I have several William Creasys. Can you give me a clue as to which one was married to Polly/Patsy Turner? Russ Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: <genieb@cddn.com> To: <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: [TURNER] James Turner died 1789 in VA > This may not be news to everyone but there is info out there to the > contrary > on the James Turner whose widow was Patty Turner. > > By 24 December 1789, this James Turner was deceased. Patty Turner with > Ashford Napier, Thomas Hale, William Turner and Richard Melton as surety > made > bond as Administrix of James Turner's estate. > > 20+ pages of photocopied Franklin Co., VA court records indicate this to > be > true. I have not transcribed all of the pages but there are at least 5 > minor > children and the estate would not be completely settled until the youngest > was > of age [21 yrs. old]. > > On 2 July 1796, settlement was made with the following legatees: > Kinzey Coats [h/o Joany Turner] for 27 pounds 5 shilling & 6-1/2 pence > James Turner for 27 pounds 5 shillings 9 pence > Thomas Overstreet [h/o Bathsheba] for 26 pounds 16 shillings 10 pence > William & Jonas Turner for 54 pounds 11 shillings 1 pence > William Creasy [h/o Patty or Polly?] for 27 pounds 5 shillings 6-1/2 pence > Eliza/Elizabeth Hunt for 27 pounds 5 shillings 6-1/2 pence > The remainder of the account was payment of accounts/bills except: > Patty Turner rec'd 132 pounds 10 shillings 3 pence for her dower. > > The balance from the sale of the estate was 23 pounds 13 shillings 4 > pence. > This was from Will Book 1, pp. 114-115. > >>From Franklin Co., VA Marriage Bonds: Kinzey Coats married Joany Turner. >>The > bond was dated 13 April 1789 and surety was James Turner. Although the > online > data did not give James' relationship to Joany, it is possible that this > James > was her father; however, James [s/o James who died bef 24 Dec 1789] was > not a > minor in January of 1790. > > Also...Jonas Turner was surety on the marriage bond of William Bates to > Elizabeth Harris [d/o John Harris] on 7 Jan 1793. Since Jonas was a minor > in > Jan 1790, he must be of age by Jan 1793. In my way of thinking [which may > or > may not be correct], Jonas would have been born about 1771 or 1772. > So...who > was the mother of these older children? Was this James Turner married 3 > times > or are we mixing up the James Turners? > > William Hunt made bond as the guardian of Jonas Turner in January 1790. > Thomas Hale along with Joshua Rentfro and Moses Greer as suretors made > bond as > guardian of Jesse, Polly/Patty [not sure which], Admire and Delilah, minor > orphans of James Turner Dec'd, on 7 Feb 1791....Will Book 1, p. 49. > > I'm not so sure that the James Turner to Jane Anderson marriage fits this > James. Can anyone help sort this out? > > Brenda Carroll > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Russ...all of this is new to me. I just finished the probate records that I have and I think it is not a complete record. There are no settlements for Jesse, Admire or Delilah Turner in these papers. Of course, other explanations could be made. Admire is the one I'm trying to trace. BUT.....here is the last record that I have: Acct. of Thos Hale Guardian of P. Casey Examined...Will Bk 1, p. 226. At a court held for Franklin County at the Courthouse the 6th day of June 1803. Ordered that Stephen Smith, Fleming Saunders, Nathaniel H. Claiborne and Caleb Tate, or any three of them state, and settle, the account current of Thomas Hale with Patsey Casey daughter of James Turner deceased, who hath attained the age of twenty-one years and who was one of the Wards of the said Thomas Hale. 1803. July 1st. We have this day settled the account of Thomas Hale Guardian of the above Patty Casey late Patty Turner, and find the said Hale to owe said Patty Casey, the above balance of 29 pounds 4 shillings 11 pence. Given under our hands and Franklin Courthouse the date above. Ste. Smith Nathl H. Claiborne Caleb Tate The County Clerk was ordered to record settlement. So.....there must be a Polly and a Patsey/Patty Turner. Polly married William Creasy and Patsey/Patty married Thomas Casey. In 1796, the account was current with the administrix per recorded court order. At that time, William Creasey was paid as a legatee, along with Kinzey Coats and Thomas Overstreet. There was no mention of money paid to Thomas Hale as guardian of the 4 orphans of James Turner on that account....which I think is odd....especially with the 1803 settlement with Patsey/Patty Casey. Other than what is here...I have not found a Creasey/Turner married within the right timeframe. I have not found the Overstreet/Turner marriage either. I did find the Coats/Turner marriage. Now I think I'll look for the Casey/Turner marriage. If anyone has answers....please speak up and help me straighten this out. Does anyone have an Admire Turner who was b. ca 1780 in VA? Brenda Carroll Quoting Russell Turner <rturner81@houston.rr.com>: > I have several William Creasys. Can you give me a clue as to which one > was > married to Polly/Patsy Turner? > > Russ Turner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <genieb@cddn.com> > To: <turner@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:58 AM > Subject: [TURNER] James Turner died 1789 in VA > > > > This may not be news to everyone but there is info out there to the > > contrary > > on the James Turner whose widow was Patty Turner. > > > > By 24 December 1789, this James Turner was deceased. Patty Turner > with > > Ashford Napier, Thomas Hale, William Turner and Richard Melton as > surety > > made > > bond as Administrix of James Turner's estate. > > > > 20+ pages of photocopied Franklin Co., VA court records indicate this > to > > be > > true. I have not transcribed all of the pages but there are at least > 5 > > minor > > children and the estate would not be completely settled until the > youngest > > was > > of age [21 yrs. old]. > > > > On 2 July 1796, settlement was made with the following legatees: > > Kinzey Coats [h/o Joany Turner] for 27 pounds 5 shilling & 6-1/2 pence > > James Turner for 27 pounds 5 shillings 9 pence > > Thomas Overstreet [h/o Bathsheba] for 26 pounds 16 shillings 10 pence > > William & Jonas Turner for 54 pounds 11 shillings 1 pence > > William Creasy [h/o Patty or Polly?] for 27 pounds 5 shillings 6-1/2 > pence > > Eliza/Elizabeth Hunt for 27 pounds 5 shillings 6-1/2 pence > > The remainder of the account was payment of accounts/bills except: > > Patty Turner rec'd 132 pounds 10 shillings 3 pence for her dower. > > > > The balance from the sale of the estate was 23 pounds 13 shillings 4 > > pence. > > This was from Will Book 1, pp. 114-115. > > > >>From Franklin Co., VA Marriage Bonds: Kinzey Coats married Joany > Turner. > >>The > > bond was dated 13 April 1789 and surety was James Turner. Although > the > > online > > data did not give James' relationship to Joany, it is possible that > this > > James > > was her father; however, James [s/o James who died bef 24 Dec 1789] > was > > not a > > minor in January of 1790. > > > > Also...Jonas Turner was surety on the marriage bond of William Bates > to > > Elizabeth Harris [d/o John Harris] on 7 Jan 1793. Since Jonas was a > minor > > in > > Jan 1790, he must be of age by Jan 1793. In my way of thinking [which > may > > or > > may not be correct], Jonas would have been born about 1771 or 1772. > > So...who > > was the mother of these older children? Was this James Turner married > 3 > > times > > or are we mixing up the James Turners? > > > > William Hunt made bond as the guardian of Jonas Turner in January > 1790. > > Thomas Hale along with Joshua Rentfro and Moses Greer as suretors made > > > bond as > > guardian of Jesse, Polly/Patty [not sure which], Admire and Delilah, > minor > > orphans of James Turner Dec'd, on 7 Feb 1791....Will Book 1, p. 49. > > > > I'm not so sure that the James Turner to Jane Anderson marriage fits > this > > James. Can anyone help sort this out? > > > > Brenda Carroll