My Turners came to Canada from Dumbartonshire, Scotland and emigrated to Delaware County in the early 1820s. They had 6 sons and 1 daughter. (Malcolm[b.? d.?], James[ b. ? d.?], Thomas [b. 1821 d.?], Archibald [b.1831 NY d.1923], Robert [b.1828 NY;d.1898 Oakland, Ca.], George[b.1834 NY; d.1917 Oakland,Ca] and Ellen[b.? d.?]) I was told that Ellen and the first born son were born in Scotland. We were always told that the father's name was Alexander and his wife was Mary Shepard or Clark (from England) but I cannot find him in any census prior to 1850. There was an Alexander Turner living in Homer, NY in 1830, but it is the wrong Turner. I am also looking at Duncan Turner because he had two sons: Malcolm and Archibald in the right years. Malcolm Turner married Mary Foote [b.1835] in New York. James Turner married ? and had as children: Kate, James, Ellen and Frank. (no dates) Buffalo NY, I think. By 1850 Mary Turner (widowed) and sons were living in Buffalo, running a spirits, wines, and cordials shop. In the 1844 Buffalo Directory, I found son James Turner running the Spirits store. I can find the Turner Brothers bottles at auction for over $1500 a piece!!! Too bad we don't have any. By 1860s the brothers had shops in San Francisco, Buffalo, and NYC. Archibald Turner married Millie Griffin and became president of several banks in NYC. Their son, George Turner [b. ? d. 1912 NY] married Lillian Hutchinson. [b. 1882 d. 1971 Hollywood, ca] The Turner Brothers Bank was established sometime in the mid 1860s in NY during the railroad expansion and boom; the brothers came to NYC . It may have been a venture capital company. Robert Turner had married Rebecca Chester in 1858 in Buffalo in a double wedding when his brother George married Rebecca's sister, Elizabeth. They continued to run the San Francisco Spirits store until mid 1860s. Later, Robert and Rebecca lived in Frankfurt, Germany; London, England and New York running the Turner Brothers Bank in Germany from 1870-1873. After the Panic of 1873 when the Turner Brothers bank failed, Robert and George and families rode the trans-continental train west to Oakland, California in 1875. Robert and Rebecca Turner had 2 sons: Robert Chester [b. 1864 NY d. 1937 Berkley, Ca] and Edward M. [b. 1861] Both of these sons were graduates of the University of California and distinguished themselves as engineers. Robert Chester was well known as a mining engineer serving as Superintendent of Bodie Mines, La Fortuna, and Brunswick mines. He married Eugenia Wood, daughter of Reverend Wood, 1870 in Stockton, California. They had 3 children: Chester [b.1894], Howard [b. 1896] and Marjorie [b.1900 Berkeley, Ca.; d.1991 Walnut Creek, Ca] Marjorie Turner married Warren Deverel in 1823, probably in Oakland or Berkeley, California George had a son, Frederick Chester Turner [my grandfather] born in Buffalo NY in 1865 and a daughter Katherine Turner (known as "Kittie") in 1870. Does anyone have any connection? [email protected] --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page