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    1. Subject lines
    2. David Holland
    3. Like many researchers, I am subscribed to multiple lists and do not have time to look at every message on every list. If you want your message to be read by those who may have helpful information, use the subject line to get their attention. Names, dates, and locations should be shown. A sample subject line might be: Finis Ewing Turner: 1823-1905 (TN>AR) which denotes that I am looking for F.E. Turner, b. 1823, TN; d. 1905, AR. I might also say: Finis Ewing Turner m. Mary Jane Spain 1856, IL to indicate the marriage date and location if I did not have birth and death data. Subject lines like these will help both the poster and the lister in making connections far more than subjects such as: "Need help" "Turner Family" (especially to the Turner list) "John Turner" (which John Turner?) "Hello" "Maryland to Georgia" (Who?When?) David Holland --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.

    08/06/2006 07:57:53
    1. Re: [TURNER] Maryland to Georgia
    2. Linda Hallman
    3. What about her son Wilson? Would he have be eligibled to apply? He kept his name Turner. I did not find anything for a pension under the name Wilson Turner or Wilson Miller. Wilson had thirteen children, so I'm sure he could have used the money! Thanks. At 08:09 AM 08/06/2006, you wrote: >Pensions were not available if the widow remarried. > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Hallman" <dixierose@alltel.net> >To: <TURNER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 6:38 AM >Subject: Re: [TURNER] Maryland to Georgia > > >> >>I have looked for a pension on Mary and her son Wilson. Nothing. Mary >>re-married in 1812. Would that be any reason >>for not finding a pension? Both mother and son drew in land lottery, >>but this gives nothing on Sampson. I am open to >>any suggestion as where to search. Thanks Gail for your reply. >> >>Linda >>At 10:52 PM 08/05/2006, you wrote: >>>Linda, >>> >>>Did Mary draw a pension on Sampson's Rev. War service? It would seem >>>that if she lived until 1850, she would have filed for pension. The >>>widow's pensions usually contain a lot of information. >>>Gail >>> >>>Linda Hallman wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Hello List, >>>> >>>>I am trying to find documentation to prove that Sampson Turner was born >>>>in Maryland. He was a revolutionary war soldier for Maryland. Sampson >>>>was born about 1760 ( Worcester Co Maryland ) and died about 1804/5 in >>>>Hancock Co. Ga. He married his cousin Mary Turner b. 10th March 1763 in >>>>Worcester County and died 17th Dec 1850 in Hancock Co. Ga. Mary was the >>>>daughter >>>>of Zadoc Turner, revolutionary soldier of Maryland and Sabra Hicks. >>>> >>>>Sampson and Mary had one child, Wilson Turner b. 1800 in Baldwin Co. Ga. >>>> >>>>Any help with this family of Turners, will be greatly apprecitated. >>>> >>>>Linda >>>>Thomaston, Ga. >>> >>> >>>==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >>>Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >>> >>>============================== >>>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>>marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >>Visit my webpage: >> >>Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman >> >> >>==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >>Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx Visit my webpage: Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman

    08/06/2006 02:51:32
    1. Re: [TURNER] Maryland to Georgia
    2. Pensions were not available if the widow remarried. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Hallman" <dixierose@alltel.net> To: <TURNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Maryland to Georgia > > I have looked for a pension on Mary and her son Wilson. Nothing. Mary > re-married in 1812. Would that be any reason > for not finding a pension? Both mother and son drew in land lottery, > but this gives nothing on Sampson. I am open to > any suggestion as where to search. Thanks Gail for your reply. > > Linda > At 10:52 PM 08/05/2006, you wrote: >>Linda, >> >>Did Mary draw a pension on Sampson's Rev. War service? It would seem that >>if she lived until 1850, she would have filed for pension. The widow's >>pensions usually contain a lot of information. >>Gail >> >>Linda Hallman wrote: >> >>> >>>Hello List, >>> >>>I am trying to find documentation to prove that Sampson Turner was born >>>in Maryland. He was a revolutionary war soldier for Maryland. Sampson was >>>born about 1760 ( Worcester Co Maryland ) and died about 1804/5 in >>>Hancock Co. Ga. He married his cousin Mary Turner b. 10th March 1763 in >>>Worcester County and died 17th Dec 1850 in Hancock Co. Ga. Mary was the >>>daughter >>>of Zadoc Turner, revolutionary soldier of Maryland and Sabra Hicks. >>> >>>Sampson and Mary had one child, Wilson Turner b. 1800 in Baldwin Co. Ga. >>> >>>Any help with this family of Turners, will be greatly apprecitated. >>> >>>Linda >>>Thomaston, Ga. >> >> >>==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >>Turner list website - >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >> >>============================== >>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > Visit my webpage: > > Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    08/06/2006 02:09:02
    1. Re: [TURNER] Maryland to Georgia
    2. Linda Hallman
    3. I have looked for a pension on Mary and her son Wilson. Nothing. Mary re-married in 1812. Would that be any reason for not finding a pension? Both mother and son drew in land lottery, but this gives nothing on Sampson. I am open to any suggestion as where to search. Thanks Gail for your reply. Linda At 10:52 PM 08/05/2006, you wrote: >Linda, > >Did Mary draw a pension on Sampson's Rev. War service? It would seem that >if she lived until 1850, she would have filed for pension. The widow's >pensions usually contain a lot of information. >Gail > >Linda Hallman wrote: > >> >>Hello List, >> >>I am trying to find documentation to prove that Sampson Turner was born >>in Maryland. He was a revolutionary war soldier for Maryland. Sampson was >>born about 1760 ( Worcester Co Maryland ) and died about 1804/5 in >>Hancock Co. Ga. He married his cousin Mary Turner b. 10th March 1763 in >>Worcester County and died 17th Dec 1850 in Hancock Co. Ga. Mary was the >>daughter >>of Zadoc Turner, revolutionary soldier of Maryland and Sabra Hicks. >> >>Sampson and Mary had one child, Wilson Turner b. 1800 in Baldwin Co. Ga. >> >>Any help with this family of Turners, will be greatly apprecitated. >> >>Linda >>Thomaston, Ga. > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx Visit my webpage: Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman

    08/06/2006 12:38:43
    1. Re: [TURNER] Maryland to Georgia
    2. Gail R. Blancett
    3. Linda, Did Mary draw a pension on Sampson's Rev. War service? It would seem that if she lived until 1850, she would have filed for pension. The widow's pensions usually contain a lot of information. Gail Linda Hallman wrote: > > Hello List, > > I am trying to find documentation to prove that Sampson Turner was > born in Maryland. He was a revolutionary war soldier for Maryland. > Sampson was born about 1760 ( Worcester Co Maryland ) and died about > 1804/5 in Hancock Co. Ga. He married his cousin Mary Turner b. 10th > March 1763 in Worcester County and died 17th Dec 1850 in Hancock Co. > Ga. Mary was the daughter > of Zadoc Turner, revolutionary soldier of Maryland and Sabra Hicks. > > Sampson and Mary had one child, Wilson Turner b. 1800 in Baldwin Co. Ga. > > Any help with this family of Turners, will be greatly apprecitated. > > Linda > Thomaston, Ga. >

    08/05/2006 04:52:07
    1. Maryland to Georgia
    2. Linda Hallman
    3. Hello List, I am trying to find documentation to prove that Sampson Turner was born in Maryland. He was a revolutionary war soldier for Maryland. Sampson was born about 1760 ( Worcester Co Maryland ) and died about 1804/5 in Hancock Co. Ga. He married his cousin Mary Turner b. 10th March 1763 in Worcester County and died 17th Dec 1850 in Hancock Co. Ga. Mary was the daughter of Zadoc Turner, revolutionary soldier of Maryland and Sabra Hicks. Sampson and Mary had one child, Wilson Turner b. 1800 in Baldwin Co. Ga. Any help with this family of Turners, will be greatly apprecitated. Linda Thomaston, Ga. Visit my webpage: Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman

    08/05/2006 02:44:10
    1. Re: [TURNER] Hello
    2. Lowell Berenguer
    3. Hi. Where did they live, please? Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Dillard" <bubdillard@gmail.com> To: <TURNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: [TURNER] Hello > Hello, > > My name is James Kevin DIllard. Alma Mae 'Addie' Turner was my > great-grandmother. She married James Alfred Dillard in 1918. I am > interested > in recieving any information about Alma Mae Turner. Thank you. > > Sincerely, > > James 'Kevin' Dillard > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

    08/05/2006 07:20:26
    1. Hello
    2. Kevin Dillard
    3. Hello, My name is James Kevin DIllard. Alma Mae 'Addie' Turner was my great-grandmother. She married James Alfred Dillard in 1918. I am interested in recieving any information about Alma Mae Turner. Thank you. Sincerely, James 'Kevin' Dillard

    08/05/2006 06:29:43
    1. Fw: Looking for M Pounders
    2. Donald Turner
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Turner" <dturner8@hot.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:05 AM Subject: Looking for M Pounders > Margaret Pounders, if you are on this list please e-mail me. The address > I have for you is no longer good. > Donald Turner

    08/01/2006 03:00:35
    1. Re: [TURNER] Re:Richard Presley or Preston Turner?
    2. lisa chatelain
    3. Gail, Thanks so much for all the information. Genealogy can have quite a few surprises for us and that can make it more interesting. I have three lines I just wish someone would participate in the DNA testing for some answers. Descendents of Littleton Turner (SC to TX), Madison Turner (TN to TX0 and Ruffin Turner (NC to TX) to find out if we have any connections there. "Gail R. Blancett" <ablancett@atlantic.net> wrote: Lisa, We don't have this particular Little Berry Turner (born 1831) on the chart but we do have descendants of what are almost certainly his two brothers--William Thora Turner and James Turner. See Kit #17945 and #14043 in Group 7 (Pumpkin Colored) on our DNA Project Results chart. Little Berry, James and William T. R. Turner are all listed in the Bible record that belonged to John M. Turner and Sarah Canks or Hanks. This John M. Turner was born around 1800 probably in SC died in 1837 in Benton Co., AL (later called Calhoun Co.). The researchers on that line originally said he was a son of Zachariah Turner who in turn was said to be son of William and Sarah Denny Turner. However, somehow or other, I think there is a problem on this as this group DOES NOT match two other lines that are also said to be sons of William and Sarah Denny Turner. At this point, we can't say for sure which line is incorrectly traced but it does appear to me (and I know I may make some folks mad here) that the paper trail makes a bit more sense for the two lines to Daniel Turner and to Nathan Turner (which also claim William and Sarah Denny Turner) to be correct. They are Kits #41832 and #31580 (Group 20--Slate Blue) on our results chart. We know from deed records in Laurens Co., SC, tax, land lottery and deeds in Franklin Co., GA, and records in Roane Co., TN that it appears we can group together a William with wife Sarah, Zachariah Turner, Nathan Turner, and Daniel Turner with that migration path. John M. Turner is born in SC about 1800, marries in 1817 (per Bible record) but place not known, and has children being born in the 1819 to about 1825 time period in SC. Exactly where the other children were born isn't as clear. Some of the researchers say he was in Gwinnett Co., GA in 1830. To me, it doesn't make since for Zachariah Turner to have gone to TN by 1812 and then have his son marrying and having children in SC in the 1817-1825 time period. What is interesting to me is the most recent result we have for a new member of our Turner DNA Project that may open up something promising for this Pumpkin colored group. We have a man who has a good line back to John Turner who died in 1751 in Isle of Wight, VA. He matches this Pumpkin Group! We also have indications that Kit #28634 also in that Pumpkin Group to a William P. Turner born about 1827 in NC who is in Sumter Co., AL in 1850 living in the household of a Penelope Turner may connect to a Matthew Turner who died about 1811 whose wife was Patience Dickinson. I think this is the Wayne Co., NC Matthew Turner. 1820 Wayne Co., NC has Patience Turner head of household and remains there through 1830 Census. Then she is on 1840 and 1850 Census of Sumter Co., AL. I am NOT saying William P. Turner is their son but related somehow to that group of Turners. This could then connect this Matthew Turner of Wayne Co., NC to the Isle of Wight group based on the DNA. Of course, we need others that know they connect to this group to test. Patience and Matthew Turner apparently had at least one son named Benjamin Dickinson Turner who lived in Sumter Co., AL. My gut level feeling after working on this group of Turners is that the James S. Turner who married Penelope Simms of the Hancock and Taliaferro Co., GA area is related to this group of Turners also. I think he then ties in with Coweta Co., GA. I do believe that the newest result for a descendant of one branch of Turners that we know was in Isle of Wight Co., VA with a Will could help these other folks. The more lines with good documentation back to early lines will eventually allow the DNA project to have a major impact in our understanding of how these groups are related or not related and follow migration routes that they took as they moved across the US. Gail R. Blancett Administrator Turner DNA Project lisa chatelain wrote: >Do we have Little Berry on the DNA chart? > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

    07/28/2006 03:08:56
    1. RE: [TURNER] Squire Turner
    2. Sage Joyner
    3. Pam, Thanks for the clue. I'll look at what is there. Sage -----Original Message----- From: Pam Sulzer [mailto:psulzer47@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:14 AM To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TURNER] Squire Turner Squire's father's name was Thomas Turner. The entire genealogy, going way back to NC, is posted at World Connect at Rootsweb.com. There seem to be several people researching this line that you can email for more info. Good luck, Pam Sage Joyner <sagej@pixius.net> wrote: I'm trying to find the ancestors of Squire Turner born abt. 1793 and married Elizabeth Stone. They lived in Clark Co., KY and had a daughter, Mary Ann Turner, who married T. J. Hood. Any help would be appreciated. If we can find the ancestors, is there any DNA connections to current Turners? Sage Joyner ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We&acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    07/28/2006 06:56:47
    1. Re: [TURNER] Re:Richard Presley or Preston Turner?
    2. Gail R. Blancett
    3. Lisa, We don't have this particular Little Berry Turner (born 1831) on the chart but we do have descendants of what are almost certainly his two brothers--William Thora Turner and James Turner. See Kit #17945 and #14043 in Group 7 (Pumpkin Colored) on our DNA Project Results chart. Little Berry, James and William T. R. Turner are all listed in the Bible record that belonged to John M. Turner and Sarah Canks or Hanks. This John M. Turner was born around 1800 probably in SC died in 1837 in Benton Co., AL (later called Calhoun Co.). The researchers on that line originally said he was a son of Zachariah Turner who in turn was said to be son of William and Sarah Denny Turner. However, somehow or other, I think there is a problem on this as this group DOES NOT match two other lines that are also said to be sons of William and Sarah Denny Turner. At this point, we can't say for sure which line is incorrectly traced but it does appear to me (and I know I may make some folks mad here) that the paper trail makes a bit more sense for the two lines to Daniel Turner and to Nathan Turner (which also claim William and Sarah Denny Turner) to be correct. They are Kits #41832 and #31580 (Group 20--Slate Blue) on our results chart. We know from deed records in Laurens Co., SC, tax, land lottery and deeds in Franklin Co., GA, and records in Roane Co., TN that it appears we can group together a William with wife Sarah, Zachariah Turner, Nathan Turner, and Daniel Turner with that migration path. John M. Turner is born in SC about 1800, marries in 1817 (per Bible record) but place not known, and has children being born in the 1819 to about 1825 time period in SC. Exactly where the other children were born isn't as clear. Some of the researchers say he was in Gwinnett Co., GA in 1830. To me, it doesn't make since for Zachariah Turner to have gone to TN by 1812 and then have his son marrying and having children in SC in the 1817-1825 time period. What is interesting to me is the most recent result we have for a new member of our Turner DNA Project that may open up something promising for this Pumpkin colored group. We have a man who has a good line back to John Turner who died in 1751 in Isle of Wight, VA. He matches this Pumpkin Group! We also have indications that Kit #28634 also in that Pumpkin Group to a William P. Turner born about 1827 in NC who is in Sumter Co., AL in 1850 living in the household of a Penelope Turner may connect to a Matthew Turner who died about 1811 whose wife was Patience Dickinson. I think this is the Wayne Co., NC Matthew Turner. 1820 Wayne Co., NC has Patience Turner head of household and remains there through 1830 Census. Then she is on 1840 and 1850 Census of Sumter Co., AL. I am NOT saying William P. Turner is their son but related somehow to that group of Turners. This could then connect this Matthew Turner of Wayne Co., NC to the Isle of Wight group based on the DNA. Of course, we need others that know they connect to this group to test. Patience and Matthew Turner apparently had at least one son named Benjamin Dickinson Turner who lived in Sumter Co., AL. My gut level feeling after working on this group of Turners is that the James S. Turner who married Penelope Simms of the Hancock and Taliaferro Co., GA area is related to this group of Turners also. I think he then ties in with Coweta Co., GA. I do believe that the newest result for a descendant of one branch of Turners that we know was in Isle of Wight Co., VA with a Will could help these other folks. The more lines with good documentation back to early lines will eventually allow the DNA project to have a major impact in our understanding of how these groups are related or not related and follow migration routes that they took as they moved across the US. Gail R. Blancett Administrator Turner DNA Project lisa chatelain wrote: >Do we have Little Berry on the DNA chart? > > > > >

    07/28/2006 05:36:53
    1. Squire Turner
    2. Sage Joyner
    3. I'm trying to find the ancestors of Squire Turner born abt. 1793 and married Elizabeth Stone. They lived in Clark Co., KY and had a daughter, Mary Ann Turner, who married T. J. Hood. Any help would be appreciated. If we can find the ancestors, is there any DNA connections to current Turners? Sage Joyner

    07/28/2006 04:24:15
    1. Re: [TURNER] Squire Turner
    2. Pam Sulzer
    3. Squire's father's name was Thomas Turner. The entire genealogy, going way back to NC, is posted at World Connect at Rootsweb.com. There seem to be several people researching this line that you can email for more info. Good luck, Pam Sage Joyner <sagej@pixius.net> wrote: I'm trying to find the ancestors of Squire Turner born abt. 1793 and married Elizabeth Stone. They lived in Clark Co., KY and had a daughter, Mary Ann Turner, who married T. J. Hood. Any help would be appreciated. If we can find the ancestors, is there any DNA connections to current Turners? Sage Joyner ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We&acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.

    07/28/2006 03:13:35
    1. Re: [TURNER] Re:Richard Presley or Preston Turner?
    2. lisa chatelain
    3. Do we have Little Berry on the DNA chart? "Gail R. Blancett" <ablancett@atlantic.net> wrote: I don't know if there is a connection between Charlie M. Campbell and Frances Marion Campbell (listed as 32 on the 1860 Randolph Co., AL census. They were living in the household of a R. C. Tennison. Little Berry Turner had an older sister, Jane or Jaine who was married first to George Haywood and second to Frances Marion Campbell. Jane/Jaine Turner was born October 1, 1821 in SC. Have you actually viewed the Guion Miller Applications to see what the ancestry was for Richard Preston Turner? Those applications are quite extensive as they had to provide proofs of ancestors and many other relatives. I don't know what happened to Richard Presley Turner--this isn't my own line but I work on many line as I help our DNA project members and try to have a feel for what different lines of Turners we are documenting which might help explain how matches are occuring. Gail SewzArt@aol.com wrote: >Thank you so much for this information. >Actuall my dau. in law is desc. from Little Berry Turner through his dau. >Sarah M (Matthias)(?) Turner who married Charlie M. Campbell and had a son, >Jefferson Davis Campbell who married Maybell Martin. > >I am just trying to see if there is a connection of the family to this >Richard preston turner on the Guion Rolls because if there is a connection then my >dau. in law may have the same lineage amd therefore have a NA connection. >She has proven connctions on other lines, in fact it is on the Maybell >Martin Campbell line which goes back to a NA Holcombe and Butler families. >did Richard Presley Turner wind up in Cullman Co. Al. and a preacher? I sort >of think so. I`ll need to recheck. I know some of the Tennison family came >this way. >Thanks again >and keep in touch. >sue in Al. > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We&acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.

    07/28/2006 01:24:50
    1. Re: [TURNER] Re:Richard Presley or Preston Turner?
    2. Gail R. Blancett
    3. I don't know if there is a connection between Charlie M. Campbell and Frances Marion Campbell (listed as 32 on the 1860 Randolph Co., AL census. They were living in the household of a R. C. Tennison. Little Berry Turner had an older sister, Jane or Jaine who was married first to George Haywood and second to Frances Marion Campbell. Jane/Jaine Turner was born October 1, 1821 in SC. Have you actually viewed the Guion Miller Applications to see what the ancestry was for Richard Preston Turner? Those applications are quite extensive as they had to provide proofs of ancestors and many other relatives. I don't know what happened to Richard Presley Turner--this isn't my own line but I work on many line as I help our DNA project members and try to have a feel for what different lines of Turners we are documenting which might help explain how matches are occuring. Gail SewzArt@aol.com wrote: >Thank you so much for this information. >Actuall my dau. in law is desc. from Little Berry Turner through his dau. >Sarah M (Matthias)(?) Turner who married Charlie M. Campbell and had a son, >Jefferson Davis Campbell who married Maybell Martin. > >I am just trying to see if there is a connection of the family to this >Richard preston turner on the Guion Rolls because if there is a connection then my >dau. in law may have the same lineage amd therefore have a NA connection. >She has proven connctions on other lines, in fact it is on the Maybell >Martin Campbell line which goes back to a NA Holcombe and Butler families. >did Richard Presley Turner wind up in Cullman Co. Al. and a preacher? I sort >of think so. I`ll need to recheck. I know some of the Tennison family came >this way. >Thanks again >and keep in touch. >sue in Al. > > > > > >

    07/27/2006 12:19:02
    1. Re: [TURNER] Re:Richard Presley or Preston Turner?
    2. Thank you so much for this information. Actuall my dau. in law is desc. from Little Berry Turner through his dau. Sarah M (Matthias)(?) Turner who married Charlie M. Campbell and had a son, Jefferson Davis Campbell who married Maybell Martin. I am just trying to see if there is a connection of the family to this Richard preston turner on the Guion Rolls because if there is a connection then my dau. in law may have the same lineage amd therefore have a NA connection. She has proven connctions on other lines, in fact it is on the Maybell Martin Campbell line which goes back to a NA Holcombe and Butler families. did Richard Presley Turner wind up in Cullman Co. Al. and a preacher? I sort of think so. I`ll need to recheck. I know some of the Tennison family came this way. Thanks again and keep in touch. sue in Al.

    07/27/2006 11:49:21
    1. Re: [TURNER] Re:Richard Presley or Preston Turner?
    2. Gail R. Blancett
    3. Lori, Don't know if this helps or not. But, it appears that Richard Presley Turner of Cleburne Co., AL was 4 years old in 1870 Census of Cleburne Co., AL living in the household of L. B. (Little Berry) Turner and his wife Lida A. (said to be Lidia Luduska Tennison). He is listed in 1880 Census with same parents as as R. P. Turner, age 14. Little Berry Turner is supposedly the son of John M. Turner and Sarah Canks or Hanks Turner. John M. Turner said to be the state legislator from Benton Co., AL who died in 1837. This is where it gets confusing. In 1850 Census, Little Berry Turner and his twin are living in the household of a Nancy Turner in Randolph Co., AL. The names of part of the children living in the same household match up with those listed in the Bible said to be the one that belonged to John M. and Sarah Turner. Those living around Nancy in Randolph Co., AL suggests this is the correct woman but still can't explain her being listed as Nancy in this census. In 1860 and 1870 she appears to be listed correctly as Sarah. We have descendants of two other brothers of Little Berry Turner in our Turner DNA Project--James and William Thora Turner both listed in the same Bible. Are you descended from the Richard Presley Turner of Cleburne Co., AL or of the one listed as Richard Preston Turner on the Guion Miller Rolls? If you have a question about which one, you might be helped by having a male Turner of your group (if you know of one) who could join us in the project and see if your Turners match these others. Gail SewzArt@aol.com wrote: >Maybe someone can help me distinguish between two Richard P. Turners of >Abama > 1st >Richard Presley Turner of Cleburne Co. Al. >2nd >Richard "Preston" Turner who is registered on the Rolls I think on the Guion >Miller Roll and gives place of residence as "Al" >Could there possibly be an error and they are one and the same man >Or >Are they, indeed, 2 different men? >I`ll be checking some sources but will certainly appreciate some input. >Lori > > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > >

    07/27/2006 10:44:36
    1. RE: [TURNER] Turner marriages, Henry Co, GA, before 1850
    2. Sarah Lingwall
    3. No, this William Beverly Turner was born in Georgia. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Turner [mailto:turner@ecentral.com] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:29 PM To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [TURNER] Turner marriages, Henry Co, GA, before 1850 Hi, Was this William B Turner of Spartanburg SC? Did he have a will about 1855? Curious, JT -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Lingwall [mailto:fox10@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:26 AM To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TURNER] Turner marriages, Henry Co, GA, before 1850 I just found this in my files (with no note as to where it came from). Perhaps the info will be useful to someone. My Turner is William B. Turner who married Mary Ann Ragland Sept 20, 1849. Sarah Turner, Aaron Spouse: King, Nancy [Mrs] Marriage Date: Oct 14, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Aaron Spouse: Turner, Esther Marriage Date: Oct 24, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Alexander Spouse: Duncan, Charlotte Marriage Date: Jun 4, 1827 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Allen W. Spouse: Low, Lucy A. Marriage Date: Jan 4, 1843 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, D. T. Spouse: Wise, Sarah Marriage Date: Jun 23, 1850 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Fleming H. Spouse: Moore, Jane C. Marriage Date: Dec 22, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, George L. Spouse: Clifton, Mary Marriage Date: Mar 4, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Henry M. Spouse: Stewart, Nancy M. Marriage Date: Jun 4, 1835 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James J. Spouse: Greer, Nancy A. Marriage Date: Oct 16, 1834 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James J. Spouse: Russell, Martha Marriage Date: Mar 10, 1831 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James T. Spouse: ---, Frances G. Marriage Date: Oct 5, 1837 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James W. Spouse: Owens, Martha J. Marriage Date: May 17, 1849 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, John Spouse: Barton, Caroline Marriage Date: Mar 7, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, John F. Spouse: Ivy, Martha A. Marriage Date: Oct 13, 1842 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Joseph T. Spouse: Brown, Martha Marriage Date: Dec 19, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Len H. Spouse: Harper, Frances Marriage Date: Jan 5, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Levi Spouse: Turner, Cloey Marriage Date: Oct 6, 1836 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Memory C. Spouse: Ammons, Amanda M. Marriage Date: Sep 4, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Pleasant B. Spouse: Harper, Abolyhannah Marriage Date: Dec 3, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Sherard W. Spouse: Mcvickers, Mary Marriage Date: Dec 7, 1847 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, William Spouse: Johnson, Sarah Marriage Date: Mar 12, 1845 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, William B. Spouse: Ragland, Mary A. Marriage Date: Sep 20, 1849 Marriage County: Henry County -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006

    07/20/2006 02:40:34
    1. RE: [TURNER] Turner marriages, Henry Co, GA, before 1850
    2. Jim Turner
    3. Hi, Was this William B Turner of Spartanburg SC? Did he have a will about 1855? Curious, JT -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Lingwall [mailto:fox10@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:26 AM To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TURNER] Turner marriages, Henry Co, GA, before 1850 I just found this in my files (with no note as to where it came from). Perhaps the info will be useful to someone. My Turner is William B. Turner who married Mary Ann Ragland Sept 20, 1849. Sarah Turner, Aaron Spouse: King, Nancy [Mrs] Marriage Date: Oct 14, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Aaron Spouse: Turner, Esther Marriage Date: Oct 24, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Alexander Spouse: Duncan, Charlotte Marriage Date: Jun 4, 1827 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Allen W. Spouse: Low, Lucy A. Marriage Date: Jan 4, 1843 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, D. T. Spouse: Wise, Sarah Marriage Date: Jun 23, 1850 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Fleming H. Spouse: Moore, Jane C. Marriage Date: Dec 22, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, George L. Spouse: Clifton, Mary Marriage Date: Mar 4, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Henry M. Spouse: Stewart, Nancy M. Marriage Date: Jun 4, 1835 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James J. Spouse: Greer, Nancy A. Marriage Date: Oct 16, 1834 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James J. Spouse: Russell, Martha Marriage Date: Mar 10, 1831 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James T. Spouse: ---, Frances G. Marriage Date: Oct 5, 1837 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, James W. Spouse: Owens, Martha J. Marriage Date: May 17, 1849 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, John Spouse: Barton, Caroline Marriage Date: Mar 7, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, John F. Spouse: Ivy, Martha A. Marriage Date: Oct 13, 1842 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Joseph T. Spouse: Brown, Martha Marriage Date: Dec 19, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Len H. Spouse: Harper, Frances Marriage Date: Jan 5, 1830 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Levi Spouse: Turner, Cloey Marriage Date: Oct 6, 1836 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Memory C. Spouse: Ammons, Amanda M. Marriage Date: Sep 4, 1838 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Pleasant B. Spouse: Harper, Abolyhannah Marriage Date: Dec 3, 1839 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, Sherard W. Spouse: Mcvickers, Mary Marriage Date: Dec 7, 1847 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, William Spouse: Johnson, Sarah Marriage Date: Mar 12, 1845 Marriage County: Henry County Turner, William B. Spouse: Ragland, Mary A. Marriage Date: Sep 20, 1849 Marriage County: Henry County -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

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