Hello all: I have found 'my' family in the 1851 census in St George Hanover Square, London, England: Barnabas, 39,...born Stowmarket, Suffolk ( note Ancestry has him as Barnbas) Alice. wife, 39...born Earls Colne, Essex (discovered her maiden name was MILNES, dau of Joseph Milnes and Elizabeth Drew) Alice..dau, 10,...born Surrey (married ASHTON) *** my line Joanna..dau, 8..born MDX (married CLAYTON?) Sarah..dau 5...born MDX (no further details found yet) Amelia ..dau 2..born MDX (married GIBSON?) Have not found the family in the 1861 census, (missing records??)but have found some other details for later dates. I am posting this message in the hopes that others are researching these names. I would be happy to share what I have discovered. Happy searching, Judy in Canada.