Listers, I'm seeking to find the parents of Victor Turner b 1875 d 1917 m Lula Mae Dooley. Victor's parents were Turner and Cooley and Lula's were W.H. Dooley and Anderson. Their first son Paul Wm Turner, Sr was born 1900 in Stoutsville, Mo. Does any one have any of these surname families in this area at this time period. I'de sure love to get beyond this wall. Carolyn at pwmt@potc.net

Hello Philip and all on the list: I will briefly quote Leyburns' classic "The Scotch Irish" about James Patton. "An enterprising agent, James Patton served both Beverley and Borden in their effort to attract colonists. A native of Ireland and "bred at sea" Patton served in the royal Navy. He later became owner of a ship of his own, carrying on trade between Britian and the Rappahannock River. He is said to have crossed the Atlantic 25 times, carrying abroad cargoes of peltries and tobacco, and returning WITH ULSTERMAN." Many Scots-Irish who came with James Patton settled in Virginia. There were some Scots-Irish Turners who settled in North Carolina and gave the land for UNC. I believe this family may have come with the Pattons. Regards, Vesta

Nancy, Just one more thought about Pauline Fake's book. I have studied several books on the history of the Eastern Shore. Recently, I came across the following one, which seems to be well done: Torrence, Clayton, 1884-1953. Old Somerset on the eastern shore of Maryland; a study in foundations and founders. With a foreword by J. Millard Tawes. Baltimore, Regional Pub. Co., 1966. xvi, 583 p. 24 cm. First published in 1935. All have one thing in common: there is no mention of William Turner, Presbyterian minister. Clayton Torrece's book devotes 61 pages to the "Children of the Covenant." He mentions the following ministers: Francis Makemie, William Traile, Samuel Davis, Thomas Wilson, John Hampton, George McNish, William Stewart, Patrick Glasgow, John Clement(s), Henry Hunter, Hugh Stevenson, Charles Tennent and John Rogers. I think that William Turner was probably NOT a minister. He might have been a member of the flock or even an elder, but that was all. Phil Turner

Nancy, Thanks for setting the record straight. I agree with you that you simply cannot take information from secondary sources "on faith." If at all possible, you have to go to the primary sources to confirm what was said. Having said that, primary sources are often missing due to fire, flood or war. Many of our ancestors were so thoughtless as to leave very little in the way of a written record of their lives. For these reasons, oral history and family tradition are often the only sources available. I was aware that Pauline Fake's book had some factual errors, but I did not know their extent. I am retiring in about a month. Then I am going to drive to the Eastern Shore and check the libraries and court houses for information on those elusive Turners. I'll post a report on what I find when I get back. Hope you can wait until then. Phil Turner

Copies to: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com MOCOOPER-L@rootsweb.com MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com Hi Do any of you know anything about the below marriage in Missouri especially Catherine TURNER? In 1820 Cooper Co. MO was formed from part of Howard Co. MO. Catherine TURNER & Isaac CLARK marriage in 5 November 1818 in Howard County Marriage Book 1, page 9 Possible, TURNER/TURLEY family of Catherine TURNER. Howard County, Missouri – 1817 Taxpayers List: TURLEY, Samuel and Stephen TURNER, Edward, Enoch, James, John, Levi and Phillip Smith Thanks for your time. I will keep my fingers crossed. Sincerely Linda

Phillip, I have the book you just spoke of entitled "Traditional Ancestors of James Turner (1758-1828)" and am a member of a portion of that Turner family group and am sorry to say it has HUGE problems. The first, but not only one, is the fact that James Turner b 1758 d 1828 Morgan Co. Ga, whose children are listed in his will and in the book has NOT been proven to be a descendant of the William Turner family of Snow Hill Maryland who was the minister of the Scottish Sect. It gets worse from there, but I just wanted you to know that. I have spent soooooo much time on this and since Mrs. Fake died in 1978, and placed some copies in a few libraries, there is no way to "make it go away." If you have any interest in those particular lines, there are those of us working on both parts, the real descendants of the William of MD group and those of us who are related to James Turner b 1758. I posted the first part of the book to this list a couple of years ago and it is in the Turner-L archives at rootsweb. The posting is reproduced below: ============================================================ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:14:54 -0500 From: Nancy<bilgro@felix.teclink.net > To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199707171714.MAA23041@felix.teclink.net> Subject: Turner,William b 1645 Sct.>MD 1680>desc.GA 1733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Turner, William b 1645 Sct.>MD 1680>descendants>GA 1733 This information was sent to me by an early researcher: >In the files of the Genelolgical Society of Pennsylvania there is supposed to be the following: > >William Turner, a minister of the Kirk of Scotland was born in Aberdienshire >Scotland in 1645. He married Mary McLemore, born in the same shire in 1650, >married in 1670. On account of the persecution of the cobvenanters he fled >with his young bride and settled in the North of Ireland. Persecution >followed him and his co. believers there, and with quite a colony he came to >Maryland in 1680 and settled in Worchester County in 1680, not far from Snow >Hill the present county Seat. There were born to this couple: >1. William 1671--2. Elisha 1672--3. Mary-- 4. Ebenezer 1675-- 5. John-- 1677 >6. Gertrude-- 7. Thomas. > >Elisha Turner born 1672 married Elizabeth Hicks, born 1675, their childrem: > >1.Elisha 1697-- 2. Mary 1699-- 3. William 1701-- 4. Elizabeth 1703--5. Henry >1704-- 6. Phillip 1706-- 7. Ebenezer 1707-- 8. John 1709. >Elisha Turner born 1697 married Mary Carroll born 1700; To them were born: > >1. Thomas 1720--2. Ebeneezer 1722-- 3. Elizabeth 1724 4. Henrrietta >1726--5. John 1727-- 6. Zadoc 1729 7. Daniel 1731 8. William 1733. > >I have that Zadoc b 1729 m Sabra Hicks b 1731 They moved to Ga 1791 or 1793 >Zadoc Turner died intestate in 1819 in Hancock Co., GA. He had a daughter >Rhoda and son Hezikiah who married a Giles, They had a son Miles Giles Turner. >Remark by Mrs Roher placed here: >Records in Putmam Co. GA seem to show Rhoda and Hezakiah descendents of >Joseph Turner and wife Rhoda Hines. >====================================== >Additionally I was sent the following: >McCall's Roster of Rev. Soldiers of GA by Mrs.Howard McCall > >p. 170 Zadoc Turner: Zadoc Turner came with his family and household goods >on a sailing vessel form Chesapeake Bay; after a stormy passing the vessel >was driven to the West Indian Islands, and finally landed at Savannah Ga. >One of the daughters died at sea and is buried in the Colonial Cemetery at >Savannah. From Savannah River to Augusta, GA whence they crossed GA on >horseback and in wagons and finally settled Hancock Co. east of the Ocnee >River, just after the indians had removed a little farther west. He was in >the Battles of Brandywine, Trenton, and Vally Forge. >Zadoc Turner was born Worchester Co. MD in 1729. He died in Hancock Co. GA. >1820. He served as private, 2nd Regiment Maryland Melitia. He came to GA >in 1793 and settled mear Mount Zion in Hancock County. > >He married in Maryland, Sabra Hicks.2nd married Elizabeth unknown.(possibly Magby) > >His children are: >1. Henry Turner >2. Joshua Turner married Penelope Turner >3. Zadoc Turner, Jr. >4. dau. _____Turner buried Savannah Cem. >5. Phillip Turner, youngest son of Zadoc Turner married in MD 1786, Judith >Parker (dau. of George and Sarah Parker) Phillip Turner was Rev. Soldier of >MD. Zadoc died at his son Phillip Turner's home in Hancock. Co. >Zadoc may have had other children by Elizabeth: Elisha E. Turner b Oct. 1, 1788. who removed to TX may be his child. I leave it up to each of you to confirm this data. Nancy Turner Grogan bilgro@teclink.net researching Southern family lines of: Turner- Toler-Bennett-Hutchins-Bullard-Finlayson Grogan- Bigbee/Bigby-Dillon-Wixon-Crossfield-Byassee -------------

Vesta, Who was James Patton? Also, have you seen the following book? It tells about a family of Scottish Turners who settled in Snow Hill, MD. The author traces their descendants in Georgia and other southern states, but these could be our ancestors too. Traditional ancestors of James Turner / compiled by Pauline Turner Fake. -- San Antonio, Tex. : Fake, c1978. viii, 74 leaves : ill. ; 28 cm. Cover title: James Turner (1758-1826) and his many descendants through 1978. Includes index. Phil Turner >>> Doug Dorman <dddmusic@greenville.infi.net> 03/29 10:06 PM >>> Hello Phillip, Our dates and names don't match up directly, but they may connect prior to 1750. I will keep you and the list informed of any worthwhile info I find. I believe that James Patton's boat docked in Accomack County (correct me if I'm wrong). So many Ulster Irish came thru Accomack...maybe most of my family tree! I think the typical pattern of migration was that the 3rd and 4th generations went to Ky, Ohio, & Ind. Regards, Vesta

Hello Phillip, Our dates and names don't match up directly, but they may connect prior to 1750. I will keep you and the list informed of any worthwhile info I find. I believe that James Patton's boat docked in Accomack County (correct me if I'm wrong). So many Ulster Irish came thru Accomack...maybe most of my family tree! I think the typical pattern of migration was that the 3rd and 4th generations went to Ky, Ohio, & Ind. Regards, Vesta

Hi Patricia(?) Sorry, but I don't have any answers, just an observation. I am an EDMUNDS / TURNER descendant. I see that you have a Thomas Edmonds, born 1691, who married an Ann Turner. My earliest identified EDMUNDS ancestor is a William Edmunds, born c1685 (possibly earlier), who died in Surry Co, Virginia 1739/40. He may be the son of an earlier William Edmunds who died in Charles City Co, VA. This earlier William likely would have been a contemporary of your Thomas, b. 1655. Also, my William appears to have a close relative and contemporary named Howell Edmunds. Descendants of both William and Howell Edmunds had ties to Turner families in VA. "Thomas" was a very popular name among the descendants of Howell Edmunds. Other allied families in VA include GERRARD (Jarrett), HAMLIN, WYCHE, JONES, and possibly LANIER. Do you have any siblings for your Thomas, b. 1655? Lee Turner "Connie Lovitt Bates" <connie@compage.net> on 03/27/99 12:34:18 PM Please respond to EDMONDS-L@rootsweb.com To: EDMONDS-L@rootsweb.com cc: (bcc: Lee Turner/CORPCTR/VANCPOWER) Subject: [EDMONDS-L] Fw: 1655-1900 Warwickshire :From: Patricia harrison <patricia@dlcwest.com> :To: EDMONDS-L@rootsweb.com <EDMONDS-L@rootsweb.com> :Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 12:16 PM :Subject: 1655-1900 Warwickshire : : :: 1-- Thomas EDMONDS-46 (<1655> - ) :: sp-Sarah BARTON-47 ( - ) :: 2-- Samuel EDMONDS-2913 (1689- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: sp-Mary PRICE-2915 ( - ) :: 3-- Samuel EDMONDS-2916 (1716- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: sp-Mary-2920 ( - ) :: 4-- William EDMONDS-2921 (1742- ) :: 4-- Ursala EDMONDS-2922 (1747- ) :: 4-- Samuel EDMONDS-2923 (1752- ) :: 4-- George EDMONDS-2924 (1755- ) :: 3-- William EDMONDS-2917 (1720- ) Holy ::Trinity,Coventry,Warwick :: 3-- Joseph EDMONDS-2918 (1721- ) Holy ::Trinity,Coventry,Warwick :: 3-- Thomas EDMONDS-2919 (1727- ) Holy ::Trinity,Coventry,Warwick :: 2-- John EDMONDS-2878 (1690- ) :: 2-- Thomas EDMONDS-2879 (1691- ) Wyken,Warwick,England ( ::Coventry) :: sp-Ann TURNER-2895 ( - ) :: 2-- Joseph EDMONDS-2880 (1693- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: 2-- John EDMONDS-2881 (1695- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: sp-Mary SQUIRES-2892 ( - ) :: 3-- Joseph EDMONDS-2897 (1723- ) St ::Marys,Warwick,Warwick :: 3-- Thomas EDMONDS-2898 (1725- ) :: 3-- John EDMONDS-2899 (1726- ) :: 3-- Thomas EDMONDS-2900 (1727- ) :: 2-- Joseph EDMONDS-2882 (1696- ) Holy ::Trinity,Coventry,Warwick :: sp-Sarah BAGETT-2893 ( - ) :: 2-- Edward EDMONDS-2883 (1699- ) Holy ::Trinity,Coventry,Warwick :: sp-Mary GREANGER-2894 ( - ) :: 2-- Henry EDMONDS-2884 (1701- ) Holy ::Trinity,Coventry,Warwick :: sp-Ann-2901 ( - ) :: 3-- John EDMONDS-2902 (1719- ) Lowestoft,Suffolk :: 3-- Martin EDMONDS-2903 (1723- ) Gulval :: 3-- Henry EDMONDS-2904 (1725- ) Gulval :: 3-- William EDMONDS-2905 (1735- ) llanhilleth :: 3-- Henry EDMONDS-2906 (1736- ) Gulval :: 2-- Sarah EDMONDS-2885 (1705- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: 2-- Benjamin EDMONDS-2914 (1708- ) Holy ::Trinity,Coventry,Warwick :: 2-- William EDMONDS-2886 (1712- ) Curdworth,Warwick :: 2-- Sarah EDMONDS-2887 (1715- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: sp-William WRIGHT-2896 ( - ) :: 2-- Mary EDMONDS-2888 (1716- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: 2-- Thomas EDMONDS-44 (1718- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: sp-Ann GRIFFIN-45 ( - ) :: 3-- Thomas EDMONDS-42 (1749- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Mary HILL-43 ( - ) :: 4-- Thomas EDMONDS-994 (1775- ) :: sp-Jane BARNES-998 ( - ) :: 4-- Samuel EDMONDS-344 (1777- ) :: sp-Mary GREEN-893 ( - ) :: 4-- Joseph EDMONDS-17 (1779- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: sp-Charlotte HARRISON-18 (1780- ) :: 5-- Amos EDMONDS-201 (1803- ) :: sp-Hester ORTON-1000 ( - ) :: 5-- Ebenezer EDMONDS-202 (1805- ) ::Edgbaston,Warwick,England :: 5-- Elizabeth Bullivant EDMONDS-204 (1806- ) ::Edgbaston,Warwick,England :: 5-- Mary Ann EDMONDS-205 (1808- ) Aston ::Juxta,Birmingham,England :: sp-Thomas WHILDE-1002 ( - ) :: 5-- Charlotte EDMONDS-206 (1810- ) Aston ::Juxta,Birmingham,England :: sp-Thomas MILLINER-895 ( - ) :: 5-- Hephzibah EDMONDS-207 (1804- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Abraham JONES-212 ( - ) :: 5-- Rhoda EDMONDS-208 (1814- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick :: 5-- Mary EDMONDS-209 (1816- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick :: 5-- Joseph EDMONDS-210 (1819- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick :: 5-- Matthew Henry EDMONDS-13 (1822-1868) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick, :: sp-Elizabeth REAY-14 (1826-1904) St ::Bees,Cumberland,England :: 6-- Charlotte EDMONDS-19 (1857- ) ::Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: sp-Jonathon WIGGINS-25 (1846- ) :: 7-- Mary Margaret WIGGINS-145 (1880-1958) :: Durham,Ont :: sp-Gunson EDMONDS-23 (1869-1927) ::Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: 6-- Henry Matthew EDMONDS-20 (1859-1898) ::Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: sp-Charlotte VEYSON-198 (1861-1941) :: 7-- Elizabeth Alberta EDMONDS-199 ::(1883-1928) Ontario :: sp-John BARTMAN-200 (1877-1928) :: 7-- Mary Emily EDMONDS-258 (1885-1974) ::Bentinck Twp,Grey County,Ont. :: sp-James BOGLE-308 (1884-1934) :: 7-- William Edgar EDMONDS-259 (1888-1976) :: Bentinck Twp,Grey County,Ont. :: sp-Bessie MCKAY-297 (1895-1980) :: 7-- Sarah Lovina EDMONDS-260 (1890- ) ::Bentinck Twp,Grey County,Ont. :: sp-John ADAMS-290 ( - ) :: 7-- Emily Edna EDMONDS-261 (1893-1974) ::elm Park,Grey County,Ont. Canada :: sp-Charles SCOTT-280 (1878-1954) :: 7-- Lottie Mae EDMONDS-262 (1892-1964) ::Bentinck Twp,Grey County,Ont. :: sp-William POINTON-289 ( - ) :: 7-- Henry Wesley EDMONDS [Wes]-263 (1896- :: ) Bentinck Twp,Grey :: sp-Muriel WILSON-269 ( - ) :: 7-- Ruby Mae EDMONDS-264 (1898-1975) ::Bentinck Twp,Grey County,Ont. :: sp-Elmer H ADAMS-265 (1892- ) ::Cannon,Delaware USA :: 7-- Vera EDMONDS-4131 ( - ) :: sp-ADAM-4132 ( - ) :: 6-- Elizabeth EDMONDS [Lizzie]-21 60- ) :: Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: sp-John NADAGAR-214 ( - ) :: 7-- Arthur NADIGAR-4128 ( - ) :: 7-- Ernie NADIGAR-4129 ( - ) :: 7-- Lily NADIGAR-4130 ( - ) :: 6-- Christopher EDMONDS-11 (1862-1938) Allen ::Park,Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: sp-Caroline ALEXANDER-139 (1865?-1890?) :: sp-Eliza Mae JOHNSON-12 (1863-1949) :: 7-- Henry Ernest EDMONDS-2 (1900-1958) ::Maryfield,Sask. Canada :: sp-Bertha MCADOO-3 (1902-1978) ::Maryfield,Sask. :: 7-- Lillian Mae EDMONDS-15 (1896-1998) :: sp-Ernest HOLLAND-225 (1893-1966) ::Qu'Appelle :: sp-Reg TOONE-4162 ( - ) :: 7-- Cora Ann EDMONDS-16 (1902-1974) :: sp-Harvey BRADY-226 (1904-1988) ::Carlyle,Sask. :: 6-- Joseph EDMONDS-22 (1865-1937) ::Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: sp-Adeline REAY-213 (1872- ) :: 6-- Gunson EDMONDS-23 (1869-1927) ::Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: sp-Mary Margaret WIGGINS-145 (1880-1958) ::Durham,Ont :: 7-- Gunson Reay EDMONDS [Raey]-146 ::(1908-1927) :: 7-- Edna EDMONDS-147 ( - ) :: sp-George DYCE-224 ( - ) :: 7-- LLoyd EDMONDS-148 (1900-1961) ::Lippentott,Man :: sp-Lily NARBOROUGH-211 ( - ) :: 7-- Edith Olive EDMONDS [Olive]-219 ::(1906-1952) :: sp-John Henry MILLER-223 ( - ) :: 7-- Elsie EDMONDS-220 (1914- ) :: sp-Lawrence HAMILTON-221 ( - ) :: sp-Steve SKIEBAR-222 ( - ) :: 7-- Elizabeth EDMONDS [Lizzie]-3805 : ::- ) :: 6-- Amos EDMONDS-24 (1867-1917) ::Bentinck,Grey,Ont. :: 5-- Frederick EDMONDS-901 (1805- ) ::Edgbaston,Warwick,England :: sp-Charlotte HOBLEY-1001 ( - ) :: 4-- Amos EDMONDS-345 (1781- ) :: 4-- John EDMONDS-891 ( - ) :: sp-Rebecca PINEKEY-894 ( - ) :: 4-- Mary EDMONDS-996 (1797- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: 3-- Henry EDMONDS-2948 ( - ) :: sp-Ann COOKNELL-2959 ( - ) :: 3-- Catherine EDMONDS-2949 (1747- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: 3-- Benjamin EDMONDS-2950 (1752- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: 3-- Mary EDMONDS-2930 (1754- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-John BRYLEY-2931 ( - ) :: 3-- Robert EDMONDS-2952 (1756- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Mary OLDNER-2966 ( - ) :: sp-Mary WARRIN-2967 ( - ) :: 3-- Sarah EDMONDS-2953 (1758- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-John SHEPARD-2965 ( - ) :: 3-- John EDMONDS-2954 (1760- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Ann PRICE-2964 ( - ) :: 3-- Joseph EDMONDS-2955 (1762- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Anne GREEN-2963 ( - ) :: 3-- Annie EDMONDS-2956 (1766- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Samuel SUMMERS-2962 ( - ) :: 3-- Samuel EDMONDS-2957 (1766- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Mary FOSTER-2960 ( - ) :: 3-- Mary EDMONDS-2958 (1769- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-John LANE-2961 ( - ) :: 2-- Robert EDMONDS-2889 (1720- ) St ::Michaels,Coventry,Warwick,England :: sp-Elizabeth AVERY-2891 ( - ) :: 2-- Amos EDMONDS-2890 (1722- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: sp-Elizabeth CLARK-2907 ( - ) :: 3-- Joseph EDMONDS-2908 (1743- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: 3-- Mary EDMONDS-2909 (1745- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: 3-- Samuel EDMONDS-2910 (1747- ) St ::Martins,Birmingham,Warwick,England :: 3-- Edward EDMONDS-2911 (1749- ) ::Edgbaston,Warwick,England :: 3-- John EDMONDS-2912 (1752- ) ::Edgbaston,Warwick,England :: ::Can anyone help me with this, additions or corrections. ::patricia@dlcwest.com :: :: :: :

Looking for information on Mary Ellen Turner and her husband John M. Brewer. They died in 1934 Dry Ridge, Grant Co. Ky. A murder/suicide. Any info will be appreciated, thanks, Teresa Turner Carter

****Original Message**** >>> Doug Dorman <dddmusic@greenville.infi.net> 03/27 12:27 AM >>> Hello Turner Cousins, Does anyone have information about the Turners of Accomack County Virginia in the 1700s? I would like to find out more about this individual, who came from Virginia to Scioto County. TURNER, John R., born 25 June 1787, near Norfolk, Northampton County, Virginia, son of George Turner and Lorain Russell; to Scioto County 1808; died 15 October 1858, age 71 years, 3 months; bur Greenlawn Cem, Portsmouth; first wife Vienna P. Scarboro/Scarborough/Scarburgh, second wife Susan Chenoweth. EVAN:845-848; GR:26; LWS:284; NEWS:7:7 [Common Pleas Court Journal 3, p. 234] Thanks, Vesta Elliott researching Turner, Elliott, Lee, Townsend, Whisman, Patton, Mead, Leightly, Weghorst ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== To subscribe to Larry Stephens' Regional lists, covering all parts of the USA, go to http://php.indiana.edu/~stephenl/genealog.htm =========================================== Hi Vesta, I am descended from a Turner family that came from Accomack County, VA. My gr gr gr gr grandfather is Smith Turner (b. @1750, d. 1831). He served in the Continental Army at Valley Forge and at Germantown, and was also in the Virginia Navy (i.e. privateer). He had one son, William, who was born in 1782. In 1806, Smith Turner and his (second) wife, Abigail (Melson) (Pruit) sold their land in Accomack Co., and moved west with some of their children. Smith, Abigail and William settled in Switzerland Co., IN. William appeared on the voter rolls as early as 1807. William also married Abigail's daughter, Tabitha Pruit, and they produced eight children, four of whom were boys. John W. Turner was one of William and Tabitha's sons and he was born in 1813. He lived his whole life in Switzerland Co., as did his three brothers, William, Smith and Isaac. John W. is my gr gr grandfather. Interestingly enough, the Census records say that John W. was born in Ohio. I have not been able to find out where, or even if he really was born in Ohio. I have been told, but have been unable to confirm, that Smith Turner's father and grandfather were William and Abraham Turner. If this seems to fit with what you have on your Turner family I would be interested in exchanging information with you. Of course, there might have been more than one Turner family in Eastern Shore Virginia. BTW, have you visited the GHOTES web site. It is devoted to the genealogy and history of the Eastern Shore. Phil Turner

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I keep getting my mail back at this address. Are you sure that is right? btrvetc-l-request@geneology.org Angie Bush

Still looking for Kentucky Turner's & Birdsong's from (the former) Golden Pond, Kentucky. Also, Cadiz, Paducah, &/or Murray. Thanks people! Bonnie

Anyone have any Turners and Dingmans in their line ? Linda

Does anyone have any Turners in Potter Co. Pa? Any help appreciated. Linda

Please check out my Turner's and see if there is anyone you can connect with. I uploaded all my new information to ultimate family tree's website. http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/missykaz/ORSONTUR/index.htm

D&D.... Don't know which of the fine and generous couple are responsible for the data posted, but from one who has found great value therein... Thank you very much _Mitosis_

This is a continuation from the book Virginia Wills and Administrations 1632-1800 compiled by Clayton Torrence, published in 1978. Middlesex County Daniel Turner 1771 will (w) James " 1785 w Thomas " 1792 inventory (i) Northampton Richard 1649 i Elizabeth 1654 w Christopher 1663 w Edward 1728 w Judith 1732 w Richard 1734 w John 1741 i George Nicholas 1741 w Sarah 1744 w George Nicholas 1745 i Margaret 1745 w Maddox 1751 w Sarah 1753 w Edward 1754 w George 1754 w Andrew 1760 w John 1782 i Edward 1786 w Revell 1798 w Northumberland Edward 1738 w John 1742 w George 1746 w Henry 1752 i Hannah 1754 i John 1794 w John 1796 w William 1798 i Orange Robert 1744 w Prince Edward John 1759 i Princess Ann Thomas 1711 i John 1750 w Thomas 1778 w William 1782 i John 1783 w Prince William John 1744 ab (not sure what that is unless abstract) Rappahanock Hezekiah 1677 w Southampton Simon 1762 w William 1764 i William Sr. 1766 w Simon 1767 w James 1768 w Thomas 1771 w Sampson 1772 w William 1773 i John 1774 w Joseph 1774 w Simon 1775 i James 1777 i William 1779 w Benjamin 1783 w Littleton 1781 i Jacob 1784 w Thomas 1788 w Henry 1791 w Pass 1791 w Thomas 1791 i Henry 1792 w Benjamin 1795 w Willie 1795 w Arthur 1797 i Jacob 1797 w Ann 1799 i John 1799 w Stafford Joseph 1747 i John 1750 i Surry James 1711 i Daniel 1735 w John 1735 i Sussex Edmund 1785 w James 1794 w James 1799 i Westmoreland Robert 1724 i Thomas 1787 w York John 1696 w John 1775 w That completes this listing from the book under Turner One name that probably is Turner, spelled wrong. York Abra Turnor 1648 i This is the material I gathered during this quick trip to Savannah and back. I hope some of you have made a match or have lead to follow. Wouldn't it be wonderful to go to all these counties and abstract the wills for names. Sounds like a project for retirement which is several years away. Deana Dcost@compuserve.com

http://198.17.62.51/collections/LO.html Scrolling through land records yesterday I saw a Shadrack Turner. Don't know if it's the same one that has seen a lot of press lately but thought I would mention it. This is a nice site for any surname though. Diana