The ETGS newsletter "The Bulletin" for June 2008 is now available at: http://www.etgs.org/publications/the_bulletin/2008/200809.pdf Watch for any wrapping of the URL. Larry Lawrence E. Oliver ETGS Web Master

Scott Fitzerald, I saw the recent email about the ETGS luncheon 8/28/08. I would appreciate very much if you could put me in contact with someone who would do some genealogical research at the courthouse in Palestine. I am attempting to develop any records whatsoever on a Nathaniel P Newbill who lived in Anderson county 1860 to death in 1886 or 1887. He lived at Plentitude and Palestine as a farmer possibly near Mound Prairie road. He had a wife and 3 kids. I have quite a lot of info. that I can share to make this endeavor a little easier. I can not find a record of his burial and cemetery. Any info that you can supply to me regarding an individual that could help me. Many thanks, BEV C Davis (Mr) 14041 County Line Road Keysville, Va. 23947 434 223 4718. -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Fitzgerald Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:41 AM To: ETGS Mailing List Subject: [TX-ETGS] Luncheon 8/28/08 East Texas Genealogical Society Get-acquainted Luncheon Thursday, August 28, 2008 (normally the 4th Thursday) We start getting there about 11:30 a.m. We finish at 1:30 p.m. or earlier or later, depending on everyone's schedule. Where: at Heartland Ham Co., 3400-A South Broadway, Tyler TX (corner of Amherst & Broadway). What to eat: Soups, sandwiches, special lunches, & excellent desserts. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Scott Fitzgerald - scottfitzgerald@tyler.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

East Texas Genealogical Society Get-acquainted Luncheon Thursday, August 28, 2008 (normally the 4th Thursday) We start getting there about 11:30 a.m. We finish at 1:30 p.m. or earlier or later, depending on everyone's schedule. Where: at Heartland Ham Co., 3400-A South Broadway, Tyler TX (corner of Amherst & Broadway). What to eat: Soups, sandwiches, special lunches, & excellent desserts. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Scott Fitzgerald - scottfitzgerald@tyler.net

I VOTE FOR BROOM MAKING

One of my cousins in North Carolina tells methat the photo looks like one that he has of a machinethat was used to sew straw hats,bags,mats etc. Thereneeded to be a stiff form ring to stictch around and this is what the reed looking things are supposed to be.His wife emailed the photo to a natural history magazine/TVshow in hopes that she will get a definitive answer.Karen Kerr

The bundle below resembles the reeds seen in the Old Bullard photo. Naomi J Broom Straw by Michelle Lyle, www.flickr.com   

Take a look - Google - "Bill Carter's Old Broom Making Machines" and see what you think, Rex. Looks very similar. Janice Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Kirby" <rex@tyler.net> To: <tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo > If these are old water pumps they all need repairing since they seem to be > missing the pump handle as well as a few other parts. > > Rex Kirby > > -----Original Message----- > From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Joan Davis > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:45 PM > To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo > > HI, Very simple. A collection of old water pumps. We use to use these type > pumps many years ago when I was a kid. BEV. C. Davis > > -----Original Message----- > From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Scott Fitzgerald > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:25 AM > To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com; txsmith@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo > > Hi Trevia > > Here is the response that I sent to TXGEN list: > > Hi Gina, > > To me it looks like a bunch of hand crank water pumps. I am not sure what > the pan thing next to the pump is - maybe a filter or chemical treatment. > Unless I am mistaken it says Bullard Texas which south of Tyler. I also > see > the bows and fiddles that Jane mentioned[in another e-mail]. Could it be > something like a barn raising? > > I am going to forward the message to the Smith County list and see if > anyone > there has any ideas. > > Scott > >> >> Interesting photo. went to the Handbook of Texas on line to see if there >> might be a clue .... >> >> BULLARD, TEXAS. Bullard, also known as Etna and Hewsville, is on the St. >> Louis Southwestern Railway at the intersection of U.S. Highway 69 and >> Farm >> roads 2493, 2137, and 344, twelve miles south of Tyler in extreme >> southern >> Smith County. >> >> Possible?? *** A movie theater had opened, and a band also >> provided >> entertainment. **** >> >> And an interesting note: A traveling jail, seven feet in diameter and >> made >> of a barred round tank on wheels, held prisoners until the county sheriff >> could escort them to Tyler. >> >> Trevia Wooster Beverly >> Houston, Texas > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looks kind of like the one in the photo. : ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fitzgerald" <scottfitzgerald@tyler.net> To: "ETGS Mailing List" <TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Smith County List" <TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo -----Original Message----- From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gina Heffernan Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:00 PM To: TXGenWeb List Subject: [TXGEN] Old Photo Does anyone know what's going on in this photo? or maybe the time period? http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original Gina Heffernan Rusk Co, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also don't see a water spout... Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Kirby" <rex@tyler.net> To: <tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo > If these are old water pumps they all need repairing since they seem to be > missing the pump handle as well as a few other parts. > > Rex Kirby > > -----Original Message----- > From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Joan Davis > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:45 PM > To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo > > HI, Very simple. A collection of old water pumps. We use to use these type > pumps many years ago when I was a kid. BEV. C. Davis > > -----Original Message----- > From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Scott Fitzgerald > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:25 AM > To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com; txsmith@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo > > Hi Trevia > > Here is the response that I sent to TXGEN list: > > Hi Gina, > > To me it looks like a bunch of hand crank water pumps. I am not sure what > the pan thing next to the pump is - maybe a filter or chemical treatment. > Unless I am mistaken it says Bullard Texas which south of Tyler. I also > see > the bows and fiddles that Jane mentioned[in another e-mail]. Could it be > something like a barn raising? > > I am going to forward the message to the Smith County list and see if > anyone > there has any ideas. > > Scott > >> >> Interesting photo. went to the Handbook of Texas on line to see if there >> might be a clue .... >> >> BULLARD, TEXAS. Bullard, also known as Etna and Hewsville, is on the St. >> Louis Southwestern Railway at the intersection of U.S. Highway 69 and >> Farm >> roads 2493, 2137, and 344, twelve miles south of Tyler in extreme >> southern >> Smith County. >> >> Possible?? *** A movie theater had opened, and a band also >> provided >> entertainment. **** >> >> And an interesting note: A traveling jail, seven feet in diameter and >> made >> of a barred round tank on wheels, held prisoners until the county sheriff >> could escort them to Tyler. >> >> Trevia Wooster Beverly >> Houston, Texas > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

please remove me from the list ... there's been at least 20 e-mails today on this one matter and it's too invasive and disruptive and annoying after a period of time .. especially when one is attempting to accomplish other things I agree with the poster that they are old water pumps ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen K<mailto:kerrweinc2002@yahoo.com> To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com<mailto:tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo I guess part of the photo may look like the old water pumps, but none of the photos on google look similar to the round or sperical shape that is on the side of the pump. It almost looks like a flat pan with a lid on it. I did not see anything similar on google. Can you explain what the pan type thing is. It is too flat to be a basin of any type. Karen Kerr --- On Tue, 8/19/08, MBLanier_1@msn.com<mailto:MBLanier_1@msn.com> <MBLanier_1@msn.com<mailto:MBLanier_1@msn.com>> wrote: From: MBLanier_1@msn.com<mailto:MBLanier_1@msn.com> <MBLanier_1@msn.com<mailto:MBLanier_1@msn.com>> Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com<mailto:tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 4:57 PM with all this speculation, why doesn't someone simply use Google images it's so easy even a caveman can do it http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2<http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2<http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2<http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2>> as one poster said, they appear to be old water pumps ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Pike<mailto:bnb549@embarqmail.com<mailto:bnb549@embarqmail.com>> To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com<mailto:tx-etgs@rootsweb.com<mailto:tx-etgs@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:tx-etgs@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo They appear to be a foot-operated press of some kind & the round, lidded containers probably are like big "bobbins" that hold the string or twine used to bind whatever they are making...probably brooms or baskets...but this is only my 'uneducated guess'...LOL! Thanks for sharing... Barbara Montalba, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fitzgerald" <scottfitzgerald@tyler.net<mailto:scottfitzgerald@tyler.net<mailto:scottfitzgerald@tyler.net%3Cmailto:scottfitzgerald@tyler.net>>> To: "ETGS Mailing List" <TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com>>> Cc: "Smith County List" <TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo -----Original Message----- From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com>> [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gina Heffernan Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:00 PM To: TXGenWeb List Subject: [TXGEN] Old Photo Does anyone know what's going on in this photo? or maybe the time period? http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original<http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original<http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original%3Chttp://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original>> Gina Heffernan Rusk Co, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If these are old water pumps they all need repairing since they seem to be missing the pump handle as well as a few other parts. Rex Kirby -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joan Davis Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:45 PM To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo HI, Very simple. A collection of old water pumps. We use to use these type pumps many years ago when I was a kid. BEV. C. Davis -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Fitzgerald Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:25 AM To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com; txsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo Hi Trevia Here is the response that I sent to TXGEN list: Hi Gina, To me it looks like a bunch of hand crank water pumps. I am not sure what the pan thing next to the pump is - maybe a filter or chemical treatment. Unless I am mistaken it says Bullard Texas which south of Tyler. I also see the bows and fiddles that Jane mentioned[in another e-mail]. Could it be something like a barn raising? I am going to forward the message to the Smith County list and see if anyone there has any ideas. Scott > > Interesting photo. went to the Handbook of Texas on line to see if there > might be a clue .... > > BULLARD, TEXAS. Bullard, also known as Etna and Hewsville, is on the St. > Louis Southwestern Railway at the intersection of U.S. Highway 69 and Farm > roads 2493, 2137, and 344, twelve miles south of Tyler in extreme southern > Smith County. > > Possible?? *** A movie theater had opened, and a band also provided > entertainment. **** > > And an interesting note: A traveling jail, seven feet in diameter and > made > of a barred round tank on wheels, held prisoners until the county sheriff > could escort them to Tyler. > > Trevia Wooster Beverly > Houston, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

with all this speculation, why doesn't someone simply use Google images it's so easy even a caveman can do it http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2<http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2> as one poster said, they appear to be old water pumps ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Pike<mailto:bnb549@embarqmail.com> To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com<mailto:tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo They appear to be a foot-operated press of some kind & the round, lidded containers probably are like big "bobbins" that hold the string or twine used to bind whatever they are making...probably brooms or baskets...but this is only my 'uneducated guess'...LOL! Thanks for sharing... Barbara Montalba, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fitzgerald" <scottfitzgerald@tyler.net<mailto:scottfitzgerald@tyler.net>> To: "ETGS Mailing List" <TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com>> Cc: "Smith County List" <TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo -----Original Message----- From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gina Heffernan Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:00 PM To: TXGenWeb List Subject: [TXGEN] Old Photo Does anyone know what's going on in this photo? or maybe the time period? http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original<http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original> Gina Heffernan Rusk Co, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They are at work on some kind of a production line. Sometime even a little child worked back then. That would account for a young boy being in the picture. Hazel _______________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Pike" <bnb549@embarqmail.com> To: <tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] Old Photo > Here is the picture... > Barbara from TX > > http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hazel" <hmwh@vol.com> > To: <tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] Old Photo > > >> Got all of us curious about the picture. How about putting it on line so >> we >> all can see it? >> Hazel from N.C. >> ____________________________ >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Debbie Parker Wayne" <debbie@debbiewayne.com> >> To: <tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] Old Photo >> >> >>> This IS a great photo. Too bad so many of us never write anything on the >>> back of our photos about what is in the image. I finally got all of my >>> photos organized by years, but I still have lots of identification to >>> do. >>> >>> Wow, I don't see bows and fiddles at all. Is the items held by some of >>> the >>> workers that someone though were fiddle bows? What parts looked like >>> fiddles? >>> >>> I see >>> - machines sitting on pallets (like they may have been moved from a >>> building to this area just for the photo - maybe new machines they are >>> proud of?) >>> - several people holding cane or reeds >>> - pile of reeds / canes behind the 8th lady from the left >>> - the lady 6th from the left seems to be running multiple reeds through >>> the >>> machine and has a pile of reeds at her feet as do several others >>> - the machines 7th and 8th from the left seem to have a heavy thread, >>> string, or wire threaded through (maybe used to join or split the >>> reeds?) >>> - the machine 9th from the left is different - no thread and no round >>> disc, >>> the mechanism closest to the lady seems heavier than the one to the left >>> (or something behind the lady makes it appear so) >>> >>> Maybe the disc protects the string or worker, although most early >>> industrial machines I see photos of don't seem so safety-conscious. >>> >>> It might be worthwhile to show the photo to someone over at the Texas >>> Basket Factory in Jacksonville (on US79 just east of downtown). >>> >>> A Google image search with lots of combinations of machine, hat, >>> millinery, >>> sewing, factory, early, 1900s, cane, rattan, reed, basket, and more >>> didn't >>> provide me with a good answer for what is in this photo. But if someone >>> had >>> time to peruse the late 1800s to early 1900s /Scientific American/ and >>> other magazines on the Gutenberg Project <gutenburg.org> or the >>> machinery >>> history on the University of Arizona (UA) site <www.cs.arizona.edu> they >>> might find a similar photo. A search of the U.S. Patent site >>> <http://www.uspto.gov/main/profiles/acadres.htm> might turn up a photo >>> but >>> you would need to know what search terms to use. >>> >>> To narrow things down to just the UA site one of the searches I used on >>> Google images was >>> site:cs.arizona.edu machine early >>> But none of the photos matched closely. >>> >>> Trying to think of other items people would have used in the 1890-1910 >>> time >>> frame that would be made from reeds, cane, or rattan might give more >>> search >>> terms to try. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, Debbie >>> >>> Debbie Parker Wayne >>> Wayne Research -- http://debbiewayne.com/ >>> APG Member -- http://apgen.org/ >>> DNA Director -- http://spanishgrants.com/ >>> >>> Scott Fitzgerald wrote on 8/19/2008 8:24 AM: >>> >>> .... >>> > To me it looks like a bunch of hand crank water pumps. I am not sure >>> > what >>> > the pan thing next to the pump is - maybe a filter or chemical >>> > treatment. >>> > Unless I am mistaken it says Bullard Texas which south of Tyler. I >>> > also >>> > see >>> > the bows and fiddles that Jane mentioned[in another e-mail]. Could it >>> > be >>> > something like a barn raising? >>> >>> >>> Scott Fitzgerald wrote on 8/19/2008 7:32 AM: >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Gina Heffernan >>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:00 PM >>>> To: TXGenWeb List >>>> Subject: [TXGEN] Old Photo >>>> >>>> Does anyone know what's going on in this photo? or maybe the time >>>> period? >>>> >>>> http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original >>>> >>>> >>>> Gina Heffernan >>>> Rusk Co, Texas >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: >>> 8/18/2008 >>> 5:39 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 > 5:39 PM > >

I think these are tomato crate making machines back in the heyday of Bullard being one of the areas where tomatoes were grown extensively and shipped everywhere. The folks in the picture are not dressed for work and I suspect they were attending some sort of tomato festival. If only I could see under that shed I would know for certain. Rex Kirby -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Fitzgerald Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:33 AM To: ETGS Mailing List Cc: Smith County List Subject: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo -----Original Message----- From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gina Heffernan Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:00 PM To: TXGenWeb List Subject: [TXGEN] Old Photo Does anyone know what's going on in this photo? or maybe the time period?   http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original   Gina Heffernan Rusk Co, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. Very early water pumps with drinking fountains. BEV C Davis -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Parker Wayne Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:00 AM To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] Old Photo This IS a great photo. Too bad so many of us never write anything on the back of our photos about what is in the image. I finally got all of my photos organized by years, but I still have lots of identification to do. Wow, I don't see bows and fiddles at all. Is the items held by some of the workers that someone though were fiddle bows? What parts looked like fiddles? I see - machines sitting on pallets (like they may have been moved from a building to this area just for the photo - maybe new machines they are proud of?) - several people holding cane or reeds - pile of reeds / canes behind the 8th lady from the left - the lady 6th from the left seems to be running multiple reeds through the machine and has a pile of reeds at her feet as do several others - the machines 7th and 8th from the left seem to have a heavy thread, string, or wire threaded through (maybe used to join or split the reeds?) - the machine 9th from the left is different - no thread and no round disc, the mechanism closest to the lady seems heavier than the one to the left (or something behind the lady makes it appear so) Maybe the disc protects the string or worker, although most early industrial machines I see photos of don't seem so safety-conscious. It might be worthwhile to show the photo to someone over at the Texas Basket Factory in Jacksonville (on US79 just east of downtown). A Google image search with lots of combinations of machine, hat, millinery, sewing, factory, early, 1900s, cane, rattan, reed, basket, and more didn't provide me with a good answer for what is in this photo. But if someone had time to peruse the late 1800s to early 1900s /Scientific American/ and other magazines on the Gutenberg Project <gutenburg.org> or the machinery history on the University of Arizona (UA) site <www.cs.arizona.edu> they might find a similar photo. A search of the U.S. Patent site <http://www.uspto.gov/main/profiles/acadres.htm> might turn up a photo but you would need to know what search terms to use. To narrow things down to just the UA site one of the searches I used on Google images was site:cs.arizona.edu machine early But none of the photos matched closely. Trying to think of other items people would have used in the 1890-1910 time frame that would be made from reeds, cane, or rattan might give more search terms to try. -- Regards, Debbie Debbie Parker Wayne Wayne Research -- http://debbiewayne.com/ APG Member -- http://apgen.org/ DNA Director -- http://spanishgrants.com/ Scott Fitzgerald wrote on 8/19/2008 8:24 AM: .... > To me it looks like a bunch of hand crank water pumps. I am not sure what > the pan thing next to the pump is - maybe a filter or chemical treatment. > Unless I am mistaken it says Bullard Texas which south of Tyler. I also see > the bows and fiddles that Jane mentioned[in another e-mail]. Could it be > something like a barn raising? Scott Fitzgerald wrote on 8/19/2008 7:32 AM: > > -----Original Message----- > From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Gina Heffernan > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:00 PM > To: TXGenWeb List > Subject: [TXGEN] Old Photo > > Does anyone know what's going on in this photo? or maybe the time period? > > http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original > > > Gina Heffernan > Rusk Co, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guess part of the photo may look like the old water pumps, but none of the photos on google look similar to the round or sperical shape that is on the side of the pump. It almost looks like a flat pan with a lid on it. I did not see anything similar on google. Can you explain what the pan type thing is. It is too flat to be a basin of any type. Karen Kerr --- On Tue, 8/19/08, MBLanier_1@msn.com <MBLanier_1@msn.com> wrote: From: MBLanier_1@msn.com <MBLanier_1@msn.com> Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 4:57 PM with all this speculation, why doesn't someone simply use Google images it's so easy even a caveman can do it http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2<http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=antique+water+pumps&gbv=2> as one poster said, they appear to be old water pumps ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Pike<mailto:bnb549@embarqmail.com> To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com<mailto:tx-etgs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo They appear to be a foot-operated press of some kind & the round, lidded containers probably are like big "bobbins" that hold the string or twine used to bind whatever they are making...probably brooms or baskets...but this is only my 'uneducated guess'...LOL! Thanks for sharing... Barbara Montalba, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fitzgerald" <scottfitzgerald@tyler.net<mailto:scottfitzgerald@tyler.net>> To: "ETGS Mailing List" <TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-L@rootsweb.com>> Cc: "Smith County List" <TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXSMITH-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: [TX-ETGS] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo -----Original Message----- From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gina Heffernan Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:00 PM To: TXGenWeb List Subject: [TXGEN] Old Photo Does anyone know what's going on in this photo? or maybe the time period? http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original<http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/image/view/1796/_original> Gina Heffernan Rusk Co, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI, Very early water pumps with drinking fountains. BEV. C Davis -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen K Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:12 PM To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] Old Photo The first thing that occurs to me is that they are restringing tennis or badmitton rackets. Although I can not imagine that restringing tennis rackets would be so great an industry back then, that they would need this many machines in any one town. Perhaps there was some other piece of popular equipment long ago, that we no longer use in everyday life? Straw hats or fans?  Just guessing.  Karen Kerr   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very early water pumps with drinking fountains. BEV. C Davis -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:25 PM To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] Old Photo My guess is they are sewing heavy duty machines. Maybe for making brooms. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Very early water pumps with drinking fountains. BEV. C Davis -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:28 PM To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] Old Photo Try, try again!!! My guess is they are heavy duty sewing machines. Maybe for making brooms. The brain and the fingers aren't working together today. Jim Barrett <parino@flash.net> wrote: My guess is they are sewing heavy duty machines. Maybe for making brooms. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI, Very simple. A collection of old water pumps. We use to use these type pumps many years ago when I was a kid. BEV. C. Davis -----Original Message----- From: tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tx-etgs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Fitzgerald Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:25 AM To: tx-etgs@rootsweb.com; txsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TX-ETGS] [TXSMITH] FW: [TXGEN] Old Photo Hi Trevia Here is the response that I sent to TXGEN list: Hi Gina, To me it looks like a bunch of hand crank water pumps. I am not sure what the pan thing next to the pump is - maybe a filter or chemical treatment. Unless I am mistaken it says Bullard Texas which south of Tyler. I also see the bows and fiddles that Jane mentioned[in another e-mail]. Could it be something like a barn raising? I am going to forward the message to the Smith County list and see if anyone there has any ideas. Scott > > Interesting photo. went to the Handbook of Texas on line to see if there > might be a clue .... > > BULLARD, TEXAS. Bullard, also known as Etna and Hewsville, is on the St. > Louis Southwestern Railway at the intersection of U.S. Highway 69 and Farm > roads 2493, 2137, and 344, twelve miles south of Tyler in extreme southern > Smith County. > > Possible?? *** A movie theater had opened, and a band also provided > entertainment. **** > > And an interesting note: A traveling jail, seven feet in diameter and > made > of a barred round tank on wheels, held prisoners until the county sheriff > could escort them to Tyler. > > Trevia Wooster Beverly > Houston, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TX-ETGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message