Wonderful to have you aboard, Charlie. I know you have a wealth of info. This is a fun group to belong to. Fran in Fl In a message dated 7/5/2012 2:47:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bilwalsh@swbell.net writes: Give a warm Trails welcome to our new member, Charlie Vines. He will be heading up the Trails To The Past United States Territories Project, at least building the sites for each territory and, I believe, is adopting some counties in Texas -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Welcome, Charlie! Enjoy your journey with us! Jen Breckenridge, CO http://ancestralbreezes.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM, James Albro <albroj@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hello Charles, and welcome..... > > Jim in Florida > www.albrogenealogy.com > > On 7/5/2012 2:42 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > > Give a warm Trails welcome to our new member, Charlie Vines. He will be > > heading up the Trails To The Past United States Territories Project, at > > least building the sites for each territory and, I believe, is adopting > > some counties in Texas > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Jen* *Will you help me fight to end breast cancer forever? Ask me how to make a donation to any of the major, national organizations raising money to find a cure. Support me as I walk, snowshoe, snowboard, and anything else I can do to end this. I want my daughter to read about it in a history book - not in her medical chart. *

Give a warm Trails welcome to our new member, Charlie Vines. He will be heading up the Trails To The Past United States Territories Project, at least building the sites for each territory and, I believe, is adopting some counties in Texas -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Great news. We are slowly filling the bases. Now we need a home run. Don -------Original Message------- From: Billie Walsh Date: 7/5/2012 11:47:29 AM To: Trails To The Past Subject: [TTTP] New Member Give a warm Trails welcome to our new member, Charlie Vines. He will be Heading up the Trails To The Past United States Territories Project, at Least building the sites for each territory and, I believe, is adopting Some counties in Texas -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain The people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the Government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Charlie and welcome to Trails.. we hope you find your new home an enjoyable one. Please tell us a little about yourself and your interests. Gail On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > Give a warm Trails welcome to our new member, Charlie Vines. He will be > heading up the Trails To The Past United States Territories Project, at > least building the sites for each territory and, I believe, is adopting > some counties in Texas > > -- > “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain > the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the > government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. > > - Patrick Henry - > > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > --

This company is doing human anatomy stuff, not maps anymore. David On 6/28/2012 10:02 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > I'm not sure how to figure that one. Would changing something in the > title. Maps are maps for the most part but they do change slightly all > the time. Roads get built/moved, all kinds of little changes. Would a > book of maps from 1956 be the same as a similar book from 1965. I guess > you could always use them and if they squawk take them down. There's an > old saying, "It's always easier to beg forgiveness than to ask > permission." *<]:oD > > On 06/28/2012 08:17 AM, Jeanne Hicks wrote: >> I found this book at a thrift shop, thinking that even if I cannot >> use the entire book, I could at least use parts of it. But I wanted >> to check the copyright on the book, just the same. >> >> The book is entitled Our United States ... Its History in Maps By >> Edgar B Wesley Stanford University University of Minnesota Published >> by Denoyer-Geppert Company Copyright 1956 by Denoyer-Geppert Company >> First Edition Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: Map 56-1 >> Second Printing 1957 >> >> Okay, so I went to the website Billie told us about to check if a >> publication was still in copyright. Using the LOC number, nothing >> comes up, but if you type in the title (I always try several >> different ways, just in case...), It is one of 1450 books by the >> Denoyer-Geppert Company in copyright from 1965, plus the title is >> slightly different -- instead of the three dots, it is a colon. >> >> So, is this still in copyright? Is the copyright on the same book? >> >> Anyone have any ideas? >> >> Btw, credit for several of the maps it contains are to the National >> Park Service, so I will get these scanned for use. I cannot use all >> of them, but I'm sure that someone else can! >> >> Jeanne/jmh > > >

I'm not sure how to figure that one. Would changing something in the title. Maps are maps for the most part but they do change slightly all the time. Roads get built/moved, all kinds of little changes. Would a book of maps from 1956 be the same as a similar book from 1965. I guess you could always use them and if they squawk take them down. There's an old saying, "It's always easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission." *<]:oD On 06/28/2012 08:17 AM, Jeanne Hicks wrote: > I found this book at a thrift shop, thinking that even if I cannot > use the entire book, I could at least use parts of it. But I wanted > to check the copyright on the book, just the same. > > The book is entitled Our United States ... Its History in Maps By > Edgar B Wesley Stanford University University of Minnesota Published > by Denoyer-Geppert Company Copyright 1956 by Denoyer-Geppert Company > First Edition Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: Map 56-1 > Second Printing 1957 > > Okay, so I went to the website Billie told us about to check if a > publication was still in copyright. Using the LOC number, nothing > comes up, but if you type in the title (I always try several > different ways, just in case...), It is one of 1450 books by the > Denoyer-Geppert Company in copyright from 1965, plus the title is > slightly different -- instead of the three dots, it is a colon. > > So, is this still in copyright? Is the copyright on the same book? > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Btw, credit for several of the maps it contains are to the National > Park Service, so I will get these scanned for use. I cannot use all > of them, but I'm sure that someone else can! > > Jeanne/jmh -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I read them and if I had something to offer I would certainly offer it. Most of the time I don't have any answer so refrain from offering that. On 06/28/2012 02:51 AM, Gail Kilgore wrote: > We are over 1,000 obituaries and I had another volunteer to load gravestone > photographs to the colorado gravestone project and has accepted coordinator > over two counties. I was also contacted by a Eagle Scout who will do his > project photographing and transcribing a cemetery in one of the northern > counties in Colorado. > > When I send these queries to the mail list, is anyone answering them or > should I not send the info to the list? > > Gail > > -- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I found this book at a thrift shop, thinking that even if I cannot use the entire book, I could at least use parts of it. But I wanted to check the copyright on the book, just the same. The book is entitled Our United States ... Its History in Maps By Edgar B Wesley Stanford University University of Minnesota Published by Denoyer-Geppert Company Copyright 1956 by Denoyer-Geppert Company First Edition Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: Map 56-1 Second Printing 1957 Okay, so I went to the website Billie told us about to check if a publication was still in copyright. Using the LOC number, nothing comes up, but if you type in the title (I always try several different ways, just in case...), It is one of 1450 books by the Denoyer-Geppert Company in copyright from 1965, plus the title is slightly different -- instead of the three dots, it is a colon. So, is this still in copyright? Is the copyright on the same book? Anyone have any ideas? Btw, credit for several of the maps it contains are to the National Park Service, so I will get these scanned for use. I cannot use all of them, but I'm sure that someone else can! Jeanne/jmh

I think it is wonderful that more people are joining us. Jeanne/jmh --- On Thu, 6/28/12, Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> > Subject: [TTTP] Colorado > To: "tttp" <tttp@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 3:51 AM > We are over 1,000 obituaries and I > had another volunteer to load gravestone > photographs to the colorado gravestone project and has > accepted coordinator > over two counties.  I was also contacted by a Eagle > Scout who will do his > project photographing and transcribing a cemetery in one of > the northern > counties in Colorado. > > When I send these queries to the mail list, is anyone > answering them or > should I not send the info to the list? > > Gail > > -- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

We are over 1,000 obituaries and I had another volunteer to load gravestone photographs to the colorado gravestone project and has accepted coordinator over two counties. I was also contacted by a Eagle Scout who will do his project photographing and transcribing a cemetery in one of the northern counties in Colorado. When I send these queries to the mail list, is anyone answering them or should I not send the info to the list? Gail --

I hope they get a lot of rain- not buckets, but a lot to put out the fires. -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:31 PM To: TTTP Subject: [TTTP] Fire reach AFA On Wednesday afternoon, academy officials said the fire had spread to about 10 acres of the campus. Some 2,100 people were evacuated from base housing overnight. Firefighters from the Air Force and local crews were trying to stop the blaze reaching the academy. straight off CNN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I need the emigrant trails logo.  will someone send it to me Jeannie in KY.  From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: tttp <tttp@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:24 PM Subject: [TTTP] Fwd: information on Indian tribes ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cyndee Edwards <cyndee.edwards@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM Subject: information on Indian tribes To: "gail.kilgore@gmail.com" <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> Cyndee Edwards 14956 SE Stark street Portland,Oregon 97233 cyndee.edwards@yahoo.com   To whom it may concern: I have been checking and finding my ancestors , They are on my moms side of the family, we are trying to find which part of the Tucker Family that has the starting line of the Blackfeet American Indian that we have. I would be 1/8 Blackfeet. Unsure how I can find out. My moms name is Suzanne Tucker, her dads name is Bruce Archibald Tucker(he is my grandfather),Born in Canada in1913: my great grandfathers name is Bruce Wayne Tucker born in Boulder Colorado in 1886: great great grandfather is Millard Fillmore Tucker born in 1853 in Rhode Island : my great great great grandfather is Thomas .H. Tucker born in 1827 in New York.. I have checked the Blackfeet nation and there are Tuckers on the Ancestors list, Hope you can help me answer all these questions? Any help would do great for me and the rest of my family.. Sincerely: Cyndee Edwards -- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wednesday afternoon, academy officials said the fire had spread to about 10 acres of the campus. Some 2,100 people were evacuated from base housing overnight. Firefighters from the Air Force and local crews were trying to stop the blaze reaching the academy. straight off CNN

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cyndee Edwards <cyndee.edwards@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM Subject: information on Indian tribes To: "gail.kilgore@gmail.com" <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> Cyndee Edwards 14956 SE Stark street Portland,Oregon 97233 cyndee.edwards@yahoo.com To whom it may concern: I have been checking and finding my ancestors , They are on my moms side of the family, we are trying to find which part of the Tucker Family that has the starting line of the Blackfeet American Indian that we have. I would be 1/8 Blackfeet. Unsure how I can find out. My moms name is Suzanne Tucker, her dads name is Bruce Archibald Tucker(he is my grandfather),Born in Canada in1913: my great grandfathers name is Bruce Wayne Tucker born in Boulder Colorado in 1886: great great grandfather is Millard Fillmore Tucker born in 1853 in Rhode Island : my great great great grandfather is Thomas .H. Tucker born in 1827 in New York.. I have checked the Blackfeet nation and there are Tuckers on the Ancestors list, Hope you can help me answer all these questions? Any help would do great for me and the rest of my family.. Sincerely: Cyndee Edwards --

Incredible! Alice On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:31 PM, W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: > On Wednesday afternoon, academy officials said the fire had spread to > about 10 acres of the campus. Some 2,100 people were evacuated from base > housing overnight. > > Firefighters from the Air Force and local crews were trying to stop the > blaze reaching the academy. > > > straight off CNN > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Getting awfully close to my folks' old home in West Colorado Springs. Their house was on N. 17th St., between Uintah & Colorado Avenue. The assisted living facility they spent the last 9 months of their lives at is on 21st, between Colorado Ave. & I suppose Hwy 24. They could see Pikes Peak from their kitchen window. So devastating. Alice On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Colleen <ladyaudris@earthlink.net> wrote: > The West side of Colorado Springs is on fire -- west of I25.  The Air > Force Academy has been evacuated.  Many homes in the Mountain Shadows > housing area are burning -- many of them.  Flying W Ranch is gone. > > Southbound I-25 is closed at Interquest Parkway.  Highway 24 has been > closed since Friday from Manitou to Woodland. > > We're about 30 miles south of the fire, so we're safe, but the smoke is > HEAVY. > > This is so, so devastating.... > > To see some of the pictures or view footage, go to koaa.com, kktv.com, > krdo.com, gazette.com .  Denver has a news team down here but I don't > know the call letters. > > Colorado Springs is on fire... > Colleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't give it a thought, just know that our heartfelt prayers are with you. We all are just one moment away from tragedy. I just can't imagine what it must be like. Stuff can be replaced, hard as it may seem at the time, but, thank God that you are safe. J Jim in Florida www.albrogenealogy.com On 6/27/2012 3:41 PM, Gail Kilgore wrote: > My friend in Nathrop who also has a summer place there where we do. > > g > I want to apologize to everyone for being such a drama queen. I was so > tired after the hot drive from Nathrop to the Springs. Took 3 hours > because Hwy. 24 is closed. When I arrived my son had already taken his > family to Castle Rock to his mother in laws place. They were having > problems with their asthma. He then came back to the Springs and helped me > pack . I made it to my mother's at 2AM and of course didn't sleep until > 5AM. My son and I parked on the side of the road and watched homes burn. > One of our favorite places "Flying W Ranch" burned down as did our church > that was built by the owners of the Ranch. An apartment my son lived in > when his first baby was born also burned. It is just unbelievable. I am > thankful no one has been hurt. > Again, I apologize for coming off like it was all about me because I sure > didn't mean to. I was just in shock. > ~Nancy~in Denver. > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fires, fires, fires 3 new ones in Utah, all exploding and already over 1,000 Evacuations ordered for 3 towns and cities New Harmony fire Entire New Harmony, northeast of St. George, evac to Kanarraville and about to be evac elsewhere because fire jumped I-15, forcing a different evac route to Highway 91 in Kanarraville. Human-caused. Clay Springs Fire 1,000 acres 4 miles south of Oak City, moving north to northeast direction toward Oak City. Entire town (850 residents) ordered evacuated. Cause unknown but witnesses say cig thrown from passing car (Oak City is next to I-15) Pole Creek Fire 8 miles north of Neola caused by fireworks, it's near Roosevelt, on Uintah Ouray Agency of Ute Indian Reservation. Seeley Fire 19,000 acres, by lightning Entire Town of Scofield, including large Scout camps (there are Girls Scouts known as Mia This is one across Highway 89 from Wood Hollow Fire which is now at least 46,190 acres. 300 Scouts evacuated from Scofield camp, communities evacuated from Clear Creek, Wattis. LDS girls evacuated from LDS Girls' Mia Camp Shalom at Miller's Flat which is closest to the fire. Skyline Coal Mine is evacuated, too. It's one of larger underground coal mines, owned by Arch Coal, which is 2nd largest coal company in USA (mind you, this is same company practicing mountain top removal in West Virginia) Church Camp Fire near Duchesne, 4,000 acres Wood Hollow Fire just 1 mile east of Fountain Green. It's right west of Fairview. Fire is very visible from Moroni, Wales, Mount Pleasant, Fairview, Spring City and Manti. It's on the range west of the Sanpete Valley where these cities are located. Evacuations already underway in Indianola and all communites within the fire zone. http://inciweb.org/incident/2942/ shows one run licking Highway 89 in two places and south run trying for city of Fairview. Highway 89 from Utah/Sanmpete County in north to Mount Pleasant is closed. Access only from Highway 28 from Nephi to get to Manti, from north. best map to see where the highways are located. The fire is just west of Indianola and Fairfiew, east of Fountain Green, north of Moroni. David S.

Abt 2 this morning, I heard two large explosions the last one so hard the windows shook. I could see red flashing lights on I-10 and what looked like fire but can't find anything to say there was something. Guess it could have been a sonic boom, but two of them? We thought we had a fire over the ridge north of us but the smoke seems to have died down. That would have been on the reservation. Now we are getting hit with one of those famous dust storms.... that roll into Phoenix in a huge wall of dirt... we are in the storm right now.. AND it is thundering.....maybe we will get a drop or two of rain... something that is unusal for AZ. g On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:14 PM, W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com>wrote: > Fires, fires, fires > > 3 new ones in Utah, all exploding and already over 1,000 > > Evacuations ordered for 3 towns and cities > > New Harmony fire > Entire New Harmony, northeast of St. George, evac to Kanarraville and > about to be evac elsewhere because fire jumped I-15, forcing a different > evac route to Highway 91 in Kanarraville. Human-caused. > > Clay Springs Fire > 1,000 acres > 4 miles south of Oak City, moving north to northeast direction toward > Oak City. Entire town (850 residents) ordered evacuated. Cause unknown > but witnesses say cig thrown from passing car (Oak City is next to I-15) > > Pole Creek Fire > 8 miles north of Neola > caused by fireworks, it's near Roosevelt, on Uintah Ouray Agency of Ute > Indian Reservation. > > Seeley Fire > 19,000 acres, by lightning > Entire Town of Scofield, including large Scout camps (there are Girls > Scouts known as Mia This is one across Highway 89 from Wood Hollow Fire > which is now at least 46,190 acres. 300 Scouts evacuated from Scofield > camp, communities evacuated from Clear Creek, Wattis. LDS girls > evacuated from LDS Girls' Mia Camp Shalom at Miller's Flat which is > closest to the fire. Skyline Coal Mine is evacuated, too. It's one of > larger underground coal mines, owned by Arch Coal, which is 2nd largest > coal company in USA (mind you, this is same company practicing mountain > top removal in West Virginia) > > Church Camp Fire > near Duchesne, 4,000 acres > > Wood Hollow Fire > just 1 mile east of Fountain Green. It's right west of Fairview. Fire is > very visible from Moroni, Wales, Mount Pleasant, Fairview, Spring City > and Manti. It's on the range west of the Sanpete Valley where these > cities are located. > Evacuations already underway in Indianola and all communites within the > fire zone. > > http://inciweb.org/incident/2942/ shows one run licking Highway 89 in > two places and south run trying for city of Fairview. > Highway 89 from Utah/Sanmpete County in north to Mount Pleasant is > closed. Access only from Highway 28 from Nephi to get to Manti, from north. > > best map to see where the highways are located. The fire is just west of > Indianola and Fairfiew, east of Fountain Green, north of Moroni. > > David S. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TTTP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > --