Bessie, I am wondering if we may have a connection here. I have a William Nathan "Billy" Turner b. 13 Nov 1850 Webster Co, MO. He married Mary Ellen Harriss 17 Oct 1878 Perry Co, IL and died 22 Oct 1919 St. Louis, MO. They had: 1. Elsie Viola b. 2 Aug 1879 Paradise Prairie, IL 2. Edward C. b. 4 Sep 1882 Paradise Prairie, IL 3. Herbert Harriss b. 24 Jan 1884 Paradise Prairie, IL 4. Frank b. 20 Jan 1886 Paradise Prairie, IL 5. Bertha Lorene b. 23 Aug 1887 Paradise Prairie, IL 6. Russell William b. 26 Jul 1889 Paradise Prairie, IL 7. Lean Gertrude b. 18 Aug 1891 Holt's Prairie, IL 8. Ora Louisine b. 12 Aug 1893 Paradise Prairie, IL 9. Byron Scott b. 18 Feb 1896 Paradise Prairie, IL William Nathan's parents were Nathan Carroll Turner b. 9 Jul 1824 Roane Co, TN; d. 5 Nov 1859 Webster Co, MO and Mary Ann Coleman. His grandparents were Nathan Turner (1780-1840) and Elizabeth Hicks (1781-1861). There appears to be a definate link between the Turners in Perry Co, IL with this family. Do you see any connection here with yours? Audrae Turner Mathis