Harold, I don't know anything about your William Turner, but I think that the Texas Rangers were formed during the period when Texas was an independent country; between 1836 and 1846. That would make your ancestor a tad young to join right after they were formed. Phil Turner Harold <[email protected]> wrote: I have a William Turner born about 1839 in TN., who I am told went from MS., to Texas and joined the Texas Rangers right after they were formed. William Turner was the s.o. John Turner b. about 1795 in SC., County unknown. This John Turner was supposly in the war of 1812 and the battle of New Orleans. Any information will be appreciated. Harold Gosnell p.s. I have no known living Turners. ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

On Sunday, March 27, 2005, at 06:51 PM, Philip Turner wrote: > Hi Joan, > > Was the William Turner b. 1782 in Roskey's book born on the Eastern > Shore? I looked through his book several years ago but have forgotten > most of the details. > > Phil Turner > > "Joan H. Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote: > Have a William Turner b1782 listed in book by William Roskey. Didn't > copy > any further after I got the ones I wanted. Check page 55-56 > > > There are 4 William TURNERS born in the 1760 on the eastern Shores. > It is very easy to get them confused. There was one william born on > 17 nov. 1768 in Amherst Co, VA and died before 1811 in Wilson Co. TN. > He was the son of Stephen Rubin TURNER and Suzannah HAMMER. Bob

Thank you very much for the information. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turners in the Texas Rangers > The Web site for the TEXAS RANGERS > > http://www.terrystexasrangers.org/biographical_notes/p/index.htm > > It is a great resource. > pjd > 3/28/05 >

Lisa, Thank you very much for the information. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: lisa chatelain <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turners in the Texas Rangers > > Harold > There was a William Turner on 1845 Tax List for Nacogdoches Co, TX. Also there were a lot of Turners who came from TN to TX. There was a John Turner, born NC, moved to TN before TX who was a signer of the Texas Declaration of Independence. John Turner was living in San Patricio, TX prior to the Revolution. This was supposed to be a settlement of Irish Catholics but there were a lot of Presbyterians and Methodist who came to this colony. >

That website is Terry's Texas Rangers. That was a Civil War unit. http://www.texasranger.org/history/rangerHistory.htm http://www.lsjunction.com/facts/rangers.htm You can also find transcriptions of actual documents and many scanned images on this site here. You have to work your way around on the site to find what you need. Try first with "searches" and go from there. There's a lot of military history on this site and many microfilmed documents that have been downloaded you can print right off your computer. Seems like there were tons of documents for a William Turner, didn't look through them all as there were too many. http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/ Actual documents of William Turner. http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/RepublicResults.jsp Service records for Turners http://www2.tsl.state.tx.us/trail/ServiceResults.jsp More history links with documents http://www.republic-of-texas.net/archives.shtml I have other sites but will have to look them up. Have fun! Harold <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you very much for the information. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turners in the Texas Rangers > The Web site for the TEXAS RANGERS > > http://www.terrystexasrangers.org/biographical_notes/p/index.htm > > It is a great resource. > pjd > 3/28/05 > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more.

The Web site for the TEXAS RANGERS http://www.terrystexasrangers.org/biographical_notes/p/index.htm It is a great resource. pjd 3/28/05 On Monday, March 28, 2005, at 02:37 PM, Harold wrote: > I have a William Turner born about > 1839 in TN., who I am told went from > MS., to Texas and joined the Texas > Rangers right after they were formed. > > William Turner was the s.o. John Turner > b. about 1795 in SC., County unknown. > This John Turner was supposly in the > war of 1812 and the battle of New > Orleans. > > Any information will be appreciated. > Harold Gosnell > p.s. I have no known living Turners. > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/ > tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Harold There was a William Turner on 1845 Tax List for Nacogdoches Co, TX. Also there were a lot of Turners who came from TN to TX. There was a John Turner, born NC, moved to TN before TX who was a signer of the Texas Declaration of Independence. John Turner was living in San Patricio, TX prior to the Revolution. This was supposed to be a settlement of Irish Catholics but there were a lot of Presbyterians and Methodist who came to this colony. Harold <[email protected]> wrote: I have a William Turner born about 1839 in TN., who I am told went from MS., to Texas and joined the Texas Rangers right after they were formed. William Turner was the s.o. John Turner b. about 1795 in SC., County unknown. This John Turner was supposly in the war of 1812 and the battle of New Orleans. Any information will be appreciated. Harold Gosnell p.s. I have no known living Turners. ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 Lisa Chatelain --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

Is anyone on this list related to John Turner married to Nancy Clark in 1770? Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: [TURNER] Turners in the Texas Rangers > I have a William Turner born about > 1839 in TN., who I am told went from > MS., to Texas and joined the Texas > Rangers right after they were formed. > > William Turner was the s.o. John Turner > b. about 1795 in SC., County unknown. > This John Turner was supposly in the > war of 1812 and the battle of New > Orleans. > > Any information will be appreciated. > Harold Gosnell > p.s. I have no known living Turners. > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

I have a William Turner born about 1839 in TN., who I am told went from MS., to Texas and joined the Texas Rangers right after they were formed. William Turner was the s.o. John Turner b. about 1795 in SC., County unknown. This John Turner was supposly in the war of 1812 and the battle of New Orleans. Any information will be appreciated. Harold Gosnell p.s. I have no known living Turners.

Hi, I'm not looking for William Turner. I was trying to help someone who was. I had copied pg. 55 from Roskey's book and saw a William Turner there. I'm working on Lewis Turner and am in hopes the one in the book is the one I'm looking for. Joan

My current data (always amenable to correction) Rev. William Leftwich TURNER (s/o Rev. James Turner& Sally Leftwich) b. 11 Dec 1782 Bedford Co VA d. 13 Oct 1813, Fayetteville, NC wife: Nancy (Ann) ALEXANDER b. 1785 (d/o William Alexander &Agnes Ann Reid) Children Colonel James Alexander TURNER Martha Ann TURNER Sarah (Sally) TURNER - THE LEFTWICH-TURNER FAMILIES OF VIRGINIA AND THEIR CONNECTIONS by Walter Hopkins C.J. Harrisonburg, VA, Carrier and Co. copyright 1992 3 rd printing pjd 3/28/05 On Monday, March 28, 2005, at 08:00 AM, James W. Turner wrote: > The only William Turner that I can find in the Rosky book that was > born in 1782 is the Reverend William Leftwich Turner, born 11DEC1782 > in Liberty, Bedford County, Virginia. Liberty was the County seat. > He died 18OCT1813. He was the son of Reverend James Turner and Sarah > Leftwich. > Philip Turner wrote: > >> Hi Joan, >> Was the William Turner b. 1782 in Roskey's book born on the Eastern >> Shore? I looked through his book several years ago but have >> forgotten most of the details. >> Phil Turner >> >> "Joan H. Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Have a William Turner b1782 listed in book by William Roskey. Didn't >> copy >> any further after I got the ones I wanted. Check page 55-56 >> >> >> >> ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >> Turner list website - >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >> Turner list website - >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >> the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I have a copy of Roskey's book and the Turners that are on pages 55-56 are part of the family of Col. Thomas Turner of King George Co., VA. Nothing in the book connects him to the Bedford Co. Turners. Joan, if you can tell us a little more about YOUR William Turner--spouse, where he lived, children's names, etc. maybe those of us who have done a lot of research on the various Turner lines in VA might spot a connection to something in our records. We might know then if it seems reasonable that he fits in that group of Turners on pages 55-56 of Roskey or perhaps in one of the other DIFFERENT lines of Turners that Roskey summarizes. Also, Roskey is not the Bible on Turners--it is a very sketchy outline. There are errors in it that later researchers have been able to unravel. Joan, let us know more about your particular William Turner family. Gail

The only William Turner that I can find in the Rosky book that was born in 1782 is the Reverend William Leftwich Turner, born 11DEC1782 in Liberty, Bedford County, Virginia. Liberty was the County seat. He died 18OCT1813. He was the son of Reverend James Turner and Sarah Leftwich. Philip Turner wrote: >Hi Joan, > >Was the William Turner b. 1782 in Roskey's book born on the Eastern Shore? I looked through his book several years ago but have forgotten most of the details. > >Phil Turner > >"Joan H. Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote: >Have a William Turner b1782 listed in book by William Roskey. Didn't copy >any further after I got the ones I wanted. Check page 55-56 > > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

James, Thank you. This is not "my" William Turner. Phil Turner "James W. Turner" <[email protected]> wrote: The only William Turner that I can find in the Rosky book that was born in 1782 is the Reverend William Leftwich Turner, born 11DEC1782 in Liberty, Bedford County, Virginia. Liberty was the County seat. He died 18OCT1813. He was the son of Reverend James Turner and Sarah Leftwich. Philip Turner wrote: >Hi Joan, > >Was the William Turner b. 1782 in Roskey's book born on the Eastern Shore? I looked through his book several years ago but have forgotten most of the details. > >Phil Turner > >"Joan H. Arthur" wrote: >Have a William Turner b1782 listed in book by William Roskey. Didn't copy >any further after I got the ones I wanted. Check page 55-56 > > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

My Turners were Melungeons, came out of Robeson Co. NC/Marlboro Co. SC (neighboring counties), from Marlboro Co. SC to Fayette Co. GA. My Turners intermarried with Mitchells, Barrentines, and Quicks. --Lamar Wadsworth On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:34:26 -0400 "Kim Chaput" <[email protected]> writes: > Hi, I have Turners from Canada,Quebec...But some moved to the > States. > Trying to find some Connections... > John Turner married Nancy Clark. > Is anyone familliar with an aboriginal named Thomas Turner from > Moose > Factory? > Thanks Kim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:06 PM > Subject: [TURNER] Turner Statecall? > > > > To Fellow Turner Researchers; > > > > I find this rather complicated. I see many turners, yet am lost > in > > connections. Can people on this site most something about where > their > turners are from > > and a simple date to help other researchers and myself to connect > better > within > > this group. Something simple like this would be a good start. > > > > Maine [Turner] 1850 > > > > > > Thanks- > > Paul Cote, Jr > > Lewiston, Maine 04240 > > > > > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Hi Joan, Was the William Turner b. 1782 in Roskey's book born on the Eastern Shore? I looked through his book several years ago but have forgotten most of the details. Phil Turner "Joan H. Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote: Have a William Turner b1782 listed in book by William Roskey. Didn't copy any further after I got the ones I wanted. Check page 55-56 ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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My brick wall is Isaac TURNER b May 1788 Paris, FR came to US c 1792 d 1867 Wayne Co., PA. The family name was de la TOURNEUR (var. sp.). The only information I have on him is he enlisted in the War/1812 in Mamaroneck, Westchester Co., NY. He then disappears until he 'arrives' in Wayne Co. in 1848 when he married Nancy KELL(E)Y. They had 8 children - married into the Depew and Bird families. In a newspaper interview with one of his daughters, she gave the information re her father's date and place of birth and when he came to US. I have no info at all on Isaac's parentage or siblings. Family lore says he 'came from the West' to PA and was married at least once before he married Nancy. I believe he had a son John who lived next door to Isaac/Nancy in the 1850 census in Wayne Co., PA. The name MILTON was given to several sons in those early years. The family was also prone to TWINS. Anyone missing a grandfather Isaac??? Diane * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/

Dear pjd Although I cannot find the link there is a good chance that I have ancestors who were descended from Richaard Turner. Through the TurnerFamily DNA project I found a 100% match at the 12 marker level with a descendant of Richard. Whatever information you have on Richard and his descendants I would be grateful to receive. I have attached some background on my search (see below) for Lloyd Edmund Turner my grandfather - who I have very limited information on. Any help on Lloyd or Richard's descendants would be very helpful. Best wishes, Chris PS I am English and live in London - if there is anything I can do for you - please let me know. Info. on Lloyd Edmund Turner follows: I am trying to trace my grandfather Lloyd Edmund (or Edmond) Turner and thus his family line. It is likely Lloyd Edmund Turner's family came from the American South (NC/SC?). My grandmother said they did and I took a DNA test and ran it against a US centric database and came up with 7 hits or matches šC all Turners living in or having migrated from the American South. I had a 100% match with my DNA with one man who has traced his ancestry back through Georgia into Virginia to a Richard Turner who emigrated to the US from England in the late 1600¡¯s. I would love to find more about Lloyd and see where he ¡®fits¡¯ in to this family (if indeed he does). It would appear that Lloyd and/or his family moved to California where he was living in the Los Angeles area in the early 1920's. (He is listed in the LA City Directory for 1923 šC page 3069) but is not on the 1920 census for California šC although I understand that the online version of the 1920 census just lists the head of household and it may well be of course that Lloyd was too young to be a head of household at that time. I believe that there are about 450 Turner families living in LA County in 1920 though. His address is listed as 5760 Omaha Street, LA and he is listed as the householder. He is not listed in either the 1922 or 1924 directories. An address just down the street (5787) was given as Lloyd¡¯s address on my father¡¯s birth certificate as of Oct 1924. I thought his living on Omaha Street might be something to follow-up on šC and I had a very brief review of property records at the Vital Records office in Norwalk šC but without success šC but it may be worth doing a more exhaustive search to see if he owned or rented a property and this was recorded?? Another thought I had was that maybe property taxes were levied in 1923 and he might have had to pay them? I do not know how one would find this out. My great-grandparents (with my grandmother) šC Lewis John Geddes and Frances Mildred Geddes (both born and married in Canada) lived on the same street at that time (5579 Omaha šC in the 1924 City Directory) and I presume they were neighbours and met. Although I did look in the year books at my grandmother¡¯s High School (Hollywood) to see if Lloyd had gone to the same school as her šC but no success I am afraid. My grandmother (Eileen Geddes) told us Lloyd and she married at a friend¡¯s house in the LA area in 1923 or 1924. Having looked in both the LA and Orange County records offices šC I cannot find a record of the marriage. It may well be of course that they were not married. My grandmother was very young when she married šC she was born in January of 1906 and so we have assumed that Lloyd is likely to be born in the late 1890¡¯s or early 1900¡¯s šC but have no proof of this. We cannot find a birth certificate for him in California šC although there are one or two candidates from other parts of the US (including a 19 year old Lloyd Turner living in a boarding house in Charlotte, North Carolina from the 1920 US census). So we are just guessing then that Lloyd was born late 1890's or very early 1900's. From my father¡¯s birth certificate it lists Lloyd as a building contractor. I believe that if you were a contractor šC you needed a license šC this might be an avenue to pursue? Lloyd reputedly died in a car accident in the Los Angeles area in late 1923 or 1924 or maybe later šC but again we cannot find a death certificate for LA or Orange Counties for those years or a little later. My grandmother was pregnant with my father (he was born October 1924) when he allegedly died. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [TURNER] Re:TURNERS IN VIRGINIA >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:20:58 -0600 > > SOME TURNERS OF VIRGINIA by Louise Patton Richardson Turner > has been generously transcribed by Vernon H. Drewa, Jr. >and is available at the URL below. Louise referred to them as" the >GOOCHLAND TURNERS" >when we corresponded 20+ years ago , and did not feel there was > a relationship with my Fairfax/Loudoun Turner/Ellzey line. >There seems to be a third TURNER line that starts with >Richard Turner b 1660 Lands End Eng. d 1742 in Caroline Co VA(wife >Margaret) > > http://www.drewa.com/Some%20Turners%20of%20Virginia.htm > > With time , patience and the help of friend researchers we all try to >sort out the various lines > >pjd >3/22/05 > > >> > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Chris, I have access through Proquest to the L.A. newspaper. I looked, several combinations of words, for mention of Lloyd Edmund Turner without luck. I even used the words "accident" and "turner", etc. to see what I could find but nothing came up. Of course, that doesn't mean absolutely that there is no mention in an article, I wouldn't give up on newspapers that easily, but that was the result of my search. Maybe a different newspaper from that era would include a write up about the accident. An event like that should have made the papers wherever it happened. Maybe available L.A. papers have obituary archives that you could inquire about. Most papers have an internet site through which you could contact them. Another thought - maybe the wreck took place away from L.A. Another place I tried was the World War I Registrations at Ancestry.com. If you were of the proper age to serve in the military in 1917/1918 then you had to register. His name did not appear there either but I believe there was a Lloyd Edward Turner among the names. Have you tried probate records? Cemetery records? Voting records? Look for a marriage record in the surrounding counties. My underage uncle and aunt "ran off" to a county in MS to marry because they were of legal age there, but their actual home was in a nearby county/parish in Louisiana. Have you tried the 1910 and 1900 censuses? Good luck, Pam Chris Turner <[email protected]> wrote: Dear pjd Although I cannot find the link there is a good chance that I have ancestors who were descended from Richaard Turner. Through the TurnerFamily DNA project I found a 100% match at the 12 marker level with a descendant of Richard. Whatever information you have on Richard and his descendants I would be grateful to receive. I have attached some background on my search (see below) for Lloyd Edmund Turner my grandfather - who I have very limited information on. Any help on Lloyd or Richard's descendants would be very helpful. Best wishes, Chris PS I am English and live in London - if there is anything I can do for you - please let me know. Info. on Lloyd Edmund Turner follows: I am trying to trace my grandfather Lloyd Edmund (or Edmond) Turner and thus his family line. It is likely Lloyd Edmund Turner's family came from the American South (NC/SC?). My grandmother said they did and I took a DNA test and ran it against a US centric database and came up with 7 hits or matches �C all Turners living in or having migrated from the American South. I had a 100% match with my DNA with one man who has traced his ancestry back through Georgia into Virginia to a Richard Turner who emigrated to the US from England in the late 1600��s. I would love to find more about Lloyd and see where he ��fits�� in to this family (if indeed he does). It would appear that Lloyd and/or his family moved to California where he was living in the Los Angeles area in the early 1920's. (He is listed in the LA City Directory for 1923 �C page 3069) but is not on the 1920 census for California �C although I understand that the online version of the 1920 census just lists the head of household and it may well be of course that Lloyd was too young to be a head of household at that time. I believe that there are about 450 Turner families living in LA County in 1920 though. His address is listed as 5760 Omaha Street, LA and he is listed as the householder. He is not listed in either the 1922 or 1924 directories. An address just down the street (5787) was given as Lloyd��s address on my father��s birth certificate as of Oct 1924. I thought his living on Omaha Street might be something to follow-up on �C and I had a very brief review of property records at the Vital Records office in Norwalk �C but without success �C but it may be worth doing a more exhaustive search to see if he owned or rented a property and this was recorded?? Another thought I had was that maybe property taxes were levied in 1923 and he might have had to pay them? I do not know how one would find this out. My great-grandparents (with my grandmother) �C Lewis John Geddes and Frances Mildred Geddes (both born and married in Canada) lived on the same street at that time (5579 Omaha �C in the 1924 City Directory) and I presume they were neighbours and met. Although I did look in the year books at my grandmother��s High School (Hollywood) to see if Lloyd had gone to the same school as her �C but no success I am afraid. My grandmother (Eileen Geddes) told us Lloyd and she married at a friend��s house in the LA area in 1923 or 1924. Having looked in both the LA and Orange County records offices �C I cannot find a record of the marriage. It may well be of course that they were not married. My grandmother was very young when she married �C she was born in January of 1906 and so we have assumed that Lloyd is likely to be born in the late 1890��s or early 1900��s �C but have no proof of this. We cannot find a birth certificate for him in California �C although there are one or two candidates from other parts of the US (including a 19 year old Lloyd Turner living in a boarding house in Charlotte, North Carolina from the 1920 US census). So we are just guessing then that Lloyd was born late 1890's or very early 1900's. From my father��s birth certificate it lists Lloyd as a building contractor. I believe that if you were a contractor �C you needed a license �C this might be an avenue to pursue? Lloyd reputedly died in a car accident in the Los Angeles area in late 1923 or 1924 or maybe later �C but again we cannot find a death certificate for LA or Orange Counties for those years or a little later. My grandmother was pregnant with my father (he was born October 1924) when he allegedly died. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [TURNER] Re:TURNERS IN VIRGINIA >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:20:58 -0600 > > SOME TURNERS OF VIRGINIA by Louise Patton Richardson Turner > has been generously transcribed by Vernon H. Drewa, Jr. >and is available at the URL below. Louise referred to them as" the >GOOCHLAND TURNERS" >when we corresponded 20+ years ago , and did not feel there was > a relationship with my Fairfax/Loudoun Turner/Ellzey line. >There seems to be a third TURNER line that starts with >Richard Turner b 1660 Lands End Eng. d 1742 in Caroline Co VA(wife >Margaret) > > http://www.drewa.com/Some%20Turners%20of%20Virginia.htm > > With time , patience and the help of friend researchers we all try to >sort out the various lines > >pjd >3/22/05 > > >> > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!