Peter Hartman (aka Johannes Peter Hartman) b circa July 1817 (determined by subtracting age from date of death) m. Maria Denk (aka Dench, Dank, Denck) of Spiessen 7 May 1845 (some question about the year but close if not exact) in parish of Zusch died: Pittsburgh PA at age 57 on 8 Feb 1876 probably from St Michael's Church Priest: Ignatius. Peter's father: Michael Hartman born in Neunkirchen in Biesing in Germany (Prussia) married on 27 October 1811 (Evangelisch, Birkenfeld, Oldenburg, Germnay) in Boerfink (aka Boerfing, Biesing) in parish of Zusch married to: Maria Suzanne Schwarz It is deduced that Michael would have been between 20 and 30 years old at the time of marriage which would put his birthdate between 1780 and 1790. Michael Hartman's father: Henrius Hartman found on a record for Michael... that indicated Henrius was from Neunkirken area possibly Hertzweiler. married to: Anna Margaretha Harth If taken in context of each father being 20 to 30 years younger than their son, Henrius would have been born circa 1750-1770 Can anyone give any suggestions on where to go from here? I have researched records at the LDS til I am blurry-eyed. Can't figure out where to look for Hertzweiler records... that region doesn't seem to be listed with the records of Boerfink, a village in the mts west of Neunkirken... (Germany Preussen Rhineland Trier or Germany Preussen Rhineland Zusch or Germany Preussen Rhineland Neunkirchen)). Hertzweiler appears to be north of Boerfink but it doesn't seem to be listed with Boerfink in those reels. My thanks in advance for any help anyone can give, filling in the cracks or giving new leads. Hilary Coulson