David you sites are also going to need raw material, not just a site to off site link. Off site links change daily and then become broken links. Ancestry is a part of Rootsweb and I feel that links to Family Search is a great idea too. It is the link to the the other project, that we do not want. We will get slammed for using their archives. Creat out own archives work that direction. I have taken my sleeping pill and not sure I am making sense. -- Tschüß, Gail "Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."