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    1. [TURNER-L] Fwd: [PADUTCHgenONLY-L] Re: Basque
    2. --part1_bf0ef68e.245df346_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear TURNER list, Start at the bottom of this forwarded mail and read each piece in reverse order. Rather than send each one individually, I thought it more efficient to send it this way:) P. --part1_bf0ef68e.245df346_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <PADUTCHgenONLY-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (rly-yd05.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.5]) by air-yd03.mx.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Sun, 02 May 1999 13:14:03 -0400 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA09990; Sun, 2 May 1999 13:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04739; Sun, 2 May 1999 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372CA3BB.9646A55E@iquest.net> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 12:13:01 -0700 From: Sarah Clevenger <sclevenger@iquest.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com References: <5b88ab33.245dbeb0@aol.com> <372C8253.424879A1@mailbox.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PADUTCHgenONLY-L] Re: Basque Resent-Message-ID: <AY85pB.A.5JB.keIL3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10414 X-Loop: PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PADUTCHgenONLY-L-request@rootsweb.com The Basques have been known for years to have been genetically different from the rest of Europe. The frequence of the B gene, as in the ABO blood type, is very low the Basque gene pool. The frequency of the B gene in europe reflects the route of Attilla, the Hun, in his sweep across the area. The frequency of the B gene is higher in Asian populations. The PA Dutch show a gene pool that has a distinctly different set of gene frequencies from the general population of the U. S because they don't intermarry with the general population but only with other members of their group. DNA testing is just a more refined technique. (And more expensive. <G>) S. Clevenger Mary D. Taffet wrote: > FYI -- > > As a person with a background in linguistics, I can say that there have > been some studies based on DNA that have attempted to prove the fact > that certain ethnic groups whose languages are known as isolates (not > related to any other known language) are also isolated genetically. The > specific groups I have in mind are the Basques (north western Spain and > south western France) and also the Ainu (persons living in Japan who are > not related to the Japanese.) The Basque and Ainu languages have so far > evaded classification among the language families of the world because > they are so different from other known languages. > > The DNA studies have attempted to verify this isolation by showing that > these ethhic groups are genetically isolated from other known groups as > well. The conclusion reached in the case of the Basques is that they > are indeed genetically isolated, which may explain why their language is > also an isolate. > > As for what the DNA tests look for, and what they can show, I really > don't know. Though probably too technical, there is more information > found on this subject at the following sites: > > http://www.friesian.com/trees.htm > > http://shelob.bioanth.cam.ac.uk/mtDNA/paper.html > > There is what appears to be an opinion piece posted at the following > site, titled "Your Surname, Your Genealogy and Your DNA" (I haven't > thoroughly read it, so I don't know the overall gist of the opinion > offered): > > http://www.family2001.com/hon/dna.htm > > -- Mary Taffet > mdtaffet@syr.edu > > JamieRkSdr@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 5/2/99 10:19:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > jhwest@ptialaska.net writes: > > > > << I'm sure it's not that simple. Anyone > > know what a DNA test would cost? As a tri-racial person, like most > > Americans, it would be great to see just what our DNA says. Does anyone know > > if a private person can go and ask someone to test and see what the genes > > tell? Helen >> > > > > hi helen - > > > > I have no idea what a DNA test would cost though I am sure the more extensive > > the testing the more expensive it would be. I do know they can get very > > detailed as my youngest child has a birth defect genetically linked to our > > ethnic group (celtic) so I read up about genetic testing - you can do a quite > > a bit prior to becoming pregnant to find out whats lurking in your DNA > > (although nothing is 100% informative) I would imagine if you are willing to > > pay for it you could get the same test just for genealogy purposes. i don't > > know what kind of information you could get aside from genetic possibility > > for birth defects...i don't know if there are racial markers for example - > > but would imagine you could do a web search and find out how much is possible > > to determine. > > > > Jamie > > > > ==== PADUTCHgenONLY Mailing List ==== > Support the people that support you. Join Rootsweb at: > http://www.rootsweb.com ==== PADUTCHgenONLY Mailing List ==== Help a friend! Give him/her what you know about their line. Sharing always has its own reward. --part1_bf0ef68e.245df346_boundary--

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