I found this nice chart when I "googled" for nicknames on Rootsweb. There are many others as well. http://www.tngennet.org/franklin/frannick.htm Ron -----Original Message----- From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of yoricat@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:56 AM To: turner@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson Patricia was not used back in the 1700s and early 1800s. If you recall, George Washington in his letters to Martha, called her his darling Patsy. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: bartule1@alltel.net To: turner@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson I always thought "Patty" or "Patsy" was the nickname for Patricia.... ----- Original Message ----- From: <yoricat@aol.com> To: <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson > James Turner, Jr., left an inventory which named his wife "Patty". > Usually "Patty" or "Patsy" is a nickname for Martha not Jane. Patty is > listed in James' probate from Franklin Co., VA. > > > Jeanette > > > -----Original Message----- > From: genieb@cddn.com > To: turner@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson > > > That makes sense but it also brings up the question of maternity for some > of > James' children. The James that died ca 1802 in Franklin Co., VA has a > probate record and a copy should be arriving in my mailbox soon. > > You would know that my ancestor's DOB would fall in this questionable time > frame. Does anyone have any idea when Jane Anderson Turner died? OR, > when > the 2nd marriage took place? That would help determine which children > belonged to which wife. > > Brenda > > > Quoting pjdennis@mindspring.com: > >> Hello Brenda. >> This is NOT my research,or my TURNER line; but several researchers >> on ANCESTRY show >> His parents as: >> Rev, James TURNER Sr. 1705-1793 and Mary ADMIRE d/o George ADMIRE >> Probate of above does not list James Jr. among heirs. >> James TURNER II b ca 1745 married 2x. Jane ANDERSON & Martha >> (Patsy) PHELPS >> pjd >> 1/11/07 >> >> On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:11 PM, genieb@cddn.com wrote: >> > Who were the parents of the James Turner who married Jane Anderson in >> > Pittsylvania Co., VA on 27 Nov 1784? >> > Brenda Carroll >> > >> > --- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This may not be news to everyone but there is info out there to the contrary on the James Turner whose widow was Patty Turner. By 24 December 1789, this James Turner was deceased. Patty Turner with Ashford Napier, Thomas Hale, William Turner and Richard Melton as surety made bond as Administrix of James Turner's estate. 20+ pages of photocopied Franklin Co., VA court records indicate this to be true. I have not transcribed all of the pages but there are at least 5 minor children and the estate would not be completely settled until the youngest was of age [21 yrs. old]. On 2 July 1796, settlement was made with the following legatees: Kinzey Coats [h/o Joany Turner] for 27 pounds 5 shilling & 6-1/2 pence James Turner for 27 pounds 5 shillings 9 pence Thomas Overstreet [h/o Bathsheba] for 26 pounds 16 shillings 10 pence William & Jonas Turner for 54 pounds 11 shillings 1 pence William Creasy [h/o Patty or Polly?] for 27 pounds 5 shillings 6-1/2 pence Eliza/Elizabeth Hunt for 27 pounds 5 shillings 6-1/2 pence The remainder of the account was payment of accounts/bills except: Patty Turner rec'd 132 pounds 10 shillings 3 pence for her dower. The balance from the sale of the estate was 23 pounds 13 shillings 4 pence. This was from Will Book 1, pp. 114-115. >From Franklin Co., VA Marriage Bonds: Kinzey Coats married Joany Turner. The bond was dated 13 April 1789 and surety was James Turner. Although the online data did not give James' relationship to Joany, it is possible that this James was her father; however, James [s/o James who died bef 24 Dec 1789] was not a minor in January of 1790. Also...Jonas Turner was surety on the marriage bond of William Bates to Elizabeth Harris [d/o John Harris] on 7 Jan 1793. Since Jonas was a minor in Jan 1790, he must be of age by Jan 1793. In my way of thinking [which may or may not be correct], Jonas would have been born about 1771 or 1772. So...who was the mother of these older children? Was this James Turner married 3 times or are we mixing up the James Turners? William Hunt made bond as the guardian of Jonas Turner in January 1790. Thomas Hale along with Joshua Rentfro and Moses Greer as suretors made bond as guardian of Jesse, Polly/Patty [not sure which], Admire and Delilah, minor orphans of James Turner Dec'd, on 7 Feb 1791....Will Book 1, p. 49. I'm not so sure that the James Turner to Jane Anderson marriage fits this James. Can anyone help sort this out? Brenda Carroll

Patricia was not used back in the 1700s and early 1800s. If you recall, George Washington in his letters to Martha, called her his darling Patsy. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: bartule1@alltel.net To: turner@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson I always thought "Patty" or "Patsy" was the nickname for Patricia.... ----- Original Message ----- From: <yoricat@aol.com> To: <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson > James Turner, Jr., left an inventory which named his wife "Patty". > Usually "Patty" or "Patsy" is a nickname for Martha not Jane. Patty is > listed in James' probate from Franklin Co., VA. > > > Jeanette > > > -----Original Message----- > From: genieb@cddn.com > To: turner@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson > > > That makes sense but it also brings up the question of maternity for some > of > James' children. The James that died ca 1802 in Franklin Co., VA has a > probate record and a copy should be arriving in my mailbox soon. > > You would know that my ancestor's DOB would fall in this questionable time > frame. Does anyone have any idea when Jane Anderson Turner died? OR, > when > the 2nd marriage took place? That would help determine which children > belonged to which wife. > > Brenda > > > Quoting pjdennis@mindspring.com: > >> Hello Brenda. >> This is NOT my research,or my TURNER line; but several researchers >> on ANCESTRY show >> His parents as: >> Rev, James TURNER Sr. 1705-1793 and Mary ADMIRE d/o George ADMIRE >> Probate of above does not list James Jr. among heirs. >> James TURNER II b ca 1745 married 2x. Jane ANDERSON & Martha >> (Patsy) PHELPS >> pjd >> 1/11/07 >> >> On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:11 PM, genieb@cddn.com wrote: >> > Who were the parents of the James Turner who married Jane Anderson in >> > Pittsylvania Co., VA on 27 Nov 1784? >> > Brenda Carroll >> > >> > --- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Pickett" <tgenea@prodigy.net> JUDITH PICKETT Thanks for your reply on my question an what and how to put all of this research into a form that family and friends will read. Most people answering me recommended about the same thing. SO that is the rout I will take. Thanks to all of the people that answered. If I missed thanking any one it was by error. Donald

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Hello, Don ! I've been reading all the suggestions you have gotten & they are all good. I just want to emphasize that whatever you do, please please put in an index to the individuals. Without that, a book on a family is almost too much work to search. I seem to remember someone saying that Family Tree Maker 2006 has a "book" feature under "print reports" that will do the index almost automatically for you. And the book feature will put in your notes under each person they apply to plus the sources as footnotes. At our FHC we have a little machine that will put a "claw" binder on "book"s printed out by TreeMaker or Legacy or PAF. That is about as cheap as you gan get, I think. Have fun ! Spread it as far as you can -- libraries, county Historical or Genealogical Societies, all family members, the Family History Library in SLC, even contribute to the on-line RootsWeb USGenWeb county sites, as well as uploading to internet databases on RootsWeb or Ancestry. com or fammilysearch.org's Pedigree Resource File. Judy Pickett still "Lost in the Past" Donald Turner <dturner8@hot.rr.com> wrote: After I retired 14 years ago I started doing a little looking into the family history. That lead to my receiving a used computer from one of my daughters when she got a new one. That stopped the trips to the Library, which was twice a week. It lead to working on line every day. As I learned more I spent more and more time on the computer. All of that lead to a new larger computer which in turn resulted in more and more information. I am now on my third computer. Each with more memory than the last.Now my problem. What form have most people used to make this information available to other members of the family? Narrative-raw information etc.I do plain to put it in a book for the children and other members of the family. I guess I should also add that I use Family Tree Maker 2006. Donald ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I always thought "Patty" or "Patsy" was the nickname for Patricia.... ----- Original Message ----- From: <yoricat@aol.com> To: <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson > James Turner, Jr., left an inventory which named his wife "Patty". > Usually "Patty" or "Patsy" is a nickname for Martha not Jane. Patty is > listed in James' probate from Franklin Co., VA. > > > Jeanette > > > -----Original Message----- > From: genieb@cddn.com > To: turner@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson > > > That makes sense but it also brings up the question of maternity for some > of > James' children. The James that died ca 1802 in Franklin Co., VA has a > probate record and a copy should be arriving in my mailbox soon. > > You would know that my ancestor's DOB would fall in this questionable time > frame. Does anyone have any idea when Jane Anderson Turner died? OR, > when > the 2nd marriage took place? That would help determine which children > belonged to which wife. > > Brenda > > > Quoting pjdennis@mindspring.com: > >> Hello Brenda. >> This is NOT my research,or my TURNER line; but several researchers >> on ANCESTRY show >> His parents as: >> Rev, James TURNER Sr. 1705-1793 and Mary ADMIRE d/o George ADMIRE >> Probate of above does not list James Jr. among heirs. >> James TURNER II b ca 1745 married 2x. Jane ANDERSON & Martha >> (Patsy) PHELPS >> pjd >> 1/11/07 >> >> On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:11 PM, genieb@cddn.com wrote: >> > Who were the parents of the James Turner who married Jane Anderson in >> > Pittsylvania Co., VA on 27 Nov 1784? >> > Brenda Carroll >> > >> > --- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Shadrack, Meshack and Abednigo Turner I know William Turner who married Elizabeth Heard is not Shadrack Turner son So is William Turner the son of Meshack or Abednigo Turner William and Elizabeth Heard Turner died in Overton County, Tennessee Janet Ariciu

Donald, Try and start tracing some of the genealogies of the neighbors. I bet you'll find information there. For example, Samuel Turner, born 1812 SC is my brick wall. In Trinity Co, TX census of 1860 I started tracing the families of neighbors and found some of the neighbors were actually kin to and former neighbors of other Turners verified in the same DNA branch. That still did not provide verification of Sameul's father but did give a lot of interesting information. There were Duncans who were neighbors to other Turners earlier in another state who were in the same DNA branch. Shows they at least knew each other fairly well and were prior neighbors of possible cousins. It might work out better for you. I've found some of the families were prior neighbors of Samuel's wife's family also. Donald Turner <dturner8@hot.rr.com> wrote: Sarah Yes I have done the DNA test and out of all of the Turners that have had their DNA run I was the only one in My line. It took almost a year but I now have 2 matches. All three of us have traced our Turner back to Joseph Turner Sr. B abt. 1750 in VA. and died Nov.1800 in KY. I have been in contact with several other Turners that may be in my line and NOT A ONE can get past Joseph, Sr. A few others say they have but when I check into it their information is wrong. I paid a professional to check just Joseph Sr. And he could not find his Father. Right now I have him listed as being found in the Cabage patch with the easter bunny and Santa Clause. Donald Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Lingwall" To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information toyourfamily ? > Donald, I have done a combination book for my family. I use the reports I > made in Family Tree Maker 2006 (without that I'm not sure how I would get > an > index of individuals). Then I included several other sections with tabbed > dividers. One section was family photos (I use my color laser printer and > a > tough paper); another is of maps of what the states looked like plus state > maps showing where the counties are. Still another section is scanned > pages > from family bibles. A narrative is included as well but for someone to > find > a particular person, that index is invaluable. One of my daughters did a > strictly narrative one of her paternal ancestors and I can never find > anyone > for there is no index! > > Good luck and I know your family will love what your are doing. I assume > you have done the DNA test and know which line you connect with. > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- > From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Donald Turner > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:22 AM > To: turner@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to > yourfamily ? > > > > > After I retired 14 years ago I started doing a little looking into the > family history. That lead to my receiving a used computer from one of my > daughters when she got a new one. That stopped the trips to the Library, > which was twice a week. It lead to working on line every day. As I learned > more I spent more and more time on the computer. All of that lead to a new > larger computer which in turn resulted in more and more information. I > am > now on my third computer. Each with more memory than the last.Now my > problem. > > What form have most people used to make this information available to > other > members of the family? Narrative-raw information etc.I do plain to put > it > in a book for the children and other members of the family. I guess I > should > also add that I use Family Tree Maker 2006. > Donald > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 > 3:33 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 > 3:33 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 > 3:33 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.

I found William Turner m Sarah Caudle in 1814 in TN Anyone Have information on this line? Paul GOD BLESS

Phil, just noticed you have Maxwell in your line. My great grandmother Turner married a Maxwell. She was the daughter of Barney S Turner born 1836 GA and Louisa Smith born 1836 GA. Mary D Turner married Joseph B Maxwell born 1851 Meriwether Co, GA. His parents were George W Maxwell born 1832 GA who married Elizabeth Estes born abt. 1834 NC. Any connections? thanks, Mary

> Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:03:52 -0800 > From: "Jay & Carol Menges" <jhcjmenges@isp.com> > Subject: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to > your > To: <turner@rootsweb.com> > > Donald, > > Several good ideas to answer your question below have been given through > the > TURNER Mailing List. I'll add a couple more. SNIP > There is a great deal of argument about the efficacy of this approach. > I don't want to extend the argument further except to suggest it isn't a > good approach. Ohhhhh brother... Editing doesn't always turn out very well, does it? What I *meant* was, "it isn't a good approach" to *argue* against one style of genealogical research in favor of another, unless the person asked for that kind of advice. I really wasn't trying to contradict myself with my goofy statement... Well, that's what I get for being in a hurry. (big, heavy sigh...) > --Carol (Huffington > Turner) Menges

I am curious to know who the mentioned Jane Anderson's parents were. Was she a descendant of Elijah Anderson of Rappahannock - Culpeper Counties, Virginia. Elijah, who was born ca. 1756 in New Jersey, migrated to Virginia to join the Revolutonary war. The name "Jane" was one of the Anderson family's favourite names. Jean JeanBout@juno.com Washington, D.C. "Who were the parents of the James Turner who married Jane Anderson..." -- turner-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. James Turner mar. Jane Anderson (genieb@cddn.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:11:49 -0600 (CST) From: genieb@cddn.com Subject: [TURNER] James Turner mar. Jane Anderson To: turner@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1168488709.45a5b905336f1@webmail.ecsis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Who were the parents of the James Turner who married Jane Anderson in Pittsylvania Co., VA on 27 Nov 1784? There are so many James Turners that my head is spinning. Brenda Carroll ------------------------------ To contact the TURNER list administrator, send an email to TURNER-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TURNER mailing list, send an email to TURNER@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of TURNER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 ************************************

Hi Sarah, You are correct that a long narrative report might be frustrating without an index as to where to find each person. Just a thought -- You might want to try another genealogy program that creates indexes as mine does. If you want to take a look as to the types of reports available for the program I use, there is a free trial version at www.rootsmagic.com While one may not want to change programs long term, people sometimes use a couple different programs when they need certain types of reports. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Lingwall" <fox10@tampabay.rr.com> To: <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information toyourfamily ? > Donald, I have done a combination book for my family. I use the reports I > made in Family Tree Maker 2006 (without that I'm not sure how I would get > an > index of individuals). Then I included several other sections with tabbed > dividers. One section was family photos (I use my color laser printer and > a > tough paper); another is of maps of what the states looked like plus state > maps showing where the counties are. Still another section is scanned > pages > from family bibles. A narrative is included as well but for someone to > find > a particular person, that index is invaluable. One of my daughters did a > strictly narrative one of her paternal ancestors and I can never find > anyone > for there is no index! > > Good luck and I know your family will love what your are doing. I assume > you have done the DNA test and know which line you connect with. > Sarah

I have been reading your emails with a good deal of interest. Please do not ever say "his/her genealogy is wrong".......please say 'his/her genealogy has not been documented, therefore questions about it's origin exist.' Just because ONE professional researcher could not document what he/she/or you found does not mean the facts and the documentation do not exist. I am a certified researcher (professional if you will) and if I am only hired for 1 to 4 hours to do research in 1700 I am not likely to find 'just what you want.' I might find it on the internet just as anyone else could (which is not why I was hired) but to travel to a courthouse and/or other repository of records to see the actual record in question may take a lot more than 1 to 4 hours. It takes time, a lot of time to go through all those old records, read the handwriting and sort out the pieces to the puzzle. Unfortunately most folks who hire us want a gold nugget for their family tree when they have offered us only a pittance to obtain it. I can assure you professionals vary in ability as well as resources. We don't perform magic! It is long, slow and tedious but since we know where to look and since we enjoy the search we may well have more success in a shorter period of time than the novice, though even that is questionable sometimes. Just a thought...... Ila

Donald, I have done a combination book for my family. I use the reports I made in Family Tree Maker 2006 (without that I'm not sure how I would get an index of individuals). Then I included several other sections with tabbed dividers. One section was family photos (I use my color laser printer and a tough paper); another is of maps of what the states looked like plus state maps showing where the counties are. Still another section is scanned pages from family bibles. A narrative is included as well but for someone to find a particular person, that index is invaluable. One of my daughters did a strictly narrative one of her paternal ancestors and I can never find anyone for there is no index! Good luck and I know your family will love what your are doing. I assume you have done the DNA test and know which line you connect with. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donald Turner Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:22 AM To: turner@rootsweb.com Subject: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to yourfamily ? After I retired 14 years ago I started doing a little looking into the family history. That lead to my receiving a used computer from one of my daughters when she got a new one. That stopped the trips to the Library, which was twice a week. It lead to working on line every day. As I learned more I spent more and more time on the computer. All of that lead to a new larger computer which in turn resulted in more and more information. I am now on my third computer. Each with more memory than the last.Now my problem. What form have most people used to make this information available to other members of the family? Narrative-raw information etc.I do plain to put it in a book for the children and other members of the family. I guess I should also add that I use Family Tree Maker 2006. Donald ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM

Sarah Yes I have done the DNA test and out of all of the Turners that have had their DNA run I was the only one in My line. It took almost a year but I now have 2 matches. All three of us have traced our Turner back to Joseph Turner Sr. B abt. 1750 in VA. and died Nov.1800 in KY. I have been in contact with several other Turners that may be in my line and NOT A ONE can get past Joseph, Sr. A few others say they have but when I check into it their information is wrong. I paid a professional to check just Joseph Sr. And he could not find his Father. Right now I have him listed as being found in the Cabage patch with the easter bunny and Santa Clause. Donald Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Lingwall" <fox10@tampabay.rr.com> To: <turner@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information toyourfamily ? > Donald, I have done a combination book for my family. I use the reports I > made in Family Tree Maker 2006 (without that I'm not sure how I would get > an > index of individuals). Then I included several other sections with tabbed > dividers. One section was family photos (I use my color laser printer and > a > tough paper); another is of maps of what the states looked like plus state > maps showing where the counties are. Still another section is scanned > pages > from family bibles. A narrative is included as well but for someone to > find > a particular person, that index is invaluable. One of my daughters did a > strictly narrative one of her paternal ancestors and I can never find > anyone > for there is no index! > > Good luck and I know your family will love what your are doing. I assume > you have done the DNA test and know which line you connect with. > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- > From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Donald Turner > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:22 AM > To: turner@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to > yourfamily ? > > > > > After I retired 14 years ago I started doing a little looking into the > family history. That lead to my receiving a used computer from one of my > daughters when she got a new one. That stopped the trips to the Library, > which was twice a week. It lead to working on line every day. As I learned > more I spent more and more time on the computer. All of that lead to a new > larger computer which in turn resulted in more and more information. I > am > now on my third computer. Each with more memory than the last.Now my > problem. > > What form have most people used to make this information available to > other > members of the family? Narrative-raw information etc.I do plain to put > it > in a book for the children and other members of the family. I guess I > should > also add that I use Family Tree Maker 2006. > Donald > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 > 3:33 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 > 3:33 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 > 3:33 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Donald, I have used some of the methods already reported in this thread. I have a couple of suggestions too. First, if you publish in print form, send two copies to the Library of Congress (LoC) in Washington, DC. If you wish to copyright your genealogy, that must be done through the Copyright Office of LoC. They have an extensive collection of genealogies. If you ever go to Washington, be sure to visit the Local History and Genealogy reading room. In 2005, I put together a history of my mother's family, (Westfall-Maxwell). I used a lot of the photographs that she had collected over the years and it added up to about 100 pages. Instead of printing it, I copied the file and photographs to CD-Rs and sent it to my cousins by mail for Christmas. It made a big hit with them. Publishing on a CD-R is cheaper and easier than publishing a book. CD-Rs cost less than a quarter apiece and the cost of mailing them first class is much less than sending a book through the mail. A single CD-R holds up to 2,000 pages of text and there aren't many genealogies that long. I used the PDF format for the genealogy so that each recipient can either view it on a computer monitor or take it to Kinko's and have it printed. Since it is in a machine-readable format, my relatives can add to the family history too. I use The Master Genealogist for genealogical information and I use Adobe Photoshop Elements to edit and enhance photographs and to create the PDF document. Phil Turner > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:21:32 -0600 > From: "Donald Turner" > Subject: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to > your family ? > To: SNIP> > What form have most people used to make this information available to > other members of the family? Narrative-raw information etc.I do plain to > put it in a book for the children and other members of the family. I guess > I should also add that I use Family Tree Maker 2006. > Donald ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Russell, If you are a direct male Turner descendant of Archibald Abraham Turner, would you consider joining in the Turner DNA Project to document his DNA signature. It might help the others who appear to be from that same large group of Turners in the area begin to see where the branches are splitting off. We have quite a large group of folks who are from the big group but it still isn't sure exactly how they are all fitting together. Just so many with that common name of James. If you haven't checked it out, go to the Turner DNA Project website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~turnerdna/ Click on the word Results on the left of the screen. Look for a blue group near the bottom of the chart. Brenda's line is the first kit in the group beginning with Kit #31982 and the oldest ancestor listed as Admire b c1780 VA. We have recently gotten back what is called the last panel of markers on his results (markers 26-37) and he is showing the same characteristic mutations. I sent them to my webmaster to post with the last chart update but he missed putting them on. But, he is showing the same characteristic mutations in that last panel as the major kits we have that seem to be documented to the James married Mary Admire lines. He has a few other mutations that may be what I call "personal mutations" that have happened in generations more recently. But, it appears that we are beginning to be able to identify perhaps what might be called "tip splits" which eventually, with enough people testing, will help determine exactly which of the men these lines are branching off from. Since it is impossible to know exactly when the specific mutations took place, the more people testing from the same general group helps us begin to come up with what is the "modal haplotype" of the ancestor. I know this begins to sound like Greek and I am learning too so don't get put off. I would encourage you to consider joining us. You would need to do the Y-DNA37 marker test for it to really help. Let me know if you want more information. Otherwise, there is a "JOIN" link on the website also where you can order the kit. Gail R. Blancett Administrator Turner DNA Project Russell Turner wrote: >While we are talking about Franklin County Virginia.... >Does anyone have any information about: > >Archibald Abraham Turner who married Mary Creasy >He was born in 1806, she was born in 1804 > >I do not know his parents or siblings. > > > > >

I intended to also mention a really nice feature - FTM allows you to create a PDF file of your book. This certainly makes it easy to send your book out to other individuals in electronic format. They then have the option of simply reading it in electronic form or they can print a hardcopy version to put into a notebook. Ron Turner ----- Original Message ---- From: Ron Turner <turner.rj0815@flash.net> To: turner@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:29:43 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to yourfamily ? You can use the BOOK feature in Family Tree Maker to automatically do what you are doing manually. You can specify what reports you want included and it will also create an index for you. Locate the individual you want as the primary person for your "book". Then, click on BOOKS in the menu. Name your book. You should then have a list of available items you can include in the book. Those include: Notes Ancestor Tree Ancestor Fan Tree Vertical Ancestor Tree Descendant Tree Descendant Fan Tree Hourglass Tree Hourglass Fan Tree Kinship Report Outline Descendant Tree Family Group Sheet Genealogy Report Map Timeline Table of Contents Index of Individuals Calendar Custom Reports You can also add photos to blank pages. You can add Introduction, Preface, Foreword, Dedication or Copyright Notice pages. If you need more direction, click on HELP on the Menu bar. Click Search and type in BOOK and click List Topics. Select a topic from the list and click Display. I hope this helps. Ron Turner ----- Original Message ---- From: Sarah Lingwall <fox10@tampabay.rr.com> To: turner@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:31:29 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to yourfamily ? Donald, I have done a combination book for my family. I use the reports I made in Family Tree Maker 2006 (without that I'm not sure how I would get an index of individuals). Then I included several other sections with tabbed dividers. One section was family photos (I use my color laser printer and a tough paper); another is of maps of what the states looked like plus state maps showing where the counties are. Still another section is scanned pages from family bibles. A narrative is included as well but for someone to find a particular person, that index is invaluable. One of my daughters did a strictly narrative one of her paternal ancestors and I can never find anyone for there is no index! Good luck and I know your family will love what your are doing. I assume you have done the DNA test and know which line you connect with. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: turner-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:turner-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donald Turner Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:22 AM To: turner@rootsweb.com Subject: [TURNER] Fw: How do you give all of your the information to yourfamily ? After I retired 14 years ago I started doing a little looking into the family history. That lead to my receiving a used computer from one of my daughters when she got a new one. That stopped the trips to the Library, which was twice a week. It lead to working on line every day. As I learned more I spent more and more time on the computer. All of that lead to a new larger computer which in turn resulted in more and more information. I am now on my third computer. Each with more memory than the last.Now my problem. What form have most people used to make this information available to other members of the family? Narrative-raw information etc.I do plain to put it in a book for the children and other members of the family. I guess I should also add that I use Family Tree Maker 2006. Donald ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TURNER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message