According to my records, William Tuttle b. 1607 married Elizabeth Matthews b. abt 1610 in England, not Elizabeth Williams.

Symon Tuttle 1560 Ringstead North Hampton England d 6/16/1630 Ringstead marries Elizabeth Welles b abt. 1565 their child: William Tuttle b 12/26/1607 England d 1673 in Ct. marries Elizabeth William.I would like to have more on my William line also.. their child: Jonathon Tuttle 7/8/1637 Ma. marries Rebecca Bell her father is Francis Bell,I would like to have more on my Bell line also their daughter: Rebecca Tuttle marries Issac Dayton b 1655 NY I would like to connect with my Dayton ancestors also Thank you so Much for any help Flora Newby 3243 Old Chapel Spring Texas 77373 281 353 4226 newby@getus.com

I am new to the list and I am searching for any information on my grandmother, Meriam Tuttle, b. abt. 1875 in Emporia, KS. Possibly her father was John Murry Tuttle and mother Annette Winter. She was married to Harold Barks Minor, and had one child John Frederick Minor. He was born in Hannibal MO. Any information would be helpful. Thank you Kay ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Ebenezer Hatch bio mention Mrs. Emma Tuttle of Logan Co. IL. May help someone. She is not mine just passing on to help. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gen2/page610.htm

Seeking information on these families and ancestors of wives listed. Seventh Generation - -------------------------------------- 7. Stephen TUTTLE. Son of John TUTTLE & Mary BURROUGHS. Baptism 29 Jun 1707 in Lebanon, CT. He married Elizabeth THOMAS, daughter of Samuel THOMAS. They had the following children: 8 i. Stephen TUTTLE Eighth Generation - -------------------------------------- 8. Stephen TUTTLE. Son of Stephen TUTTLE & Elizabeth THOMAS. Baptism 27 Sep 1730 in Lebanon, CT. Died 1790. He first married Rebecca FRANKLIN. Died Before 14 Nov 1763. They had the following children: 9 i. James TUTTLE ii. Stephen TUTTLE; Born 1763. He second married Elizabeth GEER, daughter of Benejah GEER & Elizabeth CLARK, 14 Nov 1763 in Coventry, CT. Baptism 22 Dec 1734. They had the following children: i. Luther TUTTLE; Born 1766. Died 6 May 1823 in Bolton, NY. He married Martha ?. Ninth Generation - -------------------------------------- 9. James TUTTLE. Son of Stephen TUTTLE & Rebecca FRANKLIN. Born 2 Jul 1760 in Coventry, CT. Died After 29 Jun 1837. Military: See Revolutionary War Pension Application Papers R10776 He married Lovica WOLCOTT, 12 Nov 1778 in Montague, MA. They had the following children: 10 i. Stephen TUTTLE ii. Rebecca TUTTLE; Born 1783. She married Elisha BABCOCK. iii. Amanda TUTTLE; Born 1791. She married Luke MERRILL.

--part1_0.60fc11db.2594e3b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a Tuttle here, thought it was interesting. --part1_0.60fc11db.2594e3b0_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <MATTIX-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v67.6) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:57:32 1900 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v67.6) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:57:18 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17827; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:57:05 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:57:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:55:28 -0500 From: Nan & George Wolf <71532.734@compuserve.com> Subject: Names of those on Lewis & Clark Expedition Sender: Nan & George Wolf <71532.734@compuserve.com> Old-To: Mattix-L message addres <MATTIX-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <199912181355_MC2-9191-C554@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by bl-11.rootsweb.com id KAA17726 Resent-Message-ID: <Ba2t9B.A.cVE._j9W4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: MATTIX-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: MATTIX-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <MATTIX-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/236 X-Loop: MATTIX-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: MATTIX-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi: Thought this might be something that most people would like to have a copy of. Note that there is a Robertson even though he didn't stay long.. Regards, Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com - ------------------------------------------------

unsubscribe

Hi Jo Hogle >>: I no doubt have some information in my big pile of data to be input in the computer. It will be a while, but when I find something, then I will forward it. I have definitely seen Daniel information recently, so it exists. In the mean time go to: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sam/tuttlei.html I think you will find what you want there. After you get, then give us some feedback about what you discovered. I always welcome more information. William R. Tuttle, Esq. TuttleEsq@aol.com In a message dated 12/22/99 9:56:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, GenBrd@aol.com writes: << Subj: Daniel Tuttle and daughters, NY Date: 12/22/99 9:56:17 PM Eastern Standard Time From: GenBrd@aol.com To: TUTTLE-L@rootsweb.com Hello all, I am searching for some answers and it seems I need to go through the back door to get them. So I attempting to locate information on DANIEL TUTTLE in hopes of figuring out who his daughters married. I have very little information about this man. What I know is that he is the father of at least 3 females, all born in the state of New York. His wife had a last name of Carpenter but I can find no first name. The information on the couple came from the death card of 2 of the daughters. The daughters are: 1) Mary Tuttle b. 1834 in New York (or possibly Ohio) married a man with the surname of HASTINGS in Minnesota. She died Aug 5, 1902 and is buried in Champlin, MN. 2) Samaria Tuttle b Nov 28, 1822 in NY. Married a man named HASTINGS, probably before coming to Minnesota. She died July 28, 1902, and in supposedly buried in Champlin, MN. 3) Martha S. Tuttle b Nov 28, 1832 in NY. Married James V.B. Herrick before coming to Minnesota. She died July 11, 1905. I believe that the husband's of Samaria and Mary were brothers of my great great grandfather who also settled in the same area. I do not know who his parents were and am hoping to learn who his brothers were so that I can trace all of them back. Adding Martha gives an additional clue for all of you Tuttle folks. I have been searching for my great great grandfather, Chauncy Hastings for many years. Can anyone give me a wonderful Christmas present with clues to this Tuttle family? Thanks Jo Hogle >>

Hello all, I am searching for some answers and it seems I need to go through the back door to get them. So I attempting to locate information on DANIEL TUTTLE in hopes of figuring out who his daughters married. I have very little information about this man. What I know is that he is the father of at least 3 females, all born in the state of New York. His wife had a last name of Carpenter but I can find no first name. The information on the couple came from the death card of 2 of the daughters. The daughters are: 1) Mary Tuttle b. 1834 in New York (or possibly Ohio) married a man with the surname of HASTINGS in Minnesota. She died Aug 5, 1902 and is buried in Champlin, MN. 2) Samaria Tuttle b Nov 28, 1822 in NY. Married a man named HASTINGS, probably before coming to Minnesota. She died July 28, 1902 and in supposedly buried in Champlin, MN. 3) Martha S. Tuttle b Nov 28, 1832 in NY. Married James V.B. Herrick before coming to MInnesota. She died July 11, 1905. I beleive that the husband's of Samaria and Mary were brothers of my great great grandfather who also settled in the same area. I do not know who his parents were and am hoping to learn who his brothers were so that I can trace all of them back. Adding Martha gives an additional clue for all of you Tuttle folks. I have been searching for my great great grandfather, Chauncy Hastings for many years. Can anyone give me a wonderful Christmas present with clues to this Tuttle family? Thanks Jo Hogle

In a message dated 12/22/99 12:46:14 AM, TuttleEsq@aol.com writes: << I will suggest one other possibility that is just my own idea and not based upon fact. At various times in ancient history the Scottish folks migrated from Scotland to Ireland. That is why the Irish play the bagpipes and wear plaid clothing, etc., just the way the Scottish do. Maybe the early TUTTLES, with various name spellings, actually migrated originally from Scotland to Ireland then to England then to the "New World" in North America. >> You really have this backwards! You may want to do so research on this & steady some history! Scotus = Is Latin for "Irishmen" Gaels = Of Scotland, descend from Gaelic settlers of Ireland Note: This is especially true of the Scottish Highlanders! Celt = Also Kelt, One of an ancient people of western & central Europe, including the Britons & Gaels. Happy hunting, Helen

Hello everyone, I got my families mixed up royally this time. Sorry about the confusion. I know we are talking about Tuttles and NOT Pearces! So Sorry, ignore my last post, please. Ruth

Hello Bob, When I was visiting England, I was able to visit Alnwick and Alnwick Castle, the herediatry home of the Percys in England. One legend that is told there is that when Henry Percy was rejected by Ann Boelyn in favor of King Henry VIII, Henry Percy left England, traveling to Ireland as part of the "peace keeping forces" the British had stationed there. This would have been in the 1500s. Henry supposedly stayed in Ireland, and the family lands went to a brother or a cousin when Elizabeth assended the throne. One line of Percy>Pearce was supposed to have immigrated to America from Ireland during the Potato Famine. Ruth This legend (for lack of a better word) has been in my family for several generations, and in a nutshell, puts forth the theory > that the family lost its ancestral lands and was dispossessed by the English > at some point in time. >

Hi Shaggy: Do you know how unique your information is? I have seen a lot of information and emailed to and from a lot of people during the past 6 months, but none at all have discussed the area of family history involving Ireland where you seem to know so much. Maybe I am wrong, but I believe that most of the people doing research on the TUTTLES are not familiar with what you have learned. Amazing. Got to go now, but I will want to learn more and keep tracing these new areas. I look forward to hearing from you again soon. Happy Holidays! William R. Tuttle, Esq. TuttleEsq@aol.com In a message dated 12/22/99 11:49:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, shaggy2@gateway.net writes: << ----- Original Message ----- From: <HMWEBBER@aol.com> To: < > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Tuttles in Ireland? > Hi Bob, > > When I was on Ireland an asked about the name TUTTLE - TUTHILL > name, I was told by the people in Co. Clare & Co. Limerick that the > TUTTLES in that area came from England with Oliver CROMWELL about > 1649. > > > About the name! > > Tuthill, Tuttle, Tothill > An English toponymic. Families of the name acquired properties under > the CROMWELLIAN & Restoration settlements in Co. Limerick & other > parts of the country. > > (O) Tohill O Tuathail (for derivation see Toole). The name of this > Derry sept, whose location is indicated by the parish of Desertoghill, > was formerly anglicized O' Tuohill. O'Donovan found it as Toghill > a century ago; it is now Tohill. > > (O) Toohill A form of O' Toole found in south Munster. > > Tothill See Tuthill > > (O) Touhill See Toohill > > Turtle English > > Twohill See Toohill > > (O) Toole O Tuathail (tuathal, people mighty). This is one of the > great Leinster septs. Originally of Co. Kildare they moved to Co. > Wicklow after the Anglo-Norman invasion & held their own there > for 500 years. There was also a branch in Mayo where, according to > Hardiman, there was also a distinct sept, an offshoot of the O'Malleys. > > Note: All the above is from "The Surnames of IRELAND" by MacLYSAGHT > > TUTTLE, TUTHILL, TULLE, TWOHILL, TOOHILL, TURTLE, TUTTELL > (English) > Dweller at a toot-hill. ie, a hill with a good outlook to detect an enemy's > approach; one who came from Tothill, (lookout hill), the name of places in > Lincolnshire & Middlesex > > "MORE IRISH FAMILIES" by MacLysaght: > TUTTY, TUTHILL >I have found no evidence to support Woulfe's statement that TUTTY is an > anglicized form of O'TUATAIGH, which, he says, is a variant of O'TUATHAIGH > (Tuohy). > The occurrence of O'THOUTY, (probably a clerical error of O'TOUTHY), in a > Fiant, (Co. Tipperary 1585), can hardly be regarded as a link with TUTTY. As TUTTY it occurs but rarely in our records & never to my knowledge, before the Cromwellian period when two Londoners of the name appear among the "adventurers" for Irish land. >TUTTY is included in the list prepared by the Registaar-General in 1891 as used synonymously with TUTHILL. TUTHILL is an English toponymic, quite distinct from TOHILL (q.v.). It first appears in Ireland in the army of 1640s. Families of the name acquired property in Co. Limerick & several other parts of the country > under the land settlement of the Cromwellian & Restoration periods: They retained their place among the three following centuries. John TUTHILL's unedifying part in > the 1817 Limerick election is still remembered. Bibl. > Bibl. see Bibliography of Irish Family History > > TUTHILL: Pedigree of TUTHILL of Peamore, Co. Devon, of Kilmore & Faha, Co. > Limerick by Lt. Col. P.B. TUTHILL, [refer: A Simple Guide to Irish Genealogy]. > > > Note: My Patrick TUTTLE'S name has been spelled as the following" > > TUTTHILL (on the passenger ship list) > > TURTLE (on his marriage record & one of his son's marriage record) > > TUTTELL (on a census record) > > TUTTLE (on other records & the way the family spells it) > >Here is some info I forgot to send you before when I sent the info on my Patrick TUTTLE of Ireland. > > 2 Oct 1880---became a Citizen of the U.S., Court of Common Pleas, > Philadelphia, PA. His sponsor/witness was John > McSHANE of Chester, PA. Both signed with an X. > > TUTTLE Street--named for Patrick TUTTLE, located in Trainer, > Delaware County, PA, between Price & Wilcox Sts. & > starts at 2nd St. up to Mary St. (alley). Mary St. is > believed to me named after his wife. > > TUTTLEVILLE---is the lower section of Trainer from Stony Creek to > Trainer St. & from the Delaware River to 4th St. most > of this area was owned by the TUTTLES. People living > in the area today (1995) still refer to it as TUTTLEVILLE > or Little Tuttleville. > > Cause of death---old age. > > Feb 1989---Patrick TUTTLE's name was placed on THE WALL of > IMMIGRATION at Ellis Island by Helen M (WEBBER) > Imburgia for a $100.00 donation. > May 1996---Patrick TUTTLE's name was placed on THE IMMIGRATES > WALL at the Delaware Co. Court House by Helen M. > (WEBBER) Imburgia for a $130.00 donation. > > ==== TUTTLE Mailing List ==== >>

Hi Bob, When I was on Ireland an asked about the name TUTTLE - TUTHILL name, I was told by the people in Co. Clare & Co. Limerick that the TUTTLES in that area came from England with Oliver CROMWELL about 1649. About the name! Tuthill, Tuttle, Tothill An English toponymic. Families of the name acquired properties under the CROMWELLIAN & Restoration settlements in Co. Limerick & other parts of the country. (O) Tohill O Tuathail (for derivation see Toole). The name of this Derry sept, whose location is indicated by the parish of Desertoghill, was formerly anglicized O' Tuohill. O'Donovan found it as Toghill a century ago; it is now Tohill. (O) Toohill A form of O' Toole found in south Munster. Tothill See Tuthill (O) Touhill See Toohill Turtle English Twohill See Toohill (O) Toole O Tuathail (tuathal, people mighty). This is one of the great Leinster septs. Originally of Co. Kildare they moved to Co. Wicklow after the Anglo-Norman invasion & held their own there for 500 years. There was also a branch in Mayo where, according to Hardiman, there was also a distinct sept, an offshoot of the O'Malleys. Note: All the above is from "The Surnames of IRELAND" by MacLYSAGHT TUTTLE, TUTHILL,TULLE, TWOHILL, TOOHILL, TURTLE, TUTTELL (English) Dweller at a toot-hill. ie, a hill with a good outlook to detect an enemy�s approach; one who came from Tothill, (lookout hill), the name of places in Lincolnshire & Middesex. "MORE IRISH FAMILIES" by MacLysaght: TUTTY, TUTHILL I have found no evidence to support Woulfe�s statement that TUTTY is an anglicized form of O�TUATAIGH, which, he says, is a variant of O�TUATHAIGH (Tuohy). The occurrence of O�THOUTY, (probably a clerical error of O�TOUTHY), in a Fiant, (Co. Tipperary 1585), can hardly be regarded as a link with TUTTY. As TUTTY it occurs but rarely in our records & never to my knowledge, before the Cromwellian period when two Londoners of the name appear among the �adventurers� for Irish land. TUTTY is included in the list prepared by the Registaar-General in 1891 as used synonymously with TUTHILL. TUTHILL ia an English toponymic, quite distinct from TOHILL (q.v.). It first appears in Ireland in the army of 1640s. Families of the name acquired property in Co. Limerick & several other parts of the country under the land settlement of the Cromwellian & Restoration periods: They retained their place among the three following centuries. John TUTHILL�s unedifying part in the 1817 Limerick election is still remembered. Bibl. Bibl. see Bibliography of Irish Family History TUTHILL: Pedigree of TUTHILL of Peamore, Co. Devon, of Kilmore & Faha, Co. Limerick by Lt. Col. P.B. TUTHILL, [refer: A Simple Guide to Irish Genealogy]. Note: My Patrick TUTTLE'S name has been spelled as the following" TUTTHILL (on the passenger ship list) TURTLE (on his marriage record & one of his son's marriage record) TUTTELL (on a census record) TUTTLE (on other records & the way the family spells it) Here is some info I forgot to send you before when I sent the info on my Patrick TUTTLE of Ireland. 2 Oct 1880---became a Citizen of the U.S., Court of Common Pleas, Philadelphia, PA. His sponsor/witness was John McSHANE of Chester, PA. Both signed with an X. TUTTLE Street---named for Patrick TUTTLE, located in Trainer, Delaware County, PA, between Price & Wilcox Sts. & starts at 2nd St. up to Mary St. (alley). Mary St. is believed to me named after his wife. TUTTLEVILLE---is the lower section of Trainer from Stony Creek to Trainer St. & from the Delaware River to 4th St. most of this area was owned by the TUTTLES. People living in the area today (1995) still refer to it as TUTTLEVILLE or Little Tuttleville. Cause of death---old age. Feb 1989---Patrick TUTTLE's name was placed on THE WALL of IMMIGRATION at Ellis Island by Helen M (WEBBER) Imburgia for a $100.00 donation. May 1996---Patrick TUTTLE's name was placed on THE IMMIGRATES WALL at the Delaware Co. Court House by Helen M. (WEBBER) Imburgia for a $130.00 donation.

The Tothill Street referred to, sometimes called Tuthill, or Tuttle Street, is thus spoken of by Stow From the entry into Totehill field, the Street (Tuttle Street) is called Petty France." Hatton describes it as "a large Street in Westminster, between Petty France, west, and the Old Gate House, east." Peter Cunningham says, Such is Hattons description, but the Gate House has long been level with the ground, and Petty France has since been transferred into York Street. Our notions have also changed about its size; no one would now call it "a large street." TUTHILL, TOTHILL, or TOTEHILL, and its various modifications (for in olden times; orthographical certainty was but little regarded), as a patronymic or family name, can in England be traced back in an unbroken line as far as the thirteenth century but if the old Irish histories are to be credited, the ancestry of the Tuthills is still more ancient, commencing, as they aver, in the dark and benighted ages prior to the Christian era. They all concur in stating them to be of Milesian descent, through the well known sept or tribe of O'Toole (which seems to be but a variation of the name), and that their territory extended over a great portion of the beautiful hills and valleys in what is now known as the Counties of Wicklow and Kildare. They would appear to have been a warlike race, for when Ireland was overrun by the English, they heroically refused to submit to their rule, carrying on for many years an unequal contest against the armed hosts of a tyrannical invader. Camden, the father of English antiquaries, says, "The O'Tools and O'Birns obstinately withstand all law, and live in implacable enmity with the English." It is noteworthy that he applies the name O'Tool and O'Tothill indiscriminately ; for in again speaking to them he says, "In 1311, Tassagard and Rathcante were invaded by ay after St. the rapparies; namely the O'Brinnes and O'Tothlies the day after St. John Baptist's nativity ; whereupon in the autumn soon after, a great army was raised in Leinster to defeat them, both in Glendelory (Glendalough) and in other woody places." "In 1331, O'Toole the Chieftain of Imail, at the head of a numerous band plundered the castle and demesne of Talloght (5 1/2 miles S. W. by W. from Dublin), slew many of the Archbishop of Dublin) slew many people, and defeated Sir Philip Britt and a body of Dublin men who had been sent against him." " In 1398, O'Byne and O'Toole fought a battle against the English, in which Mortimer, Earl of March, and a vast number of the English, were slain. McDermot (the annotator of the "Annals of Ireland by the Four Masters") says "the territory of the O'Tuathail's; or O'Toole's chieftains of Hy Muireadhaigh, or Hy Murray, was quite an extensive domain, in the western part of Wicklow, comprising the greater portion of the present baronies of Talbotstown and Shilelagh, in that county, and extended as far as Almain, now the hill of Allen, in the County of Kildare, thus containing a great portion of the baronies of Naas, Kilcullen, Kilkea and Moone, and Connell in that county. The O'Tooles were in ancient times styled princes of Imaile, which appears to have been a name applied to their territory, and is still retained in the Glen of Imaile in Wicklow, where they had their chief residence; and they also had castles in Carnew, Castle Kevin, Castledermot and other places They took their name from Tuathal, one of the early kings of Ireland, from whom they derive their descent, and being one of the head families of Leinister, of the same race as the McMurroghs, they were eligible to be kings of that province. The celebrated St. Laurence O'Toole, Archbishop of Dublin, at the time of the English invasion, was son of Murtogh O'Toole, Prince of Imaile; and many distinguished chiefs of the name are mentioned in the course of these annals. They maintained their rank, and held large possessions down to the Elizabethian and Cromwellian wars, when their estates were confiscated; several of them were knighted at various periods, and Sir Charles O'Toole, an officer in King James's army, is said to have been the person who killed the Duke Schomberg at the battle of the Boyne; and several of them were distinguished officers in the Irish brigades in the service of France and Spain. The O'Tooles are still numerous in the counties of Wicklow, Dublin and Kildare." The illustrious prelate, thus referred to as St. Laurence O'Toole, and whom Camden calls Laurene O'Thothill is quite a distinguished character in Irish history. He was born in A.D. 1105. His father, Murtogh O'Tuathail or O'Toole, was the Chieftain of Hy Muray, and his mother a daughter of the kindred tribe of O'Byrne. His possessions comprised about half of the present county of Kildare, from which he was dispossessed by the English invaders and driven into the fastnesses of Wicklow. Laurence became so celebrated for his learning and piety, that when he had attained his twenty-fifth year, he was made abbot of Glendalough, and upon the death of Gregory, the first archbishop of Dublin, was by acclamation seated in the archiepiscopal chair, in which he continued until his death in 1180. He was so renowned for his sanctity, that in 1226 (forty-six years after his decease), he was canonized by Pope Honorius III., and thus, says his biographer, " a scion of the old Celtic race was placed on the calendar of Saints." Lower, in his Patronymica Brittanica,says that the"O'Tooles or O'Tuoghalls claim an ancient Milesian descent from Cathaor More, King of Leinster, of the Heremonian race, ancestor of Laogaore, the first Christian monarch of Ireland, contemporary with St. Patrick." The early history of Ireland, before the introduction of Christianity is somewhat obscure; but according to Keating, O'Flaherty and the and old annalists, the Milesians were originally a colony from Scythia, pear the Euxine and Caspian seas, now called t he Crimea. The Scythians, who were by the Roman writers designated Celto-Scythians, were the most ancient inhabitants of Europe after the deluge, and were descendants of Japhet. They formed settlements in Spain, and Milesius, one of their race, became king. Heremon, Heber, and Ir, the sons of Milesus, came to Ireland With a large fleet and a powerful army, and, after a sanguinary battle, became masters of the whole country, and according to Keating gave to its throne 171 kings, the most of whom (as well as the early kings of Scotland) were descendants of the Heremonian branch of this ancient race. One of the most renowned of these Milesian monarchs was Tuathal Teachtmar, or Tuathal the acceptable (he obtained the sobriquet of Teachtmar, the welcome or acceptable, from his being the deliverer of the nation from the tyrants of a hated oligarchy). Tuathal is celebrated as one of the greatest of the Irish kings for his wisdom and [Firbolgs] he was forced to fly from the kingdom to North Britain, but returned A.D. 130, and after fighting 85 battles was successful in recovering the crown. During his reign, which lasted thirty years, he reformed the abuses and corruptions that had prevailed in public affairs, and introduced in Ireland a state of plenty and tranquillity never known in it before. Warner naively says, "It must be observed that until this reign, few or none of the ancient Irish would submit to any trade or manual labor, lest they should degrade their origin, or bring a stain upon their families; but when they saw that by the order of this wise monarch, the legislature took trade and manufactures under their special care and management, many of the Milesians condescended to follow some employment and to make themselves good for something besides cutting one another's throats." This good king was slain in battle by an usurper whose name is given as Mal or Mail, who reigned four years, when Feidlim, the son if Tuathal, avenged his father's death, by staying the usurper and regaining the crown. Feidlim was, from his great love of justice, surnamed the Legislator. He not only gave excellent examples of equitable government in his own private conduct, but by causing wise and wholesome laws to be enacted, the people of Ireland became more humane, honest and contented than they ever were before. His just and useful administration continued for nine years, when he died a natural death (a somewhat unusual circumstance in those turbulent days), and was succeeded by his son Cathoire More or Cathir the Great, from whose youngest son, Fiacha Barceanda, the O'Tooles claim a lineal descent. The connetion, if any, between the Tuthill or Tothill family of England and that of the same name in Ireland, is perhaps at this time unknown; at any rate, I have never yet been able to obtain any documentary proof that our English ancestors were originally from Ireland, although the conjecture is a plausible one. The celebrated Edmund Spencer, who resided a short time in Ireland, and who in 1596 wrote his " View of the state of Ireland," says the O'Tooles are so called from the old British word Tol, i. e. a hill country. And the idea of a common origin has some support from the descriptions and illustrations of heraldry: the coat of arms of the O'Tooles of Ireland being a lion passant, argent; the Totyls of Wales, a lion rampant, sable; the Tothills of Devonshire, a lion passant, sable; the Totehills of Yorkshire bearing as a crest, a lion statant gules, and the Tuthills of Cambridgeshire and Norfolkshire the like crest of a lion statant gules, ducally crowned, collared and lined, or. The lion, one of the emblems of the highest nobility, being the conspicuous bearing of the families, would indicate a common descent. Nor is an emigration of some of the tribe of the O'Tooles to England, after the confiscation of their estates, at all improbable. It is well known that during the days of Wallace and Bruce, large numbers of the native Irish acted as auxiliaries to the English in the wars between that nation and Scotland; and it is not an improbable surmise that many of them, after their term of service expired, preferred to remain and make their homes in England, there to live in peace and security, instead of returning to their native country, devastated by civil war and cursed by dissensions, anarchy and strife. In Rymer's Foedera will be found a mandate issued to David O'Tothill setting forth that the king (Edward 11.) was about to march against his Scottish rebels, and requiring Of him, as the chief of his tribe, the attendance of all the force he could muster, commanded by himself in person, or by some nobleman of his race. But after all, it is of little importance to us as citizens of the Great Republic, whether or not we have any well-founded claim to noble blood or royal descent from the old Milesian monarchs of Ireland. Our own direct ancestry in England is doubtless ancient enough to satisfy any of their descendants in this country, unless they should have a genealogical mania more intense than my own, which I may say, by way of parenthesis, is entirely unnecessary."

Friends, I received this yesterday, and I thought I would pass it along. It contains the text of the book I mentioned as having some information of an Irish origin. I read the book at the Denver Public Library some years ago, and I would have to go back and try to find it in order to get the title and authors name. I will do this as soon as I am able, but probably not until after the first of the year. I'll let everyone know when I do. Until then, read this, and let me know what you think. (p.s.: due to its length, I am sending it in 2 parts) Happy Holidays, Bob Tuttle AnEadaigh@aol.com "...among the Puritan fathers who left their comfortable English homes, for a wild, trackless, American wilderness, to enjoy the inestimable privilege of Religious Liberty; and who by the aid of Divine Providence became the founders of a mighty Republic, that has made itself one of the greatest Powers among the nations of the earth. Not quite two centuries and a half have passed away, since the first emigrants landed on the sterile shores of New England, and none could then have anticipated the glorious future of their descendants. And yet that heroic band of worthies were of the class of men from which great nations rise : Of the pure Anglo-Saxon race, of the school of Hampden and Milton, they had indeed a noble ancestry; for, in the beautiful language of William Stoughton in his Election sermon, 1668, God sifted a whole nation that he might send choice reed into the wilderness." The suggestion has been made, that I should at this time give you a history of the Tuthill family. It was doubtless supposed that such an undertaking was within my power, the supposition perhaps arising from the fact that for a number of years I have been collecting all the accessible information within my reach, relating to the subject, with the intention of eventually completing a veritable History. This I have found an arduous task, and, I regret to add, not altogether successful, for while it is true that an immense mass of crude and undigested material hag been obtained, it is mostly in disjointed fragments, with some connecting link wanting to make a harmonious whole. But even if such History was fully and successfully completed, it would be impossible within the limited time allowed for an ordinary address, to give a detailed account of the family and its connections; so I shall confine myself to a brief and concise statement of its origin, and a mere sketch of the several branches in England and Ireland, with a few observations relating to some of the early settlers in this country; believing that a glance of this kind over the history of former generations, dull as antiquarian lore is generally supposed to be, will be found somewhat interesting, at least to this assembly. TOTHILL, or TUTHILL, as the name of a place, is found in various localities in England, some of the places thus named being so ancient that even the derivation of the word has not been fully ascertained, and the most learned antiquarians differ widely as to its original meaning or signification. Tot or Tut, says Blomefield, " is the name of a rivulet, and gives name to many places, thus Tottenhill and Tutbury in Staffordshire; Tutwell in Warwickshire; Tottington in Norfolk, &c.upon which Lysons remarks, "the meaning of Tot, Tut, or Tote, which I suppose to be descriptive, is no where I think satisfactorily defined; it occurs in the Dames of many places besides those above mentioned, as Toteham in Essex ; Totham, or Toteham, now Tottenham, in Middlesex; Tothele, or Totehall, now Tottenham Court, in the parish of Pancras; Totteridge, &c." Bedwell derives Totenham from the words toten and ham, the first of which he says "signifies to project with a long end or corner like a horn;" while Baxter says that the words Toteham and Totenham are from the Saxon Deodholm and Deodanholm; Deod in old Saxon meaning both populus and publicus, the Gothic Thioda signifying populus, whence a King was called Thioda, or publicus; the ancient German word Thiota, and the modern diet are identical, and mean both populus and conventus; and so the British Tut or Tute, and the Irish Tuat. Tothills occur in many parts of England, in the several forms of Tot, Tut, Toot, Tote, &c.; one of them, Tuthill, near Thetford, in Norfolk County, has been so called from the time of the memorable battle between King Edward the Martyr, and the Danes, in 871, and is supposed to have been raised by the Danes over the bodies of their countrymen who were slain in the battle. Peter Cunningham, in describing Tothill Fields, London, says, "the origin of Tothill in this instance appears to be that given in an ancient lease, which particularizes a close, called the Toothill, other wise the Beacon field. There is a place of the same name near Coernarvon Castle, also called the Beacon Hill. It is probable that the close called the Toothill was the highest level in the immediate vicinity of Westminster, an t therefore suitable for a beacon." This place (Tothill Fields, Westminster) is frequently mentioned by the old writers. Lamborde says, "by reason of its largness and drye ground, it bath served for the most part to decide the Wages of Batteil in, for such as have proceeded by ordinary award in law. Our Bokes, 41 Edward IV. (1367.) 9 Henry IV. (1403), and 21 Henry VI. (1443), may give example abundantly. "It seems to have been used for various purposes, as will be seen from the following extracts relating to it-the name, it will be observed, is variously spelled. Hovedon says, "a chaplain to Jeffrey the archebyshop of Yorke, called Raulf Wigtofte, which in the tyme of Richard 1. (1189 to 1195) had provyded at Rome a Gyrdle and a Ringe cunningly intoxicated, wherewith he ment to have dispatched Symon, the Deane of York and others ; but his messenger was intercepted, and his Girdle and Ringe burned at this Place before the People." Stow says, " In 1248 Henry Ill. devised the expediency of granting a fifteen days annual fair, to the Abbot of Westminster, to be held at Tuthill or Tothill (now Tothill Fields), strictly commanding that during that time all trade should cease within the City." In the " Dictionarium Anglia Topographicum et Historicum," it is recorded that " In the time of King Edward I. (1272 to 1307), the Ryver of Thamise swelled so farre over his Boundes, that it overflowed at Tothyll, as Matthew of Westminster reporteth." "In 1371 a Fellow was taken practisinge with a dead Mari's Heade, and brought to the Barre at the Kings Benche, wheare after Abjuration of his Arte, his trinckets were taken from him, carried to Tothyl, and burned before his face." It appears to have been possessed as a Manor in the reign of Henry 111, by John Maunsel, who rose to the dignity of Lord Chancellor of England. Here he entertained the King and his Court (1246), the company being so numerous that they were accommodated in large tents, his own house being too small. In 1441, says the Chronicle of London, was a " fighting at the Tothill, between two thefes, a pelour and a defendant, and the pelour hadde the field and victory of the defendant within three strokes." & Stow, with his usual minuteness of description, gives an account of a " Wager of Battell " fought there on the 18th of June, 1571, calling it Tuthill Fields. Whitelocke says, "The Trained Bands of London, Westminster, &c., on the 25 Aug., 1651, drew out into Tuttle Fields, in all about 14,000. The Speaker and divers members of the Parliament went there to see them." This "ancient close "adjoins Westminster Abbey, and was once within the limits of the sanctuary of that house, and comprised that portion of land between Tothill Street, Pimlico, and the river Thames; this a somewhat uncertain. boundary. but it is the best that can be given, for, as Jeremy Bentham said, writing in 1778: "If a place could exist, of which it might be said that it was in no neighborhood, it would be Tothill Fields."

unsubscribe

Hi Bob Tuttle: I think your information (shown below) is interesting and possibly it might be correct. You are right that you can track the TUTTLES back a long way and then it seems to end (1400-1500), so maybe the portion of history before that period (900-1400) actually lies in Ireland. I will suggest one other possibility that is just my own idea and not based upon fact. At various times in ancient history the Scottish folks migrated from Scotland to Ireland. That is why the Irish play the bagpipes and wear plaid clothing, etc., just the way the Scottish do. Maybe the early TUTTLES, with various name spellings, actually migrated originally from Scotland to Ireland then to England then to the "New World" in North America. This is all very amusing to me because when my mother fought with my father, which was often, regular and brutal, she would try to hurt him and his feelings by saying the TUTTLES spent a generation in Ireland on the way to America. Wouldn't it just be a hoot if she turned out to actually be correct. I have never been desirous of being Irish (up to now), but maybe it wouldn't be so bad after all. We are what we are, somebody said. What fun we are having learning about our past. Happy New Year! William R. Tuttle, Esq. TuttleEsq@aol.com In a message dated 12/21/99 2:26:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, AnEadaigh@aol.com writes: << Subj: Tuttles in Ireland? Date: 12/21/99 2:26:54 PM Eastern Standard Time From: AnEadaigh@aol.com To: TUTTLE-L@rootsweb.com Dear Extended Family (for that is indeed what we all are as Tuttles and Tuttle descendants), With regard to my previous e-mail concerning the Irish origin / connection to the Tuttle family, that info came from the book about the ancestors and descendants of William Tuttle, which I mentioned in my previous e-mail. However, after posting it to the list, it seems to have generated at least a small amount of unhappiness among some. Apparently, at least judging from some of the e-mail I have received regarding it, there are those who do not take kindly to the idea of a possible Irish origin or connection. Please let me say that I do not have any concrete definitive "proof" that the Tuttle family has an Irish origin, and that I only put forth what I have read regarding it. The idea did not originate from me, but as I said, came from the book on William Tuttle's ancestors and descendants, which I read at the Denver Public Library's Genealogy Department. This theory seems to be somewhat corroborated by both John Tuttle's journey to Ireland (he lived and died in Carrickfergus), which he and others have described as his journey "back" to Ireland (which would indicate either an earlier journey or a possible origin), as well as a traditional family legend that has been handed down through my family. This legend (for lack of a better word) has been in my family for several generations, and in a nutshell, puts forth the theory that the family lost its ancestral lands and was dispossessed by the English at some point in time. Since the family line becomes increasingly hard to trace prior to 1500 (at least for me), it is more difficult to either disprove or prove this legend / theory. I do not claim that the family's Irish origins are undeniably proven or written in stone as they say, and I am more than willing to hear, with an open mind, any evidence which points in either direction. I do believe that this should at least be investigated and given the benefit of the doubt as a possibility, however remote. For those of you who responded to me, thanks for touching base with me, and I both respect and appreciate each of your comments. I hope this discussion can continue, and who knows, perhaps some information will surface which will surprise us all. Again, thank you all, I always enjoy hearing from other Tuttle's around the country and world. Happy Holidays, Bob Tuttle AnEadaigh@aol.com >>

Dear Extended Family (for that is indeed what we all are as Tuttles and Tuttle descendants), With regard to my previous e-mail concerning the Irish origin / connection to the Tuttle family, that info came from the book about the ancestors and descendants of William Tuttle, which I mentioned in my previous e-mail. However, after posting it to the list, it seems to have generated at least a small amount of unhappiness among some. Apparently, at least judging from some of the e-mail I have received regarding it, there are those who do not take kindly to the idea of a possible Irish origin or connection. Please let me say that I do not have any concrete definitive "proof" that the Tuttle family has an Irish origin, and that I only put forth what I have read regarding it. The idea did not originate from me, but as I said, came from the book on William Tuttle's ancestors and descendants, which I read at the Denver Public Library's Genealogy Department. This theory seems to be somewhat corroborated by both John Tuttle's journey to Ireland (he lived and died in Carrickfergus), which he and others have described as his journey "back" to Ireland (which would indicate either an earlier journey or a possible origin), as well as a traditional family legend that has been handed down through my family. This legend (for lack of a better word) has been in my family for several generations, and in a nutshell, puts forth the theory that the family lost its ancestral lands and was dispossessed by the English at some point in time. Since the family line becomes increasingly hard to trace prior to 1500 (at least for me), it is more difficult to either disprove or prove this legend / theory. I do not claim that the family's Irish origins are undeniably proven or written in stone as they say, and I am more than willing to hear, with an open mind, any evidence which points in either direction. I do believe that this should at least be investigated and given the benefit of the doubt as a possibility, however remote. For those of you who responded to me, thanks for touching base with me, and I both respect and appreciate each of your comments. I hope this discussion can continue, and who knows, perhaps some information will surface which will surprise us all. Again, thank you all, I always enjoy hearing from other Tuttle's around the country and world. Happy Holidays, Bob Tuttle AnEadaigh@aol.com

hey I am repling to the genarations of Tuttles starting at gen # 5 John Tuttle who married Mary Holyoke, John son of Richard was born feb,12,1625. John and Mary Had 7 kids ask and ill give names.6GenarationEdward Tuttle Sr born Sep12 1651 he married Abigail Floydd.they had shows only one child.7 Genaration Edward Tuttle Jr born jan ,2 1680 he married Joanna Hanna Floyd, he remarried after her death . Edward Jr and Hannah Floyd had shown 1 child. 8 genaration Samule Tuttle srborn feb 10,1715 he married Anna SargeantThey had 2 kids one was where my line starts as i know Richard Tuttle born abt 1754 he marriee ? they had shown 1 son .and then it goes Josiaih Tuttle and Hannah jane Elder, shows 5 kids . Then their was Thomas Conant Tuttle sr, he married Elizabeth F Anderson they had 8 kids, Thomas C Tuttle Jr bornjan 1 1844 he married Emily Underwood, They had seven kids , then William Stanley Tuttle bornjan 14 1879,he married Minnie belle Arrasmith, then Gerald u Tuttle my grand pa born 1901/2 he married Elizabeth Carpenter,Then Gerald K Tuttle Sr born 1935, he married Sarah ann Howard ,they had 4 kids and one was me Gerald K Tuttle Jr I married Debbie dee dowd we have three kids and one is Gerald K Tuttle lll, Not married yet only 17, hop[em some one can connect. Merry Christmas, Have a Safe and Wonderful Holiday filled with Family and love and if you have no family ask Jesus to spend it with you he is always there! Gerald K Tuttle Jr ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnEadaigh@aol.com> To: <TUTTLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 10:56 PM Subject: More on Tuttles in Ireland and my line > I read in a very old copy of a book about the Tuttle family (I believe it was > the history of William Tuttle and his descendants, with biographical info on > his brothers Richard and John), that the name and the family are of Irish > origin, with some of the original spellings of the name being: Ò Toole, Ò > Tothile, Ò Tothill, Ò Tuathail, Ò Tuoghall, Ò Tothville, Touthill, Toythill, > Totehill, Tothele, Touttle, and other spellings. The book went on to say that > the Tuttle’s are descended from the O’Toole family, one of the great clans > of Leinster. They take their name from one of the earliest and greatest kings > of Leinster, Tuathal (pronounced TOO-HALL, but as one word, not two) who died > in 956 AD. The O’Tooles possessed the southern half of the fertile lands of > County Kildare, until they were driven from these ancestral lands, to the > valleys and hills of Wicklow, by Anglo-Norman invaders in 1172. > The basic beginnings I have of my specific family line are as follows (this > is bare bones so to speak): > First Generation: > Thomas Totehyll / Tolevil / Thothyll / Touttle was born in > Woodford-next-Thrapston, > Northamptonshire, England in the year 1506. In 1529 he was married there to a > woman we know only as “his wyffe.” Her birth was recorded as 1508, an in > England also. Of their children, we have only information on one son, Richard > B. Totehyll. > > Second Generation: > Richard Totehyll was born June 15, 1530 in Woodford-next-Thrapston, > Northamptonshire, England, and died March 11, 1587/88 in > Woodford-next-Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England. He married Elizabeth > (last name unknown) > Richard and Elizabeth had 5 children, including Symon. > > Third Generation : > Symon Totehyll was born around 1560 in Ringstead, Northamptonshire, England, > and > died June 30, 1630 in Ringstead, Northamptonshire, England. In 1590, Symon > married Isabel Wells in Ringstead, Northamptonshire, England, daughter of > John and Elizabeth Wells. > Symon and Isabel had 7 children, including Richard, John, and William. > > Fourth Generation: > Richard Tothill was born 1593 in Ringstead, Northamptonshire, England. > Richard was > married twice, first married to Joan Grafton and second marriage to Anne > Taylor. When he was 42 years of age, Richard came to America with his > family, his mother Isabel, and his brothers William and John (along with > their families) in 1635 aboard the ship “Planter.” He settled in Rumney > Marsh (now known as Chelsea), Mass. Richard died May 08, 1640 in Boston, > Suffolk Co, Mass. > > My line descends from Richard. I have more info, but this is about all I can > fit in an e-mail. If you can help me get back farther, and also help me with > some specifics of Thomas, Richard and Symon, I would also be grateful. I am > willing to share what I have in more detail, and I can send out attachments > if you like. I don't know if my family history program does gedcoms or not. > If not I can send a .wps (word processor) file attachment which shows what I > have more in depth. I look forward to hearing from you all soon, and I hope > someone will be able to help me with this. Thanks, and Happy Holidays! > Sincerely, > Bob Tuttle > AnEadaigh@aol.com > > > ==== TUTTLE Mailing List ==== > ** To stop receiving email from this list > ** send the Message: unsubscribe > ** to TUTTLE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >