--part1_5c64c9ef.245d1ba5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did a query on the PADUTCH message board I also am on and so far I've gotten two responses. I was intrigued w/ the term when I heard it. Hope this starts you down the right path. --part1_5c64c9ef.245d1ba5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <jhwest@ptialaska.net> Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.1]) by air-yb05.mx.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Sat, 01 May 1999 22:32:28 -0400 Received: from ptialaska.net (husky.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245] (may be forged)) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA18803 for <BCHBUM3@aol.com>; Sat, 1 May 1999 22:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from west1 (dialups-127.ketchikan.ptialaska.net [208.151.104.127]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00972 for <BCHBUM3@aol.com>; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:32:20 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <00c501be9444$e6284b80$126897d0@west1> From: "Helen West" <jhwest@ptialaska.net> To: <BCHBUM3@aol.com> Subject: Re: [PADUTCHgenONLY-L] "Black dutch" Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:38:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hello, I can only guess what Black Dutch means. There are the Black Irish who descend from the Romans when they occupied the Great Britain area. So instead of Red/Blond/Brown hair, they had Black. The Dutch ran the slave ships from Africa to the America's. The Dutch slave ships were a ruthless form of colonialism, worse that the English is many respects. I can only guess Black-Dutch would be a Afro-Dutch person. Unless they were speaking of the Black-English dialect you hear criticized today. Many Afro-Americans have kept the dialect going and people love to criticize what they don't understand. Black-English of course comes from the Dutch pronunciation of English words. It has remained through their history and is part of their culture. I could not find fault with that. If you get the facts, I love to know. Helen --part1_5c64c9ef.245d1ba5_boundary--