I have been reading the posts about the DAR and other organizations and thought I might put my 2 cents worth in. Back in the 1970's I was involved in my own local Gen Soc and also the DAR chapter in my ILL community. I have 5 pins and could apply for 3 more if I chose to. I am and always will be proud of my family. However I became disillusioned with the DAR because of certain elitist and exclusionary attitudes. It was easier back then to join because it was also easier to prove descendancy . They tightened up the rules and requirements because certain people were falsifying their proof of ancestry. So now you have to duplicate the work to show proof and this is a good thing. Just like in every other area of life there will be those who use unscrupulous methods to obtain what they want. I had later been asked to join the First Planters of VA .A more elitist group if thats possible. This is $300.00 to apply .You do not get it back whether accepted or not. I guess what I am trying to say is that I know who I am and I know where I came from. I don't need a pin nor piece of paper to tell me that. And then set me above others who also descend from our wonderful ancestors that fought for our nation and liberty.We fought to liberate this country from the Elitists . So I decided not to be an active member in the late 80's. There is more I would like to say but not on the list. If someone is interested they may write me privately.I personally think groups like the Lions and etc who do good works for the community are far more worthy of my time and effort.But this is only my opinion and in no way should be taken out of context. Pat

Does anyone have a connection to a line of Tuckers who moved from Ontario to Michigan? Descendants of George Tucker George Tucker b: Abt. 1770 d: Unknown +Louisa (Tucker) b: Abt. 1770 d: Unknown 2 [1] John Tucker b: April 29, 1801 in Canada d: January 24, 1891 in McGregor, Sanilac Co., MI +Roxana Paige b: October 09, 1809 in New York m: November 22, 1826 Father: John Paige Mother: Mehetabel HERRICK d: June 02, 1845 in Clayton Twp., Jefferson Co., NY *2nd Wife of [1] John Tucker: +Sally (Sarah) Swatrz b: May 12, 1819 in New York m: January 31, 1850 d: December 03, 1889 in Sanilac Co., MI I have a lot more information for those with a connection, Robert J. Nichol rjn

Walt, You can do both; you in the SAR Sons of the American Revolution and your daughters in the DAR Loney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tucker, Walt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question > > Can someone tell me more about the DAR? > > I have now documented several ancestors that fought in the revolutionary war (on the side of the > colonists, of course). What advantage is there to becoming a member? If males are not allowed, is > there a male counterpart, or should I skip myself enroll my daughters? > > -- Walt Tucker > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > What hopes, what fears, what joys, what sorrows, once animated > the bosoms of those millions, who now sleep in the dust. > --by Rev. Cyrus W. Wallace, History of Manchester, NH 1856 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

A person, might get in touch, with DAR, and ask if that is a good line, or not, and if they will except already proven lines. Jane McBride

I believe the purpose, of this might be, that the old records, have found to have errors in them. I could be wrong. A DAR member. Jane Bogard McBride

I believe that when DAR first came into being, there were not as many records, census, church records, vital records etc. to search. DAR has indeed asked for further proof on Ancestors being submitted today, some of them used the older applications for proof and they do not have enough to definitely prove there lineage, or service in the Revolutionary War. The DAR magazine has a column that shows some corrections needed for proof. Maybe your Library carries a copy of them , I believe most do. Some Chapters pay for them to be put in their Libraries for Reference purposes. Hope this helps some. Glenrose

on 3/4/02 8:15 PM, Mark Bramlette at [email protected] wrote: > Two years ago, a friend of mine found that the DAR didn't accept its own > records, Ugh! This sounds frighteningly similar to trying to get licensure from the Massachusetts Board of Education. Horrors. Carrie Tucker list moderator

Walt, The male group is called the SAR based in Louisville, KY. A large organization that even published a monthly newsletter. David

Mark, that is correct (duplicating the work). I had also heard about the possibility of having to redocument the line. All I can do is wait and see. The application and all the paperwork should now be on their way to national, as the local chapter has already approved it. I believe I also have a few other patriots, but I think I'll be in the same boat as Mary in trying to find the documentation. Kathy ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mark Bramlette" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:15:37 -0800 "In other words, if your grandmother was a member, you only have to document you and your parent. They don't make you duplicate work. " Two years ago, a friend of mine found that the DAR didn't accept its own records, in her line anyway, because some of DAR's earlier members were admitted without the careful scrutiny their records should have had. So, please be warned, there is a chance that DAR may ask you prove a line of descent that is supposedly already documented in their records. I cannot estimate whether than chance is large or small. Best wishes, Mark Bramlette member of Sons of the Revolution through descent from Corporal, later Colonel Isaac Greene and his son, Pvt. James Greene, of Warwick, Rhode Island, and working on joining the Sons of the American Revolution through descent from John Tucker and John Foster of Vermont ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Carrie Tucker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question > on 3/4/02 3:01 PM, Mary Hill at [email protected] wrote: > > > I am hoping that there may be some of you who have experience in applying ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== Carrie Tucker, List Moderator [email protected] http://archiver.rootsweb.com/TUCKER-L Kathy Leigh's TUCKER website at: http://www.usgennet.org/family/tucker/index.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Kathy Leigh ALHN State Host NH; State Co-host MA County host-Hampden, MA; Hillsborough, NH -Bent, Kiowa, Prowers, CO Topics-Revolutionary War, Colonial America, The Constitution _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Mary, I have just completed my application for DAR to join under my grandmother's membership. I had to provide my birth certificate, marriage certificate, my husband's birth cert., in addition to birth, marriage and death records back to and including my grandparents. On the DAR site, it lists suggested sources for documentation. The url is: http://www.dar.org/cgi-bin/natsociety/content.cfm?ID=93&hd=n&FO=Y I hope this helps some! Kathy Tucker Leigh ----Original Message Follows---- From: Tom and Carrie Tucker <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 18:46:20 -0500 on 3/4/02 3:01 PM, Mary Hill at [email protected] wrote: > I am hoping that there may be some of you who have experience in applying for > the DAR. > > I am interested in joining the DAR. > > I have proof of my parents, and my grandparents with some being bible records, > birth and death certificates. I have proof of my great-grandparents through > birth records and death records. > Now for my question. My great-grandfather is listed on an 1850 census where I > have his mother's name. On his death certicate her name is simply stated as > "Mrs. Taylor." I have no idea when she died, died in MS exact county unknown, > and there is no birth record in the form of bible or court records. I have no > exact record of when she married but can estimate by birth dates of children. > Her grandfather was a revoluntary war hero and is definately linked to him, > but legal documents I have none other than census records. Can letters from > now deceased family members be sufficient proof for linking this woman to her > grandfather? > > Best Regards, > Mary > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

For Walt Tucker and other men descended from Revolutionary soldiers: http://www.sar.org/ is the site of the Sons of the American Revolution. Quotation from that site: The purposes and objects of [this] corporation are declared to be patriotic, historical, and educational, and shall include those intended or designed to perpetuate the memory of the men who, by their services or sacrifices during the war of the American Revolution, achieved the independence of the American people. http://www.sr1776.org/ is the site of the Sons of the Revolution. Its membership requirements are, I think, more oriented toward military service in the cause of the American Revolution. In some places the chapters of the two societies have merged their activities. I joined Sons of the Revolution in Los Angeles. Now, in Las Vegas, I find that there is no SR chapter locally, so I am applying to join SAR. I am applying to SAR for different Patriot ancestors than qualified me for SR because my purpose is to make it easy for a different set of my cousins to join too. Quotation from the above site: The Society of the Sons of the Revolution has been instituted to perpetuate the memory of the men who, in military, naval or civil service, by their acts or counsel, achieved American Independence. Other related reasons are listed at that site. I don't know for sure whether your membership in SR or SAR would qualify your daughters for membership in DAR, but I would think so. I encourage you to join to support the purposes of these organizations and to enjoy the company of its members. You certainly would be welcome. Mark Bramlette (By the way, I think there is an organization for descendants of soldiers who fought against the Revolutionaries. I haven't had any interest it that one for myself since I don't have any Loyalist, or is it Royalist <wink>, ancestors that I know of, so I can't tell you more. I think some people belong to both organizations -- Revolutionary and Loyalist. I can understand that. My family fought on both sides of the Civil War/War betwen the States, although all the casualties I know of among my relatives were Confederate.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tucker, Walt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question Can someone tell me more about the DAR? I have now documented several ancestors that fought in the revolutionary war (on the side of the colonists, of course). What advantage is there to becoming a member? If males are not allowed, is there a male counterpart, or should I skip myself enroll my daughters? Walt Tucker

To those interested in William Tuckers of Georgia in the early 1800's. Please don't quit reading this too soon. After the listing of facts, I will try to relate all of this information at the bottom of this e-mail to the extent that I can. I am hopeful that some reader will have some solid proof of the correct identity of this 1820 Jasper Co., GA William Tucker and/or may have positively identified the 1830 Jasper William Tucker, the 1840 Jasper William Tucker, or the 1830 or 1840 Newton William Tucker. If so, please respond. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- On page 182-183 of the 1820 Jasper County, GA census, there is listed a William Tucker. He was apparently older than 26 and less than 45 years old, and his spouse was apparently also older than 26 and less than 45 years old as these were the oldest 2 persons in the household. In the household were the following persons, presumably their children: 3 boys less than 10 years old 2 boys at least 10 years old but less than 16 years old 3 girls less than 10 years old 3 girls at least 10 years old but less than 26 years old This census listed 4 persons engaged in agriculture. There were no slaves listed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Four lines below William Tucker's listing on the same page was one Samuel Thompson. Samuel Thompson was apparently of age 26 but less than 45 years old. His spouse was also apparently of age 26, but less than 45 years old. In the Thompson household were: One boy under 10 years old 1 boy at least 10 but under 16 years old 4 girls less than 10 years old 1 girl at least 10 years old but less than 16 years old There were 3 persons engaged in agriculture. There was one female slave less than 14 years of age in the household. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- On the next two lines below the listing of Samuel Thompson were the names John Dingler and Henry Dingler. John Dingler was in the 26 less than 45 age bracket, as was his presumed spouse. They apparently had 2 boys of age 10 but less than 16 years old and no girls. One person in agriculture, no slaves. Henry Dingler was in the 16 less than 26 age bracket as was his presumed spouse. They apparently had 1 boy under 10 and and one girl under 10. One person in agriculture, no slaves. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Another interesting name appears just 7 lines below the Dingler names, that of Obediah Belcher (or perhaps Obadiah Belcher). As per the 1820 census, this Obediah Belcher was over 45 years old. His spouse was apparently older than 16 and less than 45 years old. They had 3 boys under and one boy of 10 but less than 16 years old. Also in the household were 1 girl under 10, 2 girls of at least 10 but less than 16, and 2 girls of 16 but less than 26. There were 2 male slaves and 11 female slaves listed. The census says that 10 (could be 11) were engaged in agriculture. Some of the slaves were young, so this number engaged in agriculture probably included 3 or four of the family and 6 or 7 of the slaves. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Now for the main story. My gg grandfather, Daniel Peterson Tucker was born on October 22, 1810 at an unproved location, probably in Jasper County, GA. His father was presumably named William Tucker, perhaps William J. Tucker. Daniel Peterson Tucker married Wilmoth Lumsden Thompson, daughter of Samuel Thompson and Mary "Polly" Lumsden. There is quite a bit of information available about the Lumsden family ("Lumsden and Related Lines........," Virginia K. Preston, 1994, Jones & Grissom Printers, Macon, GA). There are also some Lumsden internet sites which have much of the same data. Anyway, the children of Samuel Thompson and Mary "Polly" Lumsden are well documented, and the birth dates are available. I do not have a documented birth date for Samuel Thompson, but a couple of sources suggest it was about 1780. This would make him 39-40 years old in 1820. Thanks to the Lumsden researchers, his his wife Mary "Polly" is known to have been 33 in 1820. Both of these values are properly within the range reported in the Jasper County, GA 1820 census. In 1820, they would have had boys age 3 and 14 and girls age 1, 4, 5/6, 9, and 11. This fits the census range perfectly. My conclusion is that this Samuel Thompson, is in fact, the father of Wilmoth Lumsden Thompson that married Daniel Peterson Tucker. According to "Jasper County Georgia Deed Books 3 & 4 (1810-1811)" by John Bruno, a William Tucker purchased a tract of unspecified size on the waters of Murder Creek in Lot 57 of the 15th District. This transaction took place on January 13th, 1811. Witnesses were Thomas Watts, William Hodge, and O. Belcher, JP. Though I do not have exactly the right map to pinpoint this tract, it is probably located about 3-5 miles west of Shady Dell, Georgia. I do not have any information about Thomas Watt. In what may be only a coincidence, Wilmoth Lumsden Thompson had a sister named Phebe Lumsden who married a John {not William} Hodge. Another coincidence is that Wilmoth Lumsden Thompson's maternal grandfather was named Obediah Belcher. Although the Obediah Belcher in the 1820 Jasper census is not her maternal grandfather, it is not too much of a stretch to think that it could be a cousin or other relative. >From Deed Book 6, page 251 and 252 of Jasper County, GA records: On December 21, 1811, Samuel Thompson bought 150 acres on the waters of Murder Creek in Lot 56 of the 15th District of Baldwin County GA {later Randolph, then Jasper County} from Jeremiah Lumsden {who is undoubtedly Samuel's father-in-law}. I assume that this tract is adjacent to Lot 57 of the 15th District mentioned above. Thus, we have a William Tucker and Samuel Thompson living in close proximity on the waters of Murder Creek. Daniel Peterson Tucker, the son of a William Tucker, and Wilmoth Lumsden Thompson, daughter of Samuel Thompson were later to marry. It seems very strong evidence that the William who owned land here in 1811 was the likely father of Daniel Peterson Tucker. Other land transactions by Jeremiah Lumsden can be used to essentially prove that this, in fact, was the Jeremiah Lumsden who was the grandfather of Wilmoth Lumsden Thompson as he at times sells land to two of his known sons, Jeremiah Lumsden Junior and John Lumsden. Jasper County Deed Book A, page 5 records that on March 11, 1822, John Dingler sold land on Murder Creek to William Tucker. This 50 acre parcel was part of Lot 56 in the 15th District of Baldwin, now Jasper County. Note that this tract is part of the same lot wherein Samuel Thompson owned acreage. Jasper County Deed Book B, page 321 records that William Tucker sold the 50 acres that was part of Lot 56, 15th District on August 27, 1824 to a Simeon Dearing. As per Jasper County Deed Book A, page 542, William Tucker purchased 85 acres in the 15th District from Jeremiah Lumsden on March 18, 1826. It is difficult to read the Lot number in the document, but it appears to reference Lot numbers 64 and 65 and either 56 or 57. This is still apparently in the same area as the Samuel Thompson land. I have little documentation of the relationship of the Dinglers and the Tuckers and it is more of a confusion to me than a help. There is a book called "Dinglers of the South," or something like that which may shed some light on this relationship but I have not researched this book. There was some land sales interaction between the Dinglers and the Lumsdens and also the Dinglers and the Tuckers. Jeremiah Lumsden bought 52 l/4 acres of land in Jasper County from from one William Dingler on December 30, 1811. The original recorded deed has been damaged by fire or other means to the point that it is not possible to tell exactly the Lot number of the land, though it may be Lot {ninety} five in the 15th district of Randolph {later Jasper) County. The purchase by William Tucker from John Dingler was mentioned previously. There is a Madison Tucker (1826-1910) whose father is named William Tucker. Both this William Tucker, (1783-1865) and son Madison are buried in the New Smyrna Presbyterian Campground Cemetery just southwest of Conyers, GA. This William married Delania Lindsay, who may have been a third wife. His sons are listed as Madison Butler Tucker (1826-1910), Green Tucker (ca 1827-1907), Thomas Tucker, Warren Tucker, and William Tucker {Jr}. No Daniel is listed by any source that I am aware of. On the other hand, it is said by some researchers that Madison was born near Shady Dell, Georgia. This is in the same general area as the William Tucker we have been discussing above, the one who lived adjacent to Samuel Thompson. This leads to some uncertainty, but assumption is that the father of Madison Tucker is not also the father of Daniel Peterson Tucker. According to "The Heritage of Rockdale County Georgia," Walsworth Publishing Company, page 206 and 207, Madison Tucker married Eveline Amanda Mitchell near Shady Dell, Georgia in December, 1847. It states that some time before the War between the States they moved to what is now Rockdale County {would have been part of Newton County at that time}. How do the Dinglers come in? I am not sure. One source tells me by e-mail that Henry Dingler's first wife was Biddie Tucker whom he married on February 11, 1817 in Jasper County, GA and that Biddie died on October 17, 1820. Henry then married one Sarah Edwards. According to the source, Henry Dingler's sister Milly married one Jeremiah Tucker. This source said that they were married by John Dingler, father of Henry and Milly. Who was Jeremiah Tucker? Apparently, this is thought to be one of a brother of William Tucker who was the father of Madison. The father of this William is thought to be Thomas Tucker, whose wife was Elizabeth Ashmore. Their children are listed as William Tucker, Margaret Tucker, Jeremiah Tucker, Sarah Tucker, Mary Tucker, Pointum Tucker, John Tucker, and Rody Tucker. Another researcher includes Biddie Tucker as a child of this Thomas. Biddie might be a nickname for one of the girls, I guess, or she may be another individual. It isn't clear if the John Dingler in the 1820 Jasper census is the father or the brother of Henry Dingler. The "Historical Collections of the Georgia Chapters National Society of DAR, 1926" lists under Morgan County, GA marriages during 1808 the marriage of John Dingler to Mary Tucker and the marriage of Jeremiah Tucker to Milly Dingler. This seems to suggest that this John Dingler was a brother of Milly. I guess this must Mary must have been the daughter of Thomas Tucker. Thus, three of the Dinglers and Tuckers married: John Dingler to Mary Tucker, Henry Dingler to Biddie Tucker, and Jeremiah Tucker to Milly Dingler. Although the Dinglers were in the same areas as the Tuckers in the 1820's, it is my thought that the Dinglers are most likely are related related to the Thomas Tucker > William Tucker >Madison Tucker line of Tuckers. It is my opinion that this group of Tuckers not related to the William Tucker > Daniel Peterson Tucker line unless at a generation prior to Thomas Tucker. But who knows? By 1830, Samuel Thompson and Daniel Peterson Tucker were in Newton County, GA, a matter which is easily proved by census and land records. The Newton County deed Book G page 342 shows that Daniel Peterson Tucker bought 54 l/2 acres from his father-in-law Samuel Thompson on September 25, 1843. This land was located in Lot 4 of the Eighth District of formerly Henry, now Newton County. As per Book G, page 344, he also bought 5 acres in Lot 4 of the Tenth District of Newton County from John Thompson, presumably the son of Samuel Thompson. Though in two different districts, these tracts adjoin. This land is southwest of Covington, GA, and not in the area where the William, father of Madison wound up settling. He did not retain it very long, as he sold it back to the Thompsons in 1844 (Deed Book G, page 485) and moved to Chambers County, Alabama. The 1830 Newton County census lists a William Tucker and a William D. Tucker. Based on the number of children and the projected ages, it seems unlikely, though not impossible, that the 1820 Jasper William Tucker is one and the same as the 1830 Newton William Tucker. I also think that the 1820 Jasper William is probably not the same as the 1830 Jasper William. The William D. Tucker in the 1830 Newton Co census says that he is of 20, under 30 years of age and his presumed spouse is in the same age range and no children were listed. Has anyone seriously researched these William Tuckers in Jasper and Newton Counties? I am pretty convinced that my ancestor was the William in the 1820 Jasper County census, but I can't be sure where he went by 1830. Do any of the descendants of the Thomas Tucker/William Tucker/Madison Tucker know for sure which Jasper/Newton censuses "their William Tucker" ties to? I apologize for the long e-mail, but it contains quite a bit of factual information and a bit of speculation. Does anyone have information on the subjects covered that they can comment on them, or identify one of the William Tuckers in the Jasper/Newton census from 1820-1850 even? Paul T.

Hi I would like to tell you that DAR National is on the website. Just put Daughters of the American Revolution, you can find out a lot of information on this site. A copy of your Revolutionary Patriot can be sent to you , I will try and pull it up and send you the exact address on the Web. I have been in DAR since 1984 so maybe I can help you some do not be afraid to ask me whatever you can think of in regards to where you might be able to find the proof, sometimes if you can not get the exact dates after searching etc. you can put unknown. I will get back to you on this address in just a little bit. glenrose

Dear Mary. I have recently been accepted in the DAR and possibly can help you. You will not be able to get birth certificates from the early years but it looks like you may have sufficient information that will get you in. You should go to a meeting of the DAR in your area and talk to the Registrar of that group. There is an application to fill out she can give you and, if you need help, she is the one can give you a lot of help. It took me 4 years of searching every place anyone told me to look, (church records, Hall of Records, mortuaries, ect) and finally got my information to get me in. You can find Land Holdings on records, the Mormon Church Geneology library is a good source for that. You need Wills and Probate notices. Anything that connects you to your GGGrandparents. It looks like you have a real good start. Good luck with your search. Claudia Turner P.S. I am a Tucker, too. What line do you come from? My early family came from Virginia. My GGGrandfather was Edward Sherrod Tucker, b 1777 in Appomatox Courthouse, Culpeper Co Va. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom and Carrie Tucker <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question > on 3/4/02 3:01 PM, Mary Hill at [email protected] wrote: > > > I am hoping that there may be some of you who have experience in applying for > > the DAR. > > > > I am interested in joining the DAR. > > > > I have proof of my parents, and my grandparents with some being bible records, > > birth and death certificates. I have proof of my great-grandparents through > > birth records and death records. > > Now for my question. My great-grandfather is listed on an 1850 census where I > > have his mother's name. On his death certicate her name is simply stated as > > "Mrs. Taylor." I have no idea when she died, died in MS exact county unknown, > > and there is no birth record in the form of bible or court records. I have no > > exact record of when she married but can estimate by birth dates of children. > > Her grandfather was a revoluntary war hero and is definately linked to him, > > but legal documents I have none other than census records. Can letters from > > now deceased family members be sufficient proof for linking this woman to her > > grandfather? > > > > Best Regards, > > Mary > > > > Mary, I believe the first thing you should do is check with the DAR. I > understand that you only have to document yourself from the undocumented > ancestors. In other words, if your revolutionary war ancestor has another > descendent who documented for DAR, you only have to document where you > branch off from that menber. In other words, if your grandmother was a > member, you only have to document you and your parent. They don't make you > duplicate work. You can submit a request on your ancestor, and they may > tell you that some of the work (the oldest stuff at that!) was done for you. > > My daughter will qualify for DAR once she's 18. She's only three, so I > still have time to get my act together! > > Good luck! > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > REMEMBER: Quote only the relative part of the message you are > replying to, not the entire message. This will help conserve > space on Rootsweb's servers. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

on 3/4/02 3:01 PM, Mary Hill at [email protected] wrote: > I am hoping that there may be some of you who have experience in applying for > the DAR. > > I am interested in joining the DAR. > > I have proof of my parents, and my grandparents with some being bible records, > birth and death certificates. I have proof of my great-grandparents through > birth records and death records. > Now for my question. My great-grandfather is listed on an 1850 census where I > have his mother's name. On his death certicate her name is simply stated as > "Mrs. Taylor." I have no idea when she died, died in MS exact county unknown, > and there is no birth record in the form of bible or court records. I have no > exact record of when she married but can estimate by birth dates of children. > Her grandfather was a revoluntary war hero and is definately linked to him, > but legal documents I have none other than census records. Can letters from > now deceased family members be sufficient proof for linking this woman to her > grandfather? > > Best Regards, > Mary > Mary, I believe the first thing you should do is check with the DAR. I understand that you only have to document yourself from the undocumented ancestors. In other words, if your revolutionary war ancestor has another descendent who documented for DAR, you only have to document where you branch off from that menber. In other words, if your grandmother was a member, you only have to document you and your parent. They don't make you duplicate work. You can submit a request on your ancestor, and they may tell you that some of the work (the oldest stuff at that!) was done for you. My daughter will qualify for DAR once she's 18. She's only three, so I still have time to get my act together! Good luck!

Can someone tell me more about the DAR? I have now documented several ancestors that fought in the revolutionary war (on the side of the colonists, of course). What advantage is there to becoming a member? If males are not allowed, is there a male counterpart, or should I skip myself enroll my daughters? -- Walt Tucker

Carrie, you probably saw my response to someone else on here that has helped me understand the DAR, but I no one in my family line is in the DAR. I will have to go all the way back. I just don't know what I could submit to prove beyond a doubt that my GG grandmother is the grand-daughter of the Patriot since I don't have a marriage record, birth record I can say abt. because she is on the 1850 census, but I have no death record and there is no bible record to indicate she is a descendant. Thanks for your input, Mary --- Tom and Carrie Tucker <[email protected]> wrote: > on 3/4/02 3:01 PM, Mary Hill at [email protected] wrote: > > > I am hoping that there may be some of you who have experience in applying for > > the DAR. > > > > I am interested in joining the DAR. > > > > I have proof of my parents, and my grandparents with some being bible records, > > birth and death certificates. I have proof of my great-grandparents through > > birth records and death records. > > Now for my question. My great-grandfather is listed on an 1850 census where I > > have his mother's name. On his death certicate her name is simply stated as > > "Mrs. Taylor." I have no idea when she died, died in MS exact county unknown, > > and there is no birth record in the form of bible or court records. I have no > > exact record of when she married but can estimate by birth dates of children. > > Her grandfather was a revoluntary war hero and is definately linked to him, > > but legal documents I have none other than census records. Can letters from > > now deceased family members be sufficient proof for linking this woman to her > > grandfather? > > > > Best Regards, > > Mary > > > > Mary, I believe the first thing you should do is check with the DAR. I > understand that you only have to document yourself from the undocumented > ancestors. In other words, if your revolutionary war ancestor has another > descendent who documented for DAR, you only have to document where you > branch off from that menber. In other words, if your grandmother was a > member, you only have to document you and your parent. They don't make you > duplicate work. You can submit a request on your ancestor, and they may > tell you that some of the work (the oldest stuff at that!) was done for you. > > My daughter will qualify for DAR once she's 18. She's only three, so I > still have time to get my act together! > > Good luck! > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > REMEMBER: Quote only the relative part of the message you are > replying to, not the entire message. This will help conserve > space on Rootsweb's servers. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== Researching: WEST/TUCKER/TAYLOR/GOBER/JAMES/FLEMING/REYNOLDS/WOMACK __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

Kathy, Thank you so much. I would assume by what you tell me that you can link up to the DAR because you come from the same line. I believe my Patriot is proven from a sibling of my GG grandmother and that is where I felt my problem would come. We know that are kin, just proving it by DAR standards. Mary --- Kathy Leigh <[email protected]> wrote: > Mary, > > I have just completed my application for DAR to join under my grandmother's > membership. I had to provide my birth certificate, marriage certificate, my > husband's birth cert., in addition to birth, marriage and death records back > to and including my grandparents. > > On the DAR site, it lists suggested sources for documentation. The url is: > > http://www.dar.org/cgi-bin/natsociety/content.cfm?ID=93&hd=n&FO=Y > > I hope this helps some! > > Kathy Tucker Leigh > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Tom and Carrie Tucker <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question > Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 18:46:20 -0500 > > on 3/4/02 3:01 PM, Mary Hill at [email protected] wrote: > > > I am hoping that there may be some of you who have experience in applying > for > > the DAR. > > > > I am interested in joining the DAR. > > > > I have proof of my parents, and my grandparents with some being bible > records, > > birth and death certificates. I have proof of my great-grandparents > through > > birth records and death records. > > Now for my question. My great-grandfather is listed on an 1850 census > where I > > have his mother's name. On his death certicate her name is simply stated > as > > "Mrs. Taylor." I have no idea when she died, died in MS exact county > unknown, > > and there is no birth record in the form of bible or court records. I > have no > > exact record of when she married but can estimate by birth dates of > children. > > Her grandfather was a revoluntary war hero and is definately linked to > him, > > but legal documents I have none other than census records. Can letters > from > > now deceased family members be sufficient proof for linking this woman to > her > > grandfather? > > > > Best Regards, > > Mary > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ==== TUCKER Mailing List ==== > Carrie Tucker, List Moderator [email protected] > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/TUCKER-L > Kathy Leigh's TUCKER website at: http://www.usgennet.org/family/tucker/index.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== Researching: WEST/TUCKER/TAYLOR/GOBER/JAMES/FLEMING/REYNOLDS/WOMACK __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

"In other words, if your grandmother was a member, you only have to document you and your parent. They don't make you duplicate work. " Two years ago, a friend of mine found that the DAR didn't accept its own records, in her line anyway, because some of DAR's earlier members were admitted without the careful scrutiny their records should have had. So, please be warned, there is a chance that DAR may ask you prove a line of descent that is supposedly already documented in their records. I cannot estimate whether than chance is large or small. Best wishes, Mark Bramlette member of Sons of the Revolution through descent from Corporal, later Colonel Isaac Greene and his son, Pvt. James Greene, of Warwick, Rhode Island, and working on joining the Sons of the American Revolution through descent from John Tucker and John Foster of Vermont ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Carrie Tucker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: [TUCKER-L] DAR Question > on 3/4/02 3:01 PM, Mary Hill at [email protected] wrote: > > > I am hoping that there may be some of you who have experience in applying

Thank you very much for the note. Glenrose