Bev, In answer to your query: Time to try this again, sigh. John Turner bn abt 1793 in KY, m. Jane Odell. I have heard that John was in ILL for a while. Does anyone have any idea where in KY he might have been born or to whom??? Bev Try checking into records from Hickman County, Kentucky. I am searching for my Great Grandfather, Frank A. Turner, who lived in Hickman County, Kentucky ... was married to Lizzie Watts ... and my Grandfather, Benjamin James Arthur Turner was born there in 1896. Frank also lived in ILL for a while. May have even been born there. Joyce Turner Watts VCI WebMail http://www.vci.net