I am so sorry to hear of Nancy's passing. I didn't know that she was ill. Her family will be in my thoughts and prayers Anna Moseley

To the List, I just got a message from Nancy Turner Grogan's family, Nancy passed away early Monday morning.. Bev

My brick wall is -Sarah/ Sariah Thomas TURNER Blair of Lamasco. I know very little about her Turner family and a little more of her Blair family in Fannin County. Here is what I have~ 1972 Pedigree from Lorraine MaGouirk Morgan, granddaughter of Tommie TURNER Blair. She givesTommie's birth as 1857 and death July 1922 in Lamasco Texas. She also gives Tommie's maiden name as TURNER Lorraine Morgan was first married to Conrad Morgan then remarried after 1972 .I do not know her name from 2nd marriage. I have heard that she has died.I don't know when or where. Back to Sarah aka as Tommie: In 1880 Census Fannin County, Texas Sariah T. Blair born Missouri parents born Kentucky In the 1900 Census Fannin, County, Texas Sarah T birth June 1856 widowed born Missouri parents born Missouri In the 1910 Census Fannin county, Texas Tommie age 52 widowed born Arkansas parents birth Tennessee Living with daughter Pearl and son-in-law Champ McDonald Her Head stone in the Gum Spring Cemetery Fannin county Texas Blair Father: Elisha 1849- 1895 Mother :Tommie 1857-1922 Other surnames associated with Sarah Thomas Turner are: ~Blair ~Irick~ Hemphill~Lee~MaGouirk~ Hammons~Mc Donald Any research suggestions relating to these Family names is appreciated. Darlyn Blair Calvi [email protected]

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Posting to the list because of TURNER entry. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Hardy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 12 March 2005 03:36 Subject: 1851 Census strays - House of Correction, London > 1851 Census H107 1517 page 923 onwards > House of Correction, Cold Bath Fields, Clerkenwell, London > Henry WARD, Prisoner, married, age 22, General Labourer, born Bristol > James DANIELS, Prisoner, unmarried, age 41, Shoemaker Journeyman, born Bristol > William BRISTOL, Prisoner, unmarried, age 20, General Labourer, born Bath > John B. VAUGHAN, Prisoner, unmarried, age 24, Painter and Glazier Journeyman, born Bath > William SHEERMAN, Prisoner, married, age 49, Chemist Master, born Bristol > John WILLIAMS, Prisoner, unmarried, age 30, Butcher Journeyman, born Bridgewater > William ROBERTS, Prisoner, married, age 34, Sail Maker Journeyman, born Bristol > George J. TURNER, Prisoner, unmarried, age 22, Painter Journeyman, born Bristol > Charles DAY, Prisoner, widower, age 53, Seaman, born Bristol > Robert STAFFORD, Prisoner, married, age 36, Painter and Glazier Journeyman, born Bristol > > > Linda > Tasmania, Australia > > ______________________________

On Tuesday, Mar 8, 2005, at 10:56 US/Eastern, Deborah Dunn wrote: > Audrae: I apologize, you have questioned my postings before. Do you > remember, I asked for your help at one time and you never replied. I > am not > a professional genealogist, just someone trying to find out about my > Turner > line.....Just like many others. I find it surprising that some > individuals > don't want to share what they have documented, that is why there is so > much > miss information out there now. My own line is posted wrong in > numerous > places and I have never posted it.....someone else has, therefore I > cannot > correct the mistakes. All I have done is asked for help finding my > Turners > on this TURNER list. I really thought that was the purpose. I am > sorry if > I have misunderstood the purpose of this list , offended anyone with my > amatuer methods and for the time of the many Turner list members that > I have > wasted. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 06:40 PM > Subject: Re: [TURNER] Roll Call > > >> I am also a William Turner/Sarah Denney Turner descendant, coming from > their >> son Nathan. A group of us have researched William for almost 20 >> years and >> have not ever seen documentation on his birth or death dates or >> locations. > Could >> you please share with us where you found the documentation on these >> pieces > of >> info? Also, is there a typo or did you really mean that he was born >> in >> Massachusetts? >> >> Thanks for your help in this. Look forward to hearing from you soon. >> >> Audrae Turner Mathis >> >> In a message dated 3/7/2005 1:20:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> My line: >> >> > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Thanks Pam for the info. I'll keep it and try to connect it in the future. If we can make a connection, it will sure fill in a lot of blanks for this family. I know quite a lot about the descendants of some of Fielding and Nancy's children, especially Josiah. Donna ---- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Sulzer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Fielding and Nancy Turner > Hi Donna, > I descend from Fielding Turner (1706-1794) of VA and I'm thinking that maybe your line connects with mine there. > One of Fielding's probable nephews, EDWIN TURNER, migrated to Halifax Co., SC in the 1700s. Possibly you come from that group. There were definitely "Fieldings" among them. Edwin's father was EDWARD TURNER who died in Northumberland Co., VA in 1738. He also owned a plantation in Westmoreland Co. He left 5 children, one being EDWIN. > Good luck, > Pam > > > Donna Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > I have enjoyed reading all the info on the Turner list lately and have watched with great anticipation for some of my line. Actually it is my husband's line but I guess we've been married long enough that it seems like my line. I started out trying to trace "my family" several years ago but kept coming up with tidbits on the Turners and eventually found myself looking for them everytime I was at the library or a courthouse somewhere. I have not seen any of them (as far as I know) on the roll call so decided to post some of them. My line is Fielding and Nancy (I think Coleman) Turner. They were born between 1802-1810. The 1830 census says both were born in Tennessee but others say he was born in North Carolina and South Carolina. They lived in Bledsoe County, Tenn. in 1830, 1840 and 1850. They were living in Walker County, Georgia in 1860 and in Marion County, Tennessee in 1870 and 1880. As far as I know, here are their children: > 1. James L. - b abt. 1830 & d December 5, 1864 > 2. Liza Jane -b abt. 1832 & d after 1880 > 3. Jessie Jackson - b August 30, 1833 & d January 3, 1909 > 4. Franklin - b abt. 1837 > 5. Josiah - According to his tombstone he was b July 27. 1838 (I disagree with this date) & d October 18, 1906 > 6. Elizabeth - b abt. 1843 > 7. William Riley - b abt. 1845 > 8. Millie - b abt. 1847 > 9. George Washington - b abt 1849 & d after 1890 > 10. Samuel - b July 1852 & d 1924 > > All these children were born in Tennessee except Samuel and he possibly could have been born in Illinois. I have done extensive study on this family but am a long way from haveing all the details about them that I would like to have. If any of you have any info, whether it's something that contradicts mine or not, please let me know. I'm not above errors. Thank you, Donna > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Make Yahoo! your home page > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Hi Donna, I descend from Fielding Turner (1706-1794) of VA and I'm thinking that maybe your line connects with mine there. One of Fielding's probable nephews, EDWIN TURNER, migrated to Halifax Co., SC in the 1700s. Possibly you come from that group. There were definitely "Fieldings" among them. Edwin's father was EDWARD TURNER who died in Northumberland Co., VA in 1738. He also owned a plantation in Westmoreland Co. He left 5 children, one being EDWIN. Good luck, Pam Donna Turner <[email protected]> wrote: I have enjoyed reading all the info on the Turner list lately and have watched with great anticipation for some of my line. Actually it is my husband's line but I guess we've been married long enough that it seems like my line. I started out trying to trace "my family" several years ago but kept coming up with tidbits on the Turners and eventually found myself looking for them everytime I was at the library or a courthouse somewhere. I have not seen any of them (as far as I know) on the roll call so decided to post some of them. My line is Fielding and Nancy (I think Coleman) Turner. They were born between 1802-1810. The 1830 census says both were born in Tennessee but others say he was born in North Carolina and South Carolina. They lived in Bledsoe County, Tenn. in 1830, 1840 and 1850. They were living in Walker County, Georgia in 1860 and in Marion County, Tennessee in 1870 and 1880. As far as I know, here are their children: 1. James L. - b abt. 1830 & d December 5, 1864 2. Liza Jane -b abt. 1832 & d after 1880 3. Jessie Jackson - b August 30, 1833 & d January 3, 1909 4. Franklin - b abt. 1837 5. Josiah - According to his tombstone he was b July 27. 1838 (I disagree with this date) & d October 18, 1906 6. Elizabeth - b abt. 1843 7. William Riley - b abt. 1845 8. Millie - b abt. 1847 9. George Washington - b abt 1849 & d after 1890 10. Samuel - b July 1852 & d 1924 All these children were born in Tennessee except Samuel and he possibly could have been born in Illinois. I have done extensive study on this family but am a long way from haveing all the details about them that I would like to have. If any of you have any info, whether it's something that contradicts mine or not, please let me know. I'm not above errors. Thank you, Donna ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page

