While I have been doing genealogy for about ten years now it seems like I have looked for Joseph Turner sr. parents much longer than that. Here is what I think I know about him. Joseph Turner Sr b. about 1750 ( Virginia) died 11 March 11 1800 in Adair Co. KY. wife: Sara Parson he was married more than once second wife a Smith no children : May Jane b1774-1775 in VA. Death date not known for the children Thomas b1775 VA. " William before 1780 VA. " Joseph Jr b 1782 VA " George W. b 1791 VA " Sudduth David b1793 place? " James W. b 1795 KY " Phoebe b 1798 KY " Thanks for any help you may be able to give. As I have stated before "I am beginning to believe that story about the cabbage patch." Donald Turner