Lafe, thank you for your clarity. Allow me to point out how this sounds from another perspective: You must place yourself in the 1800's to understand how people felt about the the invaders. The predominate race was still Indian, but we were no longer dominant due to technology and lack of resistance to diseases, and we were being herded off our ancestral lands. Many of us still believe that our primary allegiance is to our own nations first, although we die for the conquerors in record numbers in their military services. I do not mean to be rude. It is all a matter of perspective. When you say "people felt about Indians" the implication is that the only "people" were Euro, and that we were not "people". It is something most folks in the dominant culture do without thinking. They mean no disrespect. Nor did I. I certainly didn't intend to "flame". If I have offended those here who do not welcome my perspective, which comes along with my information, I will shut up. Few places are as rife with racial "attitudes" as the genealogical boards where the majority think of us as marginal beings, not really "people". It is tough to even be here and read and read and not, occasionally, speak up. My mistake. Jan, I will contact you off list after I've had time to look up my references regarding the Nansemond. They are stored away right now. In a message dated 8/2/2004 8:02:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lanelson@execpc.com writes: > You must place yourself in the 1800's for a reference to how people felt > about Indians. > The predominate race was caucasian and they looked down their noses at other > ethnic groups (which many still do). > It has only been recently that we have considered all ethnic groups to be > AMERICAN. > > Lafe >

To the list: My ancestor, Clinton TUCKER, b. 1789 Lincoln Co. NC m. Rebecca Munday, moved first to AL then Warren Co TN. According to family stories he is supposed to be Cherokee, part Cherokee. I have been unable to identify his parents. I would love any hint of who they might be. And find out whether or not whether or not there is a Cherokee connection. According to census records there is a Samuel TUCKER in Lincoln Co NC area that would be the right age to be his father but so far I have not been able to make the connection. Thanks for any info Carol, http://community.webtv.net/carg/MYREALWORK Whatever befalls the earth Befalls the sons of the earth. ~Chief Seattle~

You must place yourself in the 1800's for a reference to how people felt about Indians. The predominate race was caucasian and they looked down their noses at other ethnic groups (which many still do). It has only been recently that we have considered all ethnic groups to be AMERICAN. Lafe ----- Original Message ----- From: "red" <red72@famvid.com> To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:35 AM Subject: [TUCKER-L] > I am really confused by all of this....what is wrong with having Indian > blood in your line. I have been searching for my Indian connection in my > Tucker line for the past three or four years and would be more than happy to > be able to finally figure out just exactly where it connects. > > Is it suppose to be considered a dirty thing? If we are that racial, that > much of bigot then I really feel sorry for us as a nation. I personally > feel that MY heritage, and my search for MY Indian blood should there be > some is a great thing and one to be proud of just like the English blood, > the German, and the Irish blood in my line. We are all part of different > backgrounds that make up Americans. NO ONE was born in America but the > Native American's and they were none other but the Native American Indians. > > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > Kathy Tucker Leigh, List Moderator kroseleigh@leighdesigns.us > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/TUCKER-L > TUCKER Family website at: http://www.usgennet.org/family/tucker/index.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm > >

I, too, have been looking for my Cherokee connection. I've been told that my great grandmother was full blood Cherokee and have connections on both sides, but can't find information. In my family, the Indian connection was always a source of pride, even more so than the English or whatever. Leslie red <red72@famvid.com> wrote: I am really confused by all of this....what is wrong with having Indian blood in your line. I have been searching for my Indian connection in my Tucker line for the past three or four years and would be more than happy to be able to finally figure out just exactly where it connects. Is it suppose to be considered a dirty thing? If we are that racial, that much of bigot then I really feel sorry for us as a nation. I personally feel that MY heritage, and my search for MY Indian blood should there be some is a great thing and one to be proud of just like the English blood, the German, and the Irish blood in my line. We are all part of different backgrounds that make up Americans. NO ONE was born in America but the Native American's and they were none other but the Native American Indians. ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== Kathy Tucker Leigh, List Moderator kroseleigh@leighdesigns.us http://archiver.rootsweb.com/TUCKER-L TUCKER Family website at: http://www.usgennet.org/family/tucker/index.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I am really confused by all of this....what is wrong with having Indian blood in your line. I have been searching for my Indian connection in my Tucker line for the past three or four years and would be more than happy to be able to finally figure out just exactly where it connects. Is it suppose to be considered a dirty thing? If we are that racial, that much of bigot then I really feel sorry for us as a nation. I personally feel that MY heritage, and my search for MY Indian blood should there be some is a great thing and one to be proud of just like the English blood, the German, and the Irish blood in my line. We are all part of different backgrounds that make up Americans. NO ONE was born in America but the Native American's and they were none other but the Native American Indians.

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 22:00:45 -0600 TUCKER-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: I could get ugly and say something about the way some people take things , BUT I didn't mean anything by the way I worded my message about the Tuckers might be Indian. So for those who are interested I'll post the following, again I was only trying to get to the truth of the genealogy of my Tucker family. George W. Tucker - Choctaw- enrollment, 43, m., 1/4%, Card # R 312. Cora Tucker- Cherokee - enrollment, 6 year old.,f, by blood, blood percent, full, card# 7864 Roll # 30498. On my George Washington Tucker b: March 25, 1838, d: Aug. 18, 1918, Marble Falls, Burnet Co.,Texas, married: Malindie Jane Johnston, b: March 27,1840, died: April 28, 1920, Marble Falls, Burnet Co.,Texas. Her father ---- Johnston , her mother: Elizabeth Hays. George Washington Tucker's father, George Washington Tucker married a Jones. I got this information on the parents off the death cert. Does this match what anyone else has? Thanks, Margie Kinser Karasek

Hi - No, since no flaming was intended let's all just forget about hurt feelings and all those other things that get in the way of sharing real information. It sounds to me that for once we are lucky to have people on the same list that may be able to help clear some cobwebs. Deannamail, if you know any more of the Capt. Robert Tucker connection, could you please post it here to the list? If he influenced the Nansemond people, and was influenced by, that could have a lot to do with so many branches of Tuckers claiming kinship. I really appreciate the information that's coming out here. Jan rwortham@flash.net writes: > I'm new to the board - 1) what is the Melungeon 2) but maybe more > important, I don't understand the comment about the Cherokee Woman thing -- being new > did I accidentally stumble into something that was already ongoing? Margie > had asked about an ancestor being on the Dawes rolls, I responded I had been > told we had Indian blood in our line & this could be my answer and Benny > indicated his line could be as well; is the problem the word "Indian" was used > rather than "Native American"? I've never felt shame in being told I have Indian > blood so feel at a loss as to why there was this response to the string I > tried to help on. >

Melungeons are a people traditionally thought to be White Northern European, Black African, and Red American Indian. However emerging evidence suggests that they are not only White, Black, or Indian, but a mixture of two or more of those ethnic groups, as well as an amalgamation that very likely includes the following Sixteenth and Seventeenth century Mediterranean peoples: Spanish, Portuguese, Turks, Berbers, Moors, Sephardic Jews, and others. Also there is evidence for including Seventeenth and Eighteenth century Black people from the Atlantic Coast of Africa, especially the Malange area of Angola, who came to America as indentured servants and slaves. Some of them obtained freedom, or were free by birth, and became part of the Melungeon mix. -----Original Message----- From: ROBERT WORTHAM [mailto:rwortham@flash.net] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 11:28 PM To: TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TUCKER-L] Melungeon & Cherokee Woman Response Two questions please I'm new to the board - 1) what is the Melungeon 2) but maybe more important, I don't understand the comment about the Cherokee Woman thing -- being new did I accidentally stumble into something that was already ongoing? Margie had asked about an ancestor being on the Dawes rolls, I responded I had been told we had Indian blood in our line & this could be my answer and Benny indicated his line could be as well; is the problem the word "Indian" was used rather than "Native American"? I've never felt shame in being told I have Indian blood so feel at a loss as to why there was this response to the string I tried to help on. ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== Kathy Tucker Leigh, List Moderator kroseleigh@leighdesigns.us http://archiver.rootsweb.com/TUCKER-L TUCKER Family website at: http://www.usgennet.org/family/tucker/index.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

"Tuckahoe" is an Algonquian word for the plant used by tribes of the coastal plains as a major food source. It only grows in freshwater marshes. The Cherokee are of Iroquoian linguistic stock; their language is vastly different from Algonquian languages. I've never known a Cherokee to claim "tuckaho" or "tuckahoe" as a Cherokee word or tribal band or clan name. "Tuckaho" isn't a word in the Cherokee language, according to my Cherokee-speaking friends. I've heard whites use the term referring to a tribe they were supposedly descended from, mostly on genealogical message boards. There is even a rootsweb list for people who think they descend from this non-existent tribe. The name is frequently linked to the "Melungeons" or called a "branch of the Cherokee". The ancestors these folks refer to were usually from West Virginia or New York. One person on one genealogical site stated that Tuckaho was another name for Pamunkey Indians who fled to West Virginia. This information would come as a surprise to the Pamunkey, who are still where they always were, in King William County, Virginia. Regarding the use of "Indians" vs "Native Americans", it's a personal preference thing that varies among various Native Nations and Native people. Our general preference is to be called by the name of our Nation rather than by a generic term that lumps Nations together. But I am speaking here of indigenous peoples ourselves, not those looking for ancestral links to indigenous peoples. On the other hand, the surname Tucker does appear on some Cherokee rolls in Oklahoma, or so I've been told. It's also a surname linked to the Nansemond in the 17th century, in which case it may have been taken on by Nansemond who were influenced by Capt. Robert Tucker. Hope this is somewhat helpful. In a message dated 7/31/2004 11:34:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PJF8468@aol.com writes: > My Tucker line is supposedly descended from the Tuckaho Indians, which > appears to be a branch of the Cherokee tribe. I used words like > "supposedly" and > "appears" because it's very hard to nail down solid proof. But I've come > across many Tucker descendents who have been told this very same thing. > Plus, my > mother's aunt remembered not being able to communicate with her grandmother, > > Leah (Tucker) Woodrum. Her grandfather stated that she was Tuckaho Indian, > etc. and didn't know English very well.

My Tucker line is supposedly descended from the Tuckaho Indians, which appears to be a branch of the Cherokee tribe. I used words like "supposedly" and "appears" because it's very hard to nail down solid proof. But I've come across many Tucker descendents who have been told this very same thing. Plus, my mother's aunt remembered not being able to communicate with her grandmother, Leah (Tucker) Woodrum. Her grandfather stated that she was Tuckaho Indian, etc. and didn't know English very well. I've enclosed my Tucker line below. I can't remember how long it's been since I posted it here. Paula in Millville, NJ Researching in NJ: Ford, Jones, Clark, Young, Forrest, Pease In WV: Buckland, Armstrong, Woodrum, Sims, Tucker Descendants of Achellis Tucker Generation No. 1 1. ACHELLIS1 TUCKER was born July 1829 in Virginia. He married LUCY ANN GARDNER July 11, 1850 in Kanawha County, Virginia. She was born Abt. 1832 in Virginia, and died Bef. 1900. More About ACHELLIS TUCKER and LUCY GARDNER: Marriage: July 11, 1850, Kanawha County, Virginia Children of ACHELLIS TUCKER and LUCY GARDNER are: i. VIRGINIA A2 TUCKER, b. Abt. 1852. 2. ii. LEAH ANNE TUCKER, b. February 25, 1853, Virginia; d. January 11, 1923, Mammoth (Kanawha), WV. iii. CHLOE A TUCKER, b. Abt. 1854. iv. MELVINA TUCKER, b. Abt. 1857. 3. v. WARREN OWEN? TUCKER, b. November 1857. vi. MARY F TUCKER, b. Abt. 1858. vii. WILLIAM A TUCKER, b. Abt. 1860; m. HANNAH ISABELLA WOODRUM, December 03, 1882, Kanawha County, Virginia; b. 1855. More About WILLIAM TUCKER and HANNAH WOODRUM: Marriage: December 03, 1882, Kanawha County, Virginia viii. RICHARD TUCKER, b. Abt. 1862. ix. EMILY TUCKER, b. Abt. 1865. x. KELLIS TUCKER, b. Abt. 1870. xi. FANNIE TUCKER, b. Abt. 1871. Generation No. 2 2. LEAH ANNE2 TUCKER (ACHELLIS1) was born February 25, 1853 in Virginia, and died January 11, 1923 in Mammoth (Kanawha), WV. She married WILLIAM WOODRUM August 12, 1877 in Kanawha County, Virginia, son of JOHN WOODRUM and MARY MARTIN. He was born April 01, 1853 in Virginia, and died January 11, 1928 in Kanawha County, WV. More About LEAH ANNE TUCKER: Burial: January 13, 1923, Big Mountain Cemetery, WV More About WILLIAM WOODRUM: Burial: January 12, 1928, Ward Cemetery, Ward, Kanawha Co, WV More About WILLIAM WOODRUM and LEAH TUCKER: Marriage: August 12, 1877, Kanawha County, Virginia Children of LEAH TUCKER and WILLIAM WOODRUM are: i. CHARLES O.3 WOODRUM, b. 1878. ii. THOMAS R. WOODRUM, b. July 1888, Kanawha County, WV; m. MAGGIE SCOTT, April 30, 1901, Kanawha County, Virginia. More About THOMAS WOODRUM and MAGGIE SCOTT: Marriage: April 30, 1901, Kanawha County, Virginia iii. RUTH MAE WOODRUM, b. May 26, 1880, Cedar Grove (Kanawha Co.), West Virginia; d. November 22, 1931, Harewood (Fayette Co.), West Virginia; m. JOHN MELVIN SIMS; b. June 06, 1875, Cedar Grove (Kanawha), West Virginia; d. August 19, 1961, Montgomery (Fayette), West Virginia. More About RUTH MAE WOODRUM: Burial: November 24, 1931, Ward Cemetery, Ward, Kanawha County, WV More About JOHN MELVIN SIMS: Burial: August 22, 1961, Highlawn Memorial Park, Oak Hill, Fayette Cty, WV iv. MAGGIE WOODRUM. v. LEAH WOODRUM. vi. MILDRED WOODRUM. 3. WARREN OWEN?2 TUCKER (ACHELLIS1) was born November 1857. He married ALMEDIA POORE 1880. She was born April 1861. More About WARREN TUCKER and ALMEDIA POORE: Marriage: 1880 Child of WARREN TUCKER and ALMEDIA POORE is: i. HANNAH3 TUCKER, b. July 1886.

Two questions please I'm new to the board - 1) what is the Melungeon 2) but maybe more important, I don't understand the comment about the Cherokee Woman thing -- being new did I accidentally stumble into something that was already ongoing? Margie had asked about an ancestor being on the Dawes rolls, I responded I had been told we had Indian blood in our line & this could be my answer and Benny indicated his line could be as well; is the problem the word "Indian" was used rather than "Native American"? I've never felt shame in being told I have Indian blood so feel at a loss as to why there was this response to the string I tried to help on.

There is also a Cherokee County inn Alabama. > > From: "Lafe Nelson" <lanelson@execpc.com> > Date: 2004/07/31 Sat AM 06:27:33 EDT > To: TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TUCKER-L] Cherokee woman response > > Cherokee County is in Georgia. The web site is: > http://www.cherokeega.com/ > > I do not know what the county is famous for. > > Lafe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Acltk2@aol.com> > To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:38 PM > Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] George W. Tucker > > > > > > What was Cherokee County famous for? And in what state? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm > > > > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > Kathy Tucker Leigh, List Moderator kroseleigh@leighdesigns.us > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/TUCKER-L > TUCKER Family website at: http://www.usgennet.org/family/tucker/index.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Cherokee County is in Georgia. The web site is: http://www.cherokeega.com/ I do not know what the county is famous for. Lafe ----- Original Message ----- From: <Acltk2@aol.com> To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] George W. Tucker > > What was Cherokee County famous for? And in what state? > > Thanks > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm > >

lanelson@execpc.com writes: > Please remember that if somone says in a derogatory manner, "He married a > Cherokee woman", the fact probably means that He married a white woman from > Cherokee COUNTY!. > You know, it's funny, Lafe, how practically every Tucker family I've ever run across has had that same family lore of an American Indian connection. I remember one time the members of our various tree limbs sending the email back and forth, fast and furious, trying to figure out where it would have fit in. We never did decide where it could work, and I think some of us were disappointed it wasn't our own ancestral son or daughter or the patriarch. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say something like that in a derogatory tone, so I guess that's why I don't read it that way. I'm wondering if the Tuckers ever interacted with the Melungeon contingent, and acquired the cheekbones that way. The cheekbones do seem a prominent feature for a lot of Tuckers. What was Cherokee County famous for? And in what state? Thanks

Please remember that if somone says in a derogatory manner, "He married a Cherokee woman", the fact probably means that He married a white woman from Cherokee COUNTY!. Lafe ----- Original Message ----- From: "benny britton" <b102@swbell.net> To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] George W. Tucker > Sandra, let me digest this info. > Strange you mention the indian blood issue. I have often thought my > grandmother, Tucker line, had high cheekbone features that made me wonder if > she also had indian blood. > Will try to put info together . > Thanks, > Benny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ROBERT WORTHAM" <rwortham@flash.net> > To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] George W. Tucker > > > > I've just recently subscribed to this and been intending to post my own > line to see if someone might help. Hope I'm doing this right to respond to > this query; feel free to tell me if I should do something differently. I am > only familiar with what I think might connect for you as I was pursuing > George Washington Tucker in Upshur Co, TX thinking he might be my line as > well. There is a Geo. Washington Tucker Sr. there who could be father to > your George? I found Geo & Malinda in 1870 Upshur Co tonight also in Gilmer > District where the other Geo is; was listed as a 32 yr old farmer from AL. > Malinda, 29, from Mississippi; Florence, 6, Mary, 4, E...?? can't make out 2 > yr old female's name. Though it turn out Geo Sr would not be my grt-grt-gf's > father as I 1st thought possible, if I do tie into this line somewhere as it > looks so likely with all the Upshur Co connections, etc, this will be very > interesting if yours are on the Dawes Rolls. I've always been told I had > Indian blood in my > > Bradshaw family and perhaps it's actually off the Tucker line of the > Bradshaws. > > > > Geo Sr. was b. 1810 in GA to Simeon and Nancy Dunn Tucker per the info > just recently shared with me. Geo's wife was Lucinda Jones. More of the > family was also in Upshur Co in the 1860-80 census reports. Geo Sr. is > buried in the Simpsonville Cemetery there in Upshur Co. He was in Upshur > 1870 & '80 census reports; was thinking I saw him in '60 as well but not > seeing that now. If your Geo. born 1838 turns out to be son of Geo Sr. I > have the info that the lady shared with me that goes back a ways. Sandra > > --- margie wrote: > > > I'm looking for information on a George > > > Washington Tucker b; 1838, I would > > > like to find out where he came from before > > > he came to Texas. He > > > married Malinda Jane Johns(t)on , b: 1840, > > >. > > > His father's name was G.W. Tucker also. Does > > > anyone have any thing on this > > > family? Any information would be a blessing. > > > > > > > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > > What hopes, what fears, what joys, what sorrows, once animated > > the bosoms of those millions, who now sleep in the dust. > > --by Rev. Cyrus W. Wallace, History of Manchester, NH 1856 > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, type in subject area "unsubscribe" send to: > TUCKER-L-request@rootsweb.com > or from Digest TUCKER-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >

Benny, My grandmother was also a Tucker and all of her children always said she was part Indian and that her hair was still coal black when she died in her 60's. But I have never been able to find a 'trail' to follow to see if she was. I can get no further back than her father. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "benny britton" <b102@swbell.net> To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] George W. Tucker > Sandra, let me digest this info. > Strange you mention the indian blood issue. I have often thought my > grandmother, Tucker line, had high cheekbone features that made me wonder if > she also had indian blood. > Will try to put info together . > Thanks, > Benny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ROBERT WORTHAM" <rwortham@flash.net> > To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] George W. Tucker > > > > I've just recently subscribed to this and been intending to post my own > line to see if someone might help. Hope I'm doing this right to respond to > this query; feel free to tell me if I should do something differently. I am > only familiar with what I think might connect for you as I was pursuing > George Washington Tucker in Upshur Co, TX thinking he might be my line as > well. There is a Geo. Washington Tucker Sr. there who could be father to > your George? I found Geo & Malinda in 1870 Upshur Co tonight also in Gilmer > District where the other Geo is; was listed as a 32 yr old farmer from AL. > Malinda, 29, from Mississippi; Florence, 6, Mary, 4, E...?? can't make out 2 > yr old female's name. Though it turn out Geo Sr would not be my grt-grt-gf's > father as I 1st thought possible, if I do tie into this line somewhere as it > looks so likely with all the Upshur Co connections, etc, this will be very > interesting if yours are on the Dawes Rolls. I've always been told I had > Indian blood in my > > Bradshaw family and perhaps it's actually off the Tucker line of the > Bradshaws. > > > > Geo Sr. was b. 1810 in GA to Simeon and Nancy Dunn Tucker per the info > just recently shared with me. Geo's wife was Lucinda Jones. More of the > family was also in Upshur Co in the 1860-80 census reports. Geo Sr. is > buried in the Simpsonville Cemetery there in Upshur Co. He was in Upshur > 1870 & '80 census reports; was thinking I saw him in '60 as well but not > seeing that now. If your Geo. born 1838 turns out to be son of Geo Sr. I > have the info that the lady shared with me that goes back a ways. Sandra > > --- margie wrote: > > > I'm looking for information on a George > > > Washington Tucker b; 1838, I would > > > like to find out where he came from before > > > he came to Texas. He > > > married Malinda Jane Johns(t)on , b: 1840, > > >. > > > His father's name was G.W. Tucker also. Does > > > anyone have any thing on this > > > family? Any information would be a blessing. > > > > > > > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > > What hopes, what fears, what joys, what sorrows, once animated > > the bosoms of those millions, who now sleep in the dust. > > --by Rev. Cyrus W. Wallace, History of Manchester, NH 1856 > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, type in subject area "unsubscribe" send to: > TUCKER-L-request@rootsweb.com > or from Digest TUCKER-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Sandra, let me digest this info. Strange you mention the indian blood issue. I have often thought my grandmother, Tucker line, had high cheekbone features that made me wonder if she also had indian blood. Will try to put info together . Thanks, Benny ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT WORTHAM" <rwortham@flash.net> To: <TUCKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] George W. Tucker > I've just recently subscribed to this and been intending to post my own line to see if someone might help. Hope I'm doing this right to respond to this query; feel free to tell me if I should do something differently. I am only familiar with what I think might connect for you as I was pursuing George Washington Tucker in Upshur Co, TX thinking he might be my line as well. There is a Geo. Washington Tucker Sr. there who could be father to your George? I found Geo & Malinda in 1870 Upshur Co tonight also in Gilmer District where the other Geo is; was listed as a 32 yr old farmer from AL. Malinda, 29, from Mississippi; Florence, 6, Mary, 4, E...?? can't make out 2 yr old female's name. Though it turn out Geo Sr would not be my grt-grt-gf's father as I 1st thought possible, if I do tie into this line somewhere as it looks so likely with all the Upshur Co connections, etc, this will be very interesting if yours are on the Dawes Rolls. I've always been told I had Indian blood in my > Bradshaw family and perhaps it's actually off the Tucker line of the Bradshaws. > > Geo Sr. was b. 1810 in GA to Simeon and Nancy Dunn Tucker per the info just recently shared with me. Geo's wife was Lucinda Jones. More of the family was also in Upshur Co in the 1860-80 census reports. Geo Sr. is buried in the Simpsonville Cemetery there in Upshur Co. He was in Upshur 1870 & '80 census reports; was thinking I saw him in '60 as well but not seeing that now. If your Geo. born 1838 turns out to be son of Geo Sr. I have the info that the lady shared with me that goes back a ways. Sandra > --- margie wrote: > > I'm looking for information on a George > > Washington Tucker b; 1838, I would > > like to find out where he came from before > > he came to Texas. He > > married Malinda Jane Johns(t)on , b: 1840, > >. > > His father's name was G.W. Tucker also. Does > > anyone have any thing on this > > family? Any information would be a blessing. > > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > What hopes, what fears, what joys, what sorrows, once animated > the bosoms of those millions, who now sleep in the dust. > --by Rev. Cyrus W. Wallace, History of Manchester, NH 1856 > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I've just recently subscribed to this and been intending to post my own line to see if someone might help. Hope I'm doing this right to respond to this query; feel free to tell me if I should do something differently. I am only familiar with what I think might connect for you as I was pursuing George Washington Tucker in Upshur Co, TX thinking he might be my line as well. There is a Geo. Washington Tucker Sr. there who could be father to your George? I found Geo & Malinda in 1870 Upshur Co tonight also in Gilmer District where the other Geo is; was listed as a 32 yr old farmer from AL. Malinda, 29, from Mississippi; Florence, 6, Mary, 4, E...?? can't make out 2 yr old female's name. Though it turn out Geo Sr would not be my grt-grt-gf's father as I 1st thought possible, if I do tie into this line somewhere as it looks so likely with all the Upshur Co connections, etc, this will be very interesting if yours are on the Dawes Rolls. I've always been told I had Indian blood in my Bradshaw family and perhaps it's actually off the Tucker line of the Bradshaws. Geo Sr. was b. 1810 in GA to Simeon and Nancy Dunn Tucker per the info just recently shared with me. Geo's wife was Lucinda Jones. More of the family was also in Upshur Co in the 1860-80 census reports. Geo Sr. is buried in the Simpsonville Cemetery there in Upshur Co. He was in Upshur 1870 & '80 census reports; was thinking I saw him in '60 as well but not seeing that now. If your Geo. born 1838 turns out to be son of Geo Sr. I have the info that the lady shared with me that goes back a ways. Sandra --- margie wrote: > I'm looking for information on a George > Washington Tucker b; 1838, I would > like to find out where he came from before > he came to Texas. He > married Malinda Jane Johns(t)on , b: 1840, >. > His father's name was G.W. Tucker also. Does > anyone have any thing on this > family? Any information would be a blessing.

I found this reference in the Bledsoe Co TN Court Records pg. 45 and 46: 9-9-1839 Cyntha Tucker vs George Tucker & William McCoy "It appears to the satisfaction of the Court that abt. the year 1836 the complainant was m. to the defendant George Tucker with whom she lived until abt 12 or 18 mos. past in the County of Marion in state of TN that abt that time he contracted an improper intimacy with one Adaline Bryson as charged in said bill with whom he committed the crime of adultery and with whom he eloped to parts unknown that on his marriage with Complainant he received by her considerable property and among such a Negro girl named Clarissa that is now in possession of with some other small articles also in her possession. It also appears defendant William McCoy is indebted to defendant Tucker and has of his effects in his hands upon this state of the case the Honorable Chancellor is pleased to order and does order adjudged and decree that the bond of matrimony between complainant and said George Tucker be and the same are dissolved and the said Cyntha restored to all the rights of a fine sale that all the right and title to said Negro girl Clarissa divested out of said George Tucker and vested in said Cyntha Tucker and her heirs forever and that she also have and enjoy as her own property all and every other article or articles of property in her possession belonging to said George Tucker as to the amount due him from the defendant William McCoy may have in his possession belonging to said George Tucker and that she be vested with the right thereto. It is further ordered and decreed that clerk and master ascertain the amount due by defendant McCoy to the defendant Tucker and report here of the next term of court and that he have power to call witnesses before him and their testimony take up on said inquiry. It is further ordered that defendants Tucker and McCoy pay costs of this case and that execution issue therefore at law." The case was dropped later due to the death of Cyntha Tucker. I'm still looking for my original notes on this but until then this is all the info I have. Mary Bell The 1850 census of Marion Co. TN finds Fanny Tucker age 14 living with Madison Bryson family, Robert Tucker age 8 living with Christopher Bible family, Synthia age 18 and Rebecca age 17 living with George Tucker family (too young to be parents) George Tucker age 11 living with Philip Bible family.

Their names might be in the Dawes Rolls if only one of them was Indian or part-Indian. The rolls contain denied applications as well as accepted ones, but you would have to look at the actual microfilm of their records to determine their status. These are at the National Archives sites and may be available through LDS Family History Centers (not sure, but worth checking.) There is usually a wealth of genealogical info in those applications since the whole point of the Dawes commission was to determine who, by ancestry, qualified for land and/or compensation. George and Malinda are in the 1900 census in Burnet Co. with dau and son-in-law and are listed as W (for White) but that doesn't mean much. --- margie <leo@centex.net> wrote: > I'm looking for information on a George > Washington Tucker b; 1838, I would > like to find out where he came from before > he came to Texas. He > married Malinda Jane Johns(t)on , b: 1840, > he is buried at Burnet > Co. Tx. No one seems to know anything > about them. One of my aunts > said that helost his land and moved to Cooke > Co.,Texas where she said THEY > took his land away from him again and he > just gave up. There is a > George W. Tucker and a Malinda Johnson > listed on the Dawes rolls > ,I'm wondering if they could be indian. The > only other thing I have heard > about him was he fought in the war and he > turned white headed over night. > His father's name was G.W. Tucker also. Does > anyone have any thing on this > family? Any information would be a blessing. > Thanks, > Margie Kinser Karasek > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TUCKER-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <TUCKER-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 9:00 AM > Subject: TUCKER-D Digest V04 #64 > > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > What hopes, what fears, what joys, what > sorrows, once animated > the bosoms of those millions, who now sleep in > the dust. > --by Rev. Cyrus W. Wallace, History of > Manchester, NH 1856 > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail