For your information: Forty years ago I worked in the Gaspe Penninsula, Quebec. The cook in our field party was named Edgar Casey. He spoke hardly any English, only French. I am positive that his family name came from Ireland, but his ethnic identity when I knew him was French Canadian. People tend to take their ethnic identiy from their environment as well as from their ancestry. Phil Turner >>> "Garry Moore" <gaelic@oasisol.com> 04/21 2:03 AM >>> I don't ASSUME anything. My grandmother told me she was french canadian and was born in Toronto to french canadian parents. They all spoke french fluently. They very well could also have been irish Turner's or English Turner's. Thanks for throwing that idea my way.