I just found this in my files (with no note as to where it came from). Perhaps the info will be useful to someone. My Turner is William B. Turner who married Mary Ann Ragland Sept 20, 1849. Sarah Turner, Aaron Spouse: King, Nancy [Mrs] Marriage Date: Oct 14, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Aaron Spouse: Turner, Esther Marriage Date: Oct 24, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Alexander Spouse: Duncan, Charlotte Marriage Date: Jun 4, 1827 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Allen W. Spouse: Low, Lucy A. Marriage Date: Jan 4, 1843 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, D. T. Spouse: Wise, Sarah Marriage Date: Jun 23, 1850 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Fleming H. Spouse: Moore, Jane C. Marriage Date: Dec 22, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, George L. Spouse: Clifton, Mary Marriage Date: Mar 4, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Henry M. Spouse: Stewart, Nancy M. Marriage Date: Jun 4, 1835 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James J. Spouse: Greer, Nancy A. Marriage Date: Oct 16, 1834 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James J. Spouse: Russell, Martha Marriage Date: Mar 10, 1831 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James T. Spouse: ---, Frances G. Marriage Date: Oct 5, 1837 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James W. Spouse: Owens, Martha J. Marriage Date: May 17, 1849 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, John Spouse: Barton, Caroline Marriage Date: Mar 7, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, John F. Spouse: Ivy, Martha A. Marriage Date: Oct 13, 1842 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Joseph T. Spouse: Brown, Martha Marriage Date: Dec 19, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Len H. Spouse: Harper, Frances Marriage Date: Jan 5, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Levi Spouse: Turner, Cloey Marriage Date: Oct 6, 1836 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Memory C. Spouse: Ammons, Amanda M. Marriage Date: Sep 4, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Pleasant B. Spouse: Harper, Abolyhannah Marriage Date: Dec 3, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Sherard W. Spouse: Mcvickers, Mary Marriage Date: Dec 7, 1847 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, William Spouse: Johnson, Sarah Marriage Date: Mar 12, 1845 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, William B. Spouse: Ragland, Mary A. Marriage Date: Sep 20, 1849 Marriage County: Henry County -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006

There are four or five(all I've found so far) TURNER families listed in Henry county BUT the enumerator only listed them by initials....I did find MY Turners there...they are enumerated TWICE for 1850 as they moved to AL after they were counted in Henry county GA!The Henry co, GA census was on Sept 28, 1850 and the Barbour co,AL census was on the 18th of October, 1850!!! So mebbe your TURNERs are there IF you know the initials ......:-) It pays to check ALL states for your family in each Census..... Betty Faye HOLT Lawton email: fuzdawg@metrocast.net http://www2.tribalpages.com/tribe/ browse?userid=luvgrits&view=9&rand=339369332 or: http://tinyurl.com/q9yv5 Researching: Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, ELLIOTT, WHEELER Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, TUCKER, TURNER, MATHIS, RUTHERFORD

PLEASE PEOPLE, if you are going to change the SUBJECT....... PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE!!!! Here I had high hopes that you were replying about MY TURNER: Wingait/Wingate M. Turner and his wife, Laura C. ...only to see you have gone off on your OWN TURNERs!!! Which is OK... IF you change the SUBJECT LINE!!!!!! Since these are the ONLY TURNERs I have in ALL my genealogy...I DO NOT HAVE any relatives to ask for DNA!!! These TURNERs are in my genealogy ONLY because my paternal 2nd GGF William HOLT m. Jane TURNER, dau. of Wingate & Laura C. TURNER! And the two families were close. In the 1850 Barbour co, AL Census was: "Next door to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. Turner, 49 yr. old male born in GA; Laura C. Turner, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; Charles A. Turner, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. Holt(Jane Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA." So Jane had a brother, Charles A. TURNER who was 11 yrs old in 1850 in AL, who was born in GA. I did find a Charles H. TURNER in the 1930 Clayton, Barbour co, AL Census.....but his dob was ca. 1875 and he was listed as 55yrs old....if this was the same Charles who was Jane's brother, then he should be abt. 80 yrs old not 55.... I'll just keep lookin'....... BFaye On Wednesday, Jul 19, 2006, at 17:49 US/Eastern, vjadams@att.net wrote: > Hi, > It appears that David Turner that I mention does have a brother named > Samuel. They were next door neighbors in Butler County, Alabama in > 1850. They purchased farms next to each other. This Samuel was > fifty-three years of age (born approx. 1797) in 1850 and was married > to Emily, Age 35 (born about 1815 in North Carolina. Their children > were Elizabeth born about 1833; Martha born about 1837; Julie Ann born > about 1838; William born about 1840; James born about 1841; Wiley born > about 1844; Washington born about 1847; and Zachary born about 1849. > This Samuel and Emily MNU would have married in North Carolina prior > to 1830 when their daughter Elizabeth was born in North Carolina. > Their first three children were born in North Carolina. This Samuel > was in Alabama between 1838 and 1840. I'm still looking for where > this Samuel went when he left Butler County, Alabama. > > It gets so frustrating trying to match all these people. Have a great > day. > Valerie Adams > > > -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain > <chatelainlisa@yahoo.com>: -------------- > > >> Valerie, >> Interesting! Wondering about connections to my Samuel. >> Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC >> arrived in TX 1837 >> married 1839 to Emily Midkiff in Nacogdoches Co, TX >> 1850 Jasper Co, TX census >> 1860 Trinity Co, TX census >> >> Emily's family lived in Grimes Co, TX. Wondering if there could be >> any ties to >> these Turners? Family stories about family back in AL but never have >> had any >> proof of these stories so always wondered where the story came from >> about AL. >> >> Here's a story proven untrue. The family said Moses Turner traded his >> land >> with Samuel Houston Turner in Trinity Co, TX for a wagon and "went >> back to AL." >> Well, Moses is on the Trinity Co, TX census records until death but >> there was a >> family feud over some land. But what about the story about AL? Could >> there have >> been family in AL? Could the ones who ended up in Grimes Co, TX be >> related? I >> know the Midkiff is mispelled on census for 1850/60. I think it is >> spelled >> Medcliff or something like that. Other names related to the Midkiff >> would be >> Plaster, Bean, Howell. Do you find any of those near your Turners? >> >> >> vjadams@att.net wrote: >> I have a brick wall Turner. My proven Turner is James H. Turner born >> Alabama >> born 1834 in Alabama. >> He Married Melvona F. Posey in Butler County Alabama 23 February >> 1864. He was in >> Lowndes County, Alabama in 1870 and by 1871 he was in Grimes County, >> Texas where >> he lived until death. We believe his father to be David Turner born >> 1800 North >> Carolina and married to Sarah. David and Sarah Turner owned land and >> lived on >> the adjoining farm to Moses and Charity Posey, parents of James' >> wife, Melvona >> (Posey) Turner. In 1860 David Turner disappears in Alabama but there >> is a David >> Turner in Grimes County, Texas. Children doesn't seem to match but >> the Turner's >> always had other children in their home. In 1900 James H. Turner and >> Melvona had >> a David J. Turner born 1881 in Texas (a nephew) and a Mande Turner >> born 1883 in >> Texas (a niece). Possibly children of a brother to James H.????? ---- >> Does >> anyone know anything about any or all of the above Turners? James H. >> and Sarah >> did have three sons other than George William Turner, our ancestor, >> but I've not >> been able to find their de! >> scendan >> ts. They were James Thomas Turner born December 1868 in Alabama . >> Married Jennie >> Appling 1896 in Grimes County, Texas; Charles E. Turner born 1879 >> Texas married >> Frlorence Woodard 04 September 1904 Grimes County, Texas. Frank >> Turner born >> March 1884 in Texas. No further information on these three. There are >> no Turner >> males descended from George William Turner, therefore I have no >> method for DNA >> at this time. >> >> I would love to hear from anyone with help on this family. Thanks. >> Valerie >> >> >> >> -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain : -------------- >> >> >>> There are two groups of Turners I am hoping someone will volunteer >>> for the DNA >>> testing. This would determine if we are related and seems likely >>> that one will >>> match. >>> One is Madison Turner out of Warren Co, TN who moved to Jasper Co, >>> TX and the >>> other is Littleton Turner out of Barnwell Co,SC who moved to >>> Angelina/Trinity >>> Co, TX. >>> >>> DNA saves you from searching on the wrong family line for years like >>> I did. I >>> just knew that John Turner who ended up in Orange Co, TX had to be >>> related >>> somehow but DNA testing confirmed otherwise. >>> >>> "Gail R. Blancett" wrote: >>> Betty, >>> >>> If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner >>> who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to >>> which he >>> belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to >>> get around it. >>> >>> Gail Blancett >>> >>> >>> >>> Betty Faye Lawton wrote: >>> >>>> From another HOLT researcher: >>>> "From Craig Kisabeth email: >>>> >>>> ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. >>>> HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in >>>> GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT >>>> 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Here I had >>>> Craig Kisabeth " >>>> >>>> Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated >>>> as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the >>>> Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates >>>> unkn). >>>> According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... >>>> >>>> The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene >>>> co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA >>>> I >>>> can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William >>>> HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James >>>> HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. >>>> >>>> Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name >>>> but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... >>>> >>>> I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER >>>> names....These >>>> are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even >>>> find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! >>>> >>>> Betty Faye HOLT Lawton >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >>> Turner list website - >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in >>> the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Lisa Chatelain >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. >>> >>> >>> ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >>> Turner list website - >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >>> >>> ============================== >>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, >>> find >>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >> Turner list website - >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> Lisa Chatelain >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! 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Jeanette, David and Samuel Turner were in Butler County. If you look at the actual images of the 1850 census, themselves, you will see at the top of the page it says Butler County even though they are indexed in Blount County. I've even seen references that they were indexed in the wrong county. I have copies of the land records in Butler County and have platted that land. The Posey's were there next door to them also and James H Turner, a son of David and my husbands great grandfather, married Melvona/Melvina Posey in Butler County. James H. and Melvona were in Lowndes County in 1870. I no longer found either Samuel or David in Alabama after 1850 but found a David Turner and Sarah, ages the same, in Grimes County, Texas and then James H. and Melvona were there by 1871. When I work on this family I feel like a rat in a maze. I'm sorry I didn't mention the county thing and should probably do that when I speak of this family in Alabama from now own. Valerie. -------------- Original message from yoricat@aol.com: -------------- > Valerie, > The two Turners were in Blout Co., AL, in 1850 not Butler Co., AL. In 1860 > I find David Turner & family in Grimes Co., Texas. I can't find Samuel any > where. > > Jeanette > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vjadams@att.net > To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: [TURNER] Re: ROLLCALL: Wingate/Winguit/? M. TURNER dob ca.1801, > GA>AL > > > Hi, > It appears that David Turner that I mention does have a brother named Samuel. > They were next door neighbors in Butler County, Alabama in 1850. They purchased > farms next to each other. This Samuel was fifty-three years of age (born > approx. 1797) in 1850 and was married to Emily, Age 35 (born about 1815 in North > Carolina. Their children were Elizabeth born about 1833; Martha born about > 1837; Julie Ann born about 1838; William born about 1840; James born about 1841; > Wiley born about 1844; Washington born about 1847; and Zachary born about 1849. > This Samuel and Emily MNU would have married in North Carolina prior to 1830 > when their daughter Elizabeth was born in North Carolina. Their first three > children were born in North Carolina. This Samuel was in Alabama between 1838 > and 1840. I'm still looking for where this Samuel went when he left Butler > County, Alabama. > > It gets so frustrating trying to match all these people. Have a great day. > Valerie Adams > > > -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain : > -------------- > > > > Valerie, > > Interesting! Wondering about connections to my Samuel. > > Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC > > arrived in TX 1837 > > married 1839 to Emily Midkiff in Nacogdoches Co, TX > > 1850 Jasper Co, TX census > > 1860 Trinity Co, TX census > > > > Emily's family lived in Grimes Co, TX. Wondering if there could be any ties to > > > these Turners? Family stories about family back in AL but never have had any > > proof of these stories so always wondered where the story came from about AL. > > > > Here's a story proven untrue. The family said Moses Turner traded his land > > with Samuel Houston Turner in Trinity Co, TX for a wagon and "went back to > AL." > > Well, Moses is on the Trinity Co, TX census records until death but there was > a > > family feud over some land. But what about the story about AL? Could there > have > > been family in AL? Could the ones who ended up in Grimes Co, TX be related? I > > know the Midkiff is mispelled on census for 1850/60. I think it is spelled > > Medcliff or something like that. Other names related to the Midkiff would be > > Plaster, Bean, Howell. Do you find any of those near your Turners? > > > > > > vjadams@att.net wrote: > > I have a brick wall Turner. My proven Turner is James H. Turner born Alabama > > born 1834 in Alabama. > > He Married Melvona F. Posey in Butler County Alabama 23 February 1864. He was > in > > Lowndes County, Alabama in 1870 and by 1871 he was in Grimes County, Texas > where > > he lived until death. We believe his father to be David Turner born 1800 North > > > Carolina and married to Sarah. David and Sarah Turner owned land and lived on > > the adjoining farm to Moses and Charity Posey, parents of James' wife, Melvona > > > (Posey) Turner. In 1860 David Turner disappears in Alabama but there is a > David > > Turner in Grimes County, Texas. Children doesn't seem to match but the > Turner's > > always had other children in their home. In 1900 James H. Turner and Melvona > had > > a David J. Turner born 1881 in Texas (a nephew) and a Mande Turner born 1883 > in > > Texas (a niece). Possibly children of a brother to James H.????? ---- Does > > anyone know anything about any or all of the above Turners? James H. and Sarah > > > did have three sons other than George William Turner, our ancestor, but I've > not > > been able to find their de! > > scendan > > ts. They were James Thomas Turner born December 1868 in Alabama . Married > Jennie > > Appling 1896 in Grimes County, Texas; Charles E. Turner born 1879 Texas > married > > Frlorence Woodard 04 September 1904 Grimes County, Texas. Frank Turner born > > March 1884 in Texas. No further information on these three. There are no > Turner > > males descended from George William Turner, therefore I have no method for DNA > > > at this time. > > > > I would love to hear from anyone with help on this family. Thanks. > > Valerie > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain : -------------- > > > > > > > There are two groups of Turners I am hoping someone will volunteer for the > DNA > > > testing. This would determine if we are related and seems likely that one > will > > > match. > > > One is Madison Turner out of Warren Co, TN who moved to Jasper Co, TX and > the > > > other is Littleton Turner out of Barnwell Co,SC who moved to > Angelina/Trinity > > > Co, TX. > > > > > > DNA saves you from searching on the wrong family line for years like I did. > I > > > just knew that John Turner who ended up in Orange Co, TX had to be related > > > somehow but DNA testing confirmed otherwise. > > > > > > "Gail R. Blancett" wrote: > > > Betty, > > > > > > If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner > > > who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to which he > > > belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to > > > get around it. > > > > > > Gail Blancett > > > > > > > > > > > > Betty Faye Lawton wrote: > > > > > > > From another HOLT researcher: > > > > "From Craig Kisabeth email: > > > > > > > > ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. > > > > HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in > > > > GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT > > > > 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Next door > > > > to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born > > > > in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; > > > > Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane > > > > Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA. Craig Kisabeth " > > > > > > > > Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated > > > > as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the > > > > Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates > > > > unkn). > > > > According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... > > > > > > > > The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene > > > > co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I > > > > can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William > > > > HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James > > > > HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. > > > > > > > > Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name > > > > but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... > > > > > > > > I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These > > > > are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even > > > > find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! > > > > > > > > Betty Faye HOLT Lawton > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lisa Chatelain > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. 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Edward Turner who was at Basses Choice. Does anyone have a Will on him or if he was married where his land was. Brothers, sisters Anything helpful . Thank you. Dorie

I recently visited the cemetery at Mt. Zion Baptist Church, Corner, AL (Jefferson County) where my great-grandparents, William Burl Turner and Marietta Pace Turner are buried. Also in that cemetery (and I don't know of a connection to my Turners) are: Parkes Turner (1878-1899); Carrie Turner (1882-1900); Ruby Turner (1896-1897);Arnolton Turner (Feb 23, 1920-Mar. 11, 1920); James M. Turner (May 9, 1853-Jul 1, 1934) and on the same stone, Rhoda A. Turner (July 22, 1861-May 24, 1948); Emmit Turner (Sept 30, 1880-Mar 1, 1974); Eliza Tanner Turner (June 12, 1864-Apr. 29, 1947); Odessa Turner (1895-1986) and on same stone E. Jesse Turner (1885-1964); and finally, Ozell Turner (Sep 4, 1914-Oct 29, 1939). As I said, as far as I know none of these are related to my Turners but, since they are in the same cemetery and some are actually very near my Turners, there may be a connection so if anyone recognizes them, please tell me who they belong to--it might help with my brick wall, William Beverly Turner of Cobb Co., GA, who is father to the William Burl Turner mentioned here. Sarah -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/391 - Release Date: 7/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/391 - Release Date: 7/18/2006

Is there a Henry B. Turner b. NC in this bunch of Turners? Henry moved to GA, married Martha, and by the 1850s he was in Alachua Co. FL. Since I don't have my papers with me, I am guessing the birth year but think it was 1803. Nora

Hi, It appears that David Turner that I mention does have a brother named Samuel. They were next door neighbors in Butler County, Alabama in 1850. They purchased farms next to each other. This Samuel was fifty-three years of age (born approx. 1797) in 1850 and was married to Emily, Age 35 (born about 1815 in North Carolina. Their children were Elizabeth born about 1833; Martha born about 1837; Julie Ann born about 1838; William born about 1840; James born about 1841; Wiley born about 1844; Washington born about 1847; and Zachary born about 1849. This Samuel and Emily MNU would have married in North Carolina prior to 1830 when their daughter Elizabeth was born in North Carolina. Their first three children were born in North Carolina. This Samuel was in Alabama between 1838 and 1840. I'm still looking for where this Samuel went when he left Butler County, Alabama. It gets so frustrating trying to match all these people. Have a great day. Valerie Adams -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain <chatelainlisa@yahoo.com>: -------------- > Valerie, > Interesting! Wondering about connections to my Samuel. > Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC > arrived in TX 1837 > married 1839 to Emily Midkiff in Nacogdoches Co, TX > 1850 Jasper Co, TX census > 1860 Trinity Co, TX census > > Emily's family lived in Grimes Co, TX. Wondering if there could be any ties to > these Turners? Family stories about family back in AL but never have had any > proof of these stories so always wondered where the story came from about AL. > > Here's a story proven untrue. The family said Moses Turner traded his land > with Samuel Houston Turner in Trinity Co, TX for a wagon and "went back to AL." > Well, Moses is on the Trinity Co, TX census records until death but there was a > family feud over some land. But what about the story about AL? Could there have > been family in AL? Could the ones who ended up in Grimes Co, TX be related? I > know the Midkiff is mispelled on census for 1850/60. I think it is spelled > Medcliff or something like that. Other names related to the Midkiff would be > Plaster, Bean, Howell. Do you find any of those near your Turners? > > > vjadams@att.net wrote: > I have a brick wall Turner. My proven Turner is James H. Turner born Alabama > born 1834 in Alabama. > He Married Melvona F. Posey in Butler County Alabama 23 February 1864. He was in > Lowndes County, Alabama in 1870 and by 1871 he was in Grimes County, Texas where > he lived until death. We believe his father to be David Turner born 1800 North > Carolina and married to Sarah. David and Sarah Turner owned land and lived on > the adjoining farm to Moses and Charity Posey, parents of James' wife, Melvona > (Posey) Turner. In 1860 David Turner disappears in Alabama but there is a David > Turner in Grimes County, Texas. Children doesn't seem to match but the Turner's > always had other children in their home. In 1900 James H. Turner and Melvona had > a David J. Turner born 1881 in Texas (a nephew) and a Mande Turner born 1883 in > Texas (a niece). Possibly children of a brother to James H.????? ---- Does > anyone know anything about any or all of the above Turners? James H. and Sarah > did have three sons other than George William Turner, our ancestor, but I've not > been able to find their de! > scendan > ts. They were James Thomas Turner born December 1868 in Alabama . Married Jennie > Appling 1896 in Grimes County, Texas; Charles E. Turner born 1879 Texas married > Frlorence Woodard 04 September 1904 Grimes County, Texas. Frank Turner born > March 1884 in Texas. No further information on these three. There are no Turner > males descended from George William Turner, therefore I have no method for DNA > at this time. > > I would love to hear from anyone with help on this family. Thanks. > Valerie > > > > -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain : -------------- > > > > There are two groups of Turners I am hoping someone will volunteer for the DNA > > testing. This would determine if we are related and seems likely that one will > > match. > > One is Madison Turner out of Warren Co, TN who moved to Jasper Co, TX and the > > other is Littleton Turner out of Barnwell Co,SC who moved to Angelina/Trinity > > Co, TX. > > > > DNA saves you from searching on the wrong family line for years like I did. I > > just knew that John Turner who ended up in Orange Co, TX had to be related > > somehow but DNA testing confirmed otherwise. > > > > "Gail R. Blancett" wrote: > > Betty, > > > > If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner > > who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to which he > > belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to > > get around it. > > > > Gail Blancett > > > > > > > > Betty Faye Lawton wrote: > > > > > From another HOLT researcher: > > > "From Craig Kisabeth email: > > > > > > ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. > > > HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in > > > GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT > > > 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Next door > > > to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born > > > in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; > > > Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane > > > Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA. Craig Kisabeth " > > > > > > Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated > > > as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the > > > Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates > > > unkn). > > > According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... > > > > > > The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene > > > co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I > > > can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William > > > HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James > > > HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. > > > > > > Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name > > > but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... > > > > > > I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These > > > are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even > > > find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! > > > > > > Betty Faye HOLT Lawton > > > > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > Lisa Chatelain > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > Lisa Chatelain > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Valerie, The two Turners were in Blout Co., AL, in 1850 not Butler Co., AL. In 1860 I find David Turner & family in Grimes Co., Texas. I can't find Samuel any where. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: vjadams@att.net To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Re: ROLLCALL: Wingate/Winguit/? M. TURNER dob ca.1801, GA>AL Hi, It appears that David Turner that I mention does have a brother named Samuel. They were next door neighbors in Butler County, Alabama in 1850. They purchased farms next to each other. This Samuel was fifty-three years of age (born approx. 1797) in 1850 and was married to Emily, Age 35 (born about 1815 in North Carolina. Their children were Elizabeth born about 1833; Martha born about 1837; Julie Ann born about 1838; William born about 1840; James born about 1841; Wiley born about 1844; Washington born about 1847; and Zachary born about 1849. This Samuel and Emily MNU would have married in North Carolina prior to 1830 when their daughter Elizabeth was born in North Carolina. Their first three children were born in North Carolina. This Samuel was in Alabama between 1838 and 1840. I'm still looking for where this Samuel went when he left Butler County, Alabama. It gets so frustrating trying to match all these people. Have a great day. Valerie Adams -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain <chatelainlisa@yahoo.com>: -------------- > Valerie, > Interesting! Wondering about connections to my Samuel. > Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC > arrived in TX 1837 > married 1839 to Emily Midkiff in Nacogdoches Co, TX > 1850 Jasper Co, TX census > 1860 Trinity Co, TX census > > Emily's family lived in Grimes Co, TX. Wondering if there could be any ties to > these Turners? Family stories about family back in AL but never have had any > proof of these stories so always wondered where the story came from about AL. > > Here's a story proven untrue. The family said Moses Turner traded his land > with Samuel Houston Turner in Trinity Co, TX for a wagon and "went back to AL." > Well, Moses is on the Trinity Co, TX census records until death but there was a > family feud over some land. But what about the story about AL? Could there have > been family in AL? Could the ones who ended up in Grimes Co, TX be related? I > know the Midkiff is mispelled on census for 1850/60. I think it is spelled > Medcliff or something like that. Other names related to the Midkiff would be > Plaster, Bean, Howell. Do you find any of those near your Turners? > > > vjadams@att.net wrote: > I have a brick wall Turner. My proven Turner is James H. Turner born Alabama > born 1834 in Alabama. > He Married Melvona F. Posey in Butler County Alabama 23 February 1864. He was in > Lowndes County, Alabama in 1870 and by 1871 he was in Grimes County, Texas where > he lived until death. We believe his father to be David Turner born 1800 North > Carolina and married to Sarah. David and Sarah Turner owned land and lived on > the adjoining farm to Moses and Charity Posey, parents of James' wife, Melvona > (Posey) Turner. In 1860 David Turner disappears in Alabama but there is a David > Turner in Grimes County, Texas. Children doesn't seem to match but the Turner's > always had other children in their home. In 1900 James H. Turner and Melvona had > a David J. Turner born 1881 in Texas (a nephew) and a Mande Turner born 1883 in > Texas (a niece). Possibly children of a brother to James H.????? ---- Does > anyone know anything about any or all of the above Turners? James H. and Sarah > did have three sons other than George William Turner, our ancestor, but I've not > been able to find their de! > scendan > ts. They were James Thomas Turner born December 1868 in Alabama . Married Jennie > Appling 1896 in Grimes County, Texas; Charles E. Turner born 1879 Texas married > Frlorence Woodard 04 September 1904 Grimes County, Texas. Frank Turner born > March 1884 in Texas. No further information on these three. There are no Turner > males descended from George William Turner, therefore I have no method for DNA > at this time. > > I would love to hear from anyone with help on this family. Thanks. > Valerie > > > > -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain : -------------- > > > > There are two groups of Turners I am hoping someone will volunteer for the DNA > > testing. This would determine if we are related and seems likely that one will > > match. > > One is Madison Turner out of Warren Co, TN who moved to Jasper Co, TX and the > > other is Littleton Turner out of Barnwell Co,SC who moved to Angelina/Trinity > > Co, TX. > > > > DNA saves you from searching on the wrong family line for years like I did. I > > just knew that John Turner who ended up in Orange Co, TX had to be related > > somehow but DNA testing confirmed otherwise. > > > > "Gail R. Blancett" wrote: > > Betty, > > > > If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner > > who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to which he > > belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to > > get around it. > > > > Gail Blancett > > > > > > > > Betty Faye Lawton wrote: > > > > > From another HOLT researcher: > > > "From Craig Kisabeth email: > > > > > > ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. > > > HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in > > > GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT > > > 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Next door > > > to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born > > > in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; > > > Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane > > > Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA. Craig Kisabeth " > > > > > > Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated > > > as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the > > > Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates > > > unkn). > > > According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... > > > > > > The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene > > > co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I > > > can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William > > > HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James > > > HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. > > > > > > Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name > > > but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... > > > > > > I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These > > > are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even > > > find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! > > > > > > Betty Faye HOLT Lawton > > > > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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I have a brick wall Turner. My proven Turner is James H. Turner born Alabama born 1834 in Alabama. He Married Melvona F. Posey in Butler County Alabama 23 February 1864. He was in Lowndes County, Alabama in 1870 and by 1871 he was in Grimes County, Texas where he lived until death. We believe his father to be David Turner born 1800 North Carolina and married to Sarah. David and Sarah Turner owned land and lived on the adjoining farm to Moses and Charity Posey, parents of James' wife, Melvona (Posey) Turner. In 1860 David Turner disappears in Alabama but there is a David Turner in Grimes County, Texas. Children doesn't seem to match but the Turner's always had other children in their home. In 1900 James H. Turner and Melvona had a David J. Turner born 1881 in Texas (a nephew) and a Mande Turner born 1883 in Texas (a niece). Possibly children of a brother to James H.????? ---- Does anyone know anything about any or all of the above Turners? James H. and Sarah did have three sons other than George William Turner, our ancestor, but I've not been able to find their de! scendan ts. They were James Thomas Turner born December 1868 in Alabama . Married Jennie Appling 1896 in Grimes County, Texas; Charles E. Turner born 1879 Texas married Frlorence Woodard 04 September 1904 Grimes County, Texas. Frank Turner born March 1884 in Texas. No further information on these three. There are no Turner males descended from George William Turner, therefore I have no method for DNA at this time. I would love to hear from anyone with help on this family. Thanks. Valerie -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain <chatelainlisa@yahoo.com>: -------------- > There are two groups of Turners I am hoping someone will volunteer for the DNA > testing. This would determine if we are related and seems likely that one will > match. > One is Madison Turner out of Warren Co, TN who moved to Jasper Co, TX and the > other is Littleton Turner out of Barnwell Co,SC who moved to Angelina/Trinity > Co, TX. > > DNA saves you from searching on the wrong family line for years like I did. I > just knew that John Turner who ended up in Orange Co, TX had to be related > somehow but DNA testing confirmed otherwise. > > "Gail R. Blancett" wrote: > Betty, > > If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner > who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to which he > belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to > get around it. > > Gail Blancett > > > > Betty Faye Lawton wrote: > > > From another HOLT researcher: > > "From Craig Kisabeth email: > > > > ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. > > HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in > > GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT > > 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Next door > > to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born > > in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; > > Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane > > Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA. Craig Kisabeth " > > > > Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated > > as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the > > Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates > > unkn). > > According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... > > > > The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene > > co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I > > can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William > > HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James > > HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. > > > > Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name > > but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... > > > > I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These > > are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even > > find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! > > > > Betty Faye HOLT Lawton > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > Lisa Chatelain > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Valerie, Interesting! Wondering about connections to my Samuel. Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC arrived in TX 1837 married 1839 to Emily Midkiff in Nacogdoches Co, TX 1850 Jasper Co, TX census 1860 Trinity Co, TX census Emily's family lived in Grimes Co, TX. Wondering if there could be any ties to these Turners? Family stories about family back in AL but never have had any proof of these stories so always wondered where the story came from about AL. Here's a story proven untrue. The family said Moses Turner traded his land with Samuel Houston Turner in Trinity Co, TX for a wagon and "went back to AL." Well, Moses is on the Trinity Co, TX census records until death but there was a family feud over some land. But what about the story about AL? Could there have been family in AL? Could the ones who ended up in Grimes Co, TX be related? I know the Midkiff is mispelled on census for 1850/60. I think it is spelled Medcliff or something like that. Other names related to the Midkiff would be Plaster, Bean, Howell. Do you find any of those near your Turners? vjadams@att.net wrote: I have a brick wall Turner. My proven Turner is James H. Turner born Alabama born 1834 in Alabama. He Married Melvona F. Posey in Butler County Alabama 23 February 1864. He was in Lowndes County, Alabama in 1870 and by 1871 he was in Grimes County, Texas where he lived until death. We believe his father to be David Turner born 1800 North Carolina and married to Sarah. David and Sarah Turner owned land and lived on the adjoining farm to Moses and Charity Posey, parents of James' wife, Melvona (Posey) Turner. In 1860 David Turner disappears in Alabama but there is a David Turner in Grimes County, Texas. Children doesn't seem to match but the Turner's always had other children in their home. In 1900 James H. Turner and Melvona had a David J. Turner born 1881 in Texas (a nephew) and a Mande Turner born 1883 in Texas (a niece). Possibly children of a brother to James H.????? ---- Does anyone know anything about any or all of the above Turners? James H. and Sarah did have three sons other than George William Turner, our ancestor, but I've not been able to find their de! scendan ts. They were James Thomas Turner born December 1868 in Alabama . Married Jennie Appling 1896 in Grimes County, Texas; Charles E. Turner born 1879 Texas married Frlorence Woodard 04 September 1904 Grimes County, Texas. Frank Turner born March 1884 in Texas. No further information on these three. There are no Turner males descended from George William Turner, therefore I have no method for DNA at this time. I would love to hear from anyone with help on this family. Thanks. Valerie -------------- Original message from lisa chatelain : -------------- > There are two groups of Turners I am hoping someone will volunteer for the DNA > testing. This would determine if we are related and seems likely that one will > match. > One is Madison Turner out of Warren Co, TN who moved to Jasper Co, TX and the > other is Littleton Turner out of Barnwell Co,SC who moved to Angelina/Trinity > Co, TX. > > DNA saves you from searching on the wrong family line for years like I did. I > just knew that John Turner who ended up in Orange Co, TX had to be related > somehow but DNA testing confirmed otherwise. > > "Gail R. Blancett" wrote: > Betty, > > If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner > who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to which he > belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to > get around it. > > Gail Blancett > > > > Betty Faye Lawton wrote: > > > From another HOLT researcher: > > "From Craig Kisabeth email: > > > > ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. > > HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in > > GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT > > 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Next door > > to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born > > in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; > > Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane > > Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA. Craig Kisabeth " > > > > Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated > > as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the > > Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates > > unkn). > > According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... > > > > The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene > > co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I > > can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William > > HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James > > HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. > > > > Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name > > but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... > > > > I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These > > are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even > > find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! > > > > Betty Faye HOLT Lawton > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > Lisa Chatelain > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

There are two groups of Turners I am hoping someone will volunteer for the DNA testing. This would determine if we are related and seems likely that one will match. One is Madison Turner out of Warren Co, TN who moved to Jasper Co, TX and the other is Littleton Turner out of Barnwell Co,SC who moved to Angelina/Trinity Co, TX. DNA saves you from searching on the wrong family line for years like I did. I just knew that John Turner who ended up in Orange Co, TX had to be related somehow but DNA testing confirmed otherwise. "Gail R. Blancett" <ablancett@atlantic.net> wrote: Betty, If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to which he belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to get around it. Gail Blancett Betty Faye Lawton wrote: > From another HOLT researcher: > "From Craig Kisabeth email: > > ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. > HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in > GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT > 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Next door > to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born > in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; > Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane > Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA. Craig Kisabeth " > > Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated > as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the > Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates > unkn). > According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... > > The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene > co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I > can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William > HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James > HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. > > Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name > but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... > > I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These > are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even > find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! > > Betty Faye HOLT Lawton > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Betty, If you know of any male Turners descended from Wingate/Winguit Turner who could do the DNA test, you might find a GROUP of Turners to which he belongs. With such a stone wall, this might be a potential chance to get around it. Gail Blancett Betty Faye Lawton wrote: > From another HOLT researcher: > "From Craig Kisabeth email: > > ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. > HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in > GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT > 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold. Next door > to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born > in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; > Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane > Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA. Craig Kisabeth " > > Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated > as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the > Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates > unkn). > According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... > > The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene > co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I > can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William > HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James > HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. > > Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name > but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... > > I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These > are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even > find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! > > Betty Faye HOLT Lawton >

From another HOLT researcher: "From Craig Kisabeth email: ". . . I checked the 1850 Barbour Co., AL census and found Asa A. HOLT living in House #1033 with N.A. HOLT, 18 yr. old female born in GA; I.L.(Irby Lee) HOLT, 20 yr. old male born in GA; and C.A. HOLT 19 yr. old male born in GA, all in the same houesehold.  Next door to them in House #1034 was a Wingate M. TURNER, 49 yr. old male born in GA; Laura C. TURNER, 42 yr. old female born in North Carolina; Charles A. TURNER, 11 yr. old male born in GA; and Jane M. HOLT(Jane Mariah, I think), 15 yr. old female born in GA.  Craig Kisabeth   " Wingate M(wish I knew what the "M" stood for!) TURNER(dob calculated as 1801 from "1850 Fed.Census, AL, Barbour co, house#1034.") is the Father-in-law of my 2nd GGF.... William HOLT m. Jane TURNER (dates unkn). According to the Census, TURNER was born in GA.... The HOLTs and TURNERs moved together from Henry/Hancock co,GA>Greene co, GA> Troup co, GA> Barbour co, AL. Prior to Henry/Hancock co, GA I can't find any records of the two families...possibly SC but William HOLT was born in Halifax co, VA. and came with his fathers' (James HOLT) family to Henry/Hancock co,GA. Wingate/Winguit M(for ?) TURNER could have gone by his middle name but I have no idea what the "M" stands for...or maybe he used W.M... I haven't seen any TURNER refs to any of my few TURNER names....These are the only TURNERs I have as a collateral family but can't even find them! Not a brick wall...more like a stone curb! Betty Faye HOLT Lawton email: fuzdawg@metrocast.net http://www2.tribalpages.com/tribe/ browse?userid=luvgrits&view=9&rand=339369332 or: http://tinyurl.com/q9yv5 Researching: Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, ELLIOTT, WHEELER Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, TUCKER, TURNER, MATHIS, RUTHERFORD On Monday, Jul 17, 2006, at 23:25 US/Eastern, lisa chatelain wrote: > Phil, > Just when you need a library and a hurricane destroyed it!!! I know > what I am looking for now, or think I do and trying to figure out how > to get to the information? Any idea Gail? > > Philip Turner <tutor7798@yahoo.com> wrote: > Lisa, > > We will have to take two approaches. The first is to identify all of > the participants in the Turner DNA project who have ancestors who > lived in South Carolina. The second step would be to go to RootsWeb or > to the Census records and locate them. I already checked RootsWeb and > I found that there are over 600 Turners who were born in SC between > 1805 and 1815. > > The difficult job will to be to trace them back to their place of > origin. > > Phil >

Hello List Members, I would like to know if anyone is familiar with the following publication. Any info. regarding this family line, study contents, the author, etc. would be immensely appreciated. "A GENEALOGICAL STUDY OF ALLUMBEE WILLIAMS AND SIBLINGS- 1757-1985" Compiled by Joe G. Potter-Rt. 2, Box 691-Moody, Texas 1985 During this time period there many spelling variations for ALLUMBEE, ie. Alembe, Alembee, Alumbe, Alumbee, Alambe, Alambee. Thank you, Sheryl

Phil, Just when you need a library and a hurricane destroyed it!!! I know what I am looking for now, or think I do and trying to figure out how to get to the information? Any idea Gail? Philip Turner <tutor7798@yahoo.com> wrote: Lisa, We will have to take two approaches. The first is to identify all of the participants in the Turner DNA project who have ancestors who lived in South Carolina. The second step would be to go to RootsWeb or to the Census records and locate them. I already checked RootsWeb and I found that there are over 600 Turners who were born in SC between 1805 and 1815. The difficult job will to be to trace them back to their place of origin. Phil lisa chatelain wrote: Phil, Interesting, but I never realized that William Turner never made it to the US. I wonder what research records are available (if any) for Ireland during this time period. Ireland doesn't seem that it would have been a much safer place. I still have that huge gap jumping over to Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC. Oh, I have an idea! This would take some help from you others out there. Which Turners descending from William Turner/Mary McLemore were living in SC around 1810? Never thought about that approach before. I'm going to start trying to look at all the Turner families from the 1810 census to see which ones are compatible DNA. TURNER-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: TURNER-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 95 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [TURNER] Turner DNA [FVWT@aol.com] #2 Re: [TURNER] Fwd: Rev. William Tur [Philip Turner #3 Winslow TURNER , Jr. & Mary Elizab [SHERYL WILLIAMS #4 Re: [TURNER] Winslow TURNER , Jr. [lisa chatelain #5 Lemarcus Turner of Alabama ["Mark A. Turner, Sr." Administrivia: Turner list web page - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ******************************************************* ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Lisa, We will have to take two approaches. The first is to identify all of the participants in the Turner DNA project who have ancestors who lived in South Carolina. The second step would be to go to RootsWeb or to the Census records and locate them. I already checked RootsWeb and I found that there are over 600 Turners who were born in SC between 1805 and 1815. The difficult job will to be to trace them back to their place of origin. Phil lisa chatelain <chatelainlisa@yahoo.com> wrote: Phil, Interesting, but I never realized that William Turner never made it to the US. I wonder what research records are available (if any) for Ireland during this time period. Ireland doesn't seem that it would have been a much safer place. I still have that huge gap jumping over to Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC. Oh, I have an idea! This would take some help from you others out there. Which Turners descending from William Turner/Mary McLemore were living in SC around 1810? Never thought about that approach before. I'm going to start trying to look at all the Turner families from the 1810 census to see which ones are compatible DNA. TURNER-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: TURNER-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 95 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [TURNER] Turner DNA [FVWT@aol.com] #2 Re: [TURNER] Fwd: Rev. William Tur [Philip Turner #3 Winslow TURNER , Jr. & Mary Elizab [SHERYL WILLIAMS #4 Re: [TURNER] Winslow TURNER , Jr. [lisa chatelain #5 Lemarcus Turner of Alabama ["Mark A. Turner, Sr." Administrivia: Turner list web page - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html *******************************************************

Phil, Interesting, but I never realized that William Turner never made it to the US. I wonder what research records are available (if any) for Ireland during this time period. Ireland doesn't seem that it would have been a much safer place. I still have that huge gap jumping over to Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC. Oh, I have an idea! This would take some help from you others out there. Which Turners descending from William Turner/Mary McLemore were living in SC around 1810? Never thought about that approach before. I'm going to start trying to look at all the Turner families from the 1810 census to see which ones are compatible DNA. TURNER-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: TURNER-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 95 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [TURNER] Turner DNA [FVWT@aol.com] #2 Re: [TURNER] Fwd: Rev. William Tur [Philip Turner #3 Winslow TURNER , Jr. & Mary Elizab [SHERYL WILLIAMS #4 Re: [TURNER] Winslow TURNER , Jr. [lisa chatelain #5 Lemarcus Turner of Alabama ["Mark A. Turner, Sr." Administrivia: Turner list web page - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ******************************************************* To unsubscribe from TURNER-D, send a message to TURNER-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ******************************************************* ______________________________Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:07:58 EDT From: FVWT@aol.com To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner DNA Gail, Sorry to take so long but I finally pulled out the info received from the lady in question. Do you want me to put it on here or shall I send it to a private email address? Barbara ______________________________Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:03:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Turner <tutor7798@yahoo.com> To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TURNER] Fwd: Rev. William Turner Carol, Sorry for the confusion, but I just wrote out the history the way I found it. I wanted to avoid adding my own opinions. My guess is that Rev. Wm. Turner never made it across the Atlantic, but some of his children or grandchildred came instead. Phil Turner cgreen3142@comcast.net wrote: I am quite interested in your post about William Turner but the dates don't seem to jibe. You say he was born in 1645 and emigrated to Maryland in 1741. That just doesn't seem possible. Carol Turner Green -------------- Original message -------------- From: Philip Turner > I am researching the following history. > > �Rev. William Turner, a minister of the Presbyterian Church, was born 1645 in > Aberdeenshire, Scotland. About the year 1680 he removed to the North of Ireland > on account of religious persecution. Persecution followed him there. In 1741 he > obtained a ship and led a party of emigrants to Maryland and settled in > Worcester Co. His wife was Mary McLemore.� > > Wm. & Mary Turner had the following children (born between 1671 and 1681): > William > Elisha > Mary > Ebenezer > John (1) > John (2) > Gertrude - married John Walker > Thomas > > Elisha married Elizabeth Hicks and they had the following children: > Philip > Elisha, Jr. > Mary > William > Elizabeth > Henry > Ebenezer > John > > Elisha, Jr. married Mary Carroll and their children were: > Thomas > Ebenezer > Elizabeth > Henrietta > John > Zadock b. 1729, Worcester Co., MD > Levin > Daniel > William > > Zadock, Sr. married Sabra Hicks and their children were: > Henry > Joshua > Zadock, Jr. > Mary > Philip > > Zadock, Sr. and his 2nd wife, Mary Ann Blizzard had: > Elizabeth > Sabra > Thomas > Easter > Hezekiah > > So far, I have looked all over the Eastern Shore of Maryland and Virginia for > clues to these people. Zadock, Sr. is a well documented veteran of the > Revolutionary War and I have a photograph of his tombstone in a cemetery in > Sparta, GA. I have also done some research in Scotland and found a record of a > William Turner who matriculated at Marischal College, Aberdeen. > > The trouble is in tying the two ends together. I intend to go to Ireland in > August to find the missing links. If anyone has advice on where to look in > Ireland or in the U.S., I would appreciate the help. > > Sincerely, > > Phil Turner > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at > the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&target > id=5429 > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ______________________________Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:20:26 -0700 (PDT) From: SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Winslow TURNER , Jr. & Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS of TEXAS 1828 DeWitt Colony Hello to all, I have been researching my paternal Williams Line and could use some insight into the early settlers of DeWitt Colony, TX and how they connect to one another. I have tried hard to gather as much as possible but could use a boost over this "brick wall". My grgrgrgrgrandmother was Mary Elizabeth Williams, a widow with two children (Malkijah & Teresa)who married Winslow Turner,Jr. BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri. They traveled to DeWitt's Colony abt.1828. Thank you to all who may have info. to share. Sheryl ----------- MY GREATGREATGREATGRANDFATHER: WILLIAMS. Malkijah Williams also spelled Malkyah and referred to as "Lige" Williams in some accounts arrived in the DeWitt Colony on 1 Aug 1830 as a single man and received title to a quarter sitio on 20 Nov 1831 according to colony land records. William's tract was on the west bank of the Lavaca River on the current border of Lavaca and Jackson counties and except for that of John Jones, the southernmost grant in the DeWitt Colony. The record of his marriage to Cynthia Ann Burns in 1837 is among the earliest marriage records in current JacksonCo archives (Malkyah Williams and Cynthis Ann Burns). Cynthia also written Cynthianne and "Synthia" in some records was born 7 July 1813 and was the daughter of Arthur Burns, one of the earliest settlers in the DeWitt Colony. The Williams lived in Lavaca Co and according to some Cynthia helped Evaline DeWitt design and make the "Come and Take It" flag of Gonzales. --- Source:1828 DeWitt Colony Biographies The Lista de los Havitantes de la Colonia de DeWitt en el Departmento de Texas 1828 SONS OF DEWITT COLONY TEXAS © 1997-2005, Wallace L. McKeehan, All Rights Reserved. For additional biographical information, Search Handbook of Texas Online - -------------------------------------- Name: Malkijah Williams Sex: M Birth: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Residence: Jackson Co., Texas ----- Event: Fact #1 Reared by Winslow Turner II as own child ------- Census: 1850 Jackson County: Age 46; Born W. Tennessee Event: Marriage Record 5 DEC 1837 Recorded in Jackson County, Texas Marriage Licences: Vol. A/B, pg. 7 --- Father: ? Williams ? Mother: Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams ----- Marriage 1 Cynthia Ann Burns b: ABT 1813 in Missouri Married: 16 JUL 1834 in Jackson County, Texas Marriage License: 5 DEC 1837 in Jackson County, Texas Children of Cynthia Ann BURNS and Malkijah WILLIAMS are: i. Julia Ann WILLIAMS was born ABT 1836 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. **ii. Thomas R. WILLIAMS was born ABT 1838 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. Alternate info b:19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co.,TX,d:8 AUG 1919 in Charco,TX. iii. Lucretia WILLIAMS was born ABT 1839 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. iv. John WILLIAMS was born ABT 1840 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. v. Mary WILLIAMS was born ABT 1842 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. vi. Ruth WILLIAMS was born ABT JAN 1850 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ONE FAMILY TREE I FOUND SUGGESTS THAT WILLIAM WILLIAMS IS THE MISSING HUSBAND OF MARY ELIZABETH WILLIAMS.MY RESEARCH SUGGESTS THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBLE WILLIAM WILLIAMS' WHICH FIT TIMELINE. Name: William WILLIAMS Sex: M Birth: UNKNOWN Death: UNKNOWN Marriage 1 Elizabeth WILLIAMS b: ABT 1787 Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------------------------ Name: Elizabeth WILLIAMS Sex: F Birth: ABT 1787 Death: ABT 1843 in Jackson County, Texas Father: Alambee WILLIAMS b: 1757 in Dorchester County, Maryland or North Carolina Mother: Sarah "Sally" (?) WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN ------ Marriage 1 William WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------ MARRIAGE 2 Winslow TURNER , Jr. b: ABT 1786 in Pembroke, Plymouth, Massachusetts Married: BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri ---- Children of Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams and Winslow Turner II are: i. Elizabeth "Betty" Turner died BEF AUG 1845. ii. Miles Turner. iii. Sarah "Sally" Turner was born 1804 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. iv. Louisa Turner was born BEF 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. v. Winslow Turner III was born 29 JAN 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 6 MAY 1880 in McDade, Bastrop County, Texas. vi. Mary Turner was born 21 JAN 1816 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 4 SEP 1853 in Victoria County or Goliad County, Texas. vii. Edwin Turner was born 1820 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 1861 in Civil War. viii. Hiram M. Turner was born 1822 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri. ix. Stephen Robert Turner was born 1824 in Missouri, and died 1870 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. ---------------------------------------------- SISTER OF MALKIJAH WILLIAMS Teresa (Turner) WILLIAMS Given Name: Teresa (Turner) Surname: Williams Sex: F Birth: in Tennessee Death: 23 Nov 1873 in Bastrop, Texas -- Event: Fact #1 Stepdaughter of Winslow Turner II; most often used surname Turner ---- Census: 1850 Travis County, Texas: #18, Farmer ($1, 000) Burial: Bastrop City Cemetary ------ Father: ? WILLIAMS Mother: Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS ------ Marriage 1 Samuel HIGHSMITH b: 1804 in Boone County, Kentucky Married: 4 Sep 1826 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri 1 ------ Children Malcijah Benjamin (Kige) HIGHSMITH b: 17 May 1827 in Old Caney, Bazoria Co., Texas Sarah Jane HIGHSMITH b: 13 Nov 1830 Amanda Louisa HIGHSMITH b: 1832 in Gonzales, Texas Henry Albert HIGHSMITH b: 11 Jan 1843 in Bastrop, Texas Edwin W. HIGHSMITH b: 1845 - --------------------------------------------- THIS WOULD APPEAR TO BE MARY ELIZABETH'S FATHER, MY GRGRGRGRGRANDFATHER. Name: Alembe Williams Sex: M Death: AFT 13 MAY 1835 in Lincoln County, Missouri Event: Migrated 1831 Missouri to Texas Military Service: War of 1812: served under Capt. Daniel M. Boone and Capt. Callaway Military Service: Revolutionary War: served under Capt. Michael Randolph, Col. Henry Lee, discharge from Gen. Nathaniel Green Military Service: 10 JUN 1781 Revolutionary War: enlisted in Capt. Moore's company of the First North Carolina Infantry commanded by Major Armstrong Event: Appointed Judge of election of Bedford Township [Troy] Missouri ------------- Marriage 1 Sarah Clark Children Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams (MY GRGRGRGRGrandmother) Joshua Williams Job Williams b: BET 1782 AND 1783 Levin Williams Alembe C. Williams b: 31 MAY 1791 James Williams Levi Williams John Williams Mary Williams Sarah Williams - --------------------------------------------- Here are some of the DeWitt Colony residents that my or may not be connected to my family line, would appreciate any and all imput. John WILLIAMS?? Eziekiel WILLIAMS?? Mary Elizabeth (Williams)(Williams)TURNER Winslow TURNER, Jr. Malkijah WILLIAMS Cynthe(Burns)WILLIAMS Teresa (Williams-Turner)HIGHSMITH Samuel HIGHSMITH Mary Ann (Williams)COTTLE Isaac COTTLE Alumbee WILLIAMS Job WILLIAMS(m:Nancy Campbell) Allambee WILLIAMS,Jr.(m:Sarah Clark) Arthur BURNS - --------------------------------------------- MY GRGRGRANDPARENTS: Thomas R. WILLIAMS son of Malkijah Williams & Cynthe Ann (Burns)Williams. Sex: M Birth: 19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co., TX Death: 8 AUG 1919 in Charco, TX Burial: Salem Cem., Lavaca Co., TX Military Service: 13 MAR 1862 1st Sgt Co. E 21st TX Cav Military Service: Enlisted in Lavaca Co. Military Service: 31 OCT 1863 Present at last roll call Marriage 1 Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM b: 1846 Married: 23 FEB 1859 ----------- Name: Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM Sex: F ALIA: /Nettie/ Birth: 1846 Death: 1905 in San Antonio, TX ------- Children Mary Estella WILLIAMS b: 10 JUN 1860 in Nueces Co., TX Lula Lavinia WILLIAMS b: 25 JAN 1868 in Lavaca Co., TX Bishop Burns WILLIAMS b: 3 JAN 1870 in Lavaca Co., TX Lewis Beckham WILLIAMS b: 3 AUG 1872 in Lavaca Co., TX Thomas Homer WILLIAMS b: 18 SEP 1874 in Lavaca Co., TX John Paul WILLIAMS b: 19 NOV 1876 in Lavaca Co., TX Silas Ward WILLIAMS b: 5 JUL 1879 Mabel Grace WILLIAMS b: 1881 in San Antonio, TX MY GREATGRANDPARENTS ARE THOMAS HOMER WILLIAMS and CARRIE (Cavender)WILLIAMS. ______________________________Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 04:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: lisa chatelain <chatelainlisa@yahoo.com> To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TURNER] Winslow TURNER , Jr. & Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS of TEXAS 1828 DeWitt Colony Sheryl (and anyone else with Texas ancestors), This is a great site where you can retrieve online actual downloaded digital images of actual documents. Please try many various misspellings to find all documents. http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicSearch.jsp I've come across a lot on this site for your ancestors while searching for mine. It says put in search criteria as "last name, first name" but it doesn't work that way. If you put in "Turner, Winslow" you are going to get all Turners regardless. Try putting in as the only search criteria "Winslow". Also, were you aware of military service in Louisiana by Winslow Turner and family? I found the records recently while searching LA records. I can't remember how I found those records. Wasn't it Winslow Turner Jr who died in the Runaway Scrape while trying to move his family to safety? SHERYL WILLIAMS wrote: Hello to all, I have been researching my paternal Williams Line and could use some insight into the early settlers of DeWitt Colony, TX and how they connect to one another. I have tried hard to gather as much as possible but could use a boost over this "brick wall". My grgrgrgrgrandmother was Mary Elizabeth Williams, a widow with two children (Malkijah & Teresa)who married Winslow Turner,Jr. BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri. They traveled to DeWitt's Colony abt.1828. Thank you to all who may have info. to share. Sheryl ----------- MY GREATGREATGREATGRANDFATHER: WILLIAMS. Malkijah Williams also spelled Malkyah and referred to as "Lige" Williams in some accounts arrived in the DeWitt Colony on 1 Aug 1830 as a single man and received title to a quarter sitio on 20 Nov 1831 according to colony land records. William's tract was on the west bank of the Lavaca River on the current border of Lavaca and Jackson counties and except for that of John Jones, the southernmost grant in the DeWitt Colony. The record of his marriage to Cynthia Ann Burns in 1837 is among the earliest marriage records in current JacksonCo archives (Malkyah Williams and Cynthis Ann Burns). Cynthia also written Cynthianne and "Synthia" in some records was born 7 July 1813 and was the daughter of Arthur Burns, one of the earliest settlers in the DeWitt Colony. The Williams lived in Lavaca Co and according to some Cynthia helped Evaline DeWitt design and make the "Come and Take It" flag of Gonzales. --- Source:1828 DeWitt Colony Biographies The Lista de los Havitantes de la Colonia de DeWitt en el Departmento de Texas 1828 SONS OF DEWITT COLONY TEXAS © 1997-2005, Wallace L. McKeehan, All Rights Reserved. For additional biographical information, Search Handbook of Texas Online - -------------------------------------- Name: Malkijah Williams Sex: M Birth: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Residence: Jackson Co., Texas ----- Event: Fact #1 Reared by Winslow Turner II as own child ------- Census: 1850 Jackson County: Age 46; Born W. Tennessee Event: Marriage Record 5 DEC 1837 Recorded in Jackson County, Texas Marriage Licences: Vol. A/B, pg. 7 --- Father: ? Williams ? Mother: Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams ----- Marriage 1 Cynthia Ann Burns b: ABT 1813 in Missouri Married: 16 JUL 1834 in Jackson County, Texas Marriage License: 5 DEC 1837 in Jackson County, Texas Children of Cynthia Ann BURNS and Malkijah WILLIAMS are: i. Julia Ann WILLIAMS was born ABT 1836 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. **ii. Thomas R. WILLIAMS was born ABT 1838 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. Alternate info b:19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co.,TX,d:8 AUG 1919 in Charco,TX. iii. Lucretia WILLIAMS was born ABT 1839 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. iv. John WILLIAMS was born ABT 1840 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. v. Mary WILLIAMS was born ABT 1842 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. vi. Ruth WILLIAMS was born ABT JAN 1850 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONE FAMILY TREE I FOUND SUGGESTS THAT WILLIAM WILLIAMS IS THE MISSING HUSBAND OF MARY ELIZABETH WILLIAMS.MY RESEARCH SUGGESTS THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBLE WILLIAM WILLIAMS' WHICH FIT TIMELINE. Name: William WILLIAMS Sex: M Birth: UNKNOWN Death: UNKNOWN Marriage 1 Elizabeth WILLIAMS b: ABT 1787 Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------------------------ Name: Elizabeth WILLIAMS Sex: F Birth: ABT 1787 Death: ABT 1843 in Jackson County, Texas Father: Alambee WILLIAMS b: 1757 in Dorchester County, Maryland or North Carolina Mother: Sarah "Sally" (?) WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN ------ Marriage 1 William WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------ MARRIAGE 2 Winslow TURNER , Jr. b: ABT 1786 in Pembroke, Plymouth, Massachusetts Married: BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri ---- Children of Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams and Winslow Turner II are: i. Elizabeth "Betty" Turner died BEF AUG 1845. ii. Miles Turner. iii. Sarah "Sally" Turner was born 1804 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. iv. Louisa Turner was born BEF 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. v. Winslow Turner III was born 29 JAN 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 6 MAY 1880 in McDade, Bastrop County, Texas. vi. Mary Turner was born 21 JAN 1816 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 4 SEP 1853 in Victoria County or Goliad County, Texas. vii. Edwin Turner was born 1820 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 1861 in Civil War. viii. Hiram M. Turner was born 1822 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri. ix. Stephen Robert Turner was born 1824 in Missouri, and died 1870 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. - -------------------------------------------- SISTER OF MALKIJAH WILLIAMS Teresa (Turner) WILLIAMS Given Name: Teresa (Turner) Surname: Williams Sex: F Birth: in Tennessee Death: 23 Nov 1873 in Bastrop, Texas -- Event: Fact #1 Stepdaughter of Winslow Turner II; most often used surname Turner ---- Census: 1850 Travis County, Texas: #18, Farmer ($1, 000) Burial: Bastrop City Cemetary ------ Father: ? WILLIAMS Mother: Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS ------ Marriage 1 Samuel HIGHSMITH b: 1804 in Boone County, Kentucky Married: 4 Sep 1826 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri 1 ------ Children Malcijah Benjamin (Kige) HIGHSMITH b: 17 May 1827 in Old Caney, Bazoria Co., Texas Sarah Jane HIGHSMITH b: 13 Nov 1830 Amanda Louisa HIGHSMITH b: 1832 in Gonzales, Texas Henry Albert HIGHSMITH b: 11 Jan 1843 in Bastrop, Texas Edwin W. HIGHSMITH b: 1845 - --------------------------------------------- THIS WOULD APPEAR TO BE MARY ELIZABETH'S FATHER, MY GRGRGRGRGRANDFATHER. Name: Alembe Williams Sex: M Death: AFT 13 MAY 1835 in Lincoln County, Missouri Event: Migrated 1831 Missouri to Texas Military Service: War of 1812: served under Capt. Daniel M. Boone and Capt. Callaway Military Service: Revolutionary War: served under Capt. Michael Randolph, Col. Henry Lee, discharge from Gen. Nathaniel Green Military Service: 10 JUN 1781 Revolutionary War: enlisted in Capt. Moore's company of the First North Carolina Infantry commanded by Major Armstrong Event: Appointed Judge of election of Bedford Township [Troy] Missouri ------------- Marriage 1 Sarah Clark Children Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams (MY GRGRGRGRGrandmother) Joshua Williams Job Williams b: BET 1782 AND 1783 Levin Williams Alembe C. Williams b: 31 MAY 1791 James Williams Levi Williams John Williams Mary Williams Sarah Williams - --------------------------------------------- Here are some of the DeWitt Colony residents that my or may not be connected to my family line, would appreciate any and all imput. John WILLIAMS?? Eziekiel WILLIAMS?? Mary Elizabeth (Williams)(Williams)TURNER Winslow TURNER, Jr. Malkijah WILLIAMS Cynthe(Burns)WILLIAMS Teresa (Williams-Turner)HIGHSMITH Samuel HIGHSMITH Mary Ann (Williams)COTTLE Isaac COTTLE Alumbee WILLIAMS Job WILLIAMS(m:Nancy Campbell) Allambee WILLIAMS,Jr.(m:Sarah Clark) Arthur BURNS - --------------------------------------------- MY GRGRGRANDPARENTS: Thomas R. WILLIAMS son of Malkijah Williams & Cynthe Ann (Burns)Williams. Sex: M Birth: 19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co., TX Death: 8 AUG 1919 in Charco, TX Burial: Salem Cem., Lavaca Co., TX Military Service: 13 MAR 1862 1st Sgt Co. E 21st TX Cav Military Service: Enlisted in Lavaca Co. Military Service: 31 OCT 1863 Present at last roll call Marriage 1 Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM b: 1846 Married: 23 FEB 1859 ----------- Name: Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM Sex: F ALIA: /Nettie/ Birth: 1846 Death: 1905 in San Antonio, TX ------- Children Mary Estella WILLIAMS b: 10 JUN 1860 in Nueces Co., TX Lula Lavinia WILLIAMS b: 25 JAN 1868 in Lavaca Co., TX Bishop Burns WILLIAMS b: 3 JAN 1870 in Lavaca Co., TX Lewis Beckham WILLIAMS b: 3 AUG 1872 in Lavaca Co., TX Thomas Homer WILLIAMS b: 18 SEP 1874 in Lavaca Co., TX John Paul WILLIAMS b: 19 NOV 1876 in Lavaca Co., TX Silas Ward WILLIAMS b: 5 JUL 1879 Mabel Grace WILLIAMS b: 1881 in San Antonio, TX MY GREATGRANDPARENTS ARE THOMAS HOMER WILLIAMS and CARRIE (Cavender)WILLIAMS. ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain - ------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. ______________________________Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 8:35:43 -0500 From: "Mark A. Turner, Sr." <maturner1@alltel.net> To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lemarcus Turner of Alabama I am searching for information on Lemarcus (or LeMarquis) Turner and his parents. He lived in Greene County, Alabama, in the 1820s & 1830s. Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

So Edwin belongs to your family! I wondered who he was. I found a lot at different times on an Edwin Turne with Texas military records. SHERYL WILLIAMS <sherwillia60@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Lisa, Thank you so much for the info!!! THIS SITE IS FABULOUS!!! http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicSearch.jsp I believe it was Winslow Turner Sr.who was already ailing when they made the escape. But I have read differing accounts about three or four generations of Winslow Turner. Hi son Winslow Turner Jr. married my grgrgrgrgrandmother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Turner d:1843, who was widowed with two young children, Malkijah Williams and Teresa Williams, which he raised as his own. They had eight biological children: Elizabeth, Miles, Louisa, Winslow, Mary, Edwin, Hiram, Stephen. Sheryl lisa chatelain wrote: Sheryl (and anyone else with Texas ancestors), This is a great site where you can retrieve online actual downloaded digital images of actual documents. Please try many various misspellings to find all documents. http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicSearch.jsp I've come across a lot on this site for your ancestors while searching for mine. It says put in search criteria as "last name, first name" but it doesn't work that way. If you put in "Turner, Winslow" you are going to get all Turners regardless. Try putting in as the only search criteria "Winslow". Also, were you aware of military service in Louisiana by Winslow Turner and family? I found the records recently while searching LA records. I can't remember how I found those records. Wasn't it Winslow Turner Jr who died in the Runaway Scrape while trying to move his family to safety? SHERYL WILLIAMS wrote: Hello to all, I have been researching my paternal Williams Line and could use some insight into the early settlers of DeWitt Colony, TX and how they connect to one another. I have tried hard to gather as much as possible but could use a boost over this "brick wall". My grgrgrgrgrandmother was Mary Elizabeth Williams, a widow with two children (Malkijah & Teresa)who married Winslow Turner,Jr. BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri. They traveled to DeWitt's Colony abt.1828. Thank you to all who may have info. to share. Sheryl ----------- MY GREATGREATGREATGRANDFATHER: WILLIAMS. Malkijah Williams also spelled Malkyah and referred to as "Lige" Williams in some accounts arrived in the DeWitt Colony on 1 Aug 1830 as a single man and received title to a quarter sitio on 20 Nov 1831 according to colony land records. William's tract was on the west bank of the Lavaca River on the current border of Lavaca and Jackson counties and except for that of John Jones, the southernmost grant in the DeWitt Colony. The record of his marriage to Cynthia Ann Burns in 1837 is among the earliest marriage records in current JacksonCo archives (Malkyah Williams and Cynthis Ann Burns). Cynthia also written Cynthianne and "Synthia" in some records was born 7 July 1813 and was the daughter of Arthur Burns, one of the earliest settlers in the DeWitt Colony. The Williams lived in Lavaca Co and according to some Cynthia helped Evaline DeWitt design and make the "Come and Take It" flag of Gonzales. --- Source:1828 DeWitt Colony Biographies The Lista de los Havitantes de la Colonia de DeWitt en el Departmento de Texas 1828 SONS OF DEWITT COLONY TEXAS © 1997-2005, Wallace L. McKeehan, All Rights Reserved. For additional biographical information, Search Handbook of Texas Online ---------------------------------------- Name: Malkijah Williams Sex: M Birth: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Residence: Jackson Co., Texas ----- Event: Fact #1 Reared by Winslow Turner II as own child ------- Census: 1850 Jackson County: Age 46; Born W. Tennessee Event: Marriage Record 5 DEC 1837 Recorded in Jackson County, Texas Marriage Licences: Vol. A/B, pg. 7 --- Father: ? Williams ? Mother: Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams ----- Marriage 1 Cynthia Ann Burns b: ABT 1813 in Missouri Married: 16 JUL 1834 in Jackson County, Texas Marriage License: 5 DEC 1837 in Jackson County, Texas Children of Cynthia Ann BURNS and Malkijah WILLIAMS are: i. Julia Ann WILLIAMS was born ABT 1836 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. **ii. Thomas R. WILLIAMS was born ABT 1838 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. Alternate info b:19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co.,TX,d:8 AUG 1919 in Charco,TX. iii. Lucretia WILLIAMS was born ABT 1839 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. iv. John WILLIAMS was born ABT 1840 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. v. Mary WILLIAMS was born ABT 1842 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. vi. Ruth WILLIAMS was born ABT JAN 1850 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ONE FAMILY TREE I FOUND SUGGESTS THAT WILLIAM WILLIAMS IS THE MISSING HUSBAND OF MARY ELIZABETH WILLIAMS.MY RESEARCH SUGGESTS THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBLE WILLIAM WILLIAMS' WHICH FIT TIMELINE. Name: William WILLIAMS Sex: M Birth: UNKNOWN Death: UNKNOWN Marriage 1 Elizabeth WILLIAMS b: ABT 1787 Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------------------------ Name: Elizabeth WILLIAMS Sex: F Birth: ABT 1787 Death: ABT 1843 in Jackson County, Texas Father: Alambee WILLIAMS b: 1757 in Dorchester County, Maryland or North Carolina Mother: Sarah "Sally" (?) WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN ------ Marriage 1 William WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------ MARRIAGE 2 Winslow TURNER , Jr. b: ABT 1786 in Pembroke, Plymouth, Massachusetts Married: BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri ---- Children of Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams and Winslow Turner II are: i. Elizabeth "Betty" Turner died BEF AUG 1845. ii. Miles Turner. iii. Sarah "Sally" Turner was born 1804 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. iv. Louisa Turner was born BEF 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. v. Winslow Turner III was born 29 JAN 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 6 MAY 1880 in McDade, Bastrop County, Texas. vi. Mary Turner was born 21 JAN 1816 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 4 SEP 1853 in Victoria County or Goliad County, Texas. vii. Edwin Turner was born 1820 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 1861 in Civil War. viii. Hiram M. Turner was born 1822 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri. ix. Stephen Robert Turner was born 1824 in Missouri, and died 1870 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. ---------------------------------------------- SISTER OF MALKIJAH WILLIAMS Teresa (Turner) WILLIAMS Given Name: Teresa (Turner) Surname: Williams Sex: F Birth: in Tennessee Death: 23 Nov 1873 in Bastrop, Texas -- Event: Fact #1 Stepdaughter of Winslow Turner II; most often used surname Turner ---- Census: 1850 Travis County, Texas: #18, Farmer ($1, 000) Burial: Bastrop City Cemetary ------ Father: ? WILLIAMS Mother: Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS ------ Marriage 1 Samuel HIGHSMITH b: 1804 in Boone County, Kentucky Married: 4 Sep 1826 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri 1 ------ Children Malcijah Benjamin (Kige) HIGHSMITH b: 17 May 1827 in Old Caney, Bazoria Co., Texas Sarah Jane HIGHSMITH b: 13 Nov 1830 Amanda Louisa HIGHSMITH b: 1832 in Gonzales, Texas Henry Albert HIGHSMITH b: 11 Jan 1843 in Bastrop, Texas Edwin W. HIGHSMITH b: 1845 ----------------------------------------------- THIS WOULD APPEAR TO BE MARY ELIZABETH'S FATHER, MY GRGRGRGRGRANDFATHER. Name: Alembe Williams Sex: M Death: AFT 13 MAY 1835 in Lincoln County, Missouri Event: Migrated 1831 Missouri to Texas Military Service: War of 1812: served under Capt. Daniel M. Boone and Capt. Callaway Military Service: Revolutionary War: served under Capt. Michael Randolph, Col. Henry Lee, discharge from Gen. Nathaniel Green Military Service: 10 JUN 1781 Revolutionary War: enlisted in Capt. Moore's company of the First North Carolina Infantry commanded by Major Armstrong Event: Appointed Judge of election of Bedford Township [Troy] Missouri ------------- Marriage 1 Sarah Clark Children Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams (MY GRGRGRGRGrandmother) Joshua Williams Job Williams b: BET 1782 AND 1783 Levin Williams Alembe C. Williams b: 31 MAY 1791 James Williams Levi Williams John Williams Mary Williams Sarah Williams ----------------------------------------------- Here are some of the DeWitt Colony residents that my or may not be connected to my family line, would appreciate any and all imput. John WILLIAMS?? Eziekiel WILLIAMS?? Mary Elizabeth (Williams)(Williams)TURNER Winslow TURNER, Jr. Malkijah WILLIAMS Cynthe(Burns)WILLIAMS Teresa (Williams-Turner)HIGHSMITH Samuel HIGHSMITH Mary Ann (Williams)COTTLE Isaac COTTLE Alumbee WILLIAMS Job WILLIAMS(m:Nancy Campbell) Allambee WILLIAMS,Jr.(m:Sarah Clark) Arthur BURNS ----------------------------------------------- MY GRGRGRANDPARENTS: Thomas R. WILLIAMS son of Malkijah Williams & Cynthe Ann (Burns)Williams. Sex: M Birth: 19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co., TX Death: 8 AUG 1919 in Charco, TX Burial: Salem Cem., Lavaca Co., TX Military Service: 13 MAR 1862 1st Sgt Co. E 21st TX Cav Military Service: Enlisted in Lavaca Co. Military Service: 31 OCT 1863 Present at last roll call Marriage 1 Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM b: 1846 Married: 23 FEB 1859 ----------- Name: Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM Sex: F ALIA: /Nettie/ Birth: 1846 Death: 1905 in San Antonio, TX ------- Children Mary Estella WILLIAMS b: 10 JUN 1860 in Nueces Co., TX Lula Lavinia WILLIAMS b: 25 JAN 1868 in Lavaca Co., TX Bishop Burns WILLIAMS b: 3 JAN 1870 in Lavaca Co., TX Lewis Beckham WILLIAMS b: 3 AUG 1872 in Lavaca Co., TX Thomas Homer WILLIAMS b: 18 SEP 1874 in Lavaca Co., TX John Paul WILLIAMS b: 19 NOV 1876 in Lavaca Co., TX Silas Ward WILLIAMS b: 5 JUL 1879 Mabel Grace WILLIAMS b: 1881 in San Antonio, TX MY GREATGRANDPARENTS ARE THOMAS HOMER WILLIAMS and CARRIE (Cavender)WILLIAMS. ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Lisa, Thank you so much for the info!!! THIS SITE IS FABULOUS!!! http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicSearch.jsp I believe it was Winslow Turner Sr.who was already ailing when they made the escape. But I have read differing accounts about three or four generations of Winslow Turner. Hi son Winslow Turner Jr. married my grgrgrgrgrandmother Mary Elizabeth (Williams) Turner d:1843, who was widowed with two young children, Malkijah Williams and Teresa Williams, which he raised as his own. They had eight biological children: Elizabeth, Miles, Louisa, Winslow, Mary, Edwin, Hiram, Stephen. Sheryl lisa chatelain <chatelainlisa@yahoo.com> wrote: Sheryl (and anyone else with Texas ancestors), This is a great site where you can retrieve online actual downloaded digital images of actual documents. Please try many various misspellings to find all documents. http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicSearch.jsp I've come across a lot on this site for your ancestors while searching for mine. It says put in search criteria as "last name, first name" but it doesn't work that way. If you put in "Turner, Winslow" you are going to get all Turners regardless. Try putting in as the only search criteria "Winslow". Also, were you aware of military service in Louisiana by Winslow Turner and family? I found the records recently while searching LA records. I can't remember how I found those records. Wasn't it Winslow Turner Jr who died in the Runaway Scrape while trying to move his family to safety? SHERYL WILLIAMS wrote: Hello to all, I have been researching my paternal Williams Line and could use some insight into the early settlers of DeWitt Colony, TX and how they connect to one another. I have tried hard to gather as much as possible but could use a boost over this "brick wall". My grgrgrgrgrandmother was Mary Elizabeth Williams, a widow with two children (Malkijah & Teresa)who married Winslow Turner,Jr. BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri. They traveled to DeWitt's Colony abt.1828. Thank you to all who may have info. to share. Sheryl ----------- MY GREATGREATGREATGRANDFATHER: WILLIAMS. Malkijah Williams also spelled Malkyah and referred to as "Lige" Williams in some accounts arrived in the DeWitt Colony on 1 Aug 1830 as a single man and received title to a quarter sitio on 20 Nov 1831 according to colony land records. William's tract was on the west bank of the Lavaca River on the current border of Lavaca and Jackson counties and except for that of John Jones, the southernmost grant in the DeWitt Colony. The record of his marriage to Cynthia Ann Burns in 1837 is among the earliest marriage records in current JacksonCo archives (Malkyah Williams and Cynthis Ann Burns). Cynthia also written Cynthianne and "Synthia" in some records was born 7 July 1813 and was the daughter of Arthur Burns, one of the earliest settlers in the DeWitt Colony. The Williams lived in Lavaca Co and according to some Cynthia helped Evaline DeWitt design and make the "Come and Take It" flag of Gonzales. --- Source:1828 DeWitt Colony Biographies The Lista de los Havitantes de la Colonia de DeWitt en el Departmento de Texas 1828 SONS OF DEWITT COLONY TEXAS © 1997-2005, Wallace L. McKeehan, All Rights Reserved. For additional biographical information, Search Handbook of Texas Online ---------------------------------------- Name: Malkijah Williams Sex: M Birth: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Residence: Jackson Co., Texas ----- Event: Fact #1 Reared by Winslow Turner II as own child ------- Census: 1850 Jackson County: Age 46; Born W. Tennessee Event: Marriage Record 5 DEC 1837 Recorded in Jackson County, Texas Marriage Licences: Vol. A/B, pg. 7 --- Father: ? Williams ? Mother: Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams ----- Marriage 1 Cynthia Ann Burns b: ABT 1813 in Missouri Married: 16 JUL 1834 in Jackson County, Texas Marriage License: 5 DEC 1837 in Jackson County, Texas Children of Cynthia Ann BURNS and Malkijah WILLIAMS are: i. Julia Ann WILLIAMS was born ABT 1836 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. **ii. Thomas R. WILLIAMS was born ABT 1838 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. Alternate info b:19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co.,TX,d:8 AUG 1919 in Charco,TX. iii. Lucretia WILLIAMS was born ABT 1839 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. iv. John WILLIAMS was born ABT 1840 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. v. Mary WILLIAMS was born ABT 1842 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. vi. Ruth WILLIAMS was born ABT JAN 1850 in Jackson County, Texas, and died UNKNOWN. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ONE FAMILY TREE I FOUND SUGGESTS THAT WILLIAM WILLIAMS IS THE MISSING HUSBAND OF MARY ELIZABETH WILLIAMS.MY RESEARCH SUGGESTS THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBLE WILLIAM WILLIAMS' WHICH FIT TIMELINE. Name: William WILLIAMS Sex: M Birth: UNKNOWN Death: UNKNOWN Marriage 1 Elizabeth WILLIAMS b: ABT 1787 Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------------------------ Name: Elizabeth WILLIAMS Sex: F Birth: ABT 1787 Death: ABT 1843 in Jackson County, Texas Father: Alambee WILLIAMS b: 1757 in Dorchester County, Maryland or North Carolina Mother: Sarah "Sally" (?) WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN ------ Marriage 1 William WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN Children Malkijah WILLIAMS b: ABT 1803 in Tennessee Teresa WILLIAMS b: UNKNOWN in Tennessee ------ MARRIAGE 2 Winslow TURNER , Jr. b: ABT 1786 in Pembroke, Plymouth, Massachusetts Married: BEF 1811 in Lincoln County, Missouri ---- Children of Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams and Winslow Turner II are: i. Elizabeth "Betty" Turner died BEF AUG 1845. ii. Miles Turner. iii. Sarah "Sally" Turner was born 1804 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. iv. Louisa Turner was born BEF 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory. v. Winslow Turner III was born 29 JAN 1811 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 6 MAY 1880 in McDade, Bastrop County, Texas. vi. Mary Turner was born 21 JAN 1816 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 4 SEP 1853 in Victoria County or Goliad County, Texas. vii. Edwin Turner was born 1820 in Upper Cuivre, St. Charles District, Missouri Territory, and died 1861 in Civil War. viii. Hiram M. Turner was born 1822 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri. ix. Stephen Robert Turner was born 1824 in Missouri, and died 1870 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. ---------------------------------------------- SISTER OF MALKIJAH WILLIAMS Teresa (Turner) WILLIAMS Given Name: Teresa (Turner) Surname: Williams Sex: F Birth: in Tennessee Death: 23 Nov 1873 in Bastrop, Texas -- Event: Fact #1 Stepdaughter of Winslow Turner II; most often used surname Turner ---- Census: 1850 Travis County, Texas: #18, Farmer ($1, 000) Burial: Bastrop City Cemetary ------ Father: ? WILLIAMS Mother: Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS ------ Marriage 1 Samuel HIGHSMITH b: 1804 in Boone County, Kentucky Married: 4 Sep 1826 in Troy, Lincoln County, Missouri 1 ------ Children Malcijah Benjamin (Kige) HIGHSMITH b: 17 May 1827 in Old Caney, Bazoria Co., Texas Sarah Jane HIGHSMITH b: 13 Nov 1830 Amanda Louisa HIGHSMITH b: 1832 in Gonzales, Texas Henry Albert HIGHSMITH b: 11 Jan 1843 in Bastrop, Texas Edwin W. HIGHSMITH b: 1845 ----------------------------------------------- THIS WOULD APPEAR TO BE MARY ELIZABETH'S FATHER, MY GRGRGRGRGRANDFATHER. Name: Alembe Williams Sex: M Death: AFT 13 MAY 1835 in Lincoln County, Missouri Event: Migrated 1831 Missouri to Texas Military Service: War of 1812: served under Capt. Daniel M. Boone and Capt. Callaway Military Service: Revolutionary War: served under Capt. Michael Randolph, Col. Henry Lee, discharge from Gen. Nathaniel Green Military Service: 10 JUN 1781 Revolutionary War: enlisted in Capt. Moore's company of the First North Carolina Infantry commanded by Major Armstrong Event: Appointed Judge of election of Bedford Township [Troy] Missouri ------------- Marriage 1 Sarah Clark Children Mary Elizabeth (Mrs.) Williams (MY GRGRGRGRGrandmother) Joshua Williams Job Williams b: BET 1782 AND 1783 Levin Williams Alembe C. Williams b: 31 MAY 1791 James Williams Levi Williams John Williams Mary Williams Sarah Williams ----------------------------------------------- Here are some of the DeWitt Colony residents that my or may not be connected to my family line, would appreciate any and all imput. John WILLIAMS?? Eziekiel WILLIAMS?? Mary Elizabeth (Williams)(Williams)TURNER Winslow TURNER, Jr. Malkijah WILLIAMS Cynthe(Burns)WILLIAMS Teresa (Williams-Turner)HIGHSMITH Samuel HIGHSMITH Mary Ann (Williams)COTTLE Isaac COTTLE Alumbee WILLIAMS Job WILLIAMS(m:Nancy Campbell) Allambee WILLIAMS,Jr.(m:Sarah Clark) Arthur BURNS ----------------------------------------------- MY GRGRGRANDPARENTS: Thomas R. WILLIAMS son of Malkijah Williams & Cynthe Ann (Burns)Williams. Sex: M Birth: 19 NOV 1836 in Gonzales Co., TX Death: 8 AUG 1919 in Charco, TX Burial: Salem Cem., Lavaca Co., TX Military Service: 13 MAR 1862 1st Sgt Co. E 21st TX Cav Military Service: Enlisted in Lavaca Co. Military Service: 31 OCT 1863 Present at last roll call Marriage 1 Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM b: 1846 Married: 23 FEB 1859 ----------- Name: Mary Antoinetta BECKHAM Sex: F ALIA: /Nettie/ Birth: 1846 Death: 1905 in San Antonio, TX ------- Children Mary Estella WILLIAMS b: 10 JUN 1860 in Nueces Co., TX Lula Lavinia WILLIAMS b: 25 JAN 1868 in Lavaca Co., TX Bishop Burns WILLIAMS b: 3 JAN 1870 in Lavaca Co., TX Lewis Beckham WILLIAMS b: 3 AUG 1872 in Lavaca Co., TX Thomas Homer WILLIAMS b: 18 SEP 1874 in Lavaca Co., TX John Paul WILLIAMS b: 19 NOV 1876 in Lavaca Co., TX Silas Ward WILLIAMS b: 5 JUL 1879 Mabel Grace WILLIAMS b: 1881 in San Antonio, TX MY GREATGRANDPARENTS ARE THOMAS HOMER WILLIAMS and CARRIE (Cavender)WILLIAMS. ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. 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