Howdy TXBELL Listers.. Forwarded from a list subscriber, from another list, FWIW. Of interest in developing preservation information for our Bell County cemeteries, and trying not to harm the stones therein. If you've found cemetery- or tombstone-specific books or sites of use in getting information about care, that we can use in trying to catch up, or get ahead, of cemetery preservation in Bell County, would you share it? David Casto does a particulary spectacular job of trying to keep up with cemetery cleaning, county-wide, but actually getting headstones repaired and memorial damage fixed PROPERLY is difficult. David can always use volunteers, if you're interested in the physical clearing and recovery end of things about cemeteries. He primarily cleans up cemeteries for which no cemetery association is identified. There are so many conflicting guides about headstone cleaning. Cleaning stones, as is pointed out below, seems to be safest with the water and soft-bristle brush approach. If you'd like some interesting reading on cemetery preservation, recording, etc., the Association for Tombstone Studies, the Connecticut Tombstone Network (I think I've got that right), and even our TexGenWeb Tombstone Transcription Project, have got information at their sites. It can be so sad to see headstones or markers damaged, no longer legible, or whatever, and realize that individual's history is probably gone forever... along with someone's "connection" with the here-and-now. Bill Bost Bell County Coordinator ===== Forwarded message==== For yall's FYI files. I don't know these people nor do I have a vested interest in a water company or a soft-bristle brush company...and I have nothing against WINK or winking....q;-). I do have a vested interest in helping to avoid damage to headstones....if you think it is acceptable for the list, will you post it to the list, please? Think I will see if I can get in touch with some companies that make these things and ask them what is the best way to preserve the stones. MaryAnn Bartlett >-----Original Message----- >From: terry linn <tlynne@bellsouth.net> >Subject: [Fwd: [OHNOBLE-L] Cleaning tombstones.] >Dave Pickenpaugh wrote: >It is always best to get a second opinion when dealing with >something as important as a grave marker, it may contain >information that might be lost for ever. > >>On Sunday some information was listed about cleaning a tombstone: >|>"Listers, there is a product at Wal_Mart called "Whink". It >|>removes iron rust etc. It can be used on concrete and granite. It >|>does a wonderful job cleaning old tombstones." >|> >|> I contacted a lady who has my highest respect when it concerns >|> grave sites, this is her reply, regarding the product recommended. >|> I would ask everyone who might consider cleaning a grave stone to >|> read this posting. >|> >|> Dave Pickenpaugh - Marblemount, WA >|> pickenpaugh@bigfoot.com >|> >|> Dave: >|> >|> I went to www.whink.com and found that the primary ingredients of >|> the Whink >|> Rust & Iron stain remover are: >|> >|> Sodium bisulfate and >|> Sodium hydrosulfate >|> >|> The Material Safety Data Sheet for this product lists a >|> "characteristic sulfur odor". >|> >|> Based on this information, I would NOT recommend the use of this >|> product on gravestones. I don't doubt that it does an amazing >|> job of cleaning the stones, but the problem is that it doubtless >|> does appreciable damage to the stone itself and is thus not a |> good idea as it may, in fact, eat away at the surface of the |> stone. >|> >|> I could be wrong, but my gut reaction is that Whink is a bad idea >|> for use on grave stones. >|> >|> I just bought a copy of "Landscapes of Memories" from the Canadian >|> Ministry of Citizenship, Culture and Recreation (EXCELLENT |> resource). They echo the oft-repeated recommendation to rely on >|> water and a soft-bristled brush. >|> >|> For removing "efflorescence [white staining] and subflorescence of >|> water-soluble salts", they recommend the application of a >|> "poultice" of water and diatomaceous earth, fuller's earth or |> kaolinite, applied about 1/2" thick. When dried, the poultice is >|> removed, hopefully along with the stain. >|> >|> The book has detailed recommendations for removing many other >|> types of stains. >|> >|> "Landscapes of Memories: A Guide for Conserving Historic >|> Cemeteries" >|> >|> "The Heritage Properties and Museum Programs Unit of the Cultural >|> Programs Branch, Province of Ontario, has just released their |> excellent guide book, Landscapes of Memories: A Guide for |> Conserving Historic Cemeteries. The guide has been written by |> specialists in masonry conservation, and provides technical >|> information on common tombstone repairs, as well as general >|> information about grave markers and their construction. Copies are >|> only $10 each (Canadian), plus shipping and handling." >|> >|> I've already ordered my copy. Cost: $14.75 (including S/H) in >|> Canadian dollars (not sure of the exchange rate). >|> >|> Even if you don't order a copy, go to: >|> http://www.gov.on.ca/MCZCR/english/culdiv/heritage/memories.htm >|> to see the excellent sample drawing showing details of repairing a >|> busted flat-piece marker, one of the most common repairs I've seen >|> required. >|> >|> Lois _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

I am looking for information on Jessie and Mary Jane Massingill Vincent Cole. They were on the 1870 Bell County census. Jessie Cole, 55 Farmer, N.C. Jane 29 Tn Mary 12 Tx John 11 Tx James 6 Tx Liddie 4 Tx Eliza 1 Tx Jessie Cole was married to Lucretia Brown (his first Wife) Their Children; Harriet Cole m Levi B. Davis Sarah Jane m William D.Y. Davis Sam H. Anna m Winfield Beckner in Bell Co. Jessie T. Cole m Sarah J. Cowan Adaline m William P. Haynes Bell Co. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks Carlian Massingill Pittman, carlian@airmail.net

Thanks Mary Ann, I say Milam County due to the simple fact the Fuller Family, I believed lived there first. But as we all know I am so wrong most of the time who knows Thanks again Debbie > Also check in Williamson County...it was part of Milam, too. And also > Coryell Co....it was carved out of Bell County but I don't remember the > dates. Try this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > > In THE STORY of BELL COUNTY, TEXAS...LATHAM, pages: > 135,136,137,262,268,519,660,889,910,972 > > FULLER: 106,136,179,260,281,336,368,498,509,583,666,701,745,767,813,933,934 > > Pages in common:136 > > I also remeber that many of the pioneers coming from the southern states > came into Texas around Sabine Pass...spent a year or so in what was or > became Orange Co., TX. > > I have errands to run but when I get back, I can check the above page > numbers for you if you still need the information. I think...THINK...I may > get to Bell County Cthouse this morning and will check in the Unclaimed > Documents Index. > > MAB > -----Original Message----- > From: Possum <possum@gulftel.com> > To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 11:35 AM > Subject: [TXBELL-L] Re: request help > > > |Hello everyone, > | > |I would like to ask a big favor. If anyone gets to Milam County to check > |marriage records and has some spare time. Please check and see if there is > |a L. C. Latham married to a M. C. Fuller the year would be around 1871 or > |very late 1870. We have checked the Bell County records with no luck, so I > |am thinking maybe they were married across the line in Milam County > |instead. They were not married in Alabama as far as we can tell. > | > |Thanks in Advance for any and all help > |Debbie > | > | > |==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== > |The Bell County Genealogy And History Page Is At: > |http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbell > | > > > > ==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb Supports GenConnect > Help Support RootsWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Also check in Williamson County...it was part of Milam, too. And also Coryell Co....it was carved out of Bell County but I don't remember the dates. Try this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm In THE STORY of BELL COUNTY, TEXAS...LATHAM, pages: 135,136,137,262,268,519,660,889,910,972 FULLER: 106,136,179,260,281,336,368,498,509,583,666,701,745,767,813,933,934 Pages in common:136 I also remeber that many of the pioneers coming from the southern states came into Texas around Sabine Pass...spent a year or so in what was or became Orange Co., TX. I have errands to run but when I get back, I can check the above page numbers for you if you still need the information. I think...THINK...I may get to Bell County Cthouse this morning and will check in the Unclaimed Documents Index. MAB -----Original Message----- From: Possum <possum@gulftel.com> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 11:35 AM Subject: [TXBELL-L] Re: request help |Hello everyone, | |I would like to ask a big favor. If anyone gets to Milam County to check |marriage records and has some spare time. Please check and see if there is |a L. C. Latham married to a M. C. Fuller the year would be around 1871 or |very late 1870. We have checked the Bell County records with no luck, so I |am thinking maybe they were married across the line in Milam County |instead. They were not married in Alabama as far as we can tell. | |Thanks in Advance for any and all help |Debbie | | |==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== |The Bell County Genealogy And History Page Is At: |http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbell |

Hello everyone, I would like to ask a big favor. If anyone gets to Milam County to check marriage records and has some spare time. Please check and see if there is a L. C. Latham married to a M. C. Fuller the year would be around 1871 or very late 1870. We have checked the Bell County records with no luck, so I am thinking maybe they were married across the line in Milam County instead. They were not married in Alabama as far as we can tell. Thanks in Advance for any and all help Debbie

Lists; I had several requests about my query about a gen. conf. in Plano. I must have been dreaming when I was reading. But below is some info that may be useful to you (or not). DeWayne Wallace -----Original Message----- From: LaDarlaK@aol.com <LaDarlaK@aol.com> To: dewayne@apex2000.net <dewayne@apex2000.net> Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 9:17 AM Subject: Re: Seek Conference Info > <A HREF="http://www.dallasgenealogy.org/">DALLAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY</A> >I believe the conference you are speaking of is mentioned here. The Gen. >group is based in Plano, but the conference will be held at the Dallas Public >Library, this year, downtown. And the cost is $200 per person. >Details at the above location. > >La Darla

Bill, just went through all the sites you sent...the Bell County stuff...it's a super place to visit. Can you imagine the treasure of it when we get more and more information uploaded!! Makes me want to work harder. Great job...enjoyed looking around...and thanks for allowing me to be part of it. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bost <longwired@hotmail.com> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 2:43 PM Subject: [TXBELL-L] WEB2000 Update |For The TXBELL List, and others.... an update on what's happening in the Bell County web pages...

For The TXBELL List, and others.... an update on what's happening in the Bell County web pages... The following cemetery lists have been posted on the Bell County Archives: Antioch (Heidenheimer Negro) Bartlett City Donahoe Heidenheimer Negro Holland Pleasant Hill Post Oak Proctor Resthaven Rock Hollow St John's Lutheran Volo Sent up today for inclusion in the Archives are: Boone-Hamlin Blacburn Eulogy (Carpenter('s)) Garden of Memories Goode Griffin Henington Hodge Hunt Family Immanuel Lutheran Lancaster Live Oak Maxdale Mayberry McBryde Mitchell These are older lists from Polly Peaks-Elmore compilation in Bell County Cemeteries. There are more to follow. The Archives are at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/bell/belltoc.htm The Bell County Historical Commission (and, temporarily giving space to the Sesquicentennial Committee) web page actually has some content on it now... a trial effort to see what looks okay where, and how it connects, and so forth.... some of the page links aren't straight yet!! The Bell County Historical Commission web page is at: www.rootsweb.com/~txbchc Lastly, biographies from The Story Of Bell County (which MaryAnn Bartlett has been working hard on) are being posted to the Bell County History and Genealogy Biographies Board. Well worth checking on from time to time, and there are already some going there. It's at: cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Bell? Or you can go through the Bell County Genealogy and History home page. The WEB2000 volunteers have several cemeteries out for typing, and some of their products are among those on the Archives page!! Thanks to all who are contributing, and using, the work. Bill Bost Bell County Coordinator _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

The Hamilton County Genealogy Library and Recearch Center in Hamilton, Tx. has purchased the Texas Birth and Death Index on Micro film, 1902 to 1976. Everyone is welcome to come to our Genealogy Library and look at these indexs./ Our address is 209 W. Henry, Hamilton, Tx. Thanks Carlian Massingill Pittman, carlian@airmail.net Hamilton County Genealogy Society, hcgs@htcomp.net

Yes, thank you. they were very clear and beautiful. Such a beautiful area. Thank you again. -----Original Message----- From: MaryAnn Bartlett <bartlett@vvm.com> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [TXBELL-L] Seek Conference Info >Did you get those pictures of ALLEN gravesites...and were they of any use to >your research? >MA >-----Original Message----- >From: DeWayne Wallace <dewayne@apex2000.net> >To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 9:01 AM >Subject: [TXBELL-L] Seek Conference Info > > >|List Owners; >| >|I read somewhere that there was a genealogy conference in Plano >|sometime this summer. If anyone can give me information or at least >|point me in the right direction, I would be very appreciative. To >|prevent a hundred replies, would the list owners only reply. >| >|Thank you. >| >|DeWayne Wallace >| >| >|==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== >|Support Your Local Genealogy Or Historical Society... You Can Often >|Find Helpful Points Of Contact And Resources There. >| > > > >==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== >Support Your Local Genealogy Or Historical Society... You Can Often >Find Helpful Points Of Contact And Resources There. >

Did you get those pictures of ALLEN gravesites...and were they of any use to your research? MA -----Original Message----- From: DeWayne Wallace <dewayne@apex2000.net> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 9:01 AM Subject: [TXBELL-L] Seek Conference Info |List Owners; | |I read somewhere that there was a genealogy conference in Plano |sometime this summer. If anyone can give me information or at least |point me in the right direction, I would be very appreciative. To |prevent a hundred replies, would the list owners only reply. | |Thank you. | |DeWayne Wallace | | |==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== |Support Your Local Genealogy Or Historical Society... You Can Often |Find Helpful Points Of Contact And Resources There. |

List Owners; I read somewhere that there was a genealogy conference in Plano sometime this summer. If anyone can give me information or at least point me in the right direction, I would be very appreciative. To prevent a hundred replies, would the list owners only reply. Thank you. DeWayne Wallace

I'll redo these later tonight so you can read them...sorry. I forgot these stupid PC have no sense of organization like Macs. Ann -----Original Message----- From: MaryAnn Bartlett <bartlett@vvm.com> To: Bill Bost <longwired@hotmail.com>; Bell County Texas <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 5:16 PM Subject: Hillcrest Cemetery, Temple, Bell Co., TX; Various names found on first search |Didn't all pictures yet. Have to go back. They had funerals yesterday |afternoon and today. | |*1 *2 Big Stone: BIGHAM | Father |Mother | John Pat |Tennie R. | 1859 - 1934 |1866 - 1947 | |*1 |Daughter Florence Bigham Lewellen |Mary Alice June 21, 1897 |Jan. 21, 1942 Apr 18, 1972 |July 3, 1967 | |*1 = was actually close enough to the BIGHAM family stone and another family |stone. Not sure to which it belonged so I included it with the BIGHAMs. |=================================== |VANNOY |Dennis H. |Feb 4, 1914 |Oct 4, 1977 | |VANOY |Herbert Henry Sue Effie |1882 - 1957 1889 - 1990 |================================ |BOX |Frank Embree Box Kate Ione Box Ruby Phillips Box |Jan 29, 1874 Dec 13, 1875 died Jan 24, 1952 |Oct 22, 1936 Jan 4, 1944 |--------------------------------------------------- |Lavert Box Keith |Jan 13, 1905 KEITH = Family name stone facing parallel |to grave and road |Dec 12, 1948 |====================================== |FLINT |A.L. Flint Nannie Flint Albert L. Flint, Jr. Bernice |Fischer |1866 - 1954 1868 - 1940 1901 - 1967 |Flint | |1907 - 1997 | | A. L. FLINT = |Large family stone |======================================= |Abner J. Kuykendall Mrs. A. J. Kuykendall |July 2, 1871 Apr 24, 1875 |Dec 27, 1955 Jan 16, 1968 | (()) | DAR plaque | | KUYDENDALL = Family |stone |Abner Caldwell Kuykendall Lucy Archer Rountree |Major USSAAF Kuykendall |WWII |Sept 6, 1905 - Jul 14, 1989 Aug 10, 1904 - Oct 12, 1993 |============================================== |ALLEN |Father Mother |Joe O. Allen Ida M. Allen |1882 - 1967 1882 - 1957 |====================================== |Edgar Hugo Bess Lynn Flint |von Rosenberg von Rosenberg |Oct 10, 1904 July 20, 1905 |July 25, 1990 | | J. W. FLINT |J.W. Flint Annie Flint Will Dean Flint |1863 - 1919 1870 - 1956 Sept 2, 1908 | |Feb 25, 1999 |=============================================== |JARRELL |A.J. Jarrell |Jul 25, 1860 |Sept 13, 1935 | |Edward W. Jarrell Marzee B. Jarrell *1 |*2 |Dec 28, 1902 Oct 4, 1870 |Nov 5, 1970 Apr 13, 1964 | |*1 *2 |John W. Bauguss Mary Angie Bauguss |Jan 26, 1843 Aug 30, 1854 |Nov 20, 1936 May 23, 1944 |=============================================== |R.L. (Bob) Worden Tennie Bigham Worden |Apr 10, 1874 Feb 18, 1879 |Apr 27, 153 Feb 10, 1940 |============================================ |ALLEN |James A. Mollie V. |Nov 28, 1865 July 27, 1879 |Oct 3, 1939 July 31, 1956 | |To the Left of the Allen family stone and, seemingly, with the ALLENs: | /In God We Trust/ |Roy Lowrey Clyde Lee Allen |Wyatt Wyatt |Mar 21, 1894 Mar 3, 1897 |May 18, 1985 Mar 8, 1976 | | [And then below these two sites:] | |Fred Allen Wyatt ** George H. Wyatt Dorothy A .Cowan |Apr 12, 1892 1859 - 1933 | 1919 - 1950 |Dec 14, 1932 | |**This space between Fred Allen Wyatt and George H. Wyatt looks big enough |to put another casket in the ground. |========================================= |HOOD |Father Mother |Josiah Josephine |May 6, 1857 Mar 25, 1857 |June, 1933 Apr 28, 1941 |========================================= |BIRD |Edwin Lee Lydia Croft |Jan 20, 1912 Feb 16, 1922 |Apr 14, 1983 |==================================== |GRIFFIN |Luther A., Jr Mildred Croft |Apr 13, 1924 Jan 28, 1924 | Feb 11, 1988 | | | |

Didn't all pictures yet. Have to go back. They had funerals yesterday afternoon and today. *1 *2 Big Stone: BIGHAM Father Mother John Pat Tennie R. 1859 - 1934 1866 - 1947 *1 Daughter Florence Bigham Lewellen Mary Alice June 21, 1897 Jan. 21, 1942 Apr 18, 1972 July 3, 1967 *1 = was actually close enough to the BIGHAM family stone and another family stone. Not sure to which it belonged so I included it with the BIGHAMs. =================================== VANNOY Dennis H. Feb 4, 1914 Oct 4, 1977 VANOY Herbert Henry Sue Effie 1882 - 1957 1889 - 1990 ================================ BOX Frank Embree Box Kate Ione Box Ruby Phillips Box Jan 29, 1874 Dec 13, 1875 died Jan 24, 1952 Oct 22, 1936 Jan 4, 1944 --------------------------------------------------- Lavert Box Keith Jan 13, 1905 KEITH = Family name stone facing parallel to grave and road Dec 12, 1948 ====================================== FLINT A.L. Flint Nannie Flint Albert L. Flint, Jr. Bernice Fischer 1866 - 1954 1868 - 1940 1901 - 1967 Flint 1907 - 1997 A. L. FLINT = Large family stone ======================================= Abner J. Kuykendall Mrs. A. J. Kuykendall July 2, 1871 Apr 24, 1875 Dec 27, 1955 Jan 16, 1968 (()) DAR plaque KUYDENDALL = Family stone Abner Caldwell Kuykendall Lucy Archer Rountree Major USSAAF Kuykendall WWII Sept 6, 1905 - Jul 14, 1989 Aug 10, 1904 - Oct 12, 1993 ============================================== ALLEN Father Mother Joe O. Allen Ida M. Allen 1882 - 1967 1882 - 1957 ====================================== Edgar Hugo Bess Lynn Flint von Rosenberg von Rosenberg Oct 10, 1904 July 20, 1905 July 25, 1990 J. W. FLINT J.W. Flint Annie Flint Will Dean Flint 1863 - 1919 1870 - 1956 Sept 2, 1908 Feb 25, 1999 =============================================== JARRELL A.J. Jarrell Jul 25, 1860 Sept 13, 1935 Edward W. Jarrell Marzee B. Jarrell *1 *2 Dec 28, 1902 Oct 4, 1870 Nov 5, 1970 Apr 13, 1964 *1 *2 John W. Bauguss Mary Angie Bauguss Jan 26, 1843 Aug 30, 1854 Nov 20, 1936 May 23, 1944 =============================================== R.L. (Bob) Worden Tennie Bigham Worden Apr 10, 1874 Feb 18, 1879 Apr 27, 153 Feb 10, 1940 ============================================ ALLEN James A. Mollie V. Nov 28, 1865 July 27, 1879 Oct 3, 1939 July 31, 1956 To the Left of the Allen family stone and, seemingly, with the ALLENs: /In God We Trust/ Roy Lowrey Clyde Lee Allen Wyatt Wyatt Mar 21, 1894 Mar 3, 1897 May 18, 1985 Mar 8, 1976 [And then below these two sites:] Fred Allen Wyatt ** George H. Wyatt Dorothy A .Cowan Apr 12, 1892 1859 - 1933 1919 - 1950 Dec 14, 1932 **This space between Fred Allen Wyatt and George H. Wyatt looks big enough to put another casket in the ground. ========================================= HOOD Father Mother Josiah Josephine May 6, 1857 Mar 25, 1857 June, 1933 Apr 28, 1941 ========================================= BIRD Edwin Lee Lydia Croft Jan 20, 1912 Feb 16, 1922 Apr 14, 1983 ==================================== GRIFFIN Luther A., Jr Mildred Croft Apr 13, 1924 Jan 28, 1924 Feb 11, 1988

MaryAnn Bartlett wrote: > > I am NOT going to spend any more long periods of time carefully putting this > information up to send! These darn computers mess it all up. I looked at > some of the family information I transcribed and it looked like I did not > know how to write a sentence!!!!! I want you all to know that I am a > retired teacher and that I did my Bachelor's and Master's and part of my PhD > in Physical Education, Kinesiology, Special Education, Athletic Training and > ENGLISH!!! I taught classes of English...creative writing, composition, > etc......it is the computer that messes up my sentence structure! > ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH > Dear Mary Ann, I love it!!! I too taught school, and am retired. I know just how you feel!!! The young understand these computers so much better than we, my grandchildren help me sometimes. ...I have been trying for several years to > get some help with my BARTLETTs and BELLs in MO and no one has answered. I live in Missouri and will be happy to try and help you. What is it you need? Just let me know. Columbia has good libraries, and I live about one hour from there. My husband had ancestors in your area. Some of his were: Arrowood, Jameson, Farmer, and Leatherwoods. Bette Leatherwood

I am NOT going to spend any more long periods of time carefully putting this information up to send! These darn computers mess it all up. I looked at some of the family information I transcribed and it looked like I did not know how to write a sentence!!!!! I want you all to know that I am a retired teacher and that I did my Bachelor's and Master's and part of my PhD in Physical Education, Kinesiology, Special Education, Athletic Training and ENGLISH!!! I taught classes of English...creative writing, composition, etc......it is the computer that messes up my sentence structure! ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH I am going by the Volo Cemetery for pictures, the Hillcrest Cemetery for pictures...Rountree...and try to get by the record office in Belton to search some....if I can get someone to lift the books for me...I want to take the names you all have sent and first check the "Unrecovered" documents. These are such things as birth certificates and marriage certificates. Most county courthouses keep the unclaimed originals in their vaults and they look as new as the day they were prepared. In the early days our ancestors may have lived so far away from the county seat that they never got there to collect the documents. For example, people in Bartlett had to travel at least a day and a half or two days to get to Belton...plus in the very early days, they were actually in Milam County....sometimes they were killed by Indians or outlaws or became ill and died before they could pick up the documents. If there is one of your ancestors there, I will let you know so you can request it...in Williamson County you have to request it in writing and include a photcopy of your driver's lisc. I cannot collect the document for you...I can, however, get a copy for you. I asked about the copy of the driver's lisc. and they told me that that information is for county records only and not for public distribution. If you request and show your proof first, you get the document. If anyone else asks, they are told another family member claimed it and showed proof. The clerk said that you could put an address or email addy on your letter if you wanted to so other relatives could contact you. Next week I plan to go to Coryell and Lampasas Cos. to do some looking. Most of my time will have to be spent searching for a QUEEN family. I have been working for a lady in California for a couple of years now...a friend is going with me to help lift books and copy information and get copies. If I find someone you mentioned, I will get a plain copy of the document and snail mail it to you along with a request form for you to use to get a certified copy. If I were you all, especially any of you new to this work, I would stay with the plain copies...usually only a dollar. If, for some reason you need a certified copy later, you can order it. Some of the certified copies can be upwards of $25 in come counties. If you want me to get you a certified copy, I can....but I would like for you to send me a note snail mail requesting I get you the certified copy of Clem Kadiddlehopper and Mrs. Kadiddlehopper for your genealogical files. State that you are a descendent of the Kadiddlehoppers as they are your gggggggggggggggggrandparents. If you live in another state it might be good to mention that. MA Bartlett P.O. Box 606 Bartlett, TX 76511 I will do all I can to help yall.....I have been trying for several years to get some help with my BARTLETTs and BELLs in MO and no one has answered. I know how hard it is to get to other states and even to other counties in a state. Some of us here in Texas have to drive as high as 800 miles one way to get to a county in North or West Texas. I did make a 1600 mi. trip for a lady several years ago to get information on a person she was sure was her ancestor. It turned out he was not her ancestor. I learned something about the land records .... those in Texas that have Sam Houston, Stephen F. Austin, Moses Austin, and Samuel May Williams (McKinney & Williams), these are in the early 1800s...before there were any counties...when TX still belonged to Mexico. Some of your ancestors during this time were actually Mexican Citizens and may have had to get a Passport to come into TX. Also, if you see a name listed and get to the ABS (abstract no.) and it has 999999....that means that the person did not complete the purchase or sale of the land...or never showed up to claim his/her papers. Women's names...I was told that women that had lost their husbands on the way could buy land; or if their husband died here, they legally got title to the land. There are never any dates on those records on internet but if you go to the land office, the dates and other details are in most of the documents. As soon as you have time to go to the Web Page for Bell county, check out the History of Bell Co....it will help you understand how the counties evolved and why you may need to search other counties...especially if your ancestors lived on the far sides of the counties close to county lines. A bit of History again... Ann, the MotorMouth -----Original Message----- From: MaryAnn Bartlett <bartlett@vvm.com> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:00 AM Subject: [TXBELL-L] ALLEN; ALLISON; BEARD; BIRD; FULCHER; HAYNES; POOLE; STONE; GRIFFIN |Granger City Cemetery |1/4 mile east of Granger |Williamson County, Texas (originally part of Milam County) |Canvassed by: Mrs. Henry LABAJ and Mrs. Ella HILL |Record located at: Teinert Memorial Library, Bartlett, Bell County, Texas |R Pamphlet |312.2 |GRA |------------------------------------------------- |BLOCK NAME |BIRTH DEATH |============================================================ |Page 1: |7 ALLEN, Mare Irene |0 9-12-1905 05-23-1966 |7 ALLEN, Hollis O. |01-05-1889 05-23-1996 |5 ALLEN, Lee O. |09-29-1907 08-06-1915 | (s/o L.E. and Dora ALLEN) |

Granger City Cemetery 1/4 mile east of Granger Williamson County, Texas (originally part of Milam County) Canvassed by: Mrs. Henry LABAJ and Mrs. Ella HILL Record located at: Teinert Memorial Library, Bartlett, Bell County, Texas R Pamphlet 312.2 GRA ------------------------------------------------- BLOCK NAME BIRTH DEATH ============================================================ Page 1: 7 ALLEN, Mare Irene 0 9-12-1905 05-23-1966 7 ALLEN, Hollis O. 01-05-1889 05-23-1996 5 ALLEN, Lee O. 09-29-1907 08-06-1915 (s/o L.E. and Dora ALLEN) 6 ALLISON, Nettie 10-07-1867 05-07-1931 7 ALLISON, Grover C. 10-30-1885 01-09-1928 7 ALLISON, Evie L. 03-04-1884 01-11-1971 Page 3: 7 BARRY, Will Joseph 11-13-1894 01-08-1971 (Veteran - WW I) 7 BEARD, Robert Carl 01-08-1884 02-21-1970 9 BEARD, Mary Lula 09-06-1891 09-21-1972 7 BEARD, Margaret Louise 10-09-1925 04-14-1937 7 BEARD, J.P. 07-06-1862 04-04-1893 7 BEARD, Nancy Ann 1866 01-08-1943 Page 4: 6 BIRD, John 02-08-1855 01-13-198 6 Bird, Lanvinia Augusta 08-23-1859 03-27-1950 6 BIRD, James Authur 10-29-1880 02-18-1950 6 BIRD, Dock 11-25-1893 04-01-1949 6 BIRD, Fred E. 07-23-1888 04-08-1920 6 BIRD, John W. 10-18-1891 02-23-1959 6 (Infant s/o John W.) 09-17-1911 09-18-1911 6 BIRD, R.A. 1876 1959 6 BIRD, ELISA 1876 1947 Page 16: FULCHER, F.T. 07-28-1839 09-19-1912 FULCHER, Emily H. ? 02-24-19(38) 12-24-1930 FULCHER, John T. 10-11-1897 01-12-1950 Page 18: 8 GRIFFIN, Thomas D. age 43 08-28-1919 Page 19: 7 HAYNES, Morrell Henry 10-8-1889 09-28-1965 7 HAYNES, Frank P. 01-01-1918 11-26-1942 (Veteran - WWII) 7 HAYNES, T.B. 01-26-1860 04-14-1956 7 HAYNES, Thelma Lou Sullivan 02-19-1916 04-14-1956 Page 23 JARRELL (Infant s.o J.M. & Aliva) b & d 02-25-1900 Page 30: 2 POOLE, Rachel B. 06-30-1832 04-30-1901 Page 31: 1 POOLE, Leake 09-02-1882 06-09-1891 or 1899 Page 37: No # STONE, Mattie 12-08-1860 09-10-1956

Ann, If you hop and skip over there would you please got one of the Latham Plot. Wait there is two of them, the one with L. C. and M. C. Latham, they are the parents of our Bell County Latham's. Thanks Debbie That cemetery is just hop, skip and jump from me so if anyone needs pictures of sites and I can get to them...it's done. Ann

Thanks...got it saved in a safe place now! Ann -----Original Message----- From: Possum <possum@gulftel.com> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:46 PM Subject: Fw: [TXBELL-L] Chalk: Robert Lewis; Whitfield, William Roscoe | |Mary Ann you sent this on the Chalk family on the 27th... |Debbie |---------- | | |Pg. 386 | |Robert Lewis Chalk | |Robert Lewis Chalk, son of William Roscoe Chalk and Frances Omsgy |Blackburn, |was born August 25, 1841, Maury County, Tennessee. He came to Bell County |with his parents in 1851. On November 18, 1861, he enlisted for Civil War |service at Belton as a private in Company F, 6th Texas Infantry, under |Captain H.E. Bradford. Later, he was promoted to corporal and then to |sergent. A regiment was organized at Victoria, with Colonel R.R. Garland |in |command. | |In spring 1862 the company marched to Arkansas Post, Arkansas and arrived |about September 1. He fought in the Battle of Arkansas Post and was |captured January 11, 1863, when the Confederate forces were defeated. He |was taken to Camp Butler Prison, near Springfield, Illinois, but escaped |and |joined the Missouri Volunteers, North Missouri, and was first lieutenant in |Captain Marion West's company. | |After the war, Chalk received a law degree at Lebanon, Tennessee. On |August |3, 1870, he married Anne Margaret Butcher in Comanche, Iowas, where she had |been born on August 16, 1851. Her family moved there from Randolph County, |West Virginia. Her parents were Edward G. Butcher and Sarah Ann Wilson of |Virginia. They were descendants of Honorable John Hart, who signed the |Declaration of Independence; Sir Warham St. Leger, a member of Virginia |House of Burgesses in 1609; and Governor Richard Bennett of Virginia. |After |their marriage, Robert Lewis Chalk practiced law in Belton for many years. |He was a Mason and the family were members of the Methodist Church. | |Children of this marriage were: Sarah Minna who married William Thomas |Scott II, then Harry Hyman; George Otis who married Mary Elizabeth Nunn; |Robert Lee; William Edward; and Lelia Blanche who married Robert Lee |Dalton. Mrs. Anne Butcher Chalk died December 25, 1891 and her marked |grave |is in South Belton Cemetery. | |On January 21, 1897, at Killeen, Chalk married Mrs. Sophia Walker Manning, |born January 22, 1862, in Bastrop. After their marriage, Chalk was mayor |of |Killeen for several years. One daughter, Nora Ethel, was born of this |union. She married William Frederick Page. Chalk died July 7, 1914, in |San |Antonio and his marked grave is in South Belton Cemetery. The second wife, |Sophia Manning Chalk, died in Killeen. By her previous marriage she had |one |daughter, Dell, who married J.M. Gray at Killeen on February 14, 1916. | | |Pgs. 386 - 387 |<Picture: "Major Whitfield Chalk served as the first sheriff of Williamson |County and in 1848 built the first mill on Salado Creek."> | |Whitfield Chalk | |Major Whitfield Chalk, son of William Chalk and Elizabeth Williams, was |born |April 2, 18ll, Hertford County, North Carolina. After being ordained a |minister in the Methodist Episcopal Church, he immigrated to Texas in 1833. |By 1842 he was a resident of the municipality of Milam. While living here |he served as a lieutenant in J.G.W. Fisher's company which repulsed Adrian |Woll"s invasion of San Antonio. | |On October 17, 1842, he enlisted for the Somervell Expedition and was |commissioned a major. He was a member of Mier Expedition and was among |those captured; however, he escaped with Caleb St. Clair from Mier on the |evening the Texans capitulated, December 25, 1842. They hid under stacks |of |cane and, after terrible hardships, finally returned home. | |Whitfield was commissioned a major on August 5, 1844, in Second Regiment, |First Brigade, Republic of Texas Militia, by General Sam Houston, President |of the Republic. While holding this office, Chalk married Mary Fleming on |August 9, 1847. | |For services rendered to the Republic of Texas, Chalk received a grant of |320 acres of land in Milam County. Evidently, after their marriage, the |Chalks resided in the western part of Milam County, which was later divided |into Williamson and Bell Counties. After Williamson County was created |March 13, 1848, Major Chalk became the first sheriff of the new county. | |Whe the census of 1850 was taken, Whitfield Chalk and family were listed in |Milam County, probably in that part which became Bell County on January 22, |1850. He gave his occupation as millwright. He and his brother, Ira, had |built the first mill on Salado Creek. The family was living in Bell County |in 1860 and he gave his occupation as milling. | |Later, this family lived in Brenham, Texas, and by 1873 were residents of |Lampasas County. He died May 19, 1902, in that county and his wife died |there on January 1, 1903. In 1944 the federal government erected a marble |marker at his grave commemorating his service in the Mexican War. Major |and |Mrs. Chalk were the parents of nine children. | |Page 387 | |William Roscoe Chalk | |William Roscoe Chalk, son of William Chalk and Elizabeth Williams, was born |August 28, 1816, Hertford County, North Carolina. Elizabeth was the |daughter of Rev. William Williams and Catherine Elizabeth Roscoe, who |pioneered from Tidewater, Virginia. The Chalks moved from North Carolina |to |Maury County, Tennessee, when our subject was a child and later he owned |502 |acres of land at the head of Cathey's Creek, District No. 1, Tenneessee. |Here, he was ordanined a Methodist Episcopal minister. | |Frances Omsby Blackburn and W.R. Chalk were married September 27, 1838, |Maury County, Tennessee. She was born there February 21, 1821, daughter of |Captain John Porter Blackburn and Nancy Churchwell. He fought with General |Andrew Jackson in the War of 1812. She was the granddaughter of Captain |Ambrose Blackburn of Revolutionary fame and whose ancestor was Colonel |Thomas Blackburn of Rippon Lodge, Virginia, eight miles from Mt. Vernon, |where Colonel Blackburn was buried in 1758. Two of his daughters married |nephews of Colonel George Washington and are buried at Mt. Vernon by |Washington's Tomb. | |This Chalk family moved to Bell County, Texas, in 1851. In the 1860 census |he was listed as a carpenter. During the Civil War he was appointed in |1864 |to the Home Guard. In the 1870 census he gave his occupation as farming. | |W.R. Chalk, a Master Mason, died March 4, 1893 in Belton, Texas and his |wife |died there on April 25, 1875. Their marked graves are in South Belton |Cemetery. Their family included the following children: Robert Lewis; |John |William Douglas who married Jennie Geneva Bell; Nancy Elizabeth; Virginia |Octavene who married William Taylor Lee; Ellis Blackburn who married Mrs. |W. |Bell; Mary Frances; Valera Katherine; and Florence Itaska who married John |David Earnest. | | | | |==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== |Please Keep Messages To Matters of Bell County Genealogy Or | History Interest! 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That cemetery is just hop, skip and jump from me so if anyone needs pictures of sites and I can get to them...it's done. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Possum <possum@gulftel.com> To: TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com <TXBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:10 PM Subject: [TXBELL-L] Re: Volo Cemetery |Hello everyone, | |We have added Volo Cemetery to the TX Bell County Archives. Lets keep |sending in that information and fill our Bell County pages up! | |http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/bell/belltoc.htm | |Thanks |Debbie | | | | | |==== TXBELL Mailing List ==== |RootsWeb Supports GenConnect |Help Support RootsWeb |http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html |