Milton Turner: I also made the great mistake once of posting a warning to the Turner-L list. And I can assure you that I was also blasted the same as you. My mistake was like yours. I thought I was doing a service to the list. I also apologized to the list several times to no avail because I was taken off the list for about two or three mounts. And was only returned to list after some phone calls and e-mail's to the man that was in charge of the list at time. I don't know how people think a new person on the web is supposed to know all but they do. All you can do is apologize and learn form this as I am sure you have. I use the TURNER-L and others and think they are one of the greatest service to anyone who is doing research in many years. Danny