Posting this because of the TURNERs mentioned -- this is from the Derbyshire, UK List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael spencer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 10 March 2005 15:56 Subject: 1873 MENTIONED IN WILL > Hi list, > and again from 1873. > > MENTIONED IN WILL 1873 > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > 55 Betty TURNER spinster, Lower Cliff within Mellor p.Glossop,mentions; > farm in Stockport Etchells > Rock Cottage New Mills > niece Margaret Anne TURNER > sister Jane TURNER > bro Wm Henry TURNER > John HOWE witness > Ann HADFIELD witness > made 1868 <snip>

I have enjoyed reading all the info on the Turner list lately and have watched with great anticipation for some of my line. Actually it is my husband's line but I guess we've been married long enough that it seems like my line. I started out trying to trace "my family" several years ago but kept coming up with tidbits on the Turners and eventually found myself looking for them everytime I was at the library or a courthouse somewhere. I have not seen any of them (as far as I know) on the roll call so decided to post some of them. My line is Fielding and Nancy (I think Coleman) Turner. They were born between 1802-1810. The 1830 census says both were born in Tennessee but others say he was born in North Carolina and South Carolina. They lived in Bledsoe County, Tenn. in 1830, 1840 and 1850. They were living in Walker County, Georgia in 1860 and in Marion County, Tennessee in 1870 and 1880. As far as I know, here are their children: 1. James L. - b abt. 1830 & d December 5, 1864 2. Liza Jane -b abt. 1832 & d after 1880 3. Jessie Jackson - b August 30, 1833 & d January 3, 1909 4. Franklin - b abt. 1837 5. Josiah - According to his tombstone he was b July 27. 1838 (I disagree with this date) & d October 18, 1906 6. Elizabeth - b abt. 1843 7. William Riley - b abt. 1845 8. Millie - b abt. 1847 9. George Washington - b abt 1849 & d after 1890 10. Samuel - b July 1852 & d 1924 All these children were born in Tennessee except Samuel and he possibly could have been born in Illinois. I have done extensive study on this family but am a long way from haveing all the details about them that I would like to have. If any of you have any info, whether it's something that contradicts mine or not, please let me know. I'm not above errors. Thank you, Donna

Lisa I checked my data base and could not find any Burner in it and I don't have any Turner's in Texas that I know of. Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "lisa chatelain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: [TURNER] Re: TURNER-D Digest V05 #44 > Interested in the following family (cut and pasted here from e-mail rec'd) > > Phillip L. Turner b. 1790 NC. d. 1861 TN. ?m. Macey Vinsonchildren:Isaac > Marshall TurnerAlfred King TurnerFrederick Williamson TurnerRhoda Ann > TurnerMay Jane TurnerElizabeth Berry TurnerAlfred m.Jessie Judona Berry > Carroll Co. TN.Children:Martha E. Turner b. abt. 1854 KY.?Nany E. Turner > b. abt. 1857 KY. ?Daniel Lonnie Turner b. 1860 White Co. AR. d.1916 > Faulkner Co. AR.Daniel m. Cordelia Alice Frezzell White Co. > AR.Children:Benny D. b.1887 d.1887Annie Mae b. 1890 d. 1934Roy Lee b. 1892 > d. 1903Murtle b. 1895 d. 1910Elmer Lee b. 1898 d. 1900Otis Everett b. 1901 > d. 1974Nettie Bell b. 1904 d.1977Nellie Leona b.1906 b. 1941Viola b.1910 > d. 1991Clarence Daniel b.1912 d.1990Otis m. Eva Sarah Rice Jan. 15 1927 > Faulkner Co. AR.** On another note I have a grandfather Rice and on his > death certificate it has him listed as > female.______________________________ > > ************************************************************************************************************ > I have been tracing Turners from the east coast, in to TN, over to AR and > TX. Wondering if these might connect to our Samuel Burner, bonr 1812, SC, > arrived in TX 15 Sept 1837. He married 9 Aug 1839 to Emily Midkiff, born > 1818 TN and the Midkiffs went VA, TN, AR, TX route. Trying to find out if > any Turners also went that route and if they might be related to my > Samuel. > > > Lisa Chatelain > > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

My wall is John Turner bn 1793 in KY (somewhere), d. bef 1880 in Fishing River, Ray Co, Missouri. John m. Jane Odell bef 1810, most likely in MO. Their Children were: James J.; Littleton; Ellen; Nancy "Sally"; Thomas; Joshua; Martha Ann; John; Joseph and Artema. This is as far back as I have been able to get. Bev

My line of Turner's: Shadrack Turner/Ann Pollard Hill---------England/ John M. Turner/Elizabeth Price------------Patrick, Virginia William A. Turner/Francis Unknown-----VA. John A. Turner/Willie Ann England-------VA./Barren County, Kentucky William Tolbert Turner/Delina Ellen Isenburg--Monroe Co., KY./TN. John D. Turner/Hannah Elizabeth Isenburg--KY. Henry Homer Turner/Ethel Estelle Brooks---Tompkinsville, Monroe Co., KY./Beth Page, Macon Co., TN. Lamon D. Turner/Pearl Irene Lyon------------LaFayette, Macon Co., TN./Georgetown, IL. myself Thanks, Lanice (Turner) Green

This is a very long shot but you never know. My Samuel Turner, born 1812, SC, arried in TX 15 Sept 1837, no idea where he was from 1812-1837. He married Emily Midkiff, born 1818 TN on 9 Aug 1839 in Nacogdoches Co, TX. His brother in law, Henry Midkiff, married a lady Eliza (last name unknown) who had been widowed from her former husband, a Mr Odell. Henry and wife lived in Orange Co, TX on 1860 census. Samuel Turner and family were on 1860, Trinity Co, TX census. In that same county were the descedents of a Littleton Turner, born around 1786 I think in SC. Haven't found any connections to this Littleton Turner family but is it likely that you might? Beverly Aytes-Bowhall <[email protected]> wrote: My wall is John Turner bn 1793 in KY (somewhere), d. bef 1880 in Fishing River, Ray Co, Missouri. John m. Jane Odell bef 1810, most likely in MO. Their Children were: James J.; Littleton; Ellen; Nancy "Sally"; Thomas; Joshua; Martha Ann; John; Joseph and Artema. This is as far back as I have been able to get. Bev ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Joanne, It turns out as I look back that it is the Fentons where I am stuck. I had forgotten I had essentially solved my friend's TURNER line. What I am stuck on is the FENTON link. Samuel TURNER (son of Samuel Turner & Mary Stocker) b. 18 Jan 1749/50 in Salisbury, Litchfield, CT married a Sarah FENTON. They had a son Miles TURNER b. 1785 VT who married Hannah COLE and had Lois Fenton TURNER born in Gouverneur, St. Lawrence, NY in 1831. Interestingly enough a mystery of two Miles TURNERs in Gouverneur, NY in 1810 was solved through help I received on this list a year or two back. They turned out to have an uncle-nephew relationship. However, I never have learned much about the uncle's family. There are so few postings for NYS Turners, that I always try to see if there are any connections when I see a NYS Turner posting. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > Which Turners are you looking for in NY and what time frame? > > Our Turners (John & Mary Turner plus 10 kids) were in Oswego Co (the > county just south of Jefferson) from ~1818-~1840 & Peter Helmer Turner worked in Jefferson Co. & married Lydia Ann Smith there in 1836 before heading out west in the 1840s. > > Blessings, > Joanne Turner

I am trying to find relative of the following family which involves Florida and Georgia TURNERS. I am trying to determine if my Thomas C Turner is from this group. 1860 Hamilton County Florida Name Home in 1860(City,County,State) Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Gender James R Turner, Hamilton, FL 37 1822 Georgia Male Sarah Turner, Hamilton, FL 29 1830 Georgia Female James L Turner, Hamilton, FL 7 1852 Florida Male Mary Turner, Hamilton, FL 6 1853 Florida Female Lucius Turner, Hamilton, FL 4 1855 Florida Male Sarah Turner, Hamilton, FL 2 1857 Florida Female James Turner, Hamilton, FL 50 1809 Georgia Male 1870 Welaka, Putnam County, Florida James Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1830 Florida White Male Sarah Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1830 Florida White Female Lagin Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1852 Florida White Male Mary Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1854 Florida White Female Louis Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1856 Florida White Male Sarah Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1858 Florida White Female William Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1852 Florida White Male Albert Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1855 Florida White Male Stephen Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1853 Florida White Male Collumbus Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1858 Florida White Male Charles Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1859 Florida White Male Thomas Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1861 Florida White Male The next family after them: A E Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1831 Florida White Female Allen Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1869 Florida White Male Barris Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1858 Florida White Female Florence Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1860 Florida White Female Joseph Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1830 Florida White Male Meliccy Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1862 Florida White Female Sarah Turner Welaka, Putnam, FL abt 1856 Florida White Female Another family that is of interest to me because of the name Perry is the following. I would also like to contact members of this family: 1850 Jackson County, Florida Turner, Perry age 30 born about 1820 Ga Turner, Bedy age 30 born about 1820 NC TURNER, John age 7 born about 1843 Ga Turner, Cree Ann E. age 5 born about 1845 FL Turner Sara Ann age 1 year 6 months born about 1848 Fl Turner, James R. age 9 months born about 1849 Fl My Turner line is as follows: Descendants of Thomas C. Turner Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS C. TURNER was born August 1860 in Georgia, and died Bet. 1900 - 1910. He married (1) ROBERTA. She was born August 1864 in Georgia. He married (2) SARAH Abt. 1880. I am not sure is Roberta and Sarah are the same person. On 1900 Thomas's wife is listed as Roberta and the mother of the children. After that the name is Sarah and she is listed as mother and they live in her household after that point. Thomas is not with them in the 1910 census and Sarah is listed as widow of Thomas C in the Lakeland City directories. She was born Abt. 1861 in Georgia, and died January 16, 1934 in Morrell Memorial Hospital, Lakeland, Polk County, Florida. Children of THOMAS TURNER and SARAH are: i. BARNEY R TURNER, b. May 20, 1885; d. March 31, 1920, Lakeland, Polk County, Florida; m. INEZ I UNKNOWN. ii. VIRGIL O. TURNER, b. December 1890, Georgia; d. August 21, 1971, Polk County, Florida. iii. CHARLES Adam TURNER, b. July 1897. 2. iv. JAMES PERRY TURNER, b. May 27, 1892, Macon Georgia; d. September 11, 1944, V. A. hospital, Pinellas County, Florida. Generation No. 2 2. JAMES PERRY TURNER (THOMAS C.1) was born May 27, 1892 in Macon Georgia, and died September 11, 1944 in V. A. hospital, Pinellas County, Florida.James Perry Turner is buried in Linden Cemetery, Linden Florida. Linden is right outsde Webster, Florida. He married MINNIE VESTA WARD SHEROUSE July 30, 1924 in Kissimmee, Osceola County, FL. She was born August 22, 1902 in Conway, Horry County, South Carolina, and died August 17, 1970 in Bartow, Florida. Vesta's first husband was Cecil Leo Sherouse. They married in 1920 in Polk County, Florida. They had one child, Cecil Leo Jr who died at age 8. Children of JAMES TURNER and MINNIE WARD are: 3. i. BONITA ETHLYND3 TURNER, b. November 11, 1932, Perry, Florida; d. November 19, 1961, Bartow County, Florida. ii. JAMES PERRY TURNER, JR., b. September 03, 1927; d. September 03, 1927. 4. iii. GEORGE DANIEL TURNER, b. February 22, 1925, Lakeland, Polk County, Florida; d. March 22, 1988, Ottumwa, Wapello County, IA. 5. iv. JAMES CLAY TURNER, b. September 23, 1928, Florida; d. January 13, 1975, Lakeland, Polk County, Florida. Generation No. 3 3. BONITA ETHLYND TURNER (JAMES PERRY2, THOMAS C.1) was born November 11, 1932 in Perry, Florida, and died November 19, 1961 in Bartow County, Florida. She married (1) CHARLES FRANK HYLANDER .She married (2) FRANK Manion / Marion MILES June 24, 1956 in Donalsonville, Seminole County, Georgia. He was born October 13, 1922 in Florida, and died May 30, 1980 in Lakeland, Florida. 4. GEORGE DANIEL TURNER (JAMES PERRY2, THOMAS C.1) was born February 22, 1925 in Lakeland, Polk County, Florida, and died March 22, 1988 in Ottumwa, Wapello County, IA. He married (1) ANNETTTE FEASTER. He married (2) MIRIAM. 5. JAMES CLAY TURNER (JAMES PERRY, THOMAS C.) was born September 23, 1928 in Florida, and died January 13, 1975 in Lakeland, Polk County, Florida. He married SHIRLEY SEXTON. Any help is greatly appreciated! Lisa

My Elijah Turner was born Feb. 17, 1842, married Mary Anne Ritchie who was born Jan 1 1841. They lived in the town of Elmsley, Ontario and moved to Ogdensburg in 1871 with daugther Elizabeth (Lizzie) and George L. and Mary Anne's Mother Mary who moved with them to Ogdensbury, NY and died June 1, 1885 in NY. Lizzie was born Feb 7, 1861 in Elmsley, Ontario She died May 15, 1894. George L. was born June 21, 1863 Elmsley, Ontaio Thomas R. born April 4, 1866 Ogdensburg, NY Died Aug 25, 1910 in Buffalo, NY George, Third son born Aug 4, 1869 in Ogdensburg, NY Mary R., second daughter, born February 26, 1872 in Ogdensburg, NY Emmin A. third daughter, born Feb 9, 1878 in Ogdensburg, NY This was all given to by a relative it was in Elijah Turner's Bible which was given to my grandmother who left it behind when she left one of her husbands. I have more info about the Ritchie family if your interested. I thank her very much for this information. Otherwise I would still be stuck on this part of the family. Lynn J.

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You cannot always believe the civil records. I have a copy of the marriage record of my grandmother. She was a child from a second marriage, the authorities mixed up all the names, and the names of her parents were incorrect. For a while I wondered if she was adopted! This was a small town, I suppose they knew everyone, and got mixed up! Margaret Hobler -----Original Message----- From: lisa chatelain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 1:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TURNER] Re: Documetation Believe me, I know from working for the government there are outstanding employees, average and those you hope you don't have to work the case after. Lamar Wadsworth <[email protected]> wrote:Bear in mind also that people as adults lied about their ages for whatever reason. My maternal grandmother was 2 years and 8 months older than my grandfather. She was embarrassed for people to know that she was that much older than her husband. She would admit to 8 months but not 2 years and 8 months. When she died, as his last act of devotion to the only woman he ever loved, my grandfather had her preferred date of birth--1887 rather than 1885--inscribed on her tombstone. One of my great-grandmothers was born 1871 according to her tombstone. She shouldn't have been on the 1870 census at all if we believe her tombstone, but she was not only on the 1870 census, she was 5 years old in 1870. Census records are not infallible for a variety of reasons. The census taker may have been very conscientious or may not have given a hoot. The census taker may have been a local schoolteacher picking up some extra money over the summer as a census worker, or the census taker may have been the town drunk. Sometimes a family wasn't at home when the census taker came and, instead of going back later, the census taker asked a neighbor. The neighbor, of course, didn't know the exact ages and guessed at it. Perhaps the neighbor omitted one of the children or got one of the children's names wrong. A good general rule is that the closer the creation of the record is to the time of the event, the more accurate it is likely to be. For instance, here in GA where births were not officially recorded until 1919, I would give more weight to a family Bible record that appears to have been recorded when the child was born than I would give to a census record indicating that the child is X years old. An 1870 census record showing that my gr-grandmother was 5 years old in 1870 carries more weight than a tombstone that says she was born in 1871. When sources give different ages for the same person, it is a judgement call as to which source is most likely to be accurate. --Lamar On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 19:26:48 -0600 "Margaret Davis" writes: > My mother's family always said that my uncle was born December 24th > 1910. > After the census came on line I found him in the 1910 census and he > was 2 > years old. Now people are supposed to list their children and > themselves as > the age they would be when the census was taken right. If they took > it in > June and the census was effective as of April they listed the age as > what it > would be in April. You could not get my mother to realize that her > family > made a mistake. I told her, you would mistake a baby's age a couple > of > months old but how could you mistake a child 2 years old, but she > never > changed her mind. So from that "mistake" right there I was skeptical > of all > records, and tried to find a verification of each. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lamar Wadsworth" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:09 PM > Subject: Re: [TURNER] Re: Documetation > > > > Harold, > > Perhaps you do not exist. You could be only a figment of your own > > imagination. I'm reminded of a woman I knew who was probably near > if not > > past 100 when she died. She did not know her exact age or date of > birth. > > She once remarked, "All I know is that I have been around as long > as I > > can remember, and I can remember back a long time." > > --Lamar > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 18:26:44 -0600 "Harold" > > > writes: > >> Documetation is WRONG a lot > >> times: > >> A lot of people don't have the money > >> to send off for copies of documents. > >> You would have to have documents > >> on each and everyone for it to work. > >> > >> A lot of times even if you had the money, > >> people don't know where to write for > >> documents; on top of that they don't > >> know the dates; and without dates' > >> you can't get most documents. > >> > >> If you send your money and they > >> don't find a document; because the > >> dates don't match, or the names are > >> spelled a little different; they keep your > >> money for looking. > >> > >> Harold > >> p.s. there is no documentation that > >> I was even born. > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > >> Turner list website - > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >> > >> ============================== > >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > >> New content added every business day. 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I have a James Turner born in New York 29 Jan 1813. He married in Montgomery County, (Dayton), Ohio in 1833 Catherine Foutz who was born In Maryland. This birth info came from the 1880 census. This is absolutely all I Know. Margaret Hobler -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TURNER] New York Turners (was: Documentation) Hi Margaret, << Now I wish someone would post on Jefferson and St. Lawrence Counties New York Turners.  Most of you seem to be researching people from the South. >> Which Turners are you looking for in NY and what time frame? Our Turners (John & Mary Turner plus 10 kids) were in Oswego Co (the county just south of Jefferson) from ~1818-~1840 & Peter Helmer Turner worked in Jefferson Co. & married Lydia Ann Smith there in 1836 before heading out west in the 1840s. Blessings, Joanne Turner ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx