Melissa, U.S. census records are not made public for 72 years. The 1930 U.S. census was released in 2002. The 1940 U.S. census will be released in 2012. TX Death Records: Charles SUTTER died in Harris County on 27 Dec 1964. If an obituary was published for him, it would be in the Houston Public Library. Just fill in their HPL eServices Email Reference Form and include his name, date and place of death: http://www.hpl.lib.tx.us/hpl/interactive/eref_form.html You can get his death certificate from the Texas Department of State Health Services. Texas Birth and Death Records: http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/registra/certcop.htm Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>

Garland, the Parkers are my husband's family. From what I understand, they came from England to VA/NC, to GA, then to AL. The names you listed are not familiar to me. Sorry, good luck in your research. Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garland Walker" <rangerwalker99_99@yahoo.com> To: <TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] Harris/1940/Sutter > M. Parker > My Great Grandmother was Sarah Artha Ann Parker born abt. 1846? Alabama > dies Sept 10, 1934 Dallas, Texas. Her father was Russel Parker and hi wife > was Martha Griffin married in Benton, Alabama Dec. 27, 1844, they bith was > born in South Carolina. On the 1860 census of St. Clair Alabama, he was 35 > and martha was 27. Sarah was 6 Years Old at the time she 3 more sistersand > 2 brothers Taylor and Felix. Would this be any of your Parker's. > > I will be looking through my papers but I think I have a Sutter's in my > family. > > Garland Walker > Beeville, TX > > Melissa Parker <lissapark@knology.net> wrote: > I'm looking for Charles Sutter, born about 1893, Montgomery, AL., died > 1964, Houston, TX. Thanks for any help. > > Melissa > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with > your state abbreviation ) > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Free Soundex code converter > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

I'm looking for Charles Sutter, born about 1893, Montgomery, AL., died 1964, Houston, TX. Thanks for any help. Melissa

M. Parker My Great Grandmother was Sarah Artha Ann Parker born abt. 1846? Alabama dies Sept 10, 1934 Dallas, Texas. Her father was Russel Parker and hi wife was Martha Griffin married in Benton, Alabama Dec. 27, 1844, they bith was born in South Carolina. On the 1860 census of St. Clair Alabama, he was 35 and martha was 27. Sarah was 6 Years Old at the time she 3 more sistersand 2 brothers Taylor and Felix. Would this be any of your Parker's. I will be looking through my papers but I think I have a Sutter's in my family. Garland Walker Beeville, TX Melissa Parker <lissapark@knology.net> wrote: I'm looking for Charles Sutter, born about 1893, Montgomery, AL., died 1964, Houston, TX. Thanks for any help. Melissa ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Linda in Georgia, Thanks so much for your help!! I never would have thought that they would list Barker as Backer. You are great!! You have a great day!! Susan Harnish

I am looking for Adley James McCaw born 1893 in Texas. His wife was my great aunt Bertie H. McCaw born 189? in Texas. They were in Chillicothe, Texas during the 1930's. They only had one child who died in infancy. Adley was a tailor. Thanks so much!! Susan Harnish

I am trying to find Alford Cates born abt. 1818 in North Carolina - wife's name MaryAnne born abt.1824 in Georgia. May still have children at home: Andrew J. Martha Ann Elizabeth Adam C. Thank you for any help you may be able to give me. JB

Yes, Louann, I would like to have the info. And I want to thank you so much for all the trouble you have gone to in order to help me out. I would like to thank all of you who have sent me info and would appreciate any more you have to find. Sincerely... Carol in Illinois.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louann ROARK" <louann_26294@msn.com> To: <TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas > Carol: > I am not sure what happened between 1870 and 1880 that caused a whole > group of families to up and move from Tarkington Prairie Liberty County TX > and relocate to Evergreen San Jacinto County TX, but that is what > happened. It is not that the county lines changed, they moved, as both > these places still exist today. The families are Carnes, Stringer, > Bazzson, Whitmeyer, Enloe, and I am sure there are others, if I took the > time to scan more pages of the two census. > > Now what I found at the library today. > Montague Cemetery on FM 1725 about 3 miles north of county line in San > Jacinto County. > Millie Ann Enloe {believe this is Millie Lunn, sister to your Mindy} > b.12.16.1885 d.09.25.1911 age 25 > Barney B. Carnes { believe this is brother of your Louisa M. Carnes Lunn > Shaw} b.12.26.1870 d.09.12.1932 age 61 > Louisa M. Shaw {mother of Millie & Mindy} b. 1869 d. 1906 age 37 h. > William J. Shaw > William J. Shaw b. 1865 {1900 census shows he was b. Dec. 1873 } d. 1934 > age 69 w. Louisa M. Shaw > Leo Stringer {brother to your Lucion } b. 01.21.1895 d.02.08.1972 age 77 > w. Mollie Stringer > Sam Stringer {brother to your Lucion} b.1898 d.1956 age 58 > Montgomery County TX marriage records > W. J. Shaw m. Mrs. Luisa Lunn Jan. 02, 1890 Book 5 page 129 > San Jacinto County TX marriage records > George W. Stringer m. M. Moody {father of your Lucion} 01.27.1881 Book A > page 344 > Barnebas Carnes m. Effie Ellisor {brother of Louisa} 02.25.1892 Book B > page 403 > Lucion Stringer m. Mindie Lunn 03.10.1907 Book D page 77 > I did not find a record of Mindy's death or burial. I went thru every > thing we had for Liberty, San Jacinto, Polk (San Jacinto was formed from > Polk), and Montgomery counties. > I did not find a marriage record for Louisa Carnes and a Lunn. > This is the only thing that is even close, and it could be it, as 1900 > census shows Millie b. Dec. 1885, and Mindy b. Feb. 1888. > San Jacinto Co. TX marriage records: J. L. Luman m. L. M. C. Carnes > 02.27.1884 book B page 93 > I have the 1870 to 1930 census saved, but the files are quite large, so > not sure you would want me to send them to you. Please let me know, as I > plan on deleting them, if you don't want them. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Louann ROARK<mailto:louann_26294@msn.com> > To: > TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas > > > Carol, > I am going to the Clayton Library today, so I will check to see what we > have on San Jacinto and Liberty counties. Liberty was were they where in > 1870. I maybe able to locate some early marriages and burials. > I am reasonably familiar with both areas, as I live just south of them, > in Houston, Harris Co. TX, and have family in Cleveland and Evergreen. > > I believe that Linda is correct in her statement below. Millie and > Mindy's mother was a Carnes. > What I don't understand, is why they continued to all live next door to > each other for over 40 years, if there was a falling out. Also, I think > that Millie may have married a Enloe. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda > Murray<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net>> > To: > TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:06 AM > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas > > > Carol, > > The answers you need may not be found in census records. > > Have someone check the cemetery where Mindy is buried. It is likely > that because she died young, she may be buried in a family plot which will > give you clues to family relationships. Check for a marriage record about > 1890 for William Jeff Shaw to see who he married, and any Carnes marriages > for a Carnes/Lunn (or something similar) marriage. Also have someone > check, either at the TX Archives or at the courthouse at San Jacinto > county, for any estate settlements of Carnes and Shaws to see who named > your father, Fred, as an heir. > > My best guess, based on what you know, is that Lou Carnes married a > Lunn and had Millie and Mindy. Her Lunn husband perhaps died and she then > married Jeff Shaw and had Richard and Rosa and died prior to the 1910 > census. If that is the case, Richard Shaw would have been Mindy's > half-brother and your father's uncle, and Pete Shaw at least a half-cousin > to your dad, but that doesn't explain the "double" cousin relationship. > > The answers are out there and good proof is certainly possible. Once > you know for sure that Mindy's mother was Lou Carnes, the census will be > helpful in tracing earlier generations. > > Good luck, > Linda in Georgia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Fletcher > To: > TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas > > > I know Mindy is buried in the cemetary near Cleveland. I think there > is a > grave marker but not sure. She died of TB at the age of 23 I think. > My dad > was an only child, he had a sibling who was either stillborn or died > in > infancy. I had heard that Jeff Shaw was a step dad to Mindy but have > never > been able to verify it. Pete Shaw (grandson of Jeff) is a family > friend > that I am in email contact with and he says that there is no family > relationship between the Stringers and the Shaws that they just grew > up > together. My dad passed away in 1991 so I can no longer ask him > questions > and I didn't get into geneology until after his death. But he always > called > Richard Shaw "Uncle Richard" and said the Pete (Richard's son) was > his > double cousin. I didn't question what he meant by that except that > he was > supposedly a cousin by two different means. I do know that my > grandma Mindy > was related to the Carnes family. There is land joint owned between > us > Stringers and the Carnes' so I know that is a known fact. It was > inherited > land passed from my Grandma Mindy to my dad then to my siblings and > myself. > I figure Mindy had at least one sibling who also inherited since the > land > was passed to the Stringers and the Carnes. I can't contact any of > the > Carnes family because when my Grandpa Lucius Stringer married Mindy > her > family didn't like it and the dislike has continued down through the > years. > My family, including my dad, always believed his mother's name was > Mindy > Lunn. It wasn't until I got to searching that I began to wonder > because I > couldn't find anything on Lunn but did on Shaw. Thank you so very > much for > helping me search. It really means alot to me to find out where my > Grandma > Mindy came from. > Carol in Illinois (originally Arizona) > > > > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Free Soundex code converter > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter<http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter<http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter<http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter>> > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. 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Found indexed as BACKER, of all things. 1870 Rusk County, Texas - Precinct 4 - PO Henderson - September 6, 1870 - page 447 386 - Barker, William, age 30; white male; farmer; $250/420; born MS Rachel, age 25; white female; keeping house; born GA Lucinda A., age 4; at home; born TX Mary E., age 2; at home; born TX Amos M., age 6 months; born March; born TX Wilson, Jasper, age 10; black male; at home; born TX Williams, George, age 60; black male; at home; born TX Good luck! Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Harnish To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: [TX-CEN] 1870 Census/near Rusk County/ Barker I am looking for William S. Barker born 1840 Miss. and his wife Rachel J. born 1845 in GA. At this time there were three children: Lucinda A. born 1866 in Tx.,Mary E. born 1868 in Tx. and Amos born 1869 in Tx. Thanks so much!! Susan Harnish ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To view completed census transcriptions online http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Carol: I am not sure what happened between 1870 and 1880 that caused a whole group of families to up and move from Tarkington Prairie Liberty County TX and relocate to Evergreen San Jacinto County TX, but that is what happened. It is not that the county lines changed, they moved, as both these places still exist today. The families are Carnes, Stringer, Bazzson, Whitmeyer, Enloe, and I am sure there are others, if I took the time to scan more pages of the two census. Now what I found at the library today. Montague Cemetery on FM 1725 about 3 miles north of county line in San Jacinto County. Millie Ann Enloe {believe this is Millie Lunn, sister to your Mindy} b.12.16.1885 d.09.25.1911 age 25 Barney B. Carnes { believe this is brother of your Louisa M. Carnes Lunn Shaw} b.12.26.1870 d.09.12.1932 age 61 Louisa M. Shaw {mother of Millie & Mindy} b. 1869 d. 1906 age 37 h. William J. Shaw William J. Shaw b. 1865 {1900 census shows he was b. Dec. 1873 } d. 1934 age 69 w. Louisa M. Shaw Leo Stringer {brother to your Lucion } b. 01.21.1895 d.02.08.1972 age 77 w. Mollie Stringer Sam Stringer {brother to your Lucion} b.1898 d.1956 age 58 Montgomery County TX marriage records W. J. Shaw m. Mrs. Luisa Lunn Jan. 02, 1890 Book 5 page 129 San Jacinto County TX marriage records George W. Stringer m. M. Moody {father of your Lucion} 01.27.1881 Book A page 344 Barnebas Carnes m. Effie Ellisor {brother of Louisa} 02.25.1892 Book B page 403 Lucion Stringer m. Mindie Lunn 03.10.1907 Book D page 77 I did not find a record of Mindy's death or burial. I went thru every thing we had for Liberty, San Jacinto, Polk (San Jacinto was formed from Polk), and Montgomery counties. I did not find a marriage record for Louisa Carnes and a Lunn. This is the only thing that is even close, and it could be it, as 1900 census shows Millie b. Dec. 1885, and Mindy b. Feb. 1888. San Jacinto Co. TX marriage records: J. L. Luman m. L. M. C. Carnes 02.27.1884 book B page 93 I have the 1870 to 1930 census saved, but the files are quite large, so not sure you would want me to send them to you. Please let me know, as I plan on deleting them, if you don't want them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Louann ROARK<mailto:louann_26294@msn.com> To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas Carol, I am going to the Clayton Library today, so I will check to see what we have on San Jacinto and Liberty counties. Liberty was were they where in 1870. I maybe able to locate some early marriages and burials. I am reasonably familiar with both areas, as I live just south of them, in Houston, Harris Co. TX, and have family in Cleveland and Evergreen. I believe that Linda is correct in her statement below. Millie and Mindy's mother was a Carnes. What I don't understand, is why they continued to all live next door to each other for over 40 years, if there was a falling out. Also, I think that Millie may have married a Enloe. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Murray<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net>> To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas Carol, The answers you need may not be found in census records. Have someone check the cemetery where Mindy is buried. It is likely that because she died young, she may be buried in a family plot which will give you clues to family relationships. Check for a marriage record about 1890 for William Jeff Shaw to see who he married, and any Carnes marriages for a Carnes/Lunn (or something similar) marriage. Also have someone check, either at the TX Archives or at the courthouse at San Jacinto county, for any estate settlements of Carnes and Shaws to see who named your father, Fred, as an heir. My best guess, based on what you know, is that Lou Carnes married a Lunn and had Millie and Mindy. Her Lunn husband perhaps died and she then married Jeff Shaw and had Richard and Rosa and died prior to the 1910 census. If that is the case, Richard Shaw would have been Mindy's half-brother and your father's uncle, and Pete Shaw at least a half-cousin to your dad, but that doesn't explain the "double" cousin relationship. The answers are out there and good proof is certainly possible. Once you know for sure that Mindy's mother was Lou Carnes, the census will be helpful in tracing earlier generations. Good luck, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Fletcher To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas I know Mindy is buried in the cemetary near Cleveland. I think there is a grave marker but not sure. She died of TB at the age of 23 I think. My dad was an only child, he had a sibling who was either stillborn or died in infancy. I had heard that Jeff Shaw was a step dad to Mindy but have never been able to verify it. Pete Shaw (grandson of Jeff) is a family friend that I am in email contact with and he says that there is no family relationship between the Stringers and the Shaws that they just grew up together. My dad passed away in 1991 so I can no longer ask him questions and I didn't get into geneology until after his death. But he always called Richard Shaw "Uncle Richard" and said the Pete (Richard's son) was his double cousin. I didn't question what he meant by that except that he was supposedly a cousin by two different means. I do know that my grandma Mindy was related to the Carnes family. There is land joint owned between us Stringers and the Carnes' so I know that is a known fact. It was inherited land passed from my Grandma Mindy to my dad then to my siblings and myself. I figure Mindy had at least one sibling who also inherited since the land was passed to the Stringers and the Carnes. I can't contact any of the Carnes family because when my Grandpa Lucius Stringer married Mindy her family didn't like it and the dislike has continued down through the years. My family, including my dad, always believed his mother's name was Mindy Lunn. It wasn't until I got to searching that I began to wonder because I couldn't find anything on Lunn but did on Shaw. Thank you so very much for helping me search. It really means alot to me to find out where my Grandma Mindy came from. Carol in Illinois (originally Arizona) ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== Free Soundex code converter http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter<http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter<http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter<http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter>> ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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Cece, Have you already checked the 1880 census online? http://www.familysearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Cece To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: [TX-CEN] County?-1877-Cline Hello and greetings from HOT-lanta, Georgia. I would appreciate help in finding info. on my G Aunt, Rhoda CLINE Smith. I found out from the mortuary who handled her burial, that she was born in TX, (no county given) on 11-24-1877. She married John Edward Smith, I assume in Indianapolis, as that is where he was born and died. She died in Indianapolis, IN on 8-24-1959. She had no children, and I have no idea of any extended family members on her mother or fathers side, nor do I know their names. Is there a possible route to find out about someone using only their name and birth date? The mortuary had her listed as Rhoda E. Smith. I assume that was her middle name initial. Thank You, Cece ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To transcribe a census please volunteer at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.netfor the state census transcriptions for AL & TX ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

You could write the Court House in the county seat and ask for a death record. Dortha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cece" <mawcee@mindspring.com> To: <TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: [TX-CEN] County?-1877-Cline > Hello and greetings from HOT-lanta, Georgia. > > I would appreciate help in finding info. on my G Aunt, Rhoda CLINE Smith. > > I found out from the mortuary who handled her burial, that she was born in > TX, (no county given) on 11-24-1877. She married John Edward Smith, I > assume in Indianapolis, as that is where he was born and died. > > She died in Indianapolis, IN on 8-24-1959. She had no children, and I > have no idea of any extended family members on her mother or fathers side, > nor do I know their names. > > Is there a possible route to find out about someone using only their name > and birth date? The mortuary had her listed as Rhoda E. Smith. I assume > that was her middle name initial. > > Thank You, > > Cece > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To transcribe a census please volunteer at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie > Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.netfor the state census > transcriptions for AL & TX > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hello and greetings from HOT-lanta, Georgia. I would appreciate help in finding info. on my G Aunt, Rhoda CLINE Smith. I found out from the mortuary who handled her burial, that she was born in TX, (no county given) on 11-24-1877. She married John Edward Smith, I assume in Indianapolis, as that is where he was born and died. She died in Indianapolis, IN on 8-24-1959. She had no children, and I have no idea of any extended family members on her mother or fathers side, nor do I know their names. Is there a possible route to find out about someone using only their name and birth date? The mortuary had her listed as Rhoda E. Smith. I assume that was her middle name initial. Thank You, Cece

I am looking for William S. Barker born 1840 Miss. and his wife Rachel J. born 1845 in GA. At this time there were three children: Lucinda A. born 1866 in Tx.,Mary E. born 1868 in Tx. and Amos born 1869 in Tx. Thanks so much!! Susan Harnish

Carol, The answers you need may not be found in census records. Have someone check the cemetery where Mindy is buried. It is likely that because she died young, she may be buried in a family plot which will give you clues to family relationships. Check for a marriage record about 1890 for William Jeff Shaw to see who he married, and any Carnes marriages for a Carnes/Lunn (or something similar) marriage. Also have someone check, either at the TX Archives or at the courthouse at San Jacinto county, for any estate settlements of Carnes and Shaws to see who named your father, Fred, as an heir. My best guess, based on what you know, is that Lou Carnes married a Lunn and had Millie and Mindy. Her Lunn husband perhaps died and she then married Jeff Shaw and had Richard and Rosa and died prior to the 1910 census. If that is the case, Richard Shaw would have been Mindy's half-brother and your father's uncle, and Pete Shaw at least a half-cousin to your dad, but that doesn't explain the "double" cousin relationship. The answers are out there and good proof is certainly possible. Once you know for sure that Mindy's mother was Lou Carnes, the census will be helpful in tracing earlier generations. Good luck, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Fletcher To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas I know Mindy is buried in the cemetary near Cleveland. I think there is a grave marker but not sure. She died of TB at the age of 23 I think. My dad was an only child, he had a sibling who was either stillborn or died in infancy. I had heard that Jeff Shaw was a step dad to Mindy but have never been able to verify it. Pete Shaw (grandson of Jeff) is a family friend that I am in email contact with and he says that there is no family relationship between the Stringers and the Shaws that they just grew up together. My dad passed away in 1991 so I can no longer ask him questions and I didn't get into geneology until after his death. But he always called Richard Shaw "Uncle Richard" and said the Pete (Richard's son) was his double cousin. I didn't question what he meant by that except that he was supposedly a cousin by two different means. I do know that my grandma Mindy was related to the Carnes family. There is land joint owned between us Stringers and the Carnes' so I know that is a known fact. It was inherited land passed from my Grandma Mindy to my dad then to my siblings and myself. I figure Mindy had at least one sibling who also inherited since the land was passed to the Stringers and the Carnes. I can't contact any of the Carnes family because when my Grandpa Lucius Stringer married Mindy her family didn't like it and the dislike has continued down through the years. My family, including my dad, always believed his mother's name was Mindy Lunn. It wasn't until I got to searching that I began to wonder because I couldn't find anything on Lunn but did on Shaw. Thank you so very much for helping me search. It really means alot to me to find out where my Grandma Mindy came from. Carol in Illinois (originally Arizona)

Carol, I am going to the Clayton Library today, so I will check to see what we have on San Jacinto and Liberty counties. Liberty was were they where in 1870. I maybe able to locate some early marriages and burials. I am reasonably familiar with both areas, as I live just south of them, in Houston, Harris Co. TX, and have family in Cleveland and Evergreen. I believe that Linda is correct in her statement below. Millie and Mindy's mother was a Carnes. What I don't understand, is why they continued to all live next door to each other for over 40 years, if there was a falling out. Also, I think that Millie may have married a Enloe. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Murray<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas Carol, The answers you need may not be found in census records. Have someone check the cemetery where Mindy is buried. It is likely that because she died young, she may be buried in a family plot which will give you clues to family relationships. Check for a marriage record about 1890 for William Jeff Shaw to see who he married, and any Carnes marriages for a Carnes/Lunn (or something similar) marriage. Also have someone check, either at the TX Archives or at the courthouse at San Jacinto county, for any estate settlements of Carnes and Shaws to see who named your father, Fred, as an heir. My best guess, based on what you know, is that Lou Carnes married a Lunn and had Millie and Mindy. Her Lunn husband perhaps died and she then married Jeff Shaw and had Richard and Rosa and died prior to the 1910 census. If that is the case, Richard Shaw would have been Mindy's half-brother and your father's uncle, and Pete Shaw at least a half-cousin to your dad, but that doesn't explain the "double" cousin relationship. The answers are out there and good proof is certainly possible. Once you know for sure that Mindy's mother was Lou Carnes, the census will be helpful in tracing earlier generations. Good luck, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Fletcher To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas I know Mindy is buried in the cemetary near Cleveland. I think there is a grave marker but not sure. She died of TB at the age of 23 I think. My dad was an only child, he had a sibling who was either stillborn or died in infancy. I had heard that Jeff Shaw was a step dad to Mindy but have never been able to verify it. Pete Shaw (grandson of Jeff) is a family friend that I am in email contact with and he says that there is no family relationship between the Stringers and the Shaws that they just grew up together. My dad passed away in 1991 so I can no longer ask him questions and I didn't get into geneology until after his death. But he always called Richard Shaw "Uncle Richard" and said the Pete (Richard's son) was his double cousin. I didn't question what he meant by that except that he was supposedly a cousin by two different means. I do know that my grandma Mindy was related to the Carnes family. There is land joint owned between us Stringers and the Carnes' so I know that is a known fact. It was inherited land passed from my Grandma Mindy to my dad then to my siblings and myself. I figure Mindy had at least one sibling who also inherited since the land was passed to the Stringers and the Carnes. I can't contact any of the Carnes family because when my Grandpa Lucius Stringer married Mindy her family didn't like it and the dislike has continued down through the years. My family, including my dad, always believed his mother's name was Mindy Lunn. It wasn't until I got to searching that I began to wonder because I couldn't find anything on Lunn but did on Shaw. Thank you so very much for helping me search. It really means alot to me to find out where my Grandma Mindy came from. Carol in Illinois (originally Arizona) ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== Free Soundex code converter http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter<http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter> ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429>

I know Mindy is buried in the cemetary near Cleveland. I think there is a grave marker but not sure. She died of TB at the age of 23 I think. My dad was an only child, he had a sibling who was either stillborn or died in infancy. I had heard that Jeff Shaw was a step dad to Mindy but have never been able to verify it. Pete Shaw (grandson of Jeff) is a family friend that I am in email contact with and he says that there is no family relationship between the Stringers and the Shaws that they just grew up together. My dad passed away in 1991 so I can no longer ask him questions and I didn't get into geneology until after his death. But he always called Richard Shaw "Uncle Richard" and said the Pete (Richard's son) was his double cousin. I didn't question what he meant by that except that he was supposedly a cousin by two different means. I do know that my grandma Mindy was related to the Carnes family. There is land joint owned between us Stringers and the Carnes' so I know that is a known fact. It was inherited land passed from my Grandma Mindy to my dad then to my siblings and myself. I figure Mindy had at least one sibling who also inherited since the land was passed to the Stringers and the Carnes. I can't contact any of the Carnes family because when my Grandpa Lucius Stringer married Mindy her family didn't like it and the dislike has continued down through the years. My family, including my dad, always believed his mother's name was Mindy Lunn. It wasn't until I got to searching that I began to wonder because I couldn't find anything on Lunn but did on Shaw. Thank you so very much for helping me search. It really means alot to me to find out where my Grandma Mindy came from. Carol in Illinois (originally Arizona) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louann ROARK" <louann_26294@msn.com> To: <TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas > In looking at this census, I don't believe that Mindy or her sister are > the daughters of Jeff. > The Shaw's had only been married 10yr. and these girls are 16 and 14. > I believe that the wife is the Louisa Carnes age 11 found in San Jacinto > County in 1880. > I say this, because the Carnes are next door to the Shaws and Stringers in > 1900,1910,1920,&1930. > But this Carnes household and the ones on either side in 1880 is a mess, > and I don't know how you will figure out what the true relationship is to > all the members. I sure the answer to the true identity of Fred's mother > lies in the 1890 census, which of course we do not have. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Murray<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > To: > TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas > > > Carol, > Might Fred's mother have been Mindy Shaw instead of Lunn? > > Fred's family in the 1900 San Jacinto County census were living next door > to Jeff Shaw's family. Jeff and his wife, whose name looks like Lun to > me, had a daughter named Mindy, who was the same age Fred's mother gave on > the 1910 census (born Feb 1888 per 1900 and age 21 per 1910). > > Am trying to verify Mindy Shaw's mother's name in case that's where the > "Lunn" surname came from, but she was dead prior to 1910 and am not having > any luck so far finding her in the 1880 census. If you think Mindy may > have been a Shaw instead of a Lunn, would you let me know, please. If > Shaw is not a possibility, I won't waste any more time on that search. > > Does Mindy have a grave marker? Does you dad remember if she had > siblings (Millie, Richard, Rosa)? > > Thanks, > Linda in Georgia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Fletcher > To: > TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:00 AM > Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas > > > My father Fred Stringer was born to Lucius Stringer and wife Mindy Lunn > (I > believe) on Oct. 18, 1908 in San Jacinto County. I can't find any info > on > his mother. She died when he was 5 and I can't locate her family. The > family's were feuding so lost touch. Can anyone help me? Thank you > ever so > much. > Sincerely, > Carol > > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com> > (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx> > > > > ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com> > (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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I don't have a clue. Not finding a marriage record for Jeff in San Jac., who was William J. in 1910 and still next door. Hopefully you will be able to. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Louann ROARK To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas In looking at this census, I don't believe that Mindy or her sister are the daughters of Jeff. The Shaw's had only been married 10yr. and these girls are 16 and 14. I believe that the wife is the Louisa Carnes age 11 found in San Jacinto County in 1880. I say this, because the Carnes are next door to the Shaws and Stringers in 1900,1910,1920,&1930. But this Carnes household and the ones on either side in 1880 is a mess, and I don't know how you will figure out what the true relationship is to all the members. I sure the answer to the true identity of Fred's mother lies in the 1890 census, which of course we do not have. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Murray<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas Carol, Might Fred's mother have been Mindy Shaw instead of Lunn? Fred's family in the 1900 San Jacinto County census were living next door to Jeff Shaw's family. Jeff and his wife, whose name looks like Lun to me, had a daughter named Mindy, who was the same age Fred's mother gave on the 1910 census (born Feb 1888 per 1900 and age 21 per 1910). Am trying to verify Mindy Shaw's mother's name in case that's where the "Lunn" surname came from, but she was dead prior to 1910 and am not having any luck so far finding her in the 1880 census. If you think Mindy may have been a Shaw instead of a Lunn, would you let me know, please. If Shaw is not a possibility, I won't waste any more time on that search. Does Mindy have a grave marker? Does you dad remember if she had siblings (Millie, Richard, Rosa)? Thanks, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Fletcher To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:00 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas My father Fred Stringer was born to Lucius Stringer and wife Mindy Lunn (I believe) on Oct. 18, 1908 in San Jacinto County. I can't find any info on his mother. She died when he was 5 and I can't locate her family. The family's were feuding so lost touch. Can anyone help me? Thank you ever so much. Sincerely, Carol ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com> (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx> ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com> (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx> ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== Free Soundex code converter http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Thank you for looking for Walter and Vina Wright... This week I haven't had any luck finding my any of Family at all... These folks move around alots.... I do appreciate all the time and help you have given me in my search.... Thank you once again and God Bless... Sincerely Yours, Mary

In looking at this census, I don't believe that Mindy or her sister are the daughters of Jeff. The Shaw's had only been married 10yr. and these girls are 16 and 14. I believe that the wife is the Louisa Carnes age 11 found in San Jacinto County in 1880. I say this, because the Carnes are next door to the Shaws and Stringers in 1900,1910,1920,&1930. But this Carnes household and the ones on either side in 1880 is a mess, and I don't know how you will figure out what the true relationship is to all the members. I sure the answer to the true identity of Fred's mother lies in the 1890 census, which of course we do not have. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Murray<mailto:lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas Carol, Might Fred's mother have been Mindy Shaw instead of Lunn? Fred's family in the 1900 San Jacinto County census were living next door to Jeff Shaw's family. Jeff and his wife, whose name looks like Lun to me, had a daughter named Mindy, who was the same age Fred's mother gave on the 1910 census (born Feb 1888 per 1900 and age 21 per 1910). Am trying to verify Mindy Shaw's mother's name in case that's where the "Lunn" surname came from, but she was dead prior to 1910 and am not having any luck so far finding her in the 1880 census. If you think Mindy may have been a Shaw instead of a Lunn, would you let me know, please. If Shaw is not a possibility, I won't waste any more time on that search. Does Mindy have a grave marker? Does you dad remember if she had siblings (Millie, Richard, Rosa)? Thanks, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Fletcher To: TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:00 AM Subject: Re: [TX-CEN] San Jacinto County, Texas My father Fred Stringer was born to Lucius Stringer and wife Mindy Lunn (I believe) on Oct. 18, 1908 in San Jacinto County. I can't find any info on his mother. She died when he was 5 and I can't locate her family. The family's were feuding so lost touch. Can anyone help me? Thank you ever so much. Sincerely, Carol ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com> (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx> ==== TX-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com> (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>