Thank you for the info, but not interested in signing up with Ancestry. SS ----- Original Message ----- From: "bk306457" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > Hi, > The french name of the harbour is Le Havre. > You could find some information on > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml > Lucky hunt! > G. & L.M. Vanwijnsberghe-Hunt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon A Sanker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:12 PM > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > > > > I wouldn't be surprised if Maria was deceased by 1860, just don't know. > > Got the marriage record from the Gasconade County Court house in Hermann > > some years back, live only 20 miles from there. Also got her father's > will > > and probate records from there too, had hopes of a listing of grands but > > nothing in that direction. Her family was Catholic and nothing at the > local > > church, not even listing when married as were some of the other siblings. > > Seems a dead end every where I look. > > > > Do you know where to find passenger lists from Laharve, France to New > > Orleans? Maybe he came over with her family, haven't located those lists > > either. Thanks for your interest. > > > > SS in Missouri > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Huff" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > > > > > > > Sharon, I think this may be an impossibility without knowing children's > > > names or something. I wish we knew when Maria died. Did you check > where > > > the will was actually probated? There might be a mention of the > > childrens' > > > names there. I have found a couple of things that might give food for > > > thought, but that's about it. I checked the 1860 census for anyone born > > in > > > Switzerland named Maria, Marie, M., Mary or Eliz* aged 27 thru 31 and > came > > > up with nothing, so am wondering if she could already be dead by 1860. > If > > > she were, the following might be a possibility. > > > > > > 1860 Pickaway, OH > > > August Seriff, 36, Germany > > > Alphena, 34, Germany > > > John 5, OH (he is not listed on the 1870 census but is on 1880 as "son > of > > > wife" which means this was at least a 2nd marriage for each) > > > Augustus, 2, OH > > > Mary 1, OH > > > I thought maybe Augustus and Mary could be Maria's children??????? > > > > > > 1870 Union Co., IL > > > August Sharp, 49, Prussia > > > Appolonia, 45, Biarland > > > August 12, OH > > > Mary 11, OH > > > France 9, OH > > > Emma 7, OH > > > Philip 5, OH > > > > > > 1880 Union Co., IL > > > August Scharf 56, Prussia > > > Applonia 55, Beiarn > > > John Beauscher?, 25, son of wife, OH > > > August Scharf, Jr., 22, son, OH > > > Mary 20, dau, OH > > > Frank 18, son, OH > > > Emma 17, dau, OH > > > Phillip 15, son, OH > > > All of the children show Beiarn for Mother's place of birth. > > > However, census takers quite often just put the wife's birth place there > > > whether the wife was that particular child's Mother or not. > > > > > > I found only one other possibility. > > > > > > 1860 Cuyahoga Co., OH > > > Joseph Scharpf, 30, Hesse Darmstade (maybe his name was Joseph > > Augustus???) > > > Mary 30, Hesse Darmstade > > > Mary 6, OH > > > Augustus 2, OH > > > > > > Wish I could find something more concrete, but no such luck. > > > > > > Linda in Texas > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon A Sanker" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:15 AM > > > Subject: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > > > > > > > > > > Unsure just how they would be listed on the census... Don't they have > to > > > turn up somewhere? Thanks to all that are searching for me. Really > > > appreciate it. > > > > > > > > Searching for August Scharf m Maria Elizabeth (Stoecklin) born in > > > Switzerland in 1830, Married Jan 15, 1853 in Gasconade County, Hermann, > > > Missouri and seems to disappeared after. Per her father's will of 1881, > > she > > > was deceased with children, tho no mention of names nor where they > lived. > > I > > > would be most appreciative if anyone can locate this family. Beginning > > with > > > the 1860 census please. > > > > > > > > I was unaware that an all name census is now available for 1880, tho > no > > > cigar there either, Wonderful for some tho.! > > > > > > > > Sharon Missouri > > > > > > > > Sharon in Missouri > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > > > Free Soundex code converter > > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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No need to sign up at Ancestry, Sharon. Use the olivetree search engines (same page) instead of Ancestry's. (Thanks for the link, G & LM! I have bookmarked it.) Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon A Sanker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > Thank you for the info, but not interested in signing up with Ancestry. > SS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bk306457" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:12 AM > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > > > > Hi, > > The french name of the harbour is Le Havre. > > You could find some information on > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml > > Lucky hunt! > > G. & L.M. Vanwijnsberghe-Hunt > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon A Sanker" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > > > > > > > I wouldn't be surprised if Maria was deceased by 1860, just don't know. > > > Got the marriage record from the Gasconade County Court house in Hermann > > > some years back, live only 20 miles from there. Also got her father's > > will > > > and probate records from there too, had hopes of a listing of grands but > > > nothing in that direction. Her family was Catholic and nothing at the > > local > > > church, not even listing when married as were some of the other > siblings. > > > Seems a dead end every where I look. > > > > > > Do you know where to find passenger lists from Laharve, France to New > > > Orleans? Maybe he came over with her family, haven't located those > lists > > > either. Thanks for your interest. > > > > > > SS in Missouri > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda Huff" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > > > > > > > > > > Sharon, I think this may be an impossibility without knowing > children's > > > > names or something. I wish we knew when Maria died. Did you check > > where > > > > the will was actually probated? There might be a mention of the > > > childrens' > > > > names there. I have found a couple of things that might give food for > > > > thought, but that's about it. I checked the 1860 census for anyone > born > > > in > > > > Switzerland named Maria, Marie, M., Mary or Eliz* aged 27 thru 31 and > > came > > > > up with nothing, so am wondering if she could already be dead by 1860. > > If > > > > she were, the following might be a possibility. > > > > > > > > 1860 Pickaway, OH > > > > August Seriff, 36, Germany > > > > Alphena, 34, Germany > > > > John 5, OH (he is not listed on the 1870 census but is on 1880 as "son > > of > > > > wife" which means this was at least a 2nd marriage for each) > > > > Augustus, 2, OH > > > > Mary 1, OH > > > > I thought maybe Augustus and Mary could be Maria's > children??????? > > > > > > > > 1870 Union Co., IL > > > > August Sharp, 49, Prussia > > > > Appolonia, 45, Biarland > > > > August 12, OH > > > > Mary 11, OH > > > > France 9, OH > > > > Emma 7, OH > > > > Philip 5, OH > > > > > > > > 1880 Union Co., IL > > > > August Scharf 56, Prussia > > > > Applonia 55, Beiarn > > > > John Beauscher?, 25, son of wife, OH > > > > August Scharf, Jr., 22, son, OH > > > > Mary 20, dau, OH > > > > Frank 18, son, OH > > > > Emma 17, dau, OH > > > > Phillip 15, son, OH > > > > All of the children show Beiarn for Mother's place of birth. > > > > However, census takers quite often just put the wife's birth place > there > > > > whether the wife was that particular child's Mother or not. > > > > > > > > I found only one other possibility. > > > > > > > > 1860 Cuyahoga Co., OH > > > > Joseph Scharpf, 30, Hesse Darmstade (maybe his name was Joseph > > > Augustus???) > > > > Mary 30, Hesse Darmstade > > > > Mary 6, OH > > > > Augustus 2, OH > > > > > > > > Wish I could find something more concrete, but no such luck. > > > > > > > > Linda in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sharon A Sanker" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:15 AM > > > > Subject: [TX-CEN] Maybe Scharf, Gus and Marie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unsure just how they would be listed on the census... Don't they > have > > to > > > > turn up somewhere? Thanks to all that are searching for me. Really > > > > appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > Searching for August Scharf m Maria Elizabeth (Stoecklin) born in > > > > Switzerland in 1830, Married Jan 15, 1853 in Gasconade County, > Hermann, > > > > Missouri and seems to disappeared after. Per her father's will of > 1881, > > > she > > > > was deceased with children, tho no mention of names nor where they > > lived. > > > I > > > > would be most appreciative if anyone can locate this family. > Beginning > > > with > > > > the 1860 census please. > > > > > > > > > > I was unaware that an all name census is now available for 1880, tho > > no > > > > cigar there either, Wonderful for some tho.! > > > > > > > > > > Sharon Missouri > > > > > > > > > > Sharon in Missouri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > > > > Free Soundex code converter > > > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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