A few other research tips are: Use Ancestry to look up the person you are researching. Without a membership it will not let you see the actual source but it will say at least WHERE the source was found like "1870 State, County, etc". You can take that information and at least know the area to search on HQ. Saves a lot of time. Ancestry is expensive but oh so worth it to me. Another option, even though it is not always listed on the Ancestry site you CAN get a 3 month membership. Save up all your research questions and use it for 3 months, then do more research NOT on Ancestry until you come up with enough dead ends to justify using it for another three months. Also, when you get the information from Ancestry try the rootsweb listings and genweb for those areas to see maybe if there are transcriptions available for what you need. Use Worldcat (Worldwide Catalog of libraries all over the world) to check to see the holdings other libraries have for your research area. You can get them (if they are loanable) through interlibrary loan. If they are NOT on the library's list of circulation allowed books ask the library for copies of the index pages. Can't hurt anyway. :) Last but CERTAINLY not least is to do the old GOGGLE seach on your ancestor's name. Putting quotation marks around the words will make sure the words are found together and not just one of each on the site,. ie "Thomas Cain Turner" instead of Thomas Cain Turner. Use spelling variations as MANY times the spelling of the name was a matter of hearing and "that's what it sounded like they said" *grin* Just some ideas. With my Turner info is scarce as it is I have had to become very resourceful. Not that it is helping on that line at this point. LOL Good luck

Don't forget, however that Ancestry has every name indexing for the census and 1850 which HQ does not have plus many more resources other than census. I have and use both Ancestry and HQ in my online searches. They both are useful. The NEHGS site for members of the society is another good online subscription for those with New England roots. A NEHGS membership is $75 per year. They will be losing their access to HQ I believe along with other genealogical societies mentioned earlier in this thread. But they have other unique resources and the quarterly journal subscription mailed to ones home. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Faye Lawton" <fuzdawg@metrocast.net> To: <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Heritage Quest rumor not true for all libraries > Quite right! I just talked to a Librarian here in The Gale Library in > Laconia. She gave me all the info I needed to sign on and use HQ.!!! > > Great site, 'specially since the way Ancestry.com is charging these > days... > > Thanks for finding out for me!!! > > BFaye

Quite right! I just talked to a Librarian here in The Gale Library in Laconia. She gave me all the info I needed to sign on and use HQ.!!! Great site, 'specially since the way Ancestry.com is charging these days... Thanks for finding out for me!!! BFaye Betty Faye HOLT Lawton email: fuzdawg@metrocast.net http://www2.tribalpages.com/tribe/ browse?userid=luvgrits&view=9&rand=339369332 or: http://tinyurl.com/q9yv5 Researching: Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, ELLIOTT, WHEELER Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, TUCKER, TURNER, MATHIS, RUTHERFORD On Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006, at 09:59 US/Eastern, MysticVisions@aol.com wrote: > I just checked with our local library in Hillsborough County Florida. > They > have no information about stopping this service. We are a pretty > large > county and they really keep on top of things here. It is up to > individual > libraries. > Just FYI, you can get an out of area library card to our library for > $30.00 > which will give you access to HQ from home among a ton of other things > like > Conumer guides, Newspapers and magazine from around the > country...etc. > > _http://www.hcplc.org/hcplc/ig/_ (http://www.hcplc.org/hcplc/ig/) >

I just checked with our local library in Hillsborough County Florida. They have no information about stopping this service. We are a pretty large county and they really keep on top of things here. It is up to individual libraries. Just FYI, you can get an out of area library card to our library for $30.00 which will give you access to HQ from home among a ton of other things like Conumer guides, Newspapers and magazine from around the country...etc. _http://www.hcplc.org/hcplc/ig/_ (http://www.hcplc.org/hcplc/ig/)

I am not sure. I live in a rural area and the public library here does not have Heritage Quest - I did check that out. I thought it was the remote access that was being stopped regardless of which organization offered it. But, again, I am not sure. Carolyn DeWolfe P.O. Box 125 Hampden-Sydney, VA, 23943 434-223-8755 carolynd@hsc.edu ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 22:40:28 -0400 > It was my understanding that it was only genealogical societies that >could not allow HQ remote access, but that it was allowed through public >libraries. Have you heard anything different? > >Margaret Scheffler > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carolyn deWolfe" <carolynd@hsc.edu> >To: <turner@rootsweb.com>; <turner@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:47 PM >Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner - Heritage Quest > > >> We have just been notified by another genealogical association that >> Heritage Quest will no longer allow access except in a library. I have >> used Heritage Quest for years from home, so I sent an email to Heritage >> Quest to express disappointment in their new policy. They do indeed plan >> to stop remote access effective the end of October, and will allow access >> only in libraries that have their service. >> >> >> Carolyn Turner DeWolfe >> >> carolynd@hsc.edu >> > > >

It was my understanding that it was only genealogical societies that could not allow HQ remote access, but that it was allowed through public libraries. Have you heard anything different? Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn deWolfe" <carolynd@hsc.edu> To: <turner@rootsweb.com>; <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner - Heritage Quest > We have just been notified by another genealogical association that > Heritage Quest will no longer allow access except in a library. I have > used Heritage Quest for years from home, so I sent an email to Heritage > Quest to express disappointment in their new policy. They do indeed plan > to stop remote access effective the end of October, and will allow access > only in libraries that have their service. > > > Carolyn Turner DeWolfe > > carolynd@hsc.edu >

We have just been notified by another genealogical association that Heritage Quest will no longer allow access except in a library. I have used Heritage Quest for years from home, so I sent an email to Heritage Quest to express disappointment in their new policy. They do indeed plan to stop remote access effective the end of October, and will allow access only in libraries that have their service. Carolyn Turner DeWolfe carolynd@hsc.edu ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Pat Zadrowski <downsouthtx@sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: turner@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT) >Thanks Sarah - I will check with my library to see if they offer a pin number so I can log on at home. Appreciate that bit of info. > Pat > > >Sarah Lingwall <fox10@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Everyone should check with a local library to see if they offer Heritage >Quest. I can use my library card with a pin number from them to log on from >home. Some of the census years are searchable and some you have to browse >page by page but at least it doesn't cost anything. >Sarah > >-----Original Message----- >From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Pat Zadrowski >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:04 AM >To: turner@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner - Dunklin County, MO > > >Do you by any chance have access to the 1910 census, to see if there are >Turners in Dunklin county? Better yet, if you can tell me of a good site to >subscribe to the census I would appreciate it. I use to have access to it >from godfrey.org, but they no longer offer it. I know ancestry has it, but >I'd like an alternative if you know of one. >Thank you again Gail! I appreciate all the time you put into this. >Sincerely, >Pat > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pat, I found the following household in 1910 (not Turners but will address this next): 1910 Census, Dunklin Co., MO, Cotton Hill Twp ED 63, Sheet 4 (Ancestry.com image 7/51) Shores, Jim----Head----38 M once---11 years-----MO MS MO Shores, Gertrude--Wife---30 M once---11 years----7 Children born/4 living ---GA GA TN (consistent with 1900) Shores, Blanche---dau-----7 Shores, Velma-----dau-----5 Shores, James-----son-----2 Shores, Stella-----dau-----8/12 Wilburn, Evert-----laborer----18----MO TN MO So, hoping to find Turners in same area, I did a search of Cotton Hill Twp for 1910. There were a couple of Turners but none of them had birth places that would make sense to be related to Gertrude. I will try adjoining townships but nothing is turning up on Ancestry.com's indexing (using all the wild cards I could think of up to now) that look like they are Gertrude's family. Frankly, I couldn't do genealogy research without Ancestry.com's census images. The indexing is sometimes crazy but if you learn to use all the wild cards and some imagination, you often can eventually find folks. Gail Pat Zadrowski wrote: >Dear Gail, Thank you so much for all the wonderful infotmation!. I completely forgot about the death certificate info. I remember getting it off the internet, but could'nt find it when I put my query in last night. I have very little information on this family. > The census info.is a big help, and I truly appreciate it. > > Do you by any chance have access to the 1910 census, to see if there are Turners in Dunklin county? Better yet, if you can tell me of a good site to subscribe to the census I would appreciate it. I use to have access to it from godfrey.org, but they no longer offer it. I know ancestry has it, but I'd like an alternative if you know of one. > Thank you again Gail! I appreciate all the time you put into this. > Sincerely, > Pat > > > >

Everyone should check with a local library to see if they offer Heritage Quest. I can use my library card with a pin number from them to log on from home. Some of the census years are searchable and some you have to browse page by page but at least it doesn't cost anything. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Zadrowski Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:04 AM To: turner@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner - Dunklin County, MO Do you by any chance have access to the 1910 census, to see if there are Turners in Dunklin county? Better yet, if you can tell me of a good site to subscribe to the census I would appreciate it. I use to have access to it from godfrey.org, but they no longer offer it. I know ancestry has it, but I'd like an alternative if you know of one. Thank you again Gail! I appreciate all the time you put into this. Sincerely, Pat -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006

They also have a book selection. That is tiresome to search page by page but sometimes they have informative stuff. And the Rev War files are usefull. I found my great great great grandfather and 16 pages of his file. It saved sending to NARA. And the pages were much more readable than the photocopies I got from NARA on some other file.

Thanks Sarah - I will check with my library to see if they offer a pin number so I can log on at home. Appreciate that bit of info. Pat Sarah Lingwall <fox10@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: Everyone should check with a local library to see if they offer Heritage Quest. I can use my library card with a pin number from them to log on from home. Some of the census years are searchable and some you have to browse page by page but at least it doesn't cost anything. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Zadrowski Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:04 AM To: turner@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner - Dunklin County, MO Do you by any chance have access to the 1910 census, to see if there are Turners in Dunklin county? Better yet, if you can tell me of a good site to subscribe to the census I would appreciate it. I use to have access to it from godfrey.org, but they no longer offer it. I know ancestry has it, but I'd like an alternative if you know of one. Thank you again Gail! I appreciate all the time you put into this. Sincerely, Pat -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Gail, Thank you so much for all the wonderful infotmation!. I completely forgot about the death certificate info. I remember getting it off the internet, but could'nt find it when I put my query in last night. I have very little information on this family. The census info.is a big help, and I truly appreciate it. Do you by any chance have access to the 1910 census, to see if there are Turners in Dunklin county? Better yet, if you can tell me of a good site to subscribe to the census I would appreciate it. I use to have access to it from godfrey.org, but they no longer offer it. I know ancestry has it, but I'd like an alternative if you know of one. Thank you again Gail! I appreciate all the time you put into this. Sincerely, Pat "Gail R. Blancett" <ablancett@atlantic.net> wrote: Another bit of info. Jim M. Shores born 1870 and Gertrude E. Shores born Sept 28, 1879 (yes that is what the census says) born GA with father born GA and mother born TN were in Dunklin Co., MO in 1900 Census, Freeborn township. Listed as married 1 year. No children with them. At the bottom of the page, last line, is a female Turner. There is a huge black area there so you can't really make out the name except the first letter is an "E" but I'm almost certain it is a female that is head of household. You can't read where she is born but her father and mother are both listed as born in NC. The next line (top of next page) is an Edna Turner daughter born July 30, 1887 (age 12) born in GA father born GA and mother TN. I would guess this is a sister of Gertrude and the female head of household is likely her mother. I tried searching Carroll Co., GA 1880 and didn't come up with the family--at least using search parameters that seemed reasonable. It would appear that the family was likely still in GA if Edna is indeed her sister and she was born in GA in 1887. Don't know if any of this helps or not. Gail Pat Zadrowski wrote: >I'm searching for family of a Gertrude Turner b.Feb. 28, 1879 in Dunklin County, MO., Gertrude md. James Monroe Shores ca 1899 and she died in 1916 in Dunklin County, and is buried in a cemetery in Malden, MO. > > I would like to obtain any info on Gertrude's parents, siblings or other relatives. > Thanks so much > Pat Shores Zadrowski > Houston, TX > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another bit of info. Jim M. Shores born 1870 and Gertrude E. Shores born Sept 28, 1879 (yes that is what the census says) born GA with father born GA and mother born TN were in Dunklin Co., MO in 1900 Census, Freeborn township. Listed as married 1 year. No children with them. At the bottom of the page, last line, is a female Turner. There is a huge black area there so you can't really make out the name except the first letter is an "E" but I'm almost certain it is a female that is head of household. You can't read where she is born but her father and mother are both listed as born in NC. The next line (top of next page) is an Edna Turner daughter born July 30, 1887 (age 12) born in GA father born GA and mother TN. I would guess this is a sister of Gertrude and the female head of household is likely her mother. I tried searching Carroll Co., GA 1880 and didn't come up with the family--at least using search parameters that seemed reasonable. It would appear that the family was likely still in GA if Edna is indeed her sister and she was born in GA in 1887. Don't know if any of this helps or not. Gail Pat Zadrowski wrote: >I'm searching for family of a Gertrude Turner b.Feb. 28, 1879 in Dunklin County, MO., Gertrude md. James Monroe Shores ca 1899 and she died in 1916 in Dunklin County, and is buried in a cemetery in Malden, MO. > > I would like to obtain any info on Gertrude's parents, siblings or other relatives. > Thanks so much > Pat Shores Zadrowski > Houston, TX > > >

Pat, The death certificate for Gertrude Shores says she died on 23 June 1916 in Dunklin Co., MO, Cotton Hill Township. Birth date for her on the death certificate lists it as Sept 28, 1879 in Carroll Co., GA Father listed as Jas. N. Turner born GA Mother's name: Not known Informant was Jas. M. Shores of Malden, MO Cause of death was post partum hemorrhage She is buried in Malden, MO Pat Zadrowski wrote: >I'm searching for family of a Gertrude Turner b.Feb. 28, 1879 in Dunklin County, MO., Gertrude md. James Monroe Shores ca 1899 and she died in 1916 in Dunklin County, and is buried in a cemetery in Malden, MO. > > I would like to obtain any info on Gertrude's parents, siblings or other relatives. > Thanks so much > Pat Shores Zadrowski > Houston, TX > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

I'm searching for family of a Gertrude Turner b.Feb. 28, 1879 in Dunklin County, MO., Gertrude md. James Monroe Shores ca 1899 and she died in 1916 in Dunklin County, and is buried in a cemetery in Malden, MO. I would like to obtain any info on Gertrude's parents, siblings or other relatives. Thanks so much Pat Shores Zadrowski Houston, TX

Finally! One I think I can help with. Belmont Co, OH, either 1820 or 1830 census there is a Samuel Turner on it. This county's census is BROKEN up into neighborhoods and not all censuses are listed every time when you think you have found them all. Say, for example, you might see 2 or 3 for that county and think that is all there are but trust me, there are several. What were they doing there? There was a government-funded project to take one of the major roads and build it through OH (and westward) and also they were working on a canal, The Erie Canal perhaps? Can't remember, thinking it was the Erie Canal. Anyway, it was a huge government project that produced many jobs and that is why so many people went to Belmont Co, OH and other areas nearby in the early 1800's. Hope this helps some, at least you know why they went there. Lisa Chatelain "Gail R. Blancett" <ablancett@atlantic.net> wrote: A new line has been added to the Turner DNA Project. Kit #68652. The haplogroup for this line is R1a. There were no matches to other lines tested at the present time. This is the lineage: John Turner b 4 Nov 1827 PA or MD d 9 Oct 1900 married Elizabeth Delong (married 20 June 1849 in Monroe Co., OH) John Francis Turner b 13 Jul 1853 Batesville, Noble Co. OH d 2 Jul 1912 m Catherine Butler Joseph Francis Turner b 15 Sept 1876 Belmont Co., OH d 26 Apr 1920 Somerset, Belmont Co. OH m Sarah Carpenter Raymond Earl Turner b 18 Mar 1898 Somerset, Belmont Co. OH d 27 Jan 1979 Washington, Washington Co., PA m Elizabeth Alice Tavernier Does anyone know for sure who the father of this oldest John Turner is? In 1850, he is living directly next door to a Richard Turner born about 1778 in MD with wife Annamary born PA: 1850 Census, Somerset Twp., Belmont Co., OH p. 406 #629 Richard Turner------62 M-------MD Annamary-----------66 F--------PA Anne----------------26 F--------MD #630 John Turner---------24 M-------MD Elizabeth------------16 F--------OH [It appears that the column "married within year" was marked.] Does anyone know if this John Turner was the son of Richard Turner that he was living next to? A grandson? The census varies on place of birth for John--sometimes listed as Maryland, sometimes as Pennsylvania. Where did this Richard Turner come from? Was he the same Richard Turner in 1840 in Belmont Co., OH? 1840 Census, Warren, Belmont Co. OH Richard Turner 1 M 10-15 1 M 60-70 [a bit older compared to 1850 than it should be] 1 F 40-50 Where was he in 1830? Could he have been the Richard Turner in Frederick Co., MD in 1830? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

A new line has been added to the Turner DNA Project. Kit #68652. The haplogroup for this line is R1a. There were no matches to other lines tested at the present time. This is the lineage: John Turner b 4 Nov 1827 PA or MD d 9 Oct 1900 married Elizabeth Delong (married 20 June 1849 in Monroe Co., OH) John Francis Turner b 13 Jul 1853 Batesville, Noble Co. OH d 2 Jul 1912 m Catherine Butler Joseph Francis Turner b 15 Sept 1876 Belmont Co., OH d 26 Apr 1920 Somerset, Belmont Co. OH m Sarah Carpenter Raymond Earl Turner b 18 Mar 1898 Somerset, Belmont Co. OH d 27 Jan 1979 Washington, Washington Co., PA m Elizabeth Alice Tavernier Does anyone know for sure who the father of this oldest John Turner is? In 1850, he is living directly next door to a Richard Turner born about 1778 in MD with wife Annamary born PA: 1850 Census, Somerset Twp., Belmont Co., OH p. 406 #629 Richard Turner------62 M-------MD Annamary-----------66 F--------PA Anne----------------26 F--------MD #630 John Turner---------24 M-------MD Elizabeth------------16 F--------OH [It appears that the column "married within year" was marked.] Does anyone know if this John Turner was the son of Richard Turner that he was living next to? A grandson? The census varies on place of birth for John--sometimes listed as Maryland, sometimes as Pennsylvania. Where did this Richard Turner come from? Was he the same Richard Turner in 1840 in Belmont Co., OH? 1840 Census, Warren, Belmont Co. OH Richard Turner 1 M 10-15 1 M 60-70 [a bit older compared to 1850 than it should be] 1 F 40-50 Where was he in 1830? Could he have been the Richard Turner in Frederick Co., MD in 1830?

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Yes, Mattie is a nickname for Martha. So is Patsy. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: eb_turner@hotmail.com To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [TURNER] TURNER, Mattie B. Is it possible that Mattie is an aka for Martha? Ernie.......Ontario........canada >From: "pwallred@frontiernet.net" <pwallred@frontiernet.net> >Reply-To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com >To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TURNER] TURNER, Mattie B. >Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:48:11 +0000 > >Can anyone link Mattie B. Turner into their reseach? > > >Mattie B. Turner. died Dec. 19, 1873 31 y 6 m Buried East Bethel >Cemetery, Bethel, Vt. > >Regards, >Paul Allred >pwallred@frontiernet.net > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Though not of this family at all, I can say that Mattie is a common nickname or dimuative for Martha. My grandmother's name was Martha and she was regularly called Mattie. Quoting Ernie Turner <eb_turner@hotmail.com>: > > Is it possible that Mattie is an aka for Martha? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent through Atlantic.Net Webmail. Sick of pop-up ads and climbing prices? Visit www.atlantic.net to get pure Internet for $19.95/mo.