Hi All I said I'd put the cat amongst the pigeons. So far have had 25 replies 5 in favour 4 of whom I think are UK based 20 against 4 from Oz, 8 from USA, 5 with AOL address, 2 Juno address and 1 iflint.com address. So I admit defeat, but some very good suggestions came out of this. I think most on the list also received them. I'm current on 7 list and I received 497 postings this morning, most of it is filtered but I find that it doesn't always work. One name I'm searching is ARMER but every posting that has the word "farmer" in it ends up in my ARMER box. My problem not yours Thanks for all the replies. You may be interested to know that I put the same on the Wilson list and got 5 replies, obviously not a passionate as the TURNERS. Michael