Because we are very much interested in the TURNER surname we sent for a 1851 Census Surname index volume 18 Ashton-u-Lyne , Lancashire County where we knew our TURNER was born . I looked through the surnames for TARNER and there is none in this volume. There is a supplement(to this volume index) I may send for that will give me more information on the TURNER surname. In this index there is a bunch of numbers listed for the surnames. ( ref, HO, 107/2233) Our surname TURNER has 5 number listings. I thank you very much & good luck on the TARNER surname. AS Ever, Helen, Bill & Sons