Apologies for the cross-posting; time to shake the bushes again to see if someone new has come along. Looking for my grandfather : TURNER, John W., b 29 Apr 1842, Davidson Co., TN; d 4 Nov 1909, Jefferson Co., IL; buried Gilead Church Cemetery, Jefferson Co., IL; m BALDRIDGE, Martha L., probably Jefferson Co., IL, maybe Marion Co., IL. And my father (and his other families and siblings) : TURNER, Floyd E., b 15 Jan 1887, Jefferson Co., IL (although his parents were supposed to be living in Irvington, Washington Co., IL at the time of his birth. Maybe ggrandmother went to her parents' for the blessed event; they lived in Jefferson Co.); d 27 May 1949, Centralia, Marion Co., IL; m LEUTY, Myrtle 1905, Jefferson Co., IL; m SMITH, Gladys Rozilla (my mother), 6 Dec 1922, Effingham, Effingham Co., IL. Possible children from another marriage: TURNER, Mae Anna, b 23 Dec 1911 TURNER, Goldie Burness, b 6 Jul 1913 TURNER, Eva Lorean, b 17 Sep 1916 Place of birth of these three girls unknown. Thanks for your time, Floyd E. Turner floydt at erinet dot com