Can we help Neil? We could offer him TRIAN or even TRAIN, on occasion. I haven't run into TRIAND, yet; anyone else? The TRIANCE line broke away in Norfolk shortly after the arrival in England of Peter and the boys. It could be French--de TRION married MONTALEMBERT. A note there says this was originally a Scottish house, whose lineage goes back to ancient times. This branch of TRYON/TRION moved to France where it spread into the provinces of perigord, d'Angoumois and Poitou near the end of the 13th C. I am awaiting further word on the history of the TRYON name from Dick Tryon who has correspondence with a French historian/genealogist?? In any case, Neil, come in and be comfortable with all of us: TRIOEN, TRYOEN (Holland, Flanders), de TRYON/TRION (France), TRYON, TRION, TRYANCE, TRIANCE, TRYANT, TRIANT, TREANCE, TREYANT(England 17th-18th Cs), TRIAN, TRYAN, TRIAL(L), TRYAL(L), all the TYRs, and a few other wierdos Vicki has turned up (spelling-wise, that is, e.g. FRYON and RYON)<g>. Did I miss any? Just one question, Neil, "Do you have a fear of heights?" If not, you might want to check out TRAND; its about 34°40'N by 72°E, just a few hilltops N of Rawalpindi. Looks like a nice spot for a quiet vacation! I've never been there, but, a friend from Srinagar,across the border in Kashmir, says that the weather there, in the Vale is beautiful, much like Nova Scotia<g>. Don -- Donald Edric TRYON....Son of Clarence L of Edric M of Clarence E 89 Hillside Rd.......Son of Andrew Jackson of Simeon II of Simeon Albert Bridge, NS...Son of James of Ziba of William of Wethersfield CANADA B0A 1P0...Son of William of Bibury, Gloucestershire, Eng 902-567-2633.....Descendant of William TRIOEN of Wulverghem, Flanders