Brenda, I hate to try and contact you on the board but all my messages to you are being blocked by your ISP, fire wall or spam filter or something. I need to confirm some things about the DNA test kit you sponsored so I can post it to our website. Can you check to see why my e-mails are being blocked and returned as undeliverable? Gail R. Blancett Administrator Turner DNA Project

I am searching for the parents of Elijah Turner who was born in 1796 in KY and married Unity S. McDonald in 1821 in Warren County, KY. She was the daughter of Allen McDonald who moved from KY to Guin, Marion County, Alabama in 1827. Elijah, Thomas b 1801, and Lorenzo Dow Turner b 1806 joined in the move. Durham Turner was b 1773 in England. His Parents were reportedly (John) Joseph and Chloe Turner who emigrated to KY after 1785, with their seven children. Durham married Phebe Blackford in Woodford County, KY 10 Apr 1793. He was in Nelson County, KY in 1800. He was on the tax list for Warren County, KY from 1802 - 1808. He was on the Federal Census for Grayson County, KY in 1810, with his wife and their eight children. The ages of these children fit Elijah, Thomas, and Lorenzo Dow Turner. Durham died in Grayson County, KY in 1817. Does anyone have any information that might help to clarify this relationship. Thanks. Bill Turner

Does anyone have Barney S Turner b 11 April 1836 (possibly SC) and lived in DeKalb Co GA married Louisa Brewster abt 1857 fought in Civil War, Pvt. co K 18 reg. 1862-1864 Ga vol. Inf. Army Northern VA csa Bartow GA "Rowland Inf" died Jan 1905 in GA? Amm seeking info on parents names. thanks Mary

My father, George Manuel Turner, knew well his grandmother, Lacy Wadford, but did not know his grandfather's name. In 1969 he took me to Big Creek Cemetery (south of Dothan, AL) but could not find their graves (He said this was the burying grounds for the Wadfords, Mixons, Turners). Have been unable to locate the couple on the 1850 Census, but have followed all the family and descendants since 1860 and verified my father's recollections of his grandmother, uncles/aunts and cousins. Lacy Turner is listed in 1860 and 1870 living near Watford relatived in the Big Creek Commmunity. In 1880 she appears in nearby Jackson Co, FL with the children, again living near Watford relatives. In 1900 the entire family is back living just north of Cottonwood, AL, and Sarah, William, George and John were married with children. Lacy's twins, George and John, were born in Alabama in 1857, so it is assumed that "Unknown Turner" died about that time. Since the oldest son was named William, and George's middle name was William -- I think his name probably was William. Three generations are listed below. Hoping to hear from anyone with a possible connection. 1 Unknown Turner b.Unk (AL) - d. Unk (Abt.1857/59) .. +Lacy Wadford b.1825 (SC) - d. Abt.1915 in Geneva Co, AL ...... 2 Sarah J. Turner b.1851 (FL) - d.1905 (Geneva CO, AL) .......... +Yancy L. Brackins 1851 - 1937 ............... 3 Roxey Ann Brackins 1888 - Unknown ................... +Moses Hallford 1865 - 1930 ............... 3 William Yancy Brackins 1892 - Unknown ................... +Mattie 1889 - Unknown ...... 2 William Thomas Turner b. 1854 (FL) - d. 1922 (Houston Co, AL) .......... +Nancy J. Creel 1859 - 1937 ............... 3 John Henry Turner 1882 - 1962 ................... +Roxie Smith 1882 - 1961 ............... 3 Dovie Turner 1885 - 1946 ................... +Lee Joseph Smith 1880 - Unknown ............... 3 Mary Lena Turner 1888 - 1976 ................... +Zach Smith 1885 - 1932 ............... 3 William Walter Turner 1890 - 1965 ................... +Calcie Gilstrap 1894 - 1964 ............... 3 Noah Turner 1894 - Unknown ................... +Unknown Wife Unknown - Unknown ............... 3 Tommie Turner 1898 - Unknown ...... 2 George William Turner b. 1857 (AL) - d.1906 (Baldwin Co, GA) .......... +Georgiann Smith 1861 - 1932 ............... 3 Rebecca R. Turner 1883 - 1934 ................... +George Smothers 1877 - 1906 ............... *2nd Husband of Rebecca R. Turner: ................... +Lenson N. Tate 1856 - 1921 ............... *3rd Husband of Rebecca R. Turner: ................... +Seaby L. Bess 1884 - 1956 ............... 3 Jessie William Turner 1887 - 1947 ................... +Adley Bateman 1889 - 1910 ............... *2nd Wife of Jessie William Turner: ................... +Cora Lee Hughes 1894 - 1963 ............... 3 George Manuel Turner 1890 - 1978 ................... +Hattie Mahala Dykes 1894 - 1946 ............... *2nd Wife of George Manuel Turner: ................... +Elsie V. Ferguson 1898 - 1977 ............... *3rd Wife of George Manuel Turner: ................... +Annie Lou Hart Hodge 1908 - 1976 ...... 2 John F. Turner b.1857 (AL) - d, 1915 (Houston Co, AL) .......... +Mahaley Creel 1857 - 1915 ............... 3 Cephus Turner 1891 - 1968 ................... +Jessie Cooledge 1887 - Unknown ............... 3 Sylevant Turner 1893 - Unknown ................... +Calcie 1897 - Unknown ............... 3 Henry Turner 1894 - 1962 ................... +Maxie Carroll 1906 - Unknown ............... 3 Hosea Turner 1896 - Unknown ................... +Jenella Somebody 1914 - Unknown ............... 3 Wilburn Turner 1897 - 1922 ............... 3 Mary Turner 1902 - Unknown ................... +Unknown Foster Unknown - Unknown ............... 3 Meadge Turner 1904 - Unknown ............... 3 Delma V. Turner 1906 - Unknown ............... 3 Seaby Turner 1908 - Unknown ............... 3 Johnie Turner 1914 - Unknown Cleatus M. Turner - Jacksonville, FL

Beverly, More thoughts on Henderson Turner. 1850 Census, Oktibbeha Co., MS p. 266 #146 John B. Turner-----30 M---SC---------Farmer Isabella------------37 F-----SC Mary--------------14 F-----SC John---------------12 M-----GA Margaret-----------10 F-----GA Robert---------------8 M----GA James----------------6 M----MS [I don't know if he is related to the others I'll list but there was a Lampkin household one away from him and Lampkins living near the others] p. 267 #187 Thom Davis-----58----SC household Living in this household Hamilton Turner---22 M---SC---Farmer p. 270B #205 Thomas F. Turner----54 M----SC---Farmer----RE $300 Elizabeth-------------52 F------SC Millage--------------?24 M-----SC--Student Critendon-----------?20 M------GA--Farmer Martha--------------15 F--------GA Joseph---------------15 M-------GA Jane------------------14 F-------AL Eliza-------------------7 F--------AL #210 Pilate Hunt-------------21 M----SC--Farmer Minerva----------------19 F #211 Franklin Turner----------34 M-------SC---Farmer Keziah------------------50 F---------SC Sarah--------------------7 F---------MS John Hunt---------------19 M--------SC George Hunt------------14 M--------SC Keziah Hunt-------------15 F--------SC Willie Shaw-------------13 M Answer Watson---------18 M [Gail's notes: Keziah Turner listed here is the widow of William Lacy Hunt who died in 1836 in Greenville Co., SC. She is said to be the daughter of John McClanahan and Mary Robinson. She came to the area in late 1839 or early 1840 with a group led by her oldest son, Esli/Esly Hunt (enumerated in 1850 in Winston Co., MS). Her children were: Julia Ann b. 1815 (m. Hendricks); Esly b. 1820; Orpha b. 1824 (m. Buckner); Rosa b 1827 (m. Moss); Pilate b. 1828; John b. 1830; George b. 1833; Keziah b. 1835. I knew from estate records in Greenville Co. that she had gone to MS to be "near her family." At first I thought this couldn't be her married to this younger Franklin Turner and thought perhaps the census taker had just failed to list her as Hunt and instead had her listed as Turner. But, after working on this group some more, I finally decided that in fact she had married this younger Franklin Turner. I am guessing that this Franklin Turner is probably the son of Thomas F. Turner and Elizabeth here but again, I'm speculating on that connection. The 1860 Census gives some more insights.] p. 271A #214-214 Henderson Turner----30 M---SC---Farmer Susan-----------------23 F----NC Christopher------------3 M----MS John-------------------1 M----MS [I'm sure you recognize this as your Henderson Turner. He is in Magnolia Twp, Columbia Co., AR in 1860] #217 Robert Crenshaw-----47 M Mary-----------------40 F John W. Leatherman----14 M Martha------------------13 F [I don't know if there is a connection here or not to these Turners but.....Mary Hart who was married to Zion/Sion Turner of Greenville Co., SC had a sister who was married to a Robert Crenshaw. This Robert is much too young to be that same Robert and there was lots of intermarriage of Crenshaws and Turners all over so may not be significant at all. I just noticed the name as neighbors.] 1860 Census, Oktibehha Co., MS p. 15 (all page numbers were handwritten page; didn't find a stamped page number on any of them) #133 Gideon T. Turner-------32 M----SC---Farmer ----RE $6400/Per. Prop. $10,300 Ruhana-----------------22 F-----AL [Gail's notes: Gideon Turner was enumerated in 1850 in Winston Co., MS in household of William and Frances Turner. Birthplace for him in 1850 was listed as AL.] p. 82 #622 George Washington------33 M--SC--Farming----$11,400/$34,600 Maryareh----------------29 F---NC children James Turner-------------13 M---AL [Last name on George is Washington, not Turner. This may be the James Turner age 6 in household of John B. in 1850] p. 88 #672 Houshold of James McCaul---46 M---NC Farmer Living with his family was: John Turner---------20 M--AL (by ditto)--Overseeing [This looks like John Turner as 12 in household of John B. in 1850] p. 120 #939 Kezziah Turner-----59 F---SC---Farming----$600/$4,000 Kezziah Hunt-------25 F---(idiot) John Bagwell-------26 M---AL----Farming Sarah Bagwell------18 F----MS Ida Turner----------100 F----Black-----VA [So, hear it is clear that Kezziah was not accidentally listed as Turner in 1850 but had married Franklin Turner. Looks like Sarah Turner age 7 in 1850 has married John Bagwell] p. 121 #941 Pilate Hunt-------30 M---SC---Farming----$2,600/12,800 Minerva---------29 F----AL William-----------9 Celia-------------6 Obin-------------4 M John--------------2 Orfa Buckner-----36 F----SC----$500/4,000 [Note: Pilate and Orfa are children of William Lacy Hunt and Keziah] #942-807 Bettie Turner---------61 F----SC--Farming----Insane Millage---------------32 M----SC-----$1600/400 Jane-----------------20 F-----AL Eliza-----------------17 F-----AL Hamilton-------------30 M---SC---$3200/200--Gin Agent #942-808 (appears to be living in same household with Bettie) Martin Clark---------35 M----GA Martha---------------25 F----GA Mary-----------------6 F Joseph----------------4 M #945 John Hunt---------28 M----$1200/2550 SC Missannia----------26 F William-------------7 David---------------5 Alice---------------3 J. Hunt Guardian for--)------------0/500 Kezziah Hunt---------) [Note: it would appear that this listing is the notation of the value of the personal property (probably slaves) belonging to the idiot daughter Kezziah Hunt who was 25 years old in 1850] #946 McDuffie Hunt------27 M----SC----$2,400/1,250 Sarah----------------23 F William---------------5 Thomas---------------3 [This is George McDuffie Hunt] There is a Thomas Turner mentioned in the records of the Peters Creek Church of Pickens Co., SC. This church was just over the border to the west of Greenville Co., SC and many of these families lived on both sides of the Saluda River which separated the two counties. From those records, it appeared that Thomas Turner's wife was named Elizabeth because there were records of admissions and dismissals at the same time. There was also something in the records about their asking for letters of dismissal about 1830. There are also notes in the minutes about a dispute between Lacy Hunt and Thomas Turner and it sounded like Lacy Hunt was a member of a church in Greenville County while Thomas Turner was a member of the Peters Creek Church. They had asked some brethren from the two churches to sit down with the men to see if they could settle the issue. There was a long period of the church minutes that were were no mention of the Turners and then suddenly in 1850 it stated "Thomas Turner who had left about 20 years earlier was back." I don't know if this is the same Thomas who asked for letters of dismissal in 1830 or not. If so, did he leave poor Bettie in MS and come back? They could be two different Thomas Turners in the minutes. But, for sure, these Hunts that the Turners that Henderson seems to be near in 1850 are from Greenville Co., SC and the Turners may be those from the Pickens/Greenville area. Gail

Good Morning Harold, I think maybe you and I have corresponded before but I can't find my notes and I can't remember, I guess I'm bating 0 this morning. Anyway...... Has your Turner line been DNA tested yet? The reason I ask is because we had a William Turner born late 1700 to early 1800, that left SC and settled in Louisiana. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: [TURNER] Re: Nancy Turner Nancy Rools/Rolls that married John Turner about 1820 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; died in Tishomingo County Ms. in the 1850's. They had a daughter Nancy Turner who was 14 b. in TN., on the 1850 Census of Tishomingo Co., MS. I don't have anything else on her. They had a daughter Alderina (AKA Annette, Everline, Louisa etc) who went to Washington State after marring James F. Gosnell. After the death of both parents, Alderina and Nancy went to Missouri to live with an older married sister(?) and married in MO. Harold ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

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Gail, Thank you very much! You have saved me alot of wasted research. Now I will know not to pursue the Robert>Christopher line. I will check the site for Henderson's DNA numbers. It will be interesting to see if there are any lines close to his. If anyone on this list is wondering why you should contribute DNA to the Turner or any other DNA project, I am a perfect example of the reason. Gail has now saved me lots of hours of mis-spent research, but the reason that she was able to do that, was because two Turner males took the time and spent the money and contributed to the effort to help all of us find our GGFs. Thank to Gail and to all the DNA donors. v/r, Beverly Alexander Culpeper, VA I hear ethereal voices, persuasive, soft and still Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? [email protected] [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail R. Blancett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: [TURNER] Henderson Turner and Christopher Turner > Beverly, > > We have both of these lines in our Turner DNA Project. The DNA does not > match. I keep telling people, the DNA project works and will save you > hours and hours of useless speculation on whether these pesky Turners can > be related to another line. > > Go to our website and click on the word "Results" on the left of the > screen. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~turnerdna/ > > If you use Internet Explorer, you can use the Edit function and then > "Search" and put in the number 16042 for Henderson Turner's DNA signature. > > Then do the same thing and put in number 32001 which is for Robert Turner, > father of Christopher. > > If you don't know how to use the search feature, simply scroll down the > list and hunt for the Kit #16042 with oldest ancestor listed as Henderson > Turner. It is in a bunch of white ones above our "Teal" group. > You will see that Henderson Turner can not be descended from Robert's son > Christopher Turner or any other line of Turners who are related to Robert. > In fact, as I recall, Christopher Turner's estate is in York Co. records > and his children are accounted for. Robert's Kit #32001 is much farther > down the chart in a group of green ones. > > In order to be related, their string of numbers can not vary much. We > have tentatively grouped Robert's line with two other ones. One we know > for sure was in the same area as Robert in York Co., SC and the three > markers that they differ on function together so they are very close. In > this case, the information from standard genealogical research putting > them in the same locality at the same time period suggests they are > potentially related. > > We are constantly adding new members to document more lines. We > particularly hope to have people join who can document their lines back to > early ancestors in various locations because not only will it help them > know what other lines in the area they might be related to, it will > definitely show which ones they cannot be related to. Also, it will help > other researchers who are simply at that brick wall trying to find where > in say SC their Turner is from when he shows up on the 1850 Census in > another state showing a birth in SC. That happened so often. South > Carolina was a major migration route to populate the southwest. > Our project has as it focus Turners who are believed to have their roots > in the mid-Atlantic region of the American Colonies--primarily MD, VA, > PA--and who then followed the Southern migration trail down through the > Carolinas and then westward or those that went westward toward KY, or > into TN etc. We have documented several immigrants into South Carolina. > We limit the focus because that insures that those who participate are > most apt to be helped. My role is strictly on a volunteer basis and I > don't get a penny for getting people to join. I firmly believe that this > works and will eventually help so many Turner researchers. > > We have one major exception to that focus and that is the line of Humphrey > Turner of Scituate, MA. We specifically sought out a descendant of that > line whose family stayed in New Enland. He is in the project because one > branch of the Humphrey Turner line did emigrate to the VA/NC border area > and there are bound to be some descendants floating around somewhere > trying to find their connection. > > > The tests will not prove who the parents or father of a particular person > is. It will show you a group of Turners to which you can belong and > probably as importantly can show you which group you CAN NOT be related > to. In this search, that will save you hours and probably years of wasted > time going down the wrong trail. > > Hope this will help and save you time wondering if your Henderson is a > descendant of Christopher Turner, son of Robert Turner of York Co., SC. > Gail R. Blancett > Administrator > Turner DNA Project > > > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > Turner list website - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. 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Thank you very much. I pulled up the website but haven't had a chance yet to view its contents. I hope to find some good information there. Anything always helps, you never know. We had one relative who was said to have gone "back to AL" and not only was he never from AL, he never went there either! We found him on the Trinity Co, TX census for 1860, 1870, 1880 and 1900! ed turner <[email protected]> wrote: Just for information; Trinity county, Texas was established in 1850 before that it was part of Houston county. In 1850 a lot of land was opened up for gift or purchase. The Trinity River also runs through Trinity county with very fertile farm lands. Between 1850 and 1860 there was a large migration of Turners into Houston, Trinity, Angelina, Nacogdoches and Shelby counties of Texas. Most of the Turners that moved into Houston county primarily came from Alabama and Mississippi. Also, the county seat of Houston county is Crockett (not the city of Houston). If you had relatives that migrated to Texas around 1850, check the following web site for Houston county http://www.rootsweb.com/~txhousto/ there is a lot of good information on this site. The original Houston county was split into four different counties around 1850. This was just for research information. Hope it helps some. Ed Turner >From: lisa chatelain >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner Statecall? >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:56:31 -0700 (PDT) > >A lot of persons from Robeson Co, NC and into SC migrated into MS (Marion >Co, Jackson Co, Smith Co and surrounding areas) and then into LA (Caldwell >Parish) then arrived in TX, primarily this group went into these counties >in TX from what I have found: Jefferson Co, Orange Co, Trinity Co. Orange >was originally part of Jefferson Co so it makes sense to find families on >these two counties. Why some went to Trinity Co and later find others >leaving Orange and Jefferson Co and going to Trinity Co is a mystery. I do >know I have found some information on reasons why they left the first two >counties but exactly why they went to Trintiy Co I am notsure unless it was >they already had friends/family there. There were some large land owners in >the first two counties who were Mulungeons and later moved as there were >disputes about them owning all the land.Some temporarily went into LA >before going to Trinity Co, TX. These were some of the wealthiest persons >of the first two counties who ! > fell into > this group. They owned large amounts of land and cattle. > >Lamar Wadsworth wrote:Mary-- >Where in SC? Mine came out of Robeson Co. NC and Marlboro Co. SC. >--Lamar >On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:29:14 EDT [email protected] writes: > > I agree that a state and year call is a good idea. Here is mine. > > > > Barney S Turner > > 1836 SC > > > > thanks, > > Mary > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > Turner list website - > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > > Learn more: > > >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 >&targetid=5429 > > > > > > > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > >Lisa Chatelain > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Mine seemed to do anything they could after the Civil War. Farming, working in sawmills and working on the railroad. You would not believe how many people were on the 1880 Robertson Co, TX census, all working on the railroad. [email protected] wrote:Also there was a large lumbering industry in Trinity Co. in the late 1800s. My sawmill ancestors (not Turner surname) moved from farming in Austin Co., to sawmill work in Washington Co., to Trinity Co., to Grimes Co., to Jefferson Co., and then to Liberty Co. following the lumbering business. Diann ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Palmer Button Turner b. 22 Jun 1828 Mexico, NY m. Sarah L. Skinner 1858 Webster City, IA d. 11 Oct 1896 Veals Station, TX He would have my Massachusetts DNA. Any connections? Charles F. Turner

Also there was a large lumbering industry in Trinity Co. in the late 1800s. My sawmill ancestors (not Turner surname) moved from farming in Austin Co., to sawmill work in Washington Co., to Trinity Co., to Grimes Co., to Jefferson Co., and then to Liberty Co. following the lumbering business. Diann

Just for information; Trinity county, Texas was established in 1850 before that it was part of Houston county. In 1850 a lot of land was opened up for gift or purchase. The Trinity River also runs through Trinity county with very fertile farm lands. Between 1850 and 1860 there was a large migration of Turners into Houston, Trinity, Angelina, Nacogdoches and Shelby counties of Texas. Most of the Turners that moved into Houston county primarily came from Alabama and Mississippi. Also, the county seat of Houston county is Crockett (not the city of Houston). If you had relatives that migrated to Texas around 1850, check the following web site for Houston county http://www.rootsweb.com/~txhousto/ there is a lot of good information on this site. The original Houston county was split into four different counties around 1850. This was just for research information. Hope it helps some. Ed Turner >From: lisa chatelain <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TURNER] Turner Statecall? >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:56:31 -0700 (PDT) > >A lot of persons from Robeson Co, NC and into SC migrated into MS (Marion >Co, Jackson Co, Smith Co and surrounding areas) and then into LA (Caldwell >Parish) then arrived in TX, primarily this group went into these counties >in TX from what I have found: Jefferson Co, Orange Co, Trinity Co. Orange >was originally part of Jefferson Co so it makes sense to find families on >these two counties. Why some went to Trinity Co and later find others >leaving Orange and Jefferson Co and going to Trinity Co is a mystery. I do >know I have found some information on reasons why they left the first two >counties but exactly why they went to Trintiy Co I am notsure unless it was >they already had friends/family there. There were some large land owners in >the first two counties who were Mulungeons and later moved as there were >disputes about them owning all the land.Some temporarily went into LA >before going to Trinity Co, TX. These were some of the wealthiest persons >of the first two counties who ! > fell into > this group. They owned large amounts of land and cattle. > >Lamar Wadsworth <[email protected]> wrote:Mary-- >Where in SC? Mine came out of Robeson Co. NC and Marlboro Co. SC. >--Lamar >On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:29:14 EDT [email protected] writes: > > I agree that a state and year call is a good idea. Here is mine. > > > > Barney S Turner > > 1836 SC > > > > thanks, > > Mary > > > > > > ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== > > Turner list website - > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > > Learn more: > > >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 >&targetid=5429 > > > > > > > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > >Lisa Chatelain > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== TURNER Mailing List ==== >Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Seeking (desparately) descendants of Moses Turner (probably of Marlbrough CO, SC who migrated to Fayette Co GA... His son Thomas moved from Fayette Co, to Pok Co, to Randolph Co Alabama, where he died after 1880 census. Thomas Madison (aka) TM buried Friendship or Fellowship Baptist Church, Bacon Level. Unknown children of Thomas Madison and Statira Henry Turner .... Possibly... EB who is buried in the Phillips Lot at the church?

Nancy Rools/Rolls that married John Turner about 1820 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; died in Tishomingo County Ms. in the 1850's. They had a daughter Nancy Turner who was 14 b. in TN., on the 1850 Census of Tishomingo Co., MS. I don't have anything else on her. They had a daughter Alderina (AKA Annette, Everline, Louisa etc) who went to Washington State after marring James F. Gosnell. After the death of both parents, Alderina and Nancy went to Missouri to live with an older married sister(?) and married in MO. Harold

Is it possible that Nancy's maiden name might have been "Rawls"? A lot of Rawls went from SC into MS with some families of Ford, Watson, Waters/Walters. Harold <[email protected]> wrote:Nancy Rools/Rolls that married John Turner about 1820 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; died in Tishomingo County Ms. in the 1850's. They had a daughter Nancy Turner who was 14 b. in TN., on the 1850 Census of Tishomingo Co., MS. I don't have anything else on her. They had a daughter Alderina (AKA Annette, Everline, Louisa etc) who went to Washington State after marring James F. Gosnell. After the death of both parents, Alderina and Nancy went to Missouri to live with an older married sister(?) and married in MO. Harold ==== TURNER Mailing List ==== Turner list website - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/t/turner.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Lisa Chatelain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I found Synthia L. Turner: her full name was Cynthia/Synthia Louise Turner b. 1844 in Tishomingo County MS. Her parents were:John Turner b. abt 1795 in SC., County unknown, and Nancy Rools/ Rolls born 1798/99 in Ireland. She married Joseph W. Gosnell. Harold Gosnell

I think that your Moses was brother to my Aaron Turner. I have a little on the children of Moses but have nothing but a birthdate of Thomas. Let me know if I can help. Anna Moseley

Beverly, We have both of these lines in our Turner DNA Project. The DNA does not match. I keep telling people, the DNA project works and will save you hours and hours of useless speculation on whether these pesky Turners can be related to another line. Go to our website and click on the word "Results" on the left of the screen. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~turnerdna/ If you use Internet Explorer, you can use the Edit function and then "Search" and put in the number 16042 for Henderson Turner's DNA signature. Then do the same thing and put in number 32001 which is for Robert Turner, father of Christopher. If you don't know how to use the search feature, simply scroll down the list and hunt for the Kit #16042 with oldest ancestor listed as Henderson Turner. It is in a bunch of white ones above our "Teal" group. You will see that Henderson Turner can not be descended from Robert's son Christopher Turner or any other line of Turners who are related to Robert. In fact, as I recall, Christopher Turner's estate is in York Co. records and his children are accounted for. Robert's Kit #32001 is much farther down the chart in a group of green ones. In order to be related, their string of numbers can not vary much. We have tentatively grouped Robert's line with two other ones. One we know for sure was in the same area as Robert in York Co., SC and the three markers that they differ on function together so they are very close. In this case, the information from standard genealogical research putting them in the same locality at the same time period suggests they are potentially related. We are constantly adding new members to document more lines. We particularly hope to have people join who can document their lines back to early ancestors in various locations because not only will it help them know what other lines in the area they might be related to, it will definitely show which ones they cannot be related to. Also, it will help other researchers who are simply at that brick wall trying to find where in say SC their Turner is from when he shows up on the 1850 Census in another state showing a birth in SC. That happened so often. South Carolina was a major migration route to populate the southwest. Our project has as it focus Turners who are believed to have their roots in the mid-Atlantic region of the American Colonies--primarily MD, VA, PA--and who then followed the Southern migration trail down through the Carolinas and then westward or those that went westward toward KY, or into TN etc. We have documented several immigrants into South Carolina. We limit the focus because that insures that those who participate are most apt to be helped. My role is strictly on a volunteer basis and I don't get a penny for getting people to join. I firmly believe that this works and will eventually help so many Turner researchers. We have one major exception to that focus and that is the line of Humphrey Turner of Scituate, MA. We specifically sought out a descendant of that line whose family stayed in New Enland. He is in the project because one branch of the Humphrey Turner line did emigrate to the VA/NC border area and there are bound to be some descendants floating around somewhere trying to find their connection. The tests will not prove who the parents or father of a particular person is. It will show you a group of Turners to which you can belong and probably as importantly can show you which group you CAN NOT be related to. In this search, that will save you hours and probably years of wasted time going down the wrong trail. Hope this will help and save you time wondering if your Henderson is a descendant of Christopher Turner, son of Robert Turner of York Co., SC. Gail R. Blancett Administrator Turner DNA Project

Harvey Turner born 1834 in Ohio ( Clinton Co I believe). Died 1881 Pike CO Illinois Susan A. Harnish Rockford Linear Actuation, Inc Phone:815-986-4407 Fax:815-986-4410 [email protected]