I am gonna try again, sigh. I have John Turner bn 1793 in KY somewhere, don't you all love the somewhere's??. John Turner m. Jane Odell who was bn 1797 in Cocke Co., TN; the daughter of Issac and Abigail Odell. Those researching this family have been able to document to this point and into the future. But we cannot get back farther than John. John and Jane had the following children in Ray/Clay Co's. James J. ; Littleton; Nancy "Sally" Odell Turner; Ellen; Thomas; Joshua; Martha; John; Joseph; and Artema. One thought the name Artema seems to have some significance (sp) becuase the name Artema goes down the line of Nancy a couple of generation. Bev