Vanessa, I knew Ella(cousin TOOT) and Robert(uncle BOB) Clemons. No one ever explained how we were related or why they called her cousin and him uncle. All my life they lived next door to Antioch Baptist Church in Hills Praire. Cousin Toots was an usher at the church.She some times sold shaved iced drinks to us kids. I can remember playing with her daughter Cat when I would visit my grandmother May Pearl Coleman Blaylock. Their sons are Sammie Lee, Robert , Marcus Kelly, and TC Clemons. I saw Robert on July 4th weekend at the Coleman family reunion. He's the oldest. Sam lives in Austin but I haven't talked to him since the 1999 family reunion. Also, there is a living Veal relative, Lily Veal, who is 101 years old . I plan to be in Bastrop tomorrow and I will take your list for her to look at. I hope that she will be able to tell me more about Ella and Robert Clemons. I recognized one other name Albert Kellough, although I don't know why at the moment. I will ask Aunt Mandy Kellough(96 years old) in Hills Prarie if she feels up to it. Cassie

Hi Cassie. My Clemons are descended from "Big Al" Alcie Clemons. One of his sons or grandsons married Ella Veal in 1932 in Bastrop. Big Alcie was the father of my great-grandmother, Juanita Clemons White Glover Wells. She was born in Feb 1896 and died in Feb 1972. Her sibling were: Estella, Little Alcie, Tom( (Marcellus), Hattie Bell, Lucy, Miriah, Alvira, Lonnie, Lillie, Mattie and Rosa. Some of these had moved to Williamson County by the 1920 Census. The highlighted marriages are family. Anyone look familiar to you? Do you recognize any of the others? Cert. Type/# Name Vol./Page # Date of Event Place of Event Marriage/? Bride:Lizzie Clemons; Groom:Charlie Lee E/152 27 Sep 1888 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Tascal Clemons; Groom Albert Kelough E/273 25 Oct 1889 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Nannie Clemons; Groom:R.A. Jones F/2 31 Dec 1890 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Lucy Clemons; Groom:Sam Hutchins I/486 3 Sep 1908 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Lillie Clemons; Groom:Walter Anderson J/373 30 Jun 1902 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Lucy Clemons; Groom:Albert Jones L/311 20 Dec 1916 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Maria Clemons; Groom:James Marshall L/317 26 Dec 1916 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Olivia Clemons; Groom:Edwin Smith L/440 20 Oct 1917 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Olivia Clemons; Groom:Wake Jones L/607 28 Jan 1919 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Olivia Clemons; Groom:Albert Stewart M/148 20 Mar 1920 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Julia Martin Clemons; Groom:Jason Dixon N/205 3 May 1924 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Mary Alice; Groom:Elvert Hunter Q/494 26 Apr 1942 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Bertha Lee Clemons; Groom:Lee R. Nelson R/279 6 May 1943 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Mrs. Alberta Clemons; Groom:Jerome Davis V(?)/520 25 Jan 1968 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Ruthie Mae Clemons; Groom:Charlie Lee Jackson V/588 25 Nov 1968 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Elizabeth Shors; Groom:George Clements A/266, 267 28 Jul 1866 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:R.C. Groves; Groom:E. J. Clemens B/262 13 Mar 1873 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Mary Graves; Groom:E.J. Clements C/175 3 Dec 1878 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Kate Kirkpatrick; Groom:Isaac Clements D/318 7 Jun 1885 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Mary Condrey; Groom:W.H. Clements E/370 17 Aug 1890 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Minnie Hunter; Groom:James Clements G/478 17 Sep 1899 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Francis Wilson; Groom:Alcie Clemens J/340 23 May 1912 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Savanah Hills; Lonnie Clemmons L/240 20 Aug 1916 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Ella Veal; Groom:Robert Clemons O/497 14 Jul 1932 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Alena Hig___?;Groom:James Clemons P/281 12 Jan 1935 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Norvelle Wesley; Groom:Andrew Clemons Q/227 18 Apr 1940 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Sarah Lee Flemings; Groom:Lonnie Clemons, Jr. Q/236 26 May 1940 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Rosie Lee Hayes; Groom: A.C. Clemons T/543 22 Jun 1952 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Orange Ree Haywood; Groom:Robert Clemons, Jr. T/583 21 Nov 1952 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Katie Nell Hodges; Groom:Willie Green Clemons W(?)486 19 Aug 1967 Bastrop County Marriage/? Bride:Darlene Cooper; Groom: Tommie Curtis Clemons X/291 24 Mar 1973 Bastrop County ---------- >From: CCASSIEGAL@aol.com >To: TXBASTRO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXBASTRO] African American Funeral Home >Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000, 7:54 PM > >Vanessa, >My name is Cassie and I'm african american. I have family in Bastrop >cnty(Slider,Hyder,Blaylock,& White) Mostly in Hills Prairie and Shiloh. I'm >writing because I recognise some of your names. We are related to the Clemons >and the Veals from Hills Prairie. >Also there is a funeral home in Smithville that has been around for quite >some time. It is Pendergrass Peoples Mortuary. The owner is Mrs. Clinton >Wright, a very nice lady. Her assistant is Eulene and she is very helpful but >there was no real filing system until she started there . She has offered to >search for some funeral programs for me. This could take a while because they >are not on the computer. > >Cassie >ccassiegal@aol.com > >

Anyone related to Milton or Billinglsey on the list? email me please thanks Lisa

I was wondering if anyone had any more information on the following two crimes thanks Lisa Sept 13 1875 TURK TURNER ambushed and killed W.B. CRADDOCK, known as "PEA EYE". W.B. was a good old man, and was an eye witness to Turk Turner stealing his cattle and had gone to file charges on TURK TURNER. The case was so sure to find TURNER guilty that TURNER'S lawyer advised him to kill the witness. This TURNER did. CRADDOCK'S body was found in the wagon at the gate the next morning. MR CRADDOCK is buried in the CRADDOCK CEMETRY near where he lived. 1876 ALLEN WYNN, a nephew of PRINT OLIVE was attacked and robbed while attempting to get medicine for a sick person. Wynn, pretending to be dead, over heard "Thad do you think he is dead?" Thad and others attack on WYNN prompted the PAT EARHART DANCE to be planned. I would appreciate any information thanks Lisa

Here is a link to what looks like an interesting website to track timelines of your ancesters. www.ourtimelines.com Haven't had time to try it out as am still checking my email after the trip. Tammy Owen Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator Bastropcc@aol.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html

My method: I put the last name of the subject, such as Tiner, then the first name then the date. I then put mine in the appropriate subdirectory for that family. What happens when I want to put them on a CD? I would have an index put on the CD, maybe with the ReadMe title. Not all programs let you use such a long name, but mine does so I'm lucky. I would say the best is to have a seperate file (readme file) with the information, such as when/where/who along with the file name. It could be Tiner001, Tiner002, or Petty001, Petty002, then at least you would have the last name. Or bring the photo up in paintbrush or another program and put a text box on it with the information. If you had to print the picture out, you can remove the text box at that time, then close without saving so the text box is back. Tammy Owen Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator Bastropcc@aol.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html

Judy, The Hemphills were the other ones, not the ones at Hemphill Bend but the ones in Red Rock. I haven't found a connection to the two yet. I'm from the Red Rock Hemphills. Tammy Owen Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator Bastropcc@aol.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html

Does anyone have a tried and true method for naming electronic files of scanned family photographs? I have several families and am looking for a simple way to name and identify each photo.

Tammy, Thanks so much for posting the article on the Confederates. It is especially interesting to me since Wm. Plummer is my great grandfather. I was recently looking at a picture of him in his uniform. Lou Anne Plummer Stachowiak

Tammy when you have a chance could you please send the index from "The Soul of a Small Town". thanks Lisa ---------- > From: Bastropcc@aol.com > To: TXBASTRO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TXBASTRO] Ex confederates 1908 > Date: August 5, 2000 11:04 PM > > I'm back to DC for the week so will be out of touch next week. I'll leave > you with this: > > EX-CONFEDERATES from the Bastrop advertiser 1908 > Adjutant Wm. Plummer, of the new J. D. Sayers' Camp, Ex-Confederates, of > Bastrop county, No. 825, Smithville, Texas, has kindly furnished the > ADVERTISER the following interesting, especially to ex-confederate soldiers, > history of the recently organized J. D. Sayers' Camp, with a complete report > of the original and present membership, together with the names of those who > have died or left the county, since the new organization of the Camp. This > issue of teh Advertiser containing the excellent, interesting, instructive > report of the Ex-Confederates of Bastrop county, should be carefully > preserved, for future reference, especially by the old soldiers and their > families, interested in the civil war, and the part their predecessors took > in that bloody war, in which, overpowered, by great numbers, forced to > surrender, were never conquered, and to the end of their lives, continue in > the belief they fought for their just rights. > ADJUTANT PLUMMER'S REPORT. > Aman, C, Co B 7th Miss, Cav. dead. > Brodnax, D. W. co D, 5th Texas mounted volunteers. Left the county > Cogdill, W. H., co H, 2nd NC Reg > Decherd, A. H., co B Elmore's Regt. Dead > Duce, M. G., co G 16th TX Inf. Dead > Eagleston, Z. P, co A Parson's Reg. Dead > Hill, D. O., co D TX CAV Dead > Hill, C. B, co I 16th TX > Harrison, O. P., Carter's Regt. Dead > Haynes, J. J, 7th TN, Left county > Hopkins, M. A., co K 1st TN CAV. Left the county > Jannessen, A., Fords CAV. Left county > Kesseuls, Wm, co A 3rd TX Inf. Dead > King, C. A. ? Left the county. > Lee, J. A, co I, 5th TX Mounted Vol. Dead > Massey, H, Co I Duff's MS Reft Left the county > Mayfield, Dr J. D. Army of VA, Left the county > Miller, A F, co C Waul's Legion Inf > Nash, J. O. > Pierce, J. T, co K, 19th MS, Harris Brgd, Left the county > Plummer, Wm, co F 2nd TX Rosses Brig. > Priest, R. F. co B 17th TX > Renick, J M, co C 1st TX CAV > Sawyer, R. T. co J 5th TX Mounted Vol. > Shipp, C. S, co A 10th TX CAV dead > Smith, E. A., co I 16th TX INF > Spears, Z T, co C 46th AL > Talley, F H, co B 4th TX CAV > Tiffany, L H, co F 17th TX, Scurry's Brig. Dead > Tyner, Louis, co C 2nd GA CAV (mygrgrgrandpa) > OFFICERS > Commander- MA Hopkins > 1st Lt Commander- JT Pierce > 2nd Lt Commander- R. T. Sawyer > Adjutant - Wm Plummer. > Quartermaster- F. H. Tally > Chaplain- JM Renick > Ensign- JO Nash > Officer of the Day- DW Brodnax > Vidette- MG Duce > COMMITTEE ON BYLAWS > MA Hopkins > CA King > AH Decherd > The above were the charter members and first officers of the McNeil Camp, > UCV, No. 825, of Smithville, TX, which was organized March 28th, 1896. On > March 20th, 1897, the name was changed from McNeil Camp to JD Sayers Camp. > The following names have been added to the Roster since its reorganization: > Anderson, ME, co D 12th TX CAV > Arbuckle, ME, Home Guards > Avery, N, 5th GA Regt > Bradshaw, SK, co A Hawthorne's ARK REg > Brawder, MV, co F 1st Al. Left county > Buckner, JW, Morgan's CAV > Burleson, EB, co D 12th TX CAV > Burleson, EW, co B 12th TX CAV > Burleson, WH, Left the county > Cain, TC, 2nd LT, co H 28th MS CAV > Campbell, Lucious, Forage Master, left the county. > Claiborne, JD, 59th TN Cav > Clemens, J, co A 5th AL > Colston, OG, co F 17th TX CAV > Connor, J, co D 8th TX Confederate home > Cox, RW, co D 8th AL CAV. Dead > Duran, JM, co H 4th TN CAV > Eastland, Wm, co B 17th TX Inf > Foxel, Wm, co C 32nd TX CAV > Franklin, WB, co A 6th ARK dead > French, BF, co F 17th TX CAV > Gallaspie, JJ, Scout, Left the county > Gill, Robt, co D 17th CAV > Glass, WS, co B 18th TX CAV > Grey, FK, co F 24th TX > Harold, R, co G 1st AR. Dead > Hill, JW, co D 8th TX CAV > Hill, TAW, co D 8th TX CAV > Hughes, MS, co B 12 TX > Kelley, DC co B 8th GA CAV. Left county (brother-in-law to Louis Tyner(Tiner). > Kelley, WL, co B 8th GA Cav (brother to DC above) > Lentz, GM, co D 12 TX CAV > Miller, JW, co K Duff's CAV > Moore, Dyer, co H Waller's Battallion > Moore, TK, co A Wood's Regt CAV > Morgan, Fred, co F 34th MS Inf > Moore, WC, co D 8th TX CAV, dead > McDonald, Tom, co F 17th TX Inf. dead > Owens, Wm, co H 8th TX CAV > Powell, GW, co G 16th TX Inf > Patty, WH, Left the county > Price, John F, co B 12th TX CAV. dead > Randel, EO, co I 29th TX CAV > Reid, JT, Dewitt's TX Bat > Reinhardt, GL, co C 4th Al Inf > Renolds, YA, Waddell's AL Arty > Rutherford, WB, co B 8th TX CAV > Scalons, FM, co D 2nd TX Bat > Scarbrough, WJ, co A 3rd AR > Scott, Abner, co F 31st TX CAV > Sims, SP, co D Waul's Inf Legion > Simpson, H, co A, 49th TN Inf > Smith, Joe N, co K 18th GA Inf > Smith, WJ, co D 12th TX CAV > Sowell, CB, co B 17th TX CAV > Stone, FA, co D 27th TX. In confederate home > Sanford, SD, co C 13th GA Inf. dead > Shultz, Welson, co I 16th TX. dead > Shearn, V, Kirby's TX Bat. Dead > Sharrell, SP, co D 29th MS Reg. Left the county > Walker, D, co A McCord's Reg > Watson, WH, co B 17th TX CAV > Wells, JC, co E 3rd TX Inf > Wilborn, GW, co H 9th TX Inf > Wilson, JS, co F 17th TX Inf > Wilson, WT, co G 11th TX Inf > Wilkins, WB, co D 17th Regmt. Left the county. > Wilkins, RT, co F 17th Reg. > Wolfenbarger, Guy, co D 12th TX CAV > Wroe, FM > Young, WH, co K 4th TN CAV > Young, JP. Scout. Dead > > The first Reunion of the JD Sayer's Camp, No. 825, (under present > organization, and different number from the first Bastrop organization) was > held at teh Fair Grounds, 1 1-2 miles on the South East of Bastrop, July 10th > and 11th, 1900. The Sixth Reunion was held on the same Bastrop Fair Grounds, > July 17th, 1907. The Seventh Annual Reunion will be held at Elgin, in 1908, > the exact date of which will be given in due time. > The Camp holds its regular monthly meetings on the first Sunday in each > month, convening at 2 o'clock, pm. > Wm. Plummer, Adj't > J. D. Sayers' Camp, UCV No 825, Smithville, Texas. > The records of the original JD Sayers' Camp, together with the roll of > membership has been lost, possibly burned in the fire that destroyed, after > his death, the residence of Adjutant J C Buchanan. It is known, by members > still living, that he was diligent in keeping the records and preserving the > roll of the Camp, and while there is no certainty of the records and roll > destroyed in the fire referred to, a careful search of his many years > business books, carefully preserved in his store building, failed to find the > Camp record or roll. Mr. Buchanan was Adjutant of the Camp from its > organization, taking interest in the discharge of his every duty as such, and > could this record and roll be found, would be correct and complete. > Headquarters have been written to and we may get a list of the members of the > original JD Sayer's Camp, and if received the ADVERTISER will publish it. > Since 1900, eight years, the members of the new camp who have answered last > roll call, and we hope, are now enjoying the happy fields beyond the skies, > number twenty, are as follows: > C. Aman, OH Decherd, MG Duce, ZP Eagleston, OP Harrison, Wm Kesselus, JA Lee, > CS Shipp, LH Tiffney, WB Franklin, R Harold, DO Hill, WC Moore, Tom McDonald, > John F Price, SD Sanford, Welson Shultz, V Shearn, JP Young and RW Cox. > In the Confederate Home, are two old members of the JD Sayers Camp, Comrades > JC Connor, and FA Stone, they express themselves well satisfied with the Home > treatment of the old soldiers. Big, kind hearted Jim Connor says, "They are > certainly making the closing days of us old Confederate boys as pleasant and > enjoyable as it is possible to make them. The officers look after the health > and happiness of the inmates of the Home to a certainty, and I am contented > and happy." > The sixteen members who have left county since organization of our camp, are > DW Brodnax, JJ Haynes, MA Hopkins, CA King, H ?lassey, Dr. J. D. Mayfield, J. > Pierce, WH Burleson, Lucious Campbell, JJ Gillaspie, A Zannessen, MV Brawner, > DC Kelley, WH Patty, SP Sherrell, and WB Wilkins. Sixteen in number. > There are a number of old members of the first JD Sayers Camp, organized many > years ago at Bastrop, ar not, but should be, enrolled on the new list of the > JD Sayers Camp at Smithville. This is probably from an unintentional neglect. > How true it is, "The young MAY die; the old MUST die. It has been nearly > fourty-five years since the close of the civil war, hence the average > ex-confederate, even the youngest, are not near three-score-and-ten, hence > all should lose no time in placing their names on Camp Sayers rolls....... > > Tammy Owen > Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator > Bastropcc@aol.com > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html > > > ==== TXBASTRO Mailing List ==== > To send a post to the BASTROP COUNTY, TEXAS list, > send your message to TXBASTRO-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Part 1 of 8 (Tell me at any time if you would like me to stop) Lisa Shoot-out On Christmas Day Luckett P. Bishop Frontier Times July 1964 vol. 33. No.4, New Series No. 36 It was a day of violence- that Christmas of 1883 at McDade. Homes were decorated with the traditional boughs of green-but the streets ran red with blood. Luckett P Bishop >From 1863 to 1883, lawlessness prevailed in Bastrop, Williamson and Lee Counties in Texas, especially in the area where the three counties join. Bastrop County points into Williamson and Lee like a Comanche Indian's arrowhead. It was in and around this location that the Notch-Cutters plied their trade. My sole motive in relating this story is to correct existing published versions of one of the bloodiest street-gun fights that ever occurred in Texas. The odds were six to two. It took place in McDade, in Bastrop County, about 10:30 on Christmas morning, 1883. It was held in true Yegua Notch-Cutter's fashion-that of heavy odds by obtaining fixed positions, all within Colt. 45 pistol range, pre-arranged and executed according to plan. Yet the plan failed! In this open street fight the two men they had marked for death escaped without a single scratch. Some thirty-five to forty-five shots were exchanged. When the gunsmoke had cleared away, two men lay dead in the street, and four were wounded (one was to die the next day). My father Thomas P Bishop, and his personal benefactor and true friend, George Milton, had rung down the final curtain on outlawry in the McDade area. Eighty years have passed and you might ask, "Why write this story?" Well, as each Christmas season approaches, a new version is related. It is always different. Bishop and Milton children are still alive today, some in Bastrop, McDade, San Antonio and Beaumont, Texas. These children know the true facts. While we are proud people we do not glorify gunplay and bloodshed. Not a single shot ever fired by Thomas P. Bishop or George Milton at any one of the six men involved, prior to the final showdown. Since the McDade fight, not a single shot has been fired at any of the families of those who were involved. Et the sons of those who were killed and wounded and the sons of the Bishops and Miltons have resided and still do reside in Bastrop County. No feud has ever existed between the Bishops and Miltons and the Goodmans, Hasleys, Stephens, and three Beatty brothers (Jack, Haywood and Asbury). Then why the gunfight? This is a good question and of all the newspapers that published the story, not a single one raised this point. It was not asked at the trial. It was said that a week before the showdown, Bishop and Asbury Beatty almost had a gunfight, but friends averted it. The facts are, the writers and reporters did not know the true story. They published information taken from persons who did not know, or were not in McDade, Texas, that Christmas morning when guns were being shot and hot lead was flying through the air. Their reports were based mostly on hearsay. The question always arises as to why life was so cheap in Texas. My contention is that conditions-the environment and hardships with which the early settlers of Texas and Bastrop County had to contend-were the primary reasons. Our grandparents and great-grandparents paid a heavy toll of life for the peace and security that we enjoy today. Our early settlers had to learn the lesson of "survival", which is the first law of nature, be it to man or beast. Santa Anna never forgot the part played by the citizens of Bastrop in the revolution against Mexico. Accordingly, in his pursuit of the Texas Army he sent one column of troops to Bastrop to wreak vengeance on its inhabitants. The town was partly burned and the women and children driven away. This was a part of the "runaway scrape". The survivors never forgot that while one hand guided the plow, the other might be forced to handle the rifle and pistol to protect life and property. In and around these hills starts Yegua Creek. Indians infested its thickets. Records of the land grants made to families in June 1831, in the Department of Brazos, Division of Mina, represent this area. Thee records also reveal the names of many families who lost one or more members at the hands of the Comanches. The average settler cleared the land as he built his cabin. He was never out of reach of his rifle and pistol. His wife and children always went along with the father. They could expect to have to fight the Indians, who came on raiding parties from what is now Coryell County, the Owl Creek country. They swept across the rolling prairies of Williamson County, through the Yegua section into the Knobs section of Bastrop County, into Old Mina (now Bastrop), and on to settlements as far south as La Grange. They were intent on burning, murdering, scalping, and stealing horses.

I saw the mention of the Hemphills and Jesse James and was wondering which Hemphills these were. We descend from the Marcus L Hemphill and Mary Rogers line through their daughter Dora. Is this the same family? Judy > > >

One question, who is this Jenkins sheriff. I can't find him in any lawmen of texas sites? thanks Lisa ---------- > From: Bastropcc@aol.com > To: TXBASTRO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TXBASTRO] McDade > Date: August 5, 2000 12:34 AM > > > --part1_4a.928c13b.26bcf356_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Sorry gang, thought the email went to all, but just came to me. Here's a > great story about growing up in McDade. At the end, Mr Taylor is looking for > old pictures of McDade to pass to his grandchildren and their children. > Anyone have any to share with him? Have one to scan so I can put it on the > website? > > Tammy Owen > Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator > Bastropcc@aol.com > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html > > --part1_4a.928c13b.26bcf356_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <rtaylor@tstar.net> > Received: from rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (rly-yh05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.37]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:07:46 -0400 > Received: from orion.tstar.net (orion.tstar.net [207.13.78.4]) by rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:07:19 -0400 > Received: from tstar.net (dial10-20.tstar.net [198.68.205.227]) > by orion.tstar.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11674 > for <Bastropcc@aol.com>; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:07:16 -0500 (CDT) > Message-ID: <398B4CBB.F20FEFF4@tstar.net> > Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:07:40 -0500 > From: Roger Taylor <rtaylor@tstar.net> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: Bastropcc@aol.com > Subject: McDade Christmas Shoot Out 1883 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I would like to thank every one who had any part of furnishing the > information about this incident. I was born in the country about four > miles from McDade out toward the Knobbs. All my life I have heard this > story but never had the opportunity to read this information. During the > 1930s Sometimes I would ride in a wagon with my grandfather to his > fields when he worked the crops. As I was a kid at the time, I ask him > why he always had a pistol under a tow sack in the seat of the wagon by > his side. He would say "there used to be a lot of out laws in this part > of the country and there still could be some around and he just wanted a > little protection just in case." He told me his father was robbed > several times after taking his cotton to McDade and sold it. He would > only take one bale at a time to sell for on the way back home you were > more likely than not be robbed before you got home. I have no idea if > this is true but my grandfather told me the "Masons AF & AM" are the > people who finally tamed the area down and brought law and order to > McDade. He stated they were the only people in the McDade area who could > trust each other. As I understand he and his father were both Masons. I > have ancestors from McDade who married members of the Milton and Bishop > families mentioned in the story. > > It was a shame to see McDade go down hill so bad for in the 1930s, when > I was a youngster, it was quite a town. There was a cotton gin, two > banks, a post office, the Williams jug factory, a lumber yard, a drug > store, a mercantile store, two or three grocery stores, a blacksmith > shop, a barber shop, a livery stable, a hotel, two or > > > ==== TXBASTRO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send an email with only the word unsubscribe in the body of the email to TXBASTRO-L-request@rootsweb.com (or TXBASTRO-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest list) > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

I'm back to DC for the week so will be out of touch next week. I'll leave you with this: EX-CONFEDERATES from the Bastrop advertiser 1908 Adjutant Wm. Plummer, of the new J. D. Sayers' Camp, Ex-Confederates, of Bastrop county, No. 825, Smithville, Texas, has kindly furnished the ADVERTISER the following interesting, especially to ex-confederate soldiers, history of the recently organized J. D. Sayers' Camp, with a complete report of the original and present membership, together with the names of those who have died or left the county, since the new organization of the Camp. This issue of teh Advertiser containing the excellent, interesting, instructive report of the Ex-Confederates of Bastrop county, should be carefully preserved, for future reference, especially by the old soldiers and their families, interested in the civil war, and the part their predecessors took in that bloody war, in which, overpowered, by great numbers, forced to surrender, were never conquered, and to the end of their lives, continue in the belief they fought for their just rights. ADJUTANT PLUMMER'S REPORT. Aman, C, Co B 7th Miss, Cav. dead. Brodnax, D. W. co D, 5th Texas mounted volunteers. Left the county Cogdill, W. H., co H, 2nd NC Reg Decherd, A. H., co B Elmore's Regt. Dead Duce, M. G., co G 16th TX Inf. Dead Eagleston, Z. P, co A Parson's Reg. Dead Hill, D. O., co D TX CAV Dead Hill, C. B, co I 16th TX Harrison, O. P., Carter's Regt. Dead Haynes, J. J, 7th TN, Left county Hopkins, M. A., co K 1st TN CAV. Left the county Jannessen, A., Fords CAV. Left county Kesseuls, Wm, co A 3rd TX Inf. Dead King, C. A. ? Left the county. Lee, J. A, co I, 5th TX Mounted Vol. Dead Massey, H, Co I Duff's MS Reft Left the county Mayfield, Dr J. D. Army of VA, Left the county Miller, A F, co C Waul's Legion Inf Nash, J. O. Pierce, J. T, co K, 19th MS, Harris Brgd, Left the county Plummer, Wm, co F 2nd TX Rosses Brig. Priest, R. F. co B 17th TX Renick, J M, co C 1st TX CAV Sawyer, R. T. co J 5th TX Mounted Vol. Shipp, C. S, co A 10th TX CAV dead Smith, E. A., co I 16th TX INF Spears, Z T, co C 46th AL Talley, F H, co B 4th TX CAV Tiffany, L H, co F 17th TX, Scurry's Brig. Dead Tyner, Louis, co C 2nd GA CAV (mygrgrgrandpa) OFFICERS Commander- MA Hopkins 1st Lt Commander- JT Pierce 2nd Lt Commander- R. T. Sawyer Adjutant - Wm Plummer. Quartermaster- F. H. Tally Chaplain- JM Renick Ensign- JO Nash Officer of the Day- DW Brodnax Vidette- MG Duce COMMITTEE ON BYLAWS MA Hopkins CA King AH Decherd The above were the charter members and first officers of the McNeil Camp, UCV, No. 825, of Smithville, TX, which was organized March 28th, 1896. On March 20th, 1897, the name was changed from McNeil Camp to JD Sayers Camp. The following names have been added to the Roster since its reorganization: Anderson, ME, co D 12th TX CAV Arbuckle, ME, Home Guards Avery, N, 5th GA Regt Bradshaw, SK, co A Hawthorne's ARK REg Brawder, MV, co F 1st Al. Left county Buckner, JW, Morgan's CAV Burleson, EB, co D 12th TX CAV Burleson, EW, co B 12th TX CAV Burleson, WH, Left the county Cain, TC, 2nd LT, co H 28th MS CAV Campbell, Lucious, Forage Master, left the county. Claiborne, JD, 59th TN Cav Clemens, J, co A 5th AL Colston, OG, co F 17th TX CAV Connor, J, co D 8th TX Confederate home Cox, RW, co D 8th AL CAV. Dead Duran, JM, co H 4th TN CAV Eastland, Wm, co B 17th TX Inf Foxel, Wm, co C 32nd TX CAV Franklin, WB, co A 6th ARK dead French, BF, co F 17th TX CAV Gallaspie, JJ, Scout, Left the county Gill, Robt, co D 17th CAV Glass, WS, co B 18th TX CAV Grey, FK, co F 24th TX Harold, R, co G 1st AR. Dead Hill, JW, co D 8th TX CAV Hill, TAW, co D 8th TX CAV Hughes, MS, co B 12 TX Kelley, DC co B 8th GA CAV. Left county (brother-in-law to Louis Tyner(Tiner). Kelley, WL, co B 8th GA Cav (brother to DC above) Lentz, GM, co D 12 TX CAV Miller, JW, co K Duff's CAV Moore, Dyer, co H Waller's Battallion Moore, TK, co A Wood's Regt CAV Morgan, Fred, co F 34th MS Inf Moore, WC, co D 8th TX CAV, dead McDonald, Tom, co F 17th TX Inf. dead Owens, Wm, co H 8th TX CAV Powell, GW, co G 16th TX Inf Patty, WH, Left the county Price, John F, co B 12th TX CAV. dead Randel, EO, co I 29th TX CAV Reid, JT, Dewitt's TX Bat Reinhardt, GL, co C 4th Al Inf Renolds, YA, Waddell's AL Arty Rutherford, WB, co B 8th TX CAV Scalons, FM, co D 2nd TX Bat Scarbrough, WJ, co A 3rd AR Scott, Abner, co F 31st TX CAV Sims, SP, co D Waul's Inf Legion Simpson, H, co A, 49th TN Inf Smith, Joe N, co K 18th GA Inf Smith, WJ, co D 12th TX CAV Sowell, CB, co B 17th TX CAV Stone, FA, co D 27th TX. In confederate home Sanford, SD, co C 13th GA Inf. dead Shultz, Welson, co I 16th TX. dead Shearn, V, Kirby's TX Bat. Dead Sharrell, SP, co D 29th MS Reg. Left the county Walker, D, co A McCord's Reg Watson, WH, co B 17th TX CAV Wells, JC, co E 3rd TX Inf Wilborn, GW, co H 9th TX Inf Wilson, JS, co F 17th TX Inf Wilson, WT, co G 11th TX Inf Wilkins, WB, co D 17th Regmt. Left the county. Wilkins, RT, co F 17th Reg. Wolfenbarger, Guy, co D 12th TX CAV Wroe, FM Young, WH, co K 4th TN CAV Young, JP. Scout. Dead The first Reunion of the JD Sayer's Camp, No. 825, (under present organization, and different number from the first Bastrop organization) was held at teh Fair Grounds, 1 1-2 miles on the South East of Bastrop, July 10th and 11th, 1900. The Sixth Reunion was held on the same Bastrop Fair Grounds, July 17th, 1907. The Seventh Annual Reunion will be held at Elgin, in 1908, the exact date of which will be given in due time. The Camp holds its regular monthly meetings on the first Sunday in each month, convening at 2 o'clock, pm. Wm. Plummer, Adj't J. D. Sayers' Camp, UCV No 825, Smithville, Texas. The records of the original JD Sayers' Camp, together with the roll of membership has been lost, possibly burned in the fire that destroyed, after his death, the residence of Adjutant J C Buchanan. It is known, by members still living, that he was diligent in keeping the records and preserving the roll of the Camp, and while there is no certainty of the records and roll destroyed in the fire referred to, a careful search of his many years business books, carefully preserved in his store building, failed to find the Camp record or roll. Mr. Buchanan was Adjutant of the Camp from its organization, taking interest in the discharge of his every duty as such, and could this record and roll be found, would be correct and complete. Headquarters have been written to and we may get a list of the members of the original JD Sayer's Camp, and if received the ADVERTISER will publish it. Since 1900, eight years, the members of the new camp who have answered last roll call, and we hope, are now enjoying the happy fields beyond the skies, number twenty, are as follows: C. Aman, OH Decherd, MG Duce, ZP Eagleston, OP Harrison, Wm Kesselus, JA Lee, CS Shipp, LH Tiffney, WB Franklin, R Harold, DO Hill, WC Moore, Tom McDonald, John F Price, SD Sanford, Welson Shultz, V Shearn, JP Young and RW Cox. In the Confederate Home, are two old members of the JD Sayers Camp, Comrades JC Connor, and FA Stone, they express themselves well satisfied with the Home treatment of the old soldiers. Big, kind hearted Jim Connor says, "They are certainly making the closing days of us old Confederate boys as pleasant and enjoyable as it is possible to make them. The officers look after the health and happiness of the inmates of the Home to a certainty, and I am contented and happy." The sixteen members who have left county since organization of our camp, are DW Brodnax, JJ Haynes, MA Hopkins, CA King, H ?lassey, Dr. J. D. Mayfield, J. Pierce, WH Burleson, Lucious Campbell, JJ Gillaspie, A Zannessen, MV Brawner, DC Kelley, WH Patty, SP Sherrell, and WB Wilkins. Sixteen in number. There are a number of old members of the first JD Sayers Camp, organized many years ago at Bastrop, ar not, but should be, enrolled on the new list of the JD Sayers Camp at Smithville. This is probably from an unintentional neglect. How true it is, "The young MAY die; the old MUST die. It has been nearly fourty-five years since the close of the civil war, hence the average ex-confederate, even the youngest, are not near three-score-and-ten, hence all should lose no time in placing their names on Camp Sayers rolls....... Tammy Owen Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator Bastropcc@aol.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html

Excellent book, a lot of history on all aspects of McDade. ---------- > From: BURNSFRED@cs.com > To: TXBASTRO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXBASTRO] McDade > Date: August 5, 2000 4:28 PM > > In a message dated 8/4/00 11:37:49 PM Central Daylight Time, > Bastropcc@aol.com writes: > > << aol >> > Re: Mcdade. New book just being published by Univ. of Oklahoma Press. > Author ---David Wharton, "The Soul of a Small Texas Town : Photographs, > Memories and History From McDade." Can be ordered at 1-800-627-7377. > > > ==== TXBASTRO Mailing List ==== > BASTROP COUNTY, TEXAS GenWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

More from the page with Zeno Hemphill's death: Miss Susie Johnson, we learn, is rapidly convalescing, and much praise is due Drs. Cunningham and J. D. Oliver for their skillful and successful treatment of the dangerous wound. The ball has been extracted and the physicians discontinued their visits last Monday. S. W. Givens of Cedar Creek, was in town Tuesday, called at the Avertiser office and arranged for another year's subscription to the Advertiser. He reports a horse shot on the creek by some unknown parties and that while every effort will and should be made to find out and bring to punishment the perpetrators of this mischief, he requests the Advertiser to state that while the good people of the neighborhood will be sure they are right before acting, others should be very careful in getting solid proof before accusing innocent parties of the mischief. MARRIED: At McDade, January 2, 1884. Mr J. W. Westbrook and Mrs. Maggie Cook, Rev. W. A. Buchanan, officiating. The best wishes of the Advertiser attend the couple through life. Now is your time for a box heating stove, only a few left, and they must be sold to make room for other goods, EARHARD & CLOPTON. Esquire J. R. Joyner, of beat No. 8, has changed his residence from near Caldwell's Mill, to Cedar Creek, near Givens' store. Persons living in that beat should make a note of the above change. LAST CHANCE PLEASE TAKE NOTICE As I will remain here only two weeks longer, I would advise all who want good photographs to call at once. Photographs taken in all kinds of weather, so do not wait until the last minute. Respectfully, J. Rice, Photo Artist OBITUARY JAMES F WALTON James F Walton was born near Aberdeen, MS, February 6th, 1844, and died at Austin, Texas, January 6, 1884. He came with his mother's family from Mississippi to Bastrop, and was a short time a resident of this place, where he made many friends by his kind disposition and genial manners. He was married 11/15/1872 and has since this time made his hoem in Bell county. We tender our sympathy to the family of the seceased, Devoted wife, fond mother, sister, brothers be conforted. Jesus say to his weeping disciples "Let not your hearts be troubled" and "In my Father's house are many mansions." A place of one of those mansions has been prepared for your loved one, and free from pain, sorrow and sickness, he awaits your coming. Another link has been severed on earth, Another tie binds you to heaven. Bottom part of article: We had a small fire on the night of the 6th last, destroying every thing in the house and furnishing line of Mr. Wm Jones. Mr. Jones was absent from home at the time of the accident, and his wife, Mrs. Lul? S. Jones, Miss Lillia Jones and Mr. Tolbert, visiting from McDade, bearly escaped with their lives. The citizens of Elgin have contributed liberally of their means to the unfortunate ones and they are again placed in comfortable condition. Elgin is building up very rapidly and bids fair, ere long, to be a prosperous little city. Our school failed to open Monday owing to the severe cold weather but the prospect is good for a fine school. Prof.A. H. Carter taught the last session of our public school, giving satisfaction to all its patrons. He will soon begin another five months session. Right here it will do well to say that persons having children to educate would do well to visit the point, where they will find a healthy location, cheap board and efficient instruction. With proper enterprise on the part of the people of Elgin we can have a school, second to no high school in the state. Elgin though formerly infested with outlaws, has been purged and the place filled with enterprising citizens. Our village is well supplied with physicians, there being six residents of this place. Dr. J. D. Oliver, recently of Red Rock, this county, building a fine residence, which means that he has come to stay among us. Elgin, in fact, is keeping apace with the most prosperous small town of the state, which may be seen at a glance by those visiting us and hearing the busy clamor of the saw and hammer. Nor is this progress confined alone, to the town, for we see many beautiful residences going up in many points of the surrounding country. More Anon. Tammy Owen Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator Bastropcc@aol.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html

Here'es an article from the Bastrop advertiser 1/1884 about the death of Zeno Hemphill. I have 7 Zeno Hemphill's in my database none with 1884 as date of death. The 7 I have are: b. abt 1921 son of Charlie Wade and Wagie Ellen Carter Hemphill b. abt 1914 son of John Coleman and Carrie Francis Edwards Hemphill 10/26/1852 son of Marcus Lafayette and Mary Rogers Hemphill. This one died in Abilene. b. 1869 (Zeno Croft) son of Joseph Rogers and Sarah Hoskins Hemphill b. 2/22/1902 (Zeno Emry) son of Zeno Croft b. 11/11/1813 (Zeno Jackson) son of William and Lucretia Coleman Hemphill 1/4/1884 (Zeno Lafayette) son of Marcus Deshay and Caroline Miller. None of these have a death date of 1884 so who does this Zeno belong to? ZENO HEMPHILL KILLED. A special telegram from Abilene, Texas, to the Houston Post, of Jan. 8th, says: "A deadly encounter with pistols took place today in the Cattle Exchange Bar room between Zeno Hemphill and the two Collins brothers, Walter and Frank. Hemphill and Walter Collins are both dead and Frank is not expected to live. The dispute grew out of the city ordinance prohibiting gambling in the city. Walter Collins was one of the city aldermen. Later telegrams state that Frank Collins, as a member of the City Council, had taken an active part in trying to suppress gambling. For this, Hemphill attacked Collins, and after passing several hard words at each other, Hemphill struck Collins in the face with his fist, when Collins' drew a pistol and presented it at Hemphill's head. At this critical time young Walter Collins, a deputy marshal, rushed in between them, knocked his brother's pistol up, pushed the two angry men apart, and commanded them both to desist and to make no disturbance. During the confusion incident to this interruption Hemphill instantly drew his pistol and shot Walter Collins through the breast, just below the heart. Then the deadly combat began between Hamphill and Frank Collins, both parties emptying their revolvers. When the firing eased, all three men were found lying upon the floor, weltering in their blood, Hemphill with five or six bullte holes in his body one throught the heart, and two in his head, from which he instantly died. Walter Collins received but one shot, in the heart, and died in half an hour afterward. Frank Collins received four wounds, one in the breast, one in the small of the back, one in the hip and thigh, and one through the hand. Hemphill was shot in seven places, five of which were mortal wounds. He fired six shots at the two Collins' five of which took effect--one in Walter and four in Frank. Walter Collins fired four shots after he fell, and Frank emptied his revolver making ten shots fired at Hemphill. It will be remembered that Zeno Hemphill killed Rose Breeding, at the Red Light, in Abilene, last year, was tried at the last term of court at that place, the trial resulting in a hung jury. Zeno Hemphill and deputy marshal Walter Collins, were buried Tuesday, a large concourse of persons following each to the cemetery. Tammy Owen Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator Bastropcc@aol.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html

In a message dated 8/4/00 11:37:49 PM Central Daylight Time, Bastropcc@aol.com writes: << aol >> Re: Mcdade. New book just being published by Univ. of Oklahoma Press. Author ---David Wharton, "The Soul of a Small Texas Town : Photographs, Memories and History From McDade." Can be ordered at 1-800-627-7377.

haha i got tammy addicted to ebay.....(lisa sings this line in a childish manner lol) ---------- > From: Bastropcc@aol.com > To: TXBASTRO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TXBASTRO] C. W. Bradbury > Date: August 5, 2000 12:51 AM > > If anyone is related to a C. W. Bradbury there is a letter written by him for > sale on ebay, right now for $1, written in 1900. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=398579045 > > Tammy Owen > Bastrop CO, TX Coordinator > Bastropcc@aol.com > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbastro/bastrop.htm > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~txtammy/bastrop/bastropmain.html > > > ==== TXBASTRO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send an email with only the word unsubscribe in the body of the email to TXBASTRO-L-request@rootsweb.com (or TXBASTRO-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest list) > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/