second week of February, and > had not ever used mailing lists or boards before TXBELL was set up, I > have a lot to learn about making it a useful tool. I do hope that > discussions will have something to do with Bell County, or genealogy > research relating to Bell County, or resources that can help with Bell > County research. > > Lastly, if you have material to put in the non-Query boards that's for > Bell County people, please post it, or send it to me to post. It seems > that the non-query boards in almost all of the Texas counties I've > browsed have very little (generally none) material in the Deed, Wills, > Pensions, Bible Records, Biographies, and Obituaries Boards, and I'd > think they'd be full of information. Is it too hard to do the postings, > or is a suitable format needed ("What does a good posting look like"?) > > Boy, it's interesting being a newbie listowner! > > Bill Bost > TXBELL Listowner > RootsWeb Sponsor > Bell County Coordinator/webmaster > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

You are exactly right, I had thought I was replying back to the list, I didn't check the reply to address, Thank you so much Cami, Becky Cami McCraw wrote: Becky ~ Please put what you put here on the list. I loved hearing from you, but apparently he is "polling everyone" (??) so would you mind posting this to the Bell County List? Actually you may have thought you were & it just came to me pesonally instead. Thanks!! Cami B Cockrum wrote: I believe that it would be beneficial also if we were able to discuss names and querys here also as real discussion is not really possible through the query board-just my thoughts At least for now I don't think that we are going to have to worry about there being an "overload" of traffic on the list- Becky Cami McCraw wrote: Bill & Others ~ I do think it should include surname queries & any responses, too. I have noticed you are revamping the Query Board for Bell County which is great, but that should sometimes be a duplicate of what we do here at the list; on the other hand you will have some people who use the query boards that do not want to ever subscribe to a mail list that comes directly to their mailbox. So, no need to worry about a complete duplication there. One of the positive points of Rootsweb is that it does come to your mailbox. And, often times we join the regional Rootsweb Lists in conjunction with surname lists, or when we have struck out there! I think the other suggestions that came in today are great, too, but I do think it needs to include surname querys & responses. I know personally if the responses are always sent to a board that I will have to go to, then I won't be here long -- too much trouble to always have to go through two steps. ~ Cami ~ Bill Bost wrote: For All Subscribers: It's occurred to me, as the TXBELL Listowner, that one of the things I've NOT yet done (since there are 17 of you already!) is ask YOU folks what sort of "tone" you think the list ought to take..

Hello everyone, I am posting our Bell County folks, in the hope that someone out there might be able to help us find out more about them. I have quiet a bit of information from here on down to us, but nothing on the parents or siblings of the founders of our little family. Hope this rings some bells out there. Would love to share information on the line. We understand that most of the family stayed in the Holland area, while our line moved to San Antonio and lost contact. Thanks in Advance Looking forward to speaking with you Debbie 1. LUTHER CURTIS1 LATHAM was born 1847, and died August 19, 1902 in Holland Texas Bell County. He married MARY CATHERINE FULLER 1875. Children of LUTHER LATHAM and MARY FULLER are: i. R. L.2 (RICH)LATHAM, m. CARRIE JOINER. ii. ANN LATHAM, m. ALEXANDER ODEM. iii. ELLEN LATHAM, m. FINNEY LOTT. iv. FANNY LATHAM, m. JOHN RALEY. v. J. E. (BUD) LATHAM, m. SUDIE JOINER. vi. MARY ELIZABETH LATHAM, m. JAMES HARRIS. vii. MYRTLE LEE LATHAM, d. September 22, 1970; m. FRED STOCKTON. viii. OLLIE LATHAM, m. CHARLES BARTHOLEMEW. ix. ROLLIE B LATHAM, m. MARY JANE BYRD. x. WILLIAM TILTON LATHAM, b. November 02, 1878; d. June 21, 1951, Holland Texas Bell County; m. NORA BYRD. xi. DOCIA THERODORO LATHAM, b. 1886; d. 1963, San Antonio, Texas Bexar County; m. ALBERT LOUIS ROBINETTE.

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When I received notification of the TXBELL list, my reaction was "Great, now I don't have to check the board". I don't really like them much. I'd rather have the info show up in my e-mail, than have to find a bookmark for it, find the message, click on it and then read it. Even though I'm notified when a new query is added and the surnames are listed, not ALL of the surnames are always listed, so I have to check anyway. The index feature is nice, but since the list is archived with a search feature, I really don't see the point of the boards now that a list exists. I'm on other regional boards, some really large (NC for instance), and this would be the only one that doesn't allow queries. My Two Cents, Rich Grimes McAllen, Texas - The City of Palms

Thank you Becky. (The question marks besides "polling everyone" was because I'm not sure how that one is spelled as a verb! It wouldn't be "pole" yet "poll" looks funny.) Anyway, even miss-spelled, now the listowner & others have one more opinion out of the 19 signed up. Also, this time, the "reply to all" worked -- went to the List as well as to Becky personally. ~ Cami ~ > Cami McCraw wrote: > > he is "polling everyone" (??) so would you mind posting this to the > Bell County List? Actually you may have thought you were & it just came > to me pesonally instead. > Thanks!! Cami > >

Bill, You said that ..... Surname >Helper does not (to my knowledge) pick up surnames off of mailing lists >to be indexed in the Surname Helper searches...... We can though search the regional mailing lists for surnames by using http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl One nice thing I've seen happen on the WESTEX site is when either the web site or the boards have had some major changes, it gets mentioned on the mailing list. If I know something has been updated I'll tend to go check it. Laurel Burns >

Thank you Pam. Something else I have noticed different about this list. -- On other Rootsweb lists, you have the option to hit "reply to all" which goes to the List as well as to the sender, in which case I usually delete off the personal e-mail of the sender because obviously they will get the same message twice from me if I left it on there. But, if you hit "reply to sender" it should just go to the sender of the message only-- not to the list. I notice that function has been taken off the Bell County list. (In other words, whichever option I choose, it goes directly to the list.) This is alot of trouble to contact a person directly, since you cannot use reply mode. Most of the time, putting something on the List is fine, but there are times (like doing a specific lookup for someone) when the personal e-mail is needed. A great example is that I notice Pam is from Orange County. I may have something to say to her directly about Orange County, but it doesn't belong on the list. I have to copy/paste her e-mail address or add her to my address book with no reply-mode working. ~ Cami ~ Pam Pugh wrote: > I agree with the response below. Surnames and responses included in the > mailing-list will make all of our researching much more profitable. > Just a word form a new member to the list. > Pam Pugh > Orange, TX 77630 > > E-mail: Pam3721@pnx.com >

Howdy All... In playing with the search feature for the mailing list archives for TXBELL, I think several things I've read about the beta test for it seem to hold. At the main list of Mailing List Archives, TXBELL is not yet listed (nor are a lot of other mailing lists). I have added the *list* and *archiver* addresses to the mailing list, but it may take some time before the message pickups get represented in a threaded index. We haven't been active very long, and I haven't found a threaded index as yet for TXBELL. When you work with the query window, apparently you can put in anything that you'd expect to find in TXBELL messages and get many of them (I tried TXBELL and got 8 out of 12 to display... the word *and* couldn't be parsed.. the term *www* got some more messages... *LDS* returned a different mix.) I'd guess until TXBELL gets included in the threaded index experiment you have to kind of go with what you've got. Anyone had better luck with mailing list retrievals for TXBELL? Some of the lists that ARE threaded have a nice indexing thing going for them. The URL for the archives is: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl I've noticed several other mailing lists I've just started subscribing to are not in the threaded index archives either. Well, it is a beta test! Bill Bost TXBELL Listowner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Howdy All!! Responses back to my question about purposes the TXBELL list could serve have been helpful. You've said: o You'd like to do queries and responses on the list, to help with your genealogy researches... so we'll do that (I'll review the List Welcome Letter to see what it says now and change it if needed). o You've also said you'd like to have Bell County history/genealogy material put in from time to time, for background, leads, and general information (I've got some permission-to-include requests out with some Bell County sources, hoping I can include some of the interesting things in Bell County history in this list and on the Bell County page). o Some of you would like to see something about the historical markers in Bell County, and we can do that. o Also mentioned was finding out about where to look for what kind of records, of genealogical interest (I'm working on that... I visited the Belton, Temple, and Killeen Public Libraries, and have asked them for some listings of what they have relating to Bell County, and whether or not they'll loan them. Also, the Bell County Museum is interested in a web presence, but didn't have anyone to work on a page for them, so I've built a simple one to get them going.. try them after a while at www.vvm.com/~museum.. but there's nothing there just yet :)...). I have just started the TXBELL mailing list and had not been successful in doing interactive searches yet at the address Laurel Burns gave, but keep trying it. (Take a look at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and let's get it doing something for us!) Laurel is right, it is a search of mailing lists, but I've not found that it indexes into some of the board databases that Surname Helper searches... so it may be a point of education for me! Maybe you need to be using both for your searches to get the most benefit. Since I've only been doing the Bell County page since the second week of February, and had not ever used mailing lists or boards before TXBELL was set up, I have a lot to learn about making it a useful tool. I do hope that discussions will have something to do with Bell County, or genealogy research relating to Bell County, or resources that can help with Bell County research. Lastly, if you have material to put in the non-Query boards that's for Bell County people, please post it, or send it to me to post. It seems that the non-query boards in almost all of the Texas counties I've browsed have very little (generally none) material in the Deed, Wills, Pensions, Bible Records, Biographies, and Obituaries Boards, and I'd think they'd be full of information. Is it too hard to do the postings, or is a suitable format needed ("What does a good posting look like"?) Boy, it's interesting being a newbie listowner! Bill Bost TXBELL Listowner RootsWeb Sponsor Bell County Coordinator/webmaster ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I agree with the response below. Surnames and responses included in the mailing-list will make all of our researching much more profitable. Just a word form a new member to the list. Pam Pugh Orange, TX 77630 E-mail: Pam3721@pnx.com Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [TXBELL-L] List Purpose and Scope >>Bill & Others ~ I do think it should include surname queries & any >>responses, too. >> One of the positive points of Rootsweb is that it does come to your >>mailbox. I know personally if the responses are always sent to a board that I will have to go to, >then I won't be here long -- too much trouble to always have to go through two >>steps. >>~ Cami ~

TXBELL List..... When I checked on how replies-to-list were set (what the default starting point was), it was set to NOT reply-to-list... I've changed that to reply-to-list, and I hope that will give more flexibility. You should expect your reply to a TXBELL posting to go back to the list as a whole, and you'd handle individual email directly to a sender. At least that's the idea! I have noticed in some of the traffic on the Listowners mailing list that there have been some problems in getting list settings to cooperate, so please be patient while the startup for this list is getting straightened out. Meanwhile, keep letting me know where something isn't working right, and I'll see what can be done to fix it. Bill Bost TXBELL Listowner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, I agree with Cami's viewpoint. I would like to see both surname queries, responses, useful hints/web sites, and history etc come through this list. (I like your hoping to have a lot of history information included.) I enjoy seeing what other names were around at the same time period and sometimes get very useful information from them (such as other families that came from Arkansas or Tennessee). I wouldn't necessarily stumble across some of that same information in the boards. There are a lot of places in which I would like to look besides Bell County, and never enough time to do them. If I just hopped around from one area I'm looking into to another to another.....it would take quite a while before I cycled back to Bell Co. By subscribing to this, I am trying to concentrate more on this area. I would like to see surnames included and I like having info come to the mail box. Thanks for trying to clarify the issue, Bill. When you figure it out what the general consensus seems to be, let us know how this mail list will work . Laurel Burns -----Original Message----- From: Cami McCraw <ladkins@startext.net> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [TXBELL-L] List Purpose and Scope >Bill & Others ~ I do think it should include surname queries & any >responses, too. I have noticed you are revamping the Query Board for Bell >County which is great, but that should sometimes be a duplicate of what we >do here at the list; on the other hand you will have some people who use the >query boards that do not want to ever subscribe to a mail list that comes >directly to their mailbox. So, no need to worry about a complete >duplication there. > One of the positive points of Rootsweb is that it does come to your >mailbox. And, often times we join the regional Rootsweb Lists in >conjunction with surname lists, or when we have struck out there! > I think the other suggestions that came in today are great, too, but I do >think it needs to include surname querys & responses. I know personally if >the responses are always sent to a board that I will have to go to, then I >won't be here long -- too much trouble to always have to go through two >steps. >~ Cami ~ > >Bill Bost wrote: > >> For All Subscribers: >> >> It's occurred to me, as the TXBELL Listowner, that one of the things >> I've NOT yet done (since there are 17 of you already!) is ask YOU folks >> what sort of "tone" you think the list ought to take.. > >

Cami... You're one of several people who'd like to see queries allowed on the TXBELL mailing list. I had not planned to allow it, because Surname Helper does not (to my knowledge) pick up surnames off of mailing lists to be indexed in the Surname Helper searches. BUT.. I am listening to the subcriber interests. I'm most interested in seeing queries about people being in the Query Board area, because of the indexing feature RootsWeb provides. I'm re-considering my position about queries on the list... I'm not sold on the idea yet, but I also don't want to be too arbitrary if allowing queries here actually does a significant service for the subscribers. I'm presently thinking that when a query I'd really prefer be posted to the Query Board shows up that I let the subscriber know, ask them to ALSO POST to the Query Board, and let the posting here stand. When it feels like subscriber input about the purpose and scope of the list is about what I'll get, I plan to summarize your collective input where there seems to be consensus, and put it out to the list for a look-see, and probably then incorporate your ideas into the Welcome Message for the -L and -D new subscribers. True, the list is mine... but I want it to work for the subscribers, and not against them... and support genealogy research for Bell County. If queries were to get out of hand, then..... Appreciating your Comments Listers!! By the way, now there are 19 of you as subscribers... we're growing. Bill Bost Bell County Coordinator/webmaster TXBELL Listowner >Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 02:52:11 -0600 >From: Cami McCraw <ladkins@startext.net> >Reply-To: ladkins@startext.net >Subject: Re: [TXBELL-L] List Purpose and Scope >To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com > >Bill & Others ~ I do think it should include surname queries & any >responses, too. I have noticed you are revamping the Query Board for Bell >County which is great, but that should sometimes be a duplicate of what we >do here at the list; on the other hand you will have some people who use the >query boards that do not want to ever subscribe to a mail list that comes >directly to their mailbox. So, no need to worry about a complete >duplication there. > One of the positive points of Rootsweb is that it does come to your >mailbox. And, often times we join the regional Rootsweb Lists in >conjunction with surname lists, or when we have struck out there! > I think the other suggestions that came in today are great, too, but I do >think it needs to include surname querys & responses. I know personally if >the responses are always sent to a board that I will have to go to, then I >won't be here long -- too much trouble to always have to go through two >steps. >~ Cami ~ > >Bill Bost wrote: > >> For All Subscribers: >> >> It's occurred to me, as the TXBELL Listowner, that one of the things >> I've NOT yet done (since there are 17 of you already!) is ask YOU folks >> what sort of "tone" you think the list ought to take.. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Bill & Others ~ I do think it should include surname queries & any responses, too. I have noticed you are revamping the Query Board for Bell County which is great, but that should sometimes be a duplicate of what we do here at the list; on the other hand you will have some people who use the query boards that do not want to ever subscribe to a mail list that comes directly to their mailbox. So, no need to worry about a complete duplication there. One of the positive points of Rootsweb is that it does come to your mailbox. And, often times we join the regional Rootsweb Lists in conjunction with surname lists, or when we have struck out there! I think the other suggestions that came in today are great, too, but I do think it needs to include surname querys & responses. I know personally if the responses are always sent to a board that I will have to go to, then I won't be here long -- too much trouble to always have to go through two steps. ~ Cami ~ Bill Bost wrote: > For All Subscribers: > > It's occurred to me, as the TXBELL Listowner, that one of the things > I've NOT yet done (since there are 17 of you already!) is ask YOU folks > what sort of "tone" you think the list ought to take..

Bill (Bost) & others ~ I am new to this list & notice that whenever someone has a question with a surname it gets moved to the Bell County Query Board with a request to not respond to this list. Why? ~ Cami ~