David you sites are also going to need raw material, not just a site to off site link. Off site links change daily and then become broken links. Ancestry is a part of Rootsweb and I feel that links to Family Search is a great idea too. It is the link to the the other project, that we do not want. We will get slammed for using their archives. Creat out own archives work that direction. I have taken my sleeping pill and not sure I am making sense. -- Tschüß, Gail "Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

I'm down to just two, or maybe three, more pages to create to get this book, "Law West Of Fort Smith", online. As I've worked my way through the book I think it should go in Indian Territory. The court did have jurisdiction over a portion of Western Arkansas but the book deals, virtually, completely with cases that had dealings within the territory. There's loads of good stuff if your interested in the "Bad Men" that were in your family tree. On 10/03/2011 03:35 AM, Colleen wrote: > Indian Territory > > On 9/29/2011 4:30 PM, Linda wrote: >> Arkansas >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Billie Walsh"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [TTTP] Judge Isaac Parker >> >> >>> Linda and Colleen: >>> >>> Lets say you *HAD* to post it on one or the other, which would you pick? >>> >>> The reason I say that is because I set all external links, links not >>> within that particular site, to open in a new window/tab, depending on >>> the visitors browser and/or settings. That way the visitor doesn't >>> navigate away from my site and forget to come back to explore more. I >>> also make extensive use of relative links for navigation within a site. >>> The Parker pages would be hosted on one site and cross linked on the >>> other. >>> >>> I would rather not post the complete work on both sites because I would >>> have to go back and reformat the pages to better fit in with the design >>> of each site. I would much rather just format it for one site. >>> >>> On 09/29/2011 09:19 AM, Colleen wrote: >>>> Billie, >>>> >>>> Why not in both???? Seems logical to me. >>>> >>>> C~ >>>> >>>> On 9/28/2011 9:42 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >>>>> I've had it in the back of my mind for some time to do a page for Judge >>>>> Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the judge for Indian Territory >>>>> and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most of his dealings were >>>>> with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws that ran to Indian >>>>> Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the John Wayne True Grit >>>>> movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's Hang 'Em High was >>>>> patterned after. >>>>> >>>>> My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put it in Arkansas or >>>>> Indian Territory >>>>> -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Indian Territory On 9/29/2011 4:30 PM, Linda wrote: > Arkansas > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billie Walsh"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [TTTP] Judge Isaac Parker > > >> Linda and Colleen: >> >> Lets say you *HAD* to post it on one or the other, which would you pick? >> >> The reason I say that is because I set all external links, links not >> within that particular site, to open in a new window/tab, depending on >> the visitors browser and/or settings. That way the visitor doesn't >> navigate away from my site and forget to come back to explore more. I >> also make extensive use of relative links for navigation within a site. >> The Parker pages would be hosted on one site and cross linked on the >> other. >> >> I would rather not post the complete work on both sites because I would >> have to go back and reformat the pages to better fit in with the design >> of each site. I would much rather just format it for one site. >> >> On 09/29/2011 09:19 AM, Colleen wrote: >>> Billie, >>> >>> Why not in both???? Seems logical to me. >>> >>> C~ >>> >>> On 9/28/2011 9:42 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >>>> I've had it in the back of my mind for some time to do a page for Judge >>>> Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the judge for Indian Territory >>>> and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most of his dealings were >>>> with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws that ran to Indian >>>> Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the John Wayne True Grit >>>> movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's Hang 'Em High was >>>> patterned after. >>>> >>>> My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put it in Arkansas or >>>> Indian Territory >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> -- >> >> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. >> Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found this when I was researching mining accidents: www3.gendisasters.com It breaks it down by state and by type. Not everything is included, but it can be a good start to some good information. Jeanne/jmh

Forgot to mention that George Maledon was the executioner for most of Judge Parkers 21 years as Judge. On 09/30/2011 04:01 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > This is a bit that I found in the book I'm working on right now. How to > properly hang someone. > > "The big knot is the secret of a good execution," Maledon once > said. "The right way and the humane way to hang a man is to break his > neck, not to strangle him to death. It takes a long time to strangle a > man to death, and it isn't pretty to look at, for he kicks a good deal. > But if you break his neck there are no contortions. He is unconscious > the instant the neck breaks, and he hangs motionless. It is a painless > death, and as instantaneous as any death can be. . . . > "You put the rope around the neck, draw it up just tight enough to > touch the skin all around without choking or interfering with the cir > culation of the blood, and put the big knot right under the left ear . . > . so it lies in the hollow back of the jawbone. Then, here's a little > secret the most of them don't know: to keep the knot from slipping out > of position below the ear, you bring the rope up . . . over the top of > the head and let it hang down in a curve on the other side. That holds > the knot steady under the ear, and when you spring the trap the man > drops through, and when the rope snaps taut that big knot throws his > head sidewise and cracks his neck in a jiffy. It always works that way > for me. That's why they call me the 'Prince of Hangmen.'" > (A. B. MacDonald, Hands Up!, pp. 155-156.) > > On 09/30/2011 10:19 AM, Jeanne Hicks wrote: >> This may be more than you were thinking, but what about also including bios and data about those who he sentenced. Also perhaps include some details about the gallows (or whatever other means) were used. > > -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

This is a bit that I found in the book I'm working on right now. How to properly hang someone. "The big knot is the secret of a good execution," Maledon once said. "The right way and the humane way to hang a man is to break his neck, not to strangle him to death. It takes a long time to strangle a man to death, and it isn't pretty to look at, for he kicks a good deal. But if you break his neck there are no contortions. He is unconscious the instant the neck breaks, and he hangs motionless. It is a painless death, and as instantaneous as any death can be. . . . "You put the rope around the neck, draw it up just tight enough to touch the skin all around without choking or interfering with the cir culation of the blood, and put the big knot right under the left ear . . . so it lies in the hollow back of the jawbone. Then, here's a little secret the most of them don't know: to keep the knot from slipping out of position below the ear, you bring the rope up . . . over the top of the head and let it hang down in a curve on the other side. That holds the knot steady under the ear, and when you spring the trap the man drops through, and when the rope snaps taut that big knot throws his head sidewise and cracks his neck in a jiffy. It always works that way for me. That's why they call me the 'Prince of Hangmen.'" (A. B. MacDonald, Hands Up!, pp. 155-156.) On 09/30/2011 10:19 AM, Jeanne Hicks wrote: > This may be more than you were thinking, but what about also including bios and data about those who he sentenced. Also perhaps include some details about the gallows (or whatever other means) were used. -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

This may be more than you were thinking, but what about also including bios and data about those who he sentenced. Also perhaps include some details about the gallows (or whatever other means) were used. On all of my states, I am trying to include details about executions, and when I can find the data, lynchings. Most people don't like to think about those things, but they are a real part of our history. I've been gathering some data about Frankie Silver(s). She was a young mountain girl in Burke County, NC. She married the son of a well-to-do family. They had a daughter. She was probably illiterate. But she put hemlock or witchbane in a drink for her husband (from all accounts, it seems he abused her) so that he wouldn't wake up while she murdered him. Then she dismembered him. She was convicted of murder and hung in the middle of summer. The family wanted to take her to the family burial ground, but with it being so hot, they had three graves dug along the way (just in case). For many years, people didn't know where she was buried. There was a marker put up at one, but that's not where she was really buried. Today, there is a marker on her real grave. It seems kind of macabre, but she had a daughter. His family took her daughter to Florida and kept her away from her mother's family. At some point, I believe that someone in that line will want to know the truth. I have some friends who were related to Frankie (she was the first woman in North Carolina to be executed, early 1800s). They have some very interesting tales to tell. There are times I really wish I could travel back in time.... Jeanne/jmh --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Billie Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Billie Walsh <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TTTP] Judge Isaac Parker > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 12:42 PM > Linda and Colleen: > > Lets say you *HAD* to post it on one or the other, which > would you pick? > > The reason I say that is because I set all external links, > links not > within that particular site, to open in a new window/tab, > depending on > the visitors browser and/or settings. That way the visitor > doesn't > navigate away from my site and forget to come back to > explore more. I > also make extensive use of relative links for navigation > within a site. > The Parker pages would be hosted on one site and cross > linked on the other. > > I would rather not post the complete work on both sites > because I would > have to go back and reformat the pages to better fit in > with the design > of each site. I would much rather just format it for one > site. > > On 09/29/2011 09:19 AM, Colleen wrote: > > Billie, > > > > Why not in both????  Seems logical to me. > > > > C~ > > > > On 9/28/2011 9:42 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> I've had it in the back of my mind for some time > to do a page for Judge > >> Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the > judge for Indian Territory > >> and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most > of his dealings were > >> with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws > that ran to Indian > >> Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the > John Wayne True Grit > >> movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's > Hang 'Em High was > >> patterned after. > >> > >> My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put > it in Arkansas or > >> Indian Territory > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have > for dinner. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb."     - > Benjamin Franklin - > > _ _...  ..._ _ > _._  ._  .....  ._..  ...  .._ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [TTTP] Judge Isaac Parker > Linda and Colleen: > > Lets say you *HAD* to post it on one or the other, which would you pick? > > The reason I say that is because I set all external links, links not > within that particular site, to open in a new window/tab, depending on > the visitors browser and/or settings. That way the visitor doesn't > navigate away from my site and forget to come back to explore more. I > also make extensive use of relative links for navigation within a site. > The Parker pages would be hosted on one site and cross linked on the > other. > > I would rather not post the complete work on both sites because I would > have to go back and reformat the pages to better fit in with the design > of each site. I would much rather just format it for one site. > > On 09/29/2011 09:19 AM, Colleen wrote: >> Billie, >> >> Why not in both???? Seems logical to me. >> >> C~ >> >> On 9/28/2011 9:42 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >>> I've had it in the back of my mind for some time to do a page for Judge >>> Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the judge for Indian Territory >>> and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most of his dealings were >>> with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws that ran to Indian >>> Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the John Wayne True Grit >>> movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's Hang 'Em High was >>> patterned after. >>> >>> My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put it in Arkansas or >>> Indian Territory >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda and Colleen: Lets say you *HAD* to post it on one or the other, which would you pick? The reason I say that is because I set all external links, links not within that particular site, to open in a new window/tab, depending on the visitors browser and/or settings. That way the visitor doesn't navigate away from my site and forget to come back to explore more. I also make extensive use of relative links for navigation within a site. The Parker pages would be hosted on one site and cross linked on the other. I would rather not post the complete work on both sites because I would have to go back and reformat the pages to better fit in with the design of each site. I would much rather just format it for one site. On 09/29/2011 09:19 AM, Colleen wrote: > Billie, > > Why not in both???? Seems logical to me. > > C~ > > On 9/28/2011 9:42 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> I've had it in the back of my mind for some time to do a page for Judge >> Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the judge for Indian Territory >> and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most of his dealings were >> with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws that ran to Indian >> Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the John Wayne True Grit >> movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's Hang 'Em High was >> patterned after. >> >> My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put it in Arkansas or >> Indian Territory >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Billie, Why not in both???? Seems logical to me. C~ On 9/28/2011 9:42 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > I've had it in the back of my mind for some time to do a page for Judge > Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the judge for Indian Territory > and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most of his dealings were > with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws that ran to Indian > Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the John Wayne True Grit > movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's Hang 'Em High was > patterned after. > > My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put it in Arkansas or > Indian Territory >

Both! Or at least links... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" <[email protected]> To: "Trails To The Past" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:42 PM Subject: [TTTP] Judge Isaac Parker > I've had it in the back of my mind for some time to do a page for Judge > Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the judge for Indian Territory > and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most of his dealings were > with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws that ran to Indian > Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the John Wayne True Grit > movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's Hang 'Em High was > patterned after. > > My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put it in Arkansas or > Indian Territory > > -- > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I've had it in the back of my mind for some time to do a page for Judge Isaac Parker, "The Hanging Judge". He was the judge for Indian Territory and western Arkansas in Fort Smith Arkansas. Most of his dealings were with issues in Indian Territory, or, the outlaws that ran to Indian Territory to hide out. He was the judge in the John Wayne True Grit movies and the one the judge in Clint Eastwood's Hang 'Em High was patterned after. My dilemma is where to put the page. Should I put it in Arkansas or Indian Territory -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Charles Bradley1 Blevins, born 1941 in Stilville, MD; died 25 Sep 2011 in West Grove, Chester Co., PA; buried 30 Sep 2011 in St. Patrick's Cemetery, Kennett Square, PA, son of 2. Bradley M. Blevins and 3. Elise Webb. He married abt 1961 Ann Marie Kelleher. Children of Charles Bradley Blevins and Ann Marie Kelleher were as follows: i Steven(Sr) Blevins, born abt 1964. He married Kathy Swift, daughter of Gladys LNU. ii Michael Blevins. iii Susan Blevins. Generation 2 2. Bradley M.2 Blevins, son of 4. Banner "Joe" Vay Blevins and 5. Minnie Ann Paisley. He married 3. Elise Webb. Notes for Bradley M. Blevins Occupation: self employed mushroom grower. Source Evelyn Waters, 05/04 Children of Bradley M. Blevins and Elise Webb were as follows: i David A1 Blevins, born 1943 in MD; died 12 Nov 2008 in Jennersville Regonial Hospital, Chester Co., PA; buried 17 Nov 2008. He married in 1987 Barbara T. Metz. ii Allen1 Blevins. 1 iii Charles Bradley1 Blevins, born 1941 in Stilville, MD; died 25 Sep 2011 in West Grove, Chester Co., PA; buried 30 Sep 2011 in St. Patrick's Cemetery, Kennett Square, PA. He married abt 1961 Ann Marie Kelleher. iv Helen1 Blevins. v Jackie1 Blevins. Generation 3 4. Banner "Joe" Vay3 Blevins, born 6 Sep 1895; died 12 Feb 1967; buried in Haw Orchard Cemetery, Rugby, VA., son of 6. Jeter Calton Blevins and 7. Rosa Sage. He married (1), divorced Cora E. Greer, born 18 Mar 1911; died 2 Feb 1987; buried in Haw Orchard Cemetery, Rugby, VA., daughter of Troy Greer and Charity Marie Farmer; (2) 5. Minnie Ann Paisley, born 24 Sep 1896; died 9 Feb 1982, daughter of 8. McGrady "Mack" Greeley Paisley and 9. Sarah Jane Pennington. Notes for Banner "Joe" Vay Blevins Served in the 20th Reg (VA) during WW II Children of Banner "Joe" Vay Blevins and Cora E. Greer were as follows: i Arthur Jackson2 Blevins. He married Dorthory Reeves. ii Lessie Ann2 Blevins. She married Arvel Lee(Sr.) Blevins. iii Laura Ellen2 Blevins. She married Lloyd Walls. Children of Banner "Joe" Vay Blevins and Minnie Ann Paisley were as follows: 2 i Bradley M.2 Blevins. He married Elise Webb. ii Leathella "Letha"2 Blevins. She married unknown Tipton

Back in June I sent for a Death record from Pa. Vital Statisics............. The first week my check was cashed.......... however, it takes 13 to 15 weeks to get the document......... My goodness, I retired from working for the Dept of Defense, so I know how government operates, but, 13 weeks seems to be a bit long, even for them. :-) I say that to say this. Nothing surprizes me anymore. it's like some of these people are brain dead or smoking loco weed. Jim in Florida www.albrogenealogy.com On 9/26/2011 8:01 AM, Jeanne Hicks wrote: > Unfortunately, this isn't anything new. Many states already have this limitation in some form or another. In Louisiana, for instance, the birth record has to be 125 years old before you can access it unless you are a parent, grandparent, child or grandchild of the individual (and you have to prove it) and it is 50 years for marriage and death records. In Mississippi, records after 1962 are limited (don't know why that day was chosen, but anyways....). In Texas, it's 25 years on deaths (don't know about births and marriages). In North Carolina, it's open -- if the record exists, you can get a copy of it (unless the record is sealed by court order). Now Virginia has a treasure trove of records! They have birth and death records from 1852 to 1898 (or some such) and then it became too expensive to maintain those records until 1912 (or some such) and they have them from that time on. Marriage records they never stopped maintaining once started, as > that was considered a "contract". By the way, you can obtain copies of the microfilm through your public library! I tried it and just about went batty -- every time I went to the library to access the microfilm, all of their readers were being used by others. They only had two and one was, well, let's say, it wasn't the greatest. > > Jeanne/jmh > > > --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Billie Walsh<[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Billie Walsh<[email protected]> >> Subject: [TTTP] Access to Virginia Vital Records Threatened >> To: "Trails To The Past"<[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 7:27 AM >> From Eastmans Genealogy Newsletter >> >> http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2011/09/access-to-virginia-vital-records-threatened-the-public-comment-deadline-is-october-6-2011.html >> >> The bureaucrats are at it again. A few state officials in >> Virginia wish >> to restrict access to vital records held by the Virginia >> Department of >> Health. The proposal is to close the birth records for 100 >> years, with >> marriage and death records closed for 50 years. After these >> time >> periods, the records are supposed to be turned over to the >> Library of >> Virginia (LVA), though the Virginia Department of Health >> has tried to >> delay this. >> >> The Records Preservation and Access Committee, a joint >> committee of the >> Federation of Genealogical Societies, the National >> Genealogical Society, >> and the International Association of Jewish Genealogical >> Societies, is >> strongly opposed to this action. Writing for that >> committee, Peter E. >> Broadbent, Jr., former President of the Virginia >> Genealogical Society, >> has published a Memorandum to the Genealogical Community >> that describes >> the problems and provides suggested courses of action. You >> can read a >> PDF file of the "Memorandum to the Genealogical Community" >> at >> http://goo.gl/NREby >> >> http://goo.gl/NREby >> >> -- >> >> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have >> for dinner. >> Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - >> Benjamin Franklin - >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

From Eastmans Genealogy Newsletter http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2011/09/access-to-virginia-vital-records-threatened-the-public-comment-deadline-is-october-6-2011.html The bureaucrats are at it again. A few state officials in Virginia wish to restrict access to vital records held by the Virginia Department of Health. The proposal is to close the birth records for 100 years, with marriage and death records closed for 50 years. After these time periods, the records are supposed to be turned over to the Library of Virginia (LVA), though the Virginia Department of Health has tried to delay this. The Records Preservation and Access Committee, a joint committee of the Federation of Genealogical Societies, the National Genealogical Society, and the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies, is strongly opposed to this action. Writing for that committee, Peter E. Broadbent, Jr., former President of the Virginia Genealogical Society, has published a Memorandum to the Genealogical Community that describes the problems and provides suggested courses of action. You can read a PDF file of the "Memorandum to the Genealogical Community" at http://goo.gl/NREby http://goo.gl/NREby -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Unfortunately, this isn't anything new. Many states already have this limitation in some form or another. In Louisiana, for instance, the birth record has to be 125 years old before you can access it unless you are a parent, grandparent, child or grandchild of the individual (and you have to prove it) and it is 50 years for marriage and death records. In Mississippi, records after 1962 are limited (don't know why that day was chosen, but anyways....). In Texas, it's 25 years on deaths (don't know about births and marriages). In North Carolina, it's open -- if the record exists, you can get a copy of it (unless the record is sealed by court order). Now Virginia has a treasure trove of records! They have birth and death records from 1852 to 1898 (or some such) and then it became too expensive to maintain those records until 1912 (or some such) and they have them from that time on. Marriage records they never stopped maintaining once started, as that was considered a "contract". By the way, you can obtain copies of the microfilm through your public library! I tried it and just about went batty -- every time I went to the library to access the microfilm, all of their readers were being used by others. They only had two and one was, well, let's say, it wasn't the greatest. Jeanne/jmh --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Billie Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Billie Walsh <[email protected]> > Subject: [TTTP] Access to Virginia Vital Records Threatened > To: "Trails To The Past" <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 7:27 AM > From Eastmans Genealogy Newsletter > > http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2011/09/access-to-virginia-vital-records-threatened-the-public-comment-deadline-is-october-6-2011.html > > The bureaucrats are at it again. A few state officials in > Virginia wish > to restrict access to vital records held by the Virginia > Department of > Health. The proposal is to close the birth records for 100 > years, with > marriage and death records closed for 50 years. After these > time > periods, the records are supposed to be turned over to the > Library of > Virginia (LVA), though the Virginia Department of Health > has tried to > delay this. > > The Records Preservation and Access Committee, a joint > committee of the > Federation of Genealogical Societies, the National > Genealogical Society, > and the International Association of Jewish Genealogical > Societies, is > strongly opposed to this action. Writing for that > committee, Peter E. > Broadbent, Jr., former President of the Virginia > Genealogical Society, > has published a Memorandum to the Genealogical Community > that describes > the problems and provides suggested courses of action. You > can read a > PDF file of the "Memorandum to the Genealogical Community" > at > http://goo.gl/NREby > > http://goo.gl/NREby > > -- > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have > for dinner. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb."     - > Benjamin Franklin - > > _ _...  ..._ _ > _._  ._  .....  ._..  ...  .._ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Globe/Miami was in the Texas League. I' don't recall if we ever played the Giants Farm Team. Around Arizona they were crazy about baseball. Seems like every town had a team of some rank. don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:04:18 PM Subject: Re: [TTTP] WOW!!! Giants home was in Casa Grande, but that was their spring training camp. Could have been their farm team too but I think it was too hot to play there all summer. g On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:04 AM, donkelly <[email protected]> wrote: > Long ago I played baseball for Globe/Miami Indians farm team. The locam > mine gave me a job and paid me to play ball. But I was never a fan of the > Indians-being from San Francisco I was a Giant fan. I think their farm team > was in Arizona, possibly Mesa. > > donkelly > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sammie jean gregory Fairchild" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:29:55 AM > Subject: Re: [TTTP] WOW!!! > > My two nieces in Phenoix are backs fans also. When Our Cincinnati reds > play them we wager Fudge Candy and who makes it and mails to the other. > Jeannie > > > From: Gail Kilgore <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:23 AM > Subject: [TTTP] WOW!!! > > Sorry Folks, but I is a D-Back fan from day one...... > > The D-Backs just won the Western Division... they beat the GIANTS.......... > > Their championship shirts got the State of AZ on them...... > > Thank God for Paul Goldschmidt.... > > g > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Tschüß, Gail "Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Giants home was in Casa Grande, but that was their spring training camp. Could have been their farm team too but I think it was too hot to play there all summer. g On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:04 AM, donkelly <[email protected]> wrote: > Long ago I played baseball for Globe/Miami Indians farm team. The locam > mine gave me a job and paid me to play ball. But I was never a fan of the > Indians-being from San Francisco I was a Giant fan. I think their farm team > was in Arizona, possibly Mesa. > > donkelly > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sammie jean gregory Fairchild" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:29:55 AM > Subject: Re: [TTTP] WOW!!! > > My two nieces in Phenoix are backs fans also. When Our Cincinnati reds > play them we wager Fudge Candy and who makes it and mails to the other. > Jeannie > > > From: Gail Kilgore <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:23 AM > Subject: [TTTP] WOW!!! > > Sorry Folks, but I is a D-Back fan from day one...... > > The D-Backs just won the Western Division... they beat the GIANTS.......... > > Their championship shirts got the State of AZ on them...... > > Thank God for Paul Goldschmidt.... > > g > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Tschüß, Gail "Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

Long ago I played baseball for Globe/Miami Indians farm team. The locam mine gave me a job and paid me to play ball. But I was never a fan of the Indians-being from San Francisco I was a Giant fan. I think their farm team was in Arizona, possibly Mesa. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sammie jean gregory Fairchild" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:29:55 AM Subject: Re: [TTTP] WOW!!! My two nieces in Phenoix are backs fans also.  When Our Cincinnati reds play them we wager Fudge Candy and who makes it and mails to the other.  Jeannie From: Gail Kilgore <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:23 AM Subject: [TTTP] WOW!!! Sorry Folks, but I is a D-Back fan from day one...... The D-Backs just won the Western Division... they beat the GIANTS.......... Their championship shirts got the State of AZ on them...... Thank God for Paul Goldschmidt.... g ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We had the colonels here and they moved it was a ml team.  Then we got the red birds farm team for st louis.  Now we have the Bats and a big stadium on the riverfront a few blocks from the Big Yum Center for the U Of L Cardinals and they are for the Cin. Reds farm team.  Love baseball.  Grew up listening to the team on my mother mint green crosby radio.  New the line ups for st louis, brooklyn dogers, new york yankees, white soxs and cubs.  Mother loved Baseball, County Music, Big Band Music and New Orleans Music and Fishing.  We would turn on the Radio and get out the puzzel box and work on puzzles while listening.  I miss those days.  Now everyone watches a tube and litlle talking.  I miss the communications of those days.   I just wonder what kids and parents of today would do if no electric and had to find a way to speak with each other.  Maybe that is why God is sending storms and putting out electric.  Maybe he is trying to tell us something.    I went to du Pont Manual for 5 years,.  3 junior high and 2 senior high.  Mr Reece our princple was Pee Wee Reece Cousin.  We never missed a Dodger Game he had them all on the intercom back then.  When they won the world series we all celebrated.  Have a great day and Great family weekend. God Bless God Speed Prayers for our Soliders, Police, Fire, Ambulance people GOD BLESS AMERICA From: donkelly <[email protected]> To: Sammie jean gregory Fairchild <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [TTTP] WOW!!! Long ago I played baseball for Globe/Miami Indians farm team. The locam mine gave me a job and paid me to play ball. But I was never a fan of the Indians-being from San Francisco I was a Giant fan. I think their farm team was in Arizona, possibly Mesa. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sammie jean gregory Fairchild" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:29:55 AM Subject: Re: [TTTP] WOW!!! My two nieces in Phenoix are backs fans also.  When Our Cincinnati reds play them we wager Fudge Candy and who makes it and mails to the other.  Jeannie From: Gail Kilgore <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:23 AM Subject: [TTTP] WOW!!! Sorry Folks, but I is a D-Back fan from day one...... The D-Backs just won the Western Division... they beat the GIANTS.......... Their championship shirts got the State of AZ on them...... Thank God for Paul Goldschmidt.... g ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message