Velma Gladys Pruitt born 1908 Thackerville, south of Ardmore, Oklahoma Grandpa Pruitt died in Ardmore in 1917 in an accident while building the new courthouse. After grandpa was killed, grandma married a Love. Her marriages did not last as she married six times. Her last husband was a Root of the huge Brown and Root Construction Company. At one time in the 1980s I worked for that company in Alaska. Small world. don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:38:25 PM Subject: Re: [TTTP] Learned something What was your mother's name? g On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:33 PM, donkelly <[email protected]> wrote: > Floy Mable Beebe born 1877 Belton, MO just south of Kansas City. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:38:35 PM > Subject: Re: [TTTP] Learned something > > What was your grandmother's maiden name? > > g > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:03 PM, donkelly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Not my grandfather Henry Pruitt apparently as he according to grandma was > a > > workaholic, but his Pruitt brothers and counsins were a rowdy bunch > around > > Ardmore and locals. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:34:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [TTTP] Learned something > > > > Thackerville is Chickasaw. The Loves and Stewarts were from > Thackerville. > > Off the top of my head, but if it is not Garvin Co. it is probably Love > > Co. > > > > g > > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Billie Walsh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > For the most part whites were not allowed to "settle" in Indian > > > Territory by law. They could visit but they weren't allowed to live > > > there unless they had a tie to the Indians, like married to an Indian > > > woman/man. The Chickasaw were one of the "Five Civilized Tribes". I > > > don't know to much of the Chickasaw history, but I assume it parallels > > > the Cherokee fairly well. Probably by the late 1800's there were a lot > > > of very well [ college ] educated people in the nation. About the only > > > thing they lacked was a written language of their own. The Cherokee > were > > > the only ones I know of that did. > > > > > > If she was born in the Chickasaw nation it's very probable she was > > > Chickasaw. But, there is a chance she could have been Choctaw, Cherokee > > > or any other tribe. There are instances of someone from one nation > > > living in another. Also many instances of, say, a Choctaw marrying a > > > Chickasaw. > > > > > > On 10/20/2011 05:52 PM, donkelly wrote: > > > > Also of interest is the 1895 map of the area. There were an > astounding > > > number of labeled towns in the Chickasas Nation. > > > > > > > > Can I assume that most of those towns were built by Indians, OR did > the > > > Indians allow white people to come in and build the towns? > > > > > > > > don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "donkelly"<[email protected]> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:37:55 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [TTTP] Learned something > > > > > > > > Mom was born outside the nearest fair size town north of Texas. That > > > would be the closest Indian territory to the border with Texas. Mom > > didn't > > > mention Cherokee, but she did often mention Chickasas. > > > > > > > > don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Billie Walsh"<[email protected]> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:45:51 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [TTTP] Learned something > > > > > > > > Henry may not have been part Indian. From my reading it's pretty > > obvious > > > > that by 1900 it was pretty hard to find a lot of full blood > Cherokees. > > I > > > > don't know that much about the other four "civilized tribes" [ or > other > > > > nations either ], but the Cherokees were mostly mixed blood. I > suspect > > > > it was very common by 1900 to be of mixed blood in most > tribes/nations. > > > > Remember also that during that time it was very unfashionable to be > > > > "Indian". Many that could pass as white preferred not to admit Indian > > > > blood. Vehemently denied it in fact. Large numbers of mixed blood, as > > > > well as full blood, people denied their heritage and avoided the > Dawes > > > > Commission. > > > > > > > > On 10/20/2011 03:48 PM, donkelly wrote: > > > >> My mother Velma Gladys Pruitt was born in Oklahoma 1908 just after > > > statehood. She always said it was Indian territory, and though grandma > > > Pruitt was part Indian, no evidence has been presented to show that her > > > husband Henry Pruitt from Kentucky was part Indian. Another family > > mystery. > > > >> > > > >> don > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Billie Walsh"<[email protected]> > > > >> To: [email protected] > > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:40:24 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [TTTP] Learned something > > > >> > > > >> December of 1905: > > > >> > > > >> I recommend that Indian Territory and Oklahoma be admitted as one > > state > > > >> and that New Mexico and Arizona be admitted as one state. There is > no > > > >> obligation upon, us to treat territorial subdivisions. of > convenience > > > >> only, as binding us on the question of admission to statehood. > Nothing > > > >> has taken up more time in the congress during the past few years > than > > > >> the question as to the statehood to be granted to the four > territories > > > >> above mentioned, and after careful consideration of all that has > been > > > >> developed in the discussion of the question, I recommend that they > be > > > >> immediately admitted as two states. There is no justification for > > > >> further delay, and the advisability of making the four territories > > into > > > >> two states has been clearly established. ---Theodore Roosevelt. > > > >> > > > >> On 10/20/2011 10:55 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > > > >>> I never knew that at the time of the debate over admitting Oklahoma > > and > > > >>> Sequoyah as separate states or a single state, there was also talk > of > > > >>> combining Arizona and New Mexico territories as one state. Seems > that > > > >>> some of the congress critters of the day thought that was a good > > idea. > > > >>> Not a very popular idea back in those two territories. > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. > > > Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - > > > > > > _ _... ..._ _ > > > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tschüß, > > Gail > > "Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter > > and those who matter don't mind." > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Tschüß, > Gail > "Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Tschüß, Gail "Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